I am charging my batteries like you suggests in other videos and it works like a charm. Was wondering now with BMS systems what is the best way? A video on the topic would be nice. I miss your videos, they thought me so much
Thank you, I’m glad they’ve been helpful! Unfortunately I don’t know when (or if) I’ll be making new EUC videos. Regarding the modern BMSs, I’m not very well familiarized with the differences nowadays. Back in the day all EUC BMSs worked more or less the same way, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.
I’m a Patton owner. Really love my wheel, but seeing a 134V InMotion with this suspension, looks pretty attractive. I wonder if it will feel as torquey as the Patton. Haven’t tried the commander mini, but I think that wheel is good also. Probably won’t buy either though, since I am happy with the Patton and love the agility and power that I feel with it.
Im curious if swapping to larger rims and tires would result in the wheel hitting the bottom of the motherboard area when bottoming out. That has to be accounted for during design.
I’ve been wondering about that rumor as well. But it keeps coming up. If they have really implemented it, there are probably several connection points where the motor axle connects to the rest of the wheel.
@@mrelwood_EUC Well its less that and more easy to take the suspension topping out position and then leaving enough room for a full size wheel. Or allow for lowering the suspension travel based on wheel size. Putting the axle all the way at the bottom is already optimal for most things. Since it is easier to change pedal height and other stuff.
@@mrelwood_EUCwould also need to consider larger diameter touching front and back fender since larger diameter even if extended connection points unless clearance is already taken into consideration.
I think the level of waterproofing is only revealed when someone makes a good teardown. Inmotions have generally been rainproof, so I have no worries there.
Pretty steep, sure, but a bumpy incline might be iffy… Can’t imagine it being a very balanced ride though. Can’t wait to see if this motor switching rumor is true!
@@Reawer I’m not sure if V12 does have a fancy mode. I don’t know why the V11 has either. Could be that company policy has changed and they no longer want to offer a decreased safety margin.
@@Reawer I thought 70km/h was the regular top speed for the V12 HS. Unlocking the top speed after a few miles is not what we call a “Fancy mode“, since the top speed unlocks automatically. “Fancy mode” refers to the higher top speed of the V11 that was hidden at first. It was higher than the announced top speed (55 vs 50km/h). Inmotion called it the “Fancy mode”.
Seems cool and heavy :D Inmotion do good job with EUC imo. To me it seems that this would go against KingSong S22 (Pro?) . Or any other model I am not aware of? Would be interesting comparison.
Thanks Finn! Most rumors say that V14 Adventure is 134.4V. I don’t think the V11 voltage will be increased, since there’s no room for more batteries, and it seemed that they’re not changing the chassis.
IIRC, V14 was mentioned by Bob in an interview some time ago when he was still the CEO, but it does seem that Inmotion are veering out of the numbering scheme and they haven’t directly linked “Adventure” with “V14”.
@@jimmykiang4420 The Adventure is speed limited, so there aren’t differing results. The top speed is 70km/h, where it will stop you with a tilt-back. We’ve seen that already on Telegram videos.
I guess the tyre size will be 18 inch instead of 16 inch? really odd that they put 18 inch tyre size into 16 inch cat which is confusing, just as the Extreme and Patton, it's 18 inch. T4 is real 16 inch
No, T4, Patton and Extreme all have the same rim size. Check what it says on their tires. It’s best not to think about “tire sizes”, since the manufacturers are all over the place with them. They measure and announce them differently, and what’s 18” to LeaperKim is 16” to Inmotion. Look at the rim sizes instead, since the differences in actual rubber height are pretty small. Here’s more info on the tire sizing saga: ua-cam.com/video/SfeTJDY0bxQ/v-deo.html
And to clarify, “outer tire diameter” is different from tire sizing classifications, which is what some EUC manufacturers try to confuse us with. A 16x3” tire is still a 16” size group tire despite the outer diameter being about 17.5”. Add knobs and the diameter is indeed about 18”. That doesn’t make it a 18” wheel though. And 20” tires don’t even exist, the 20” size group is completely invented by LeaperKim (Veteran). So called 18”, 19” and 20” tires all fit on a 14” rim, they all mean the same thing. From V11 to EX30 and ShermS, they’re all the same size.
@@maxwayne3280 The rim size is the same, so it would fit on the rim. But the space all wheels have around the tire is very tight, so just a differently shaped thread profile might make it not fit. Or a 1/4” larger outer diameter. The only way to know is for someone to be the first to try. But the V12 probably doesn’t have room for the Patton’s tire’s knobs. The Shinko SR-244 2.75-14 is a good example. The V11 fits many 2.75-14 tires just fine, but the 244 is so massive that it isn’t even close to fitting the V11, at any spot. Someone always has to be the first to try.
"Why 134V? Isn't it kinda dangerous?" Anything past 48V - maybe even less - is already "dangerous", and it all comes down to weight. In order to deliver such power, one needs either more current (amperage) or more voltage, if not both. More amps = larger cables. End of story.
