13. Maura Murray Follow Up 1
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- We got your comments, enjoyed your thoughts, and definitely heard your complaints. In this episode, we correct some mistakes, expand on some theories, and talk about everyone's favorite police officer, Bruce McKay.
I listened to many podcasts on this case. But I enjoyed yours the best. The follow up was a great idea to clear up any questions,thoughts etc. well done as usual. “The prosecutors” are now my new fav podcast. Thanks for your hard work being your so busy with your full time jobs. Just want to say thank you Brett and Alice!!
This whole situation is like a gigantic Rorschach test everyone sees exactly what they want to see.
I love your podcast! You are never going to make everyone happy. I love what yours and Alice’s experience adds to the cases!
So glad I found this podcast through the dyatlov pass episodes. You guys do a fantastic job.
I can’t believe you actually explained the Fort Knox remark... there are some individuals that should not be wasting air.
There is something so weird about this case that haunts me. IMO - several of the people, involved in Maura's life, are not telling all they know.
I agree,and I find it hard to believe that she did not leave a trail as to where she was going,or who she had been talking to online..I was shocked when I read that she hopped into the tow truck like it was no big deal,and yes I have no doubts at all about her accepting a ride at the crash site..
Absolutely. There is something very Irish about the attitudes they have towards drinking & keeping secrets.
Thanks for the podcast. You've done a nice job on this series. I look forward to hearing more about this case.
I love the prosecutors theme song 🎶
Yes, Amherst College is an elite private college. I went to Umass and I made many friends at Amherst College. One of greatest achievements in college was beating 3 Amherst College students at scrabble one night! LOL
Funny story about Amherst, my cousin's first big job in NYC was with AmEx. Her boss was an Amherst grad. One day she takes a call for him from an Al Grimaldi. She gives him the message & he asks does that name sound familiar? No she says, turns out it was Prince Albert of Monaco. They had gone to Amherst together!
Did she go to Amherst or umass amherst though not sure
@@mattnorum4558 she went to Umass Amherst not Amherst College
Despite my previous comment. I do think she was involved in the Patrit accident that might. As you said it sure does explain a lot of the following events.
Speaking from experience, I had a very similar issue with a sibling & my reaction was no where near Maura's. I've never been catatonic in my life. Something traumatic happened to cause that level of shock. Kathleen has always maintained that there was nothing out of the ordinary about that phone call. Her husband stopping at a liquor store after she gets out of rehab sounds like par for the course as far as that relationship goes.
It is a major coincidence that Maura has a complete break down shortly after Petrit is hit by a car less than a mile from her job isn't it? She calls a body shop the next day, and her old man shows up with 4 grand the day after a major snow storm. Why the need to get rid of the car all of sudden?? None of her friends, including Kate who had dinner with them, said they mentioned anything about car shopping. Isn't there store footage from the liquor store that has not been released? Could that show the Saturn was already damaged before she left UMASS?
The reinstatement fee makes no sense for all the reasons you stated. What it does do is mis-direct away from the real reason why Maura was up there. I think the family knows what compelled her to leave. I don't think they know exactly where she was going or what happened to her, but I think they know the truth behind the break down, whether she hit Vasi or not. They probably have no problem floating this speeding ticket theory for that reason.
Btw, nicely done on the idea that Maura moved her car for a snow ban. I was trying to wrapped my head around why she would be out driving that late. I would love to hear your thoughts on if Maura did hit Petrit, why Fred would lend his car to her the next day to buy alcohol and go drink in a dorm.
Had never heard that she called a body shop the next day. Do you have a source you can point me to on that?
@@ProsecutorsPodcast This is from Reddit, but the OP pulled it from her phone records. If you can get access to them you could confirm this. I was wrong about the next day it was on the 7th, 2 days after the Vasi hit. It is interesting to note, that this call is before she smashed her father's Corolla, so the call would not have been related to that.
2/7/2004. A call is made from Maura Murray's phone to Reliance Auto at 43 Belchertown Road, Amherst MA. Reliance Auto, which has its own autobody shop, specializes in selling used cars that have salvage titles. These vehicles have been previously totaled out by an insurance adjuster due to a crash.
Prosecutors Podcast hi guys. How can I go about getting you to do a missing person’s case in my area? Thank you for any help.
I think people with multiple personalities do some sort of catatonic thing..where they'll zone out and become sort of unresponsive when they are switching from one personality to another and often times what causes them to switch is when they are faced with some kind of news that is upsetting--because the multiple personalities is a coping mechanism in itself--so whatever trauma they are dealing with can be too much to handle and the situation is "handed over" to a different personality that is better equipped to deal with the particular problem. Throughout this whole story, I have wondered if Maura may have had some type of dual personality disorder.
A previous video in this series said she had taken three birth control pills. That implies she had recently had her period and had started the birth control drug three days ago. I wonder if she had neurological issues linked to her menstrual cycle? I had a friend who had some odd, episodic seizures that happened during hormonal shifts. This sort of thing could explain the supposedly accidental 'shop lifting and some other things. My friend was frightened about what was happening in her body. If Maura had similar feelings, perhaps she needed to get away to sort through her feelings.
What if she took the 3 at the same time trying to cause an early miscarriage? Like the Plan B pill.
So this girl had 3 car accidents in 4 days?
Right? Is alcohol involved
I was in an accident. Was not cited and even received payment from my insurance company all while my lic was suspended. It had been suspended for a long time. All systems and officers are different.
I have a sister who is an alcoholic and if she had called me and told me that, I’d be angry and venting. Not cationic. Cationic would be shock of just maybe hitting someone….. Anger would be my reaction. Did the accident happen after the call? Maybe she was driving angry and distracted?
If I hit someone I’d stop. But if I drove off I’d be so scared & quiet that might look cationic…. She just ran away from a potential life ruining accident b/c she ran off instead of stopped. The RN in her really wasn’t instilled into then and she just got off probation that may have had a line in that too. But I wonder if her Google searches show she was looking at accidents of that certain accident?
prosecutors podcast is awesome. its the best maura murray podcast. sorry tim and lance.
Where can we find a picture of Alice?
I think she was a good actress. I know I was when I was in college. I think the "my sister" thing was an excuse to leave early.
There is a lot of deception about her. The whole way she left WP.
Been listening closely, great podcasts. really enjoy them. As of her being so upset the night she left work, (I think the hit and run theory was pretty cool and a different look but not buying it) I think the obvious reason she was upset was she was cheating on her boyfriend and felt guilty about it. She Had feelings for this person which is where the guilt came. Her and Bill had been fighting and we're on the outs (she also was told by her sister that bill was cheating on her and to move on) When she got to work which was a desk job, she had time to sit and process her life at the time, the accumulation of everything and it was the reason she broke down. That's just my opinion.
Was Bruce MaCay a lookie loo? Maybe heard call and went to see? Which direction would he was coming from? Could he of came soon her walking?
A catatonic state seems so out there to me..I am not saying that it was not possible but to me I am on the fence as far as that scenario goes..
I know this sounds far-fetched, but sometimes I wonder if Maura may have been suffering from a type of dissociative disorder or dual personality. It would explain her odd behavior and catatonic state.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but sometimes I wonder if Maura may have been suffering from a type of dissociative disorder or dual personality. It would explain her odd behavior and catatonic state.
Actually I heard that Maura usually parked close to work, but after Patrit Vasi was hit, she started parking far away where no one could see the car front
Was it paint or was it plastic found on the hit and run victim?
Injuries on his body would give evidence of how he was hit and what damage would be a expected on the car.
Wait if she got in an accident in her dad’s car few days before, and didn’t have a valid DL? She’d of been charged at the min and arrested if she was drinking. Here in this state, if you’re pulled over w/out a valid DL, you can’t drive the car away. You usually are taken to precinct to be processed & released & car impounded unless someone picks it up before police are done.
thanks..
When I was in my 20’s and stressed I always went away. I always went someplace I knew I could be alone and stew. I didn’t go drink myself to sleep each night but she’s not been sleeping, maybe intoxicated, it’s cold out, and I can see her letting someone picking her up but I can also see her not thinking clearly, and the adrenaline rush is coming down, lack of sleep, maybe she thought hiding in woods was good idea. But in 7° at night around 7:30pm that means she knew she’d be in there for 12 plus hours? That I don’t believe.
I can’t believe how aggressive the people are that follow this case in particular. Bizarre.
Man, you are spot on Brett!! There is virtually no chance her sister’s actions would have put her into that kind of psychological state. First of all, Maura drank regularly herself. Secondly, Maura knew of her sister’s struggles for a while. You can get very angry or saddened when you find out your family member has relapsed or refused treatment.
But you don’t go into a catatonic state. That results from trauma. Maura clearly had just experienced trauma.