Better go up to 80kph otherwise no deal. If the rumors are true for the motor swap I'm getting one though. I really hope there's no vestige of firmware fuckery from the V12. This wheel is literally the most dangerous and unreliable wheel on the market right now.
@mrelwood EUC I would love if you can make a topic and deep diving with regards to the different samsung cells: 50S vs 50GB and its pro and cons per different rider types
Thank you for the support! I haven’t followed the related news and cell performances, so I think it’s better to rely on more experienced people on the matter.
Unless I’m mistaken the V14 has a similar balancing function than the V13 that activates already past 3.7V per cell if needed. So you might get some benefit after 20000km if you were to stop charging at around 3.9 - 4.0V per cell (~80%). As long as the shorter range is enough for you.
@Karl-ErikRosberg, On wheels that have an advanced balancing system, yes. But remember that you’ll only start to get notable aid in battery capacity at about 20000km. Very few riders ever ride that far with any of their wheels. So don’t stress about it too much.
Wow Inmotion is jacking up their voltage to 134.4v? I definitely wasnt expecting that!
We need you back and going through V14 settings like you did with the V11!
Aww, thanks Harris for the kind words! Tell you what, send me a V14 and I promise I’ll make several videos about it! 😁
I am charging my batteries like you suggests in other videos and it works like a charm. Was wondering now with BMS systems what is the best way? A video on the topic would be nice.
I miss your videos, they thought me so much
Thank you, I’m glad they’ve been helpful! Unfortunately I don’t know when (or if) I’ll be making new EUC videos.
Regarding the modern BMSs, I’m not very well familiarized with the differences nowadays. Back in the day all EUC BMSs worked more or less the same way, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.
What about the modular battery rumors? It would be pretty cool if we could choose smaller battery for smaller weight 🤞
It would be cool, but I haven’t heard about that rumor in a while. I wonder if they have left the feature for future models.
I’m a Patton owner. Really love my wheel, but seeing a 134V InMotion with this suspension, looks pretty attractive. I wonder if it will feel as torquey as the Patton. Haven’t tried the commander mini, but I think that wheel is good also. Probably won’t buy either though, since I am happy with the Patton and love the agility and power that I feel with it.
I wish I had rogue type money
Im curious if swapping to larger rims and tires would result in the wheel hitting the bottom of the motherboard area when bottoming out.
That has to be accounted for during design.
I’ve been wondering about that rumor as well. But it keeps coming up. If they have really implemented it, there are probably several connection points where the motor axle connects to the rest of the wheel.
@@mrelwood_EUC Well its less that and more easy to take the suspension topping out position and then leaving enough room for a full size wheel. Or allow for lowering the suspension travel based on wheel size.
Putting the axle all the way at the bottom is already optimal for most things. Since it is easier to change pedal height and other stuff.
@@Dogo.R only a few days to find out if the motor size swap is really a thing. 😊
@@mrelwood_EUCwould also need to consider larger diameter touching front and back fender since larger diameter even if extended connection points unless clearance is already taken into consideration.
Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏
you forgot about waterproof..
but you been spot on..nice
I think the level of waterproofing is only revealed when someone makes a good teardown. Inmotions have generally been rainproof, so I have no worries there.
@@mrelwood_EUC they have an Ip.rating...which is goood
Really like the idea of changing out to a 14'' tire. Can you imagine the hills you could climb??
Pretty steep, sure, but a bumpy incline might be iffy… Can’t imagine it being a very balanced ride though. Can’t wait to see if this motor switching rumor is true!
Release date? 1500GBP in UK right? That is good isnt it? 🤔
November has been mentioned, I assume for them to be available at shops. But 1500GBP, no way. How’d you figure that? It’s about double.
I'm pretty hyped if it gets a 70+ mode
It might take a while for them to allow it though. Like it did with the V11. And V13 still doesn’t have a public fancy mode.
@@mrelwood_EUC why does only the V12 have puplic?
@@Reawer I’m not sure if V12 does have a fancy mode. I don’t know why the V11 has either. Could be that company policy has changed and they no longer want to offer a decreased safety margin.
@@mrelwood_EUC I've got an v12 HS it's got an fancy mode that unlocks 70 after a few miles
@@Reawer I thought 70km/h was the regular top speed for the V12 HS. Unlocking the top speed after a few miles is not what we call a “Fancy mode“, since the top speed unlocks automatically. “Fancy mode” refers to the higher top speed of the V11 that was hidden at first. It was higher than the announced top speed (55 vs 50km/h). Inmotion called it the “Fancy mode”.
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Seems cool and heavy :D
Inmotion do good job with EUC imo. To me it seems that this would go against KingSong S22 (Pro?) . Or any other model I am not aware of?
Would be interesting comparison.
Due to the tire size I think Patton, Extreme and Command Mini are not direct comparisons. And I’m sure we’ll start seeing them pretty soon as well.
Good info as always from you. Thx mate. Ill never buy batch1 again. This v14 is 100V - Im not sure what the V11Y is....
Thanks Finn! Most rumors say that V14 Adventure is 134.4V. I don’t think the V11 voltage will be increased, since there’s no room for more batteries, and it seemed that they’re not changing the chassis.