And clearly, Fred is referencing something very serious Maura did when he makes that appeal. And Fred SHOULD have told the truth of what Maura admitted to.
Personally, I think Butch told Maura where she could get cell service. Maura was clearly impulsive. She was also very stressed and, at least partially under the influence. Factor in the “fight or flight” response and Maura’s fear of a DUI and the ruining of her Nursing Career. I think Butch told her how to get to Beaver Pond and/or North Woodstock. BUT, he would have told her to get there by Bradley Hill Road. and then pick up 112. You’ve got the Rick Forcier sighting 5 or so miles away. I think Maura wanted to avoid being seen while going towards North Woodstock. I believe she collapsed and died off the side of Rt 112 within several miles of that destination. Her remains could be near Beaver Pond, which is about 9-10 miles from crash site. Maura was an elite athlete/runner and got close. But the temperature and wind, combined with the alcohol she consumed, caused her death. She could have also suffered an injury from running on very uneven roadway. She also could have been dealing with a concussion…all things that could lead to death. I don’t believe those areas 7-10 miles away have been exhaustively searched.
Tar? Or quicksand?
My two theories are 1 a secret friend boyfriend was following behind n picked her up someone that she never told anyone that would be with her or 2 a cop has done something 🤷
I just don’t see a roving SK just happening on her. And if it’s someone who killed her by accident, do u think they’re calm enough to hide her body and get rid of all her belongings? Was her phone off? Or did it ever ping again? So something happened between that area of wreck to were a cellphone would wake up and ping on a tower if her phone is roaming? How far was the next cell coverage?
Bruce mcKay was not off duty at the time. He had been called to an emergency call north about a man who previously had his firearms taken away but the police believed they didnt get them all and were going back out. One minute after mauras call he changed his mind and decided not to go to the call then went dark. He was off shift at 11pm that night. There is more to the story as far as the police logs being blacked out as well.
Also most believe Bruce's reasoning for going could be related to him just being a general hard case in relation to traffic violations. Along with the ones you mentioned, he wrote over 300 tickets in the same span his 2 partners wrote 30 combined. He seemed to have a real issue with traffic related offenses.
That story about McKay going "dark", implying he had some evil plan, is just an urban legend. That never happened.
Besides McKay, from Franconia, had no jurisdiction on Havernhill, he had his own town to patrol, plus from listening the dispatch he would have known Smith had that call. McKay might have been a jerk, but there is zero evidence connecting him to Maura.
NO WAYY,YOU can stand on this,as fact....He was reputed ( Legit Complaints lodges Against his ROGUE actions ARE FACT! I got the Documents as well. LISBON Fire dept.Lodged Complaints,Ex franconia Notch : Chief of police WARNED the Selectmen, and waged a harsh complaint .An older women SUED mckay, for Lewd actions, while being detained from him.He Also threatened to : CUT his Wife's C__T out, SHE DID file a Legit Restraining Order ...He was NOTORIOUS, for crossing into other Jurisdictions So frequently, more Police Depts disliked him
LISBON p.D. stated he WAS constantly SPEEDing recklessly, throuout many towns ,on a constant.....CHEW on ALL this.Nevermind Sick attitude of Hell bent Stalking OF a young 15 yr.old : liko kenny! FOR 4-5 YRS.he badgered this young ,innocent man relentlessly, WATCH the UA-cam REAL psycho Videos! His license plate said: GOTCHA! He was Named : Dr.PEPPEP reckless OVERUSE@artunlimited5649
Love your accent man
is it possible to discuss what you guys think the police might know sometime? Strelzin , not sure I spelled that right, says that they don't know where she was going, or what happened to her.
However, it seems like they know something otherwise why wouldn't they talk to Fred about what they do or don't know? and it seems like they haven't done that much in the way of trying to find her, or maybe they're done more than I know or am aware of anyway. it seems like there must have been something on her computer that would give some clues. How much of a coincidence would it be that Maura decided to take a break and get away from it all only to be meet with someone who harmed her and or killed her. ?
Hello SSR insurance? I’m not believing she’s driving around w no DL. To buy a car they need your valid DL too to register it.
about your initial comments I think you're right except I believe in a lot of cases people want the case solved but want to solve it themselves, hence the animosity towards new ideas as those new ideas threaten their chances of being the hero
Did this Bruce McCay really disappear for 2 hours? Maybe he saw her walking down road and she got in b/c he was a cop? But I don’t see him going to scene and parking in front of witnesses…
The only TL that matters is the wreck and when she went poof. Did they do a real S&R search of area? Or did her dad’s comments about suicide stop it. She may of had a head injury and wandered around woods and gotten lost until she looks for a bolt hole until daylight?
Stress does strange things to people and makes them react in equally strange ways. I don't believe Maura's life issues days prior to her disappearance were unconnected to her disappearance. They might be but chances are they're connected.
If no one’s told you today: you’re all winners. Unless you are FSU football, then you definitely are losers. Mkayy good talk byeeee
Sounds like Stephen King's Misery
Seems if I was to backpack anyplace Baileys is what I’d leave behind. Lowest alcohol content. 3 bottles is weight. So take the two that make a drink. The baileys is just the creamy low alcohol content you float on top. Where as the other two make the drink.
I stressed listening to these podcasts. I can't believe what I'm hearing. MM's life is a duplicate of mine at the same age. *Almost an exact duplicate.* Right down to running track, getting caught driving over 100mph, for no reason too, that cop was PISSED, my dad had to get me out of jail, and I also switched from college to nursing school. I'm not even kidding. I didn't have the fraud, didn't do military school, but the drinking, stealing (wasn't caught tho) petty items I could pay for, school issues, worried about being pregnant, the escaping to somewhere private, away from family and friends and boyfriend. I would drive to other states and rent a hotel to get away and think & drink. If I didn't have time to go far, I'd get a room across town. I know what she was going through, I really do. I had a driving record that would make you cry. I stole even when I had the money to pay for petty items. I was an honor student acting insane. I was crying for help, but no one answered. I needed help, but you have to live to get it. Maura was trying to figure out what to do. SHE WAS OVERWHELMED long before she left that day. Everything closed in all at once.
if maura was going to NH to sort out her suspended licence, why would she be driving up there while drinking alcohol.
Because people are illogical, self-destructive and do stupid stuff.
Look over the videos again but who said they actually heard her voice and who says it was her on her home computer? She was with someone she trusted if ATM she's cool
I think alcohol played a big role in her life.
@@samanthab1923 I'm convinced this girl was a raging alcoholic which is extremely odd for a 21 yr old.
@@laurieclarkson9180 You’d be surprised. I think you’re right though. All the signs were there. Because of her extreme athletic abilities she was able to hide it. But it definitely ran in her family. She goes out drinking with the father & practically totals his brand new car. He’s cool with that? No biggy call insurance. Not what we’re you doing out that late driving drunk no less. The whole West Point dismissal. The booze she bought for the ride?
7:30pm w a hitchhiker in a region of resorts, I could see her getting a lift. But then what? Unless it was a robbery & she had that cash on her her dad gave her. And driver saw it?
The only help I see is getting the father to tell the truth and TL from her catatonic state to him leaving her back at school
"Most police officers would kill [for this timeline]." Okay
Why would Maura turn down Butch Atwood in his schoolbus for help, but then hitch a ride from another stranger? That tells me either Butch lied and did something to her, or she had an in tandem driver. (Likely the track coach or another secret person).
I think she'd turn down a ride from a creepy old fat guy and take a ride from a charming person closer to her age. Also he mentioned calling the police which may have spooked her.
Because Butch didn't offer Maura a ride, he offered to call the police. Maura needed a ride not someone calling the police. With all the wine splashed inside the car she would have been arrested.
@@ProsecutorsPodcast "Creepy old fat guy?" No one can accuse you of being politically correct. Hope no "old" or "fat" (and therefore "creepy") person has the back luck to find themselves prosecuted by either of you. Such unflinching, professional, lack of bias.
@@gayelampeman7894 Get over yourself, Gaye.
@@ProsecutorsPodcast Whoa. Just--whoa. I hope other subscribers see this. Screen grab taken--and post reported to YT.
Not so fast about the note found in the dorm room:
Billy does in fact claim to have found an old note from Maura in her dorm room in a sports program. However, he didn't gain access to the dorm room until AFTER police.
Police claim to have found a personal note (old email exchange) between Maura and Billy on top of stacked/packed boxes on Maura's bed.
Not sure why someone is trying to mislead you about this.
Clint Harting
But isn't the old email exchange the note both parties are referring to?
@@ProsecutorsPodcast I already talked to Bill about this. I thought it was concluded that whatever the police discovered they took possession of (before) bill even gained access to Maura's dorm.
I have found that this sort of thing is very common in this case. When someone is telling a certain story,, they convienently leave out pretty important details or even worse twist the details to fit a certain narrative.