Wow 134V on a smaller tire will give a lot of acceleration. ANd we need to buy more chargers... @@mrelwood_EUC
Bro, you been missing your calling. Need to be a voice actor.
Can I have a quarter from every time I’ve heard that? 🤣🤣🤣
But seriously, thank you for the kind comment!
Have Inmotion ever called it the V14 or is it just what everyone calls it because it's the next wheel after V13?
IIRC, V14 was mentioned by Bob in an interview some time ago when he was still the CEO, but it does seem that Inmotion are veering out of the numbering scheme and they haven’t directly linked “Adventure” with “V14”.
@@mrelwood_EUC ye, I don't think they will number the wheels anymore.
@@JonahHax you could be right. The numbering still made some sense up to the V11, but since then the chronological ordering is only misleading.
now the question is... can it go faster than the begode extreme? XD
I’m sure the Extreme goes faster if you’re ok falling on your face...
@@mrelwood_EUC cannot wait to see the results from the euc daredevils... my respects for them 🙇♂💪
@@jimmykiang4420 The Adventure is speed limited, so there aren’t differing results. The top speed is 70km/h, where it will stop you with a tilt-back. We’ve seen that already on Telegram videos.
@@mrelwood_EUCWill there be a speed unlock available?
@@Stan-kj8fq I’m certain that there won’t be an actual unlock. I guess a “fancy mode” to up to 80km/h might be possible in time.
I guess the tyre size will be 18 inch instead of 16 inch? really odd that they put 18 inch tyre size into 16 inch cat which is confusing, just as the Extreme and Patton, it's 18 inch. T4 is real 16 inch
No, T4, Patton and Extreme all have the same rim size. Check what it says on their tires.
It’s best not to think about “tire sizes”, since the manufacturers are all over the place with them. They measure and announce them differently, and what’s 18” to LeaperKim is 16” to Inmotion. Look at the rim sizes instead, since the differences in actual rubber height are pretty small.
Here’s more info on the tire sizing saga:
ua-cam.com/video/SfeTJDY0bxQ/v-deo.html
And to clarify, “outer tire diameter” is different from tire sizing classifications, which is what some EUC manufacturers try to confuse us with. A 16x3” tire is still a 16” size group tire despite the outer diameter being about 17.5”. Add knobs and the diameter is indeed about 18”. That doesn’t make it a 18” wheel though.
And 20” tires don’t even exist, the 20” size group is completely invented by LeaperKim (Veteran). So called 18”, 19” and 20” tires all fit on a 14” rim, they all mean the same thing. From V11 to EX30 and ShermS, they’re all the same size.
Would a patton tire fit a v12😂? Askin for a freind
@@maxwayne3280 The rim size is the same, so it would fit on the rim. But the space all wheels have around the tire is very tight, so just a differently shaped thread profile might make it not fit. Or a 1/4” larger outer diameter. The only way to know is for someone to be the first to try. But the V12 probably doesn’t have room for the Patton’s tire’s knobs.
The Shinko SR-244 2.75-14 is a good example. The V11 fits many 2.75-14 tires just fine, but the 244 is so massive that it isn’t even close to fitting the V11, at any spot. Someone always has to be the first to try.
@@mrelwood_EUCI wonder why don’t they have more clearance to fit different tire treads?
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"Why 134V? Isn't it kinda dangerous?"
Anything past 48V - maybe even less - is already "dangerous", and it all comes down to weight. In order to deliver such power, one needs either more current (amperage) or more voltage, if not both. More amps = larger cables. End of story.
You can definitely do some bad stuff already on a 12V car battery…
Better go up to 80kph otherwise no deal. If the rumors are true for the motor swap I'm getting one though. I really hope there's no vestige of firmware fuckery from the V12. This wheel is literally the most dangerous and unreliable wheel on the market right now.
with Inmotions V12 problems at the start, a year of making improvements expected
Then again, with the V13’s pretty successful launch, we could have another with the Adventure.
Sounds like the battery size will suck
Sounds like most wheels’ battery sizes suck to you…
marketing .(
@mrelwood EUC I would love if you can make a topic and deep diving with regards to the different samsung cells: 50S vs 50GB and its pro and cons per different rider types
Thank you for the support! I haven’t followed the related news and cell performances, so I think it’s better to rely on more experienced people on the matter.
@@mrelwood_EUC hi, what would be the best way to charge the inmotion v14 50s batteries? always up to 100%?
Unless I’m mistaken the V14 has a similar balancing function than the V13 that activates already past 3.7V per cell if needed. So you might get some benefit after 20000km if you were to stop charging at around 3.9 - 4.0V per cell (~80%). As long as the shorter range is enough for you.
@@mrelwood_EUC it is better to charge up to 90% than to charge completely (100%)?
@Karl-ErikRosberg, On wheels that have an advanced balancing system, yes. But remember that you’ll only start to get notable aid in battery capacity at about 20000km. Very few riders ever ride that far with any of their wheels. So don’t stress about it too much.