Here are some other quick examples:
1. Maura took her homework so it shows she was coming back
Wrong - Maura had in her possession a drug definition guide and a pharmacology textbook (both would be needed for clinicals) . Maura did not have her psychology book and other books from her classroom portion of her schedule that would require you to keep up with homework.
2. Maura was happy at UMASS (I just heard this one on this episode of your podcast)
That seems to be a whopper -- Talk to Maura's other sister Kathleen and if Kathleen is being honest she will probably tell you the complete opposite of what Julie is saying. Maura talked to Kathleen just about every day.
3. Maura just didn't have time to unpack her dorm room from winter break:
This is a beauty that came from folks whom never even went inside Maura's dorm room. No spinning here.
Most accounts you will hear of from the folks that actually entered Maura's dorm will tell you the room appeared packed up.
4. Maura became catatonic because of hearing her sister relapsed
Anotherwhopper ----- in the weeks/months leading up to Maura going missing, I think if any Murray sibling that the family was concerned about it wasn't Kathleen but Maura
5. Maura went to take care of her suspended liscense
That gem is right up there with the liquid found splashed inside Maura's car was likely antifreeze/coolant
Some of these people on this case are so full of shit, it would be comical if not so sad
@@clintharting2221 if there's a second note that would be huge
Maybe she just went to NH to study. She had a lot going on, and could’ve thought that she’d be better off by herself without distractions.
With all that alcohol?
I still don’t get why this case is so “famous”? I’m not into True Crime, so to speak, more fascinating about the minds of these certain kind of murders. I don’t get it why are ppl so obsessed w this particular case? I don’t remember it being a big TV think like Laci P. Did it blow up into a national media? In 2004 I admit I was raising kids & racing a lot up and down coast on sailboats but I usually, when hearing a case like Laci or Casey A, I pay attention. Is it b/c she vanished w/in 10 mins?
Has anyone really searched around the woods, like a S& R team for her body? Remember The Levy case? When she went jogging in DC and no one could find her? Then years later they find her right where she was suppose to be? The only reason I hesitate about that is it was 7° outside. But she was just in that wreck & was drinking…. Idk
I think because of all the strange behavior before her disappearance.
Bingo Alice.
Was there a POSSIBLITY SHE LOANED HER CAR AND ANOTHER DRIVER? S someone else borrowed her car and hit Patrit?
Why didn’t airbags go off or other damage show IF her car WAS involved?
Was she using meds to stay awake in a rigorous program affecting driving? So much this girl was up against
All the pressures of her life. Very sad she had to resort to lying and then covering up mistakes. She was destined for greatness but could not cope in a healthy way.
Maybe she was pregnant - birth control is NOT 100%. Maybe she planned to terminate and that was the “death in the family”
Dear Prosecutors, as much as I love your series, all 3 Minutes a break with commercials is really too too much. I means 21 breaks in a good hour. Thank you.
That must be UA-cam. I'll see if I can fool with it.
Wasn't Fred a POI in the beginning?
Maura's license wasn't suspended in MA. So why would MA cop have noted that?
Fred was never a poi
Moving violations and suspensions from other states show up when police run your driver's license. It's called reciprocity.
And Fred was never a POI.
the audio is unbearable; the female hosts volume is way louder and sharper than the guy
She hit Petrit and covered it up be saying my sister, then got abducted by someone like Forcier, super creepy the whole thing, and her bf was gross and who buys all kinda booze like they're Peter O'Toole on a Vegas binder at 21on finals week? Packed up belongings? oy! twizzlers & diet coke osunds lethal!
No way in hell this woman was driving and wrecking w/out a DL. If she did hit that guy, no wonder she was stressed. I don’t believe she didn’t have a DL b/c the wreck w dad’s car and the cops would of taken her in. Especially if she had an unpaid ticket and fee. That’s crap. I agree she’s a bad driver, but in 2004 in my state I get pulled over they see all my tickets. I have a lead foot and they could see mine in Maryland, NC, Florida. If she was convicted of speeding and didn’t pay, it would show up on that cop’s computer. If she’s not convicted and hasn’t gone to court yet, then it wouldn’t be on her driving record. But my driving record follows me all over USA. I know🙄
I know one thing if he did do it then she is in one of the body’s of water near or around his house. He doesn’t look like the type to dig a hole but Brett you still could be right. We don’t know If she went into the woods at another location but if you think about the tracking dogs and the seven teams of dogs they had later. It is unlikely. They would of picked her scent up. Your right though she hadn’t slept properly in days. She is drunk and just cracked her skull on her windshield probably going 55 or 60. She was in no shape to take a hike. Guaranteed. If she did then she isn’t far and I figure the dogs would of found her.
intro music is too long
Settle down, Augie.
Imho none of your “errors” change the story nor mean much to me except the Baileys b/c 3 bottles of booze are heavy and also clank & could break. Whereas two less chance of breaking, less weight, and don’t make noise
If she was pregnant why would she drink? She’s studying fetal alcohol syndrome? IDT she was preggers. Also has a sister who is an alcoholic. Last thing I’d do if I found out I was pregnant was go buy a ton of top shelf booze and a crappy box of wine🙄
I would have to respectfully disagree on the timeline being insignificant. If witness A is telling the truth. At 7:37 Cecil is on scene. Butch hops out of his bus to run in to tell barb to call the cops when he can see them there already. The dogs track her to the middle of the road in front of his house. He asked her if she wanted to warm up she had already been without heat for 5 minutes by the time he showed up. She is drunk her blood is thin and you get cold quicker. She may have declined at first but when he pulled off and was backing his bus in. I think she changed her mind and that’s when the Westmans seen a flash of activity at the trunk. And atleast went to hide from the cop car she could see coming down the road with its cherrys flashing and in barbs interview she says after he told her to call the cops he said he was going to help her. It would be interesting if we could luminal his bus or who knows. If he left her on the bus and she had taken a box of sleeping pills with the alcohol she drank and then hit her head on that windshield and she laid down on that bus and took a nap while butch helped search. She could of passed away just from that. He might not of killed her. Maybe he helped and she died from the head injury and going to sleep. It looked like she hit hard on that windshield. That’s another thing had she passed out driving from the box of Tylenol pm and the box of wine. Is that how the accident occurred. There are just so many options in this case but she didn’t have time to do a lot from the time it happened until the time Cecil showed up. She doesn’t have a license in that state. She can’t talk to a cop. Butch offered help. She may have declined at first but when he pulled off and went down the street and turned his bus around in the middle of the street to back it in. She grabbed her bottles and back pack and ran to that bus door when she seen that cop coming and turned her charm on butch and he let her get on that bus and hide. I know it. Her sister said they had their guard down up there and they trusted people so is a girl without a license in that state and drunk going to turn down help from a bus driver who looks like he likes to have a drink or two himself. I don’t think so. Especially when you only have minutes before your arrested.
What if the sister slept with Bill?
Do you know the type of men that live in remote places, and the type that become officers in remote places?
U can't really say it's the downfall of the case, because it hasn't been solved yet. So, the most excruciating detail could solve it, theoretically speaking. Can't we all just get along? Lol
Another podcast with disguised voice......Ughhhhhhhhhhhh
I know I talk funny but I've never been accused of disguising my voice before.
Alice you have a beautiful, soothing voice.
@@ProsecutorsPodcast
I listened intently to you all vouces here after reading the 'disguised voice' complaint...and to me..NO ONE sounds altered here. But...if this is the woman who left this comment, who DOES have the only unique voice I hear, I LOVE YOUR VOICE!! I wish MY voice sounded like yous!! You have a beautiful voice. All I know is I really hate hearing my voice played back and would absolutely love to sound like you. 😊
Keep up the good work!
@@vegasjill21 I grew up in southwest Virginia,and I hate my southern drawl (Lol) I moved away at 19,and ended up in Charleston,SC which has not helped with the southern accent if anything it made it worse..I have always wanted to start a UA-cam or podcast but I tell my hubby that people would just make fun of my accent so I let that stop me..I think that both of you sound really professional,and I have no clue what was meant by that altered voice nonsense..Keep up the good work,and I know everyone will keep tuning in if you just keep on keeping it real..
After 4 unnecessary and superficial episodes that were obviously poorly researched, what’s the point of carrying on...just cut your losses! Unfortunately you’re not moving the case forward...just trying to establish your own UA-cam business on the back of a case that’s already been flogged to death! Pretty pointless- short of getting Fred, Sarah Alfieri and Kate Marcopolis (the keys to this case in my view) together in a room to be questioned about the weekend before the disappearance (particularly the party), or the police releasing the files, or a confession, this case will never move forward to a resolution in my view.
Thanks for listening.
For someone who doesn't want anyone else talking about the MM case you sure are listening a lot.
She is Wayyyy to loud! I’m deaf now gosh