Guy Clark: Without Getting Killed or Caught
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Learn about the life and music of Guy Clark, the legendary American singer and songwriter.
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Five years after the legendary Texas singer and songwriter Guy Clark passed away, his life and legacy is celebrated in a new documentary. Without Getting Killed or Caught brings Guy's colourful life and career to the big screen. The film is the brainchild of Grammy award-winning music producer, award-winning author, and documentary filmmaker Tamara Saviano. She and her partner in life Paul Whitfield are the co-directors and co-producers.
The film looks at Guy Clark’s life as he struggles to write poetic songs, while balancing a complicated marriage with his wife Susanna. It is also a story of Guy's friendship with another legendary Texas singer-songwriter, Townes Van Zandt, on whom Susanna forged a passionate dependence. Tamara and Paul talk about what led them to make the documentary, how they gained access to Susanna’s diary and audio tapes, and which other films inspired them the most in their filmmaking.
“They are so good at what they do, yet they remain so grounded and humble, and that attracts people to them.” - Tamara Saviano
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Guest introductions.
00:14 - The trailer for Without Getting Killed or Caught.
03:44 - The premiere of the film at SXSW, and where else the film is being screened.
05:59 - Who Guy and Susanna Clark are.
07:47 - Guy’s resistance to being classed as an "outlaw".
09:05 - Why Tamara and Paul decided to use Susanna as the narrator of the film.
10:13 - The relationship Townes Van Zandt had with Guy and Susanna.
14:05 - How Tamara gained possession of Susanna’s diaries and tapes.
17:24 - Why Townes didn’t fit into Nashville’s country music scene.
21:19 - The tension Susanna’s success caused to her marriage.
24:44 - The comeback Guy made and why he was arguably more successful than Townes.
27:20 - What "Americana" music is and how it’s different from country music.
28:54 - The challenging side of Guy’s personal life and how he dealt with the struggle.
31:27 - What the secret is to Guy’s "greatness".
33:53 - The best albums to listen to if you want to get to know Guy’s music.
36:01 - How Tamara and Paul decided to approach making a documentary about Guy’s life.
40:08 - How they got Sissy Spacek to narrate the film.
44:06 - The different documentaries that inspired Paul and Tamara.
47:07 - How they managed to raise the funds on Kickstarter.
51:33 - What’s next for Paul and Tamara.
Resources:
Without Getting Killed or Caught (2021) www.withoutgettingkilledorcau...
Without Getting Killed or Caught Facebook Group / withoutgettingkilledor...
Guy Clark Music Facebook Page / guyclarkmusic
Guy Clark Film Facebook Page / guyclarkfilm
Connect with Tamara Saviano:
Website tamarasaviano.com/
Instagram / tsaviano
Twitter / tamarasaviano
Connect with Paul Whitfield:
LinkedIn / pdwhitfield
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"Ahh, the knife was made for darker things. You could not bend the rules. "
"and there it slept, and there it stayed, for twenty some odd years.
Sort of like Excalibur, except waiting for a tear".
The Randall Knife.
"How dark is it ?
Too dark for goblins.
How dark is it ?
So dark so can smell the moon
How dark is it ?
So dark, even the wind gets lost".
The dark.
God he was a poet like no one else.
Greetings from Melbourne, Australia.
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Guy wrote three of my favorite songs a true Texas treasure
Nice! Which songs are these?
@@FactualAmericaPodcast la freeway the guitar I will let you know when I think of the other one
Couple of favorite lines although I love them all; "and when you feel like running for the back door, don't, just you wait until the morning when you wake up with me at your side & find I didnt lie bout nothin, and i wouldnt trade a tree for the way i feel about about ya anyhow I love you. Chills, just like "my name was on the case". One of my favorite artists of all time. Got to meet my hero one time sat alone with him for a short time and a couple of questions but mostly precious silence out of respect. I actually felt like him myself and that old guitar that would never stay in tune were all three alone in that dark and empty room lit up my soul that night. Wouldn't trade it for a tree !!! Ohh, chills all over ! Cheers all fellow Mr. Guy Clark fans. Oh and btw haven't seen it yet want to but.... Probably been better in his house if he didn't care I damn sure wouldn't, like the man said "I'm just Guy Clark"
dying to see this film, love. Guy, Susanna, and Townes.💜💜💕✨💫
You can rent it, and support it, by renting it for around $20
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Old No. 1 , Dublin Blues.
When there is something as important as this doco on Guy Clarke i would like to own it ,look at it put it away then bring it out again .cheers from Australia .
Extraordinary documentary of two of the pioneer legends of Americana Roots artists!
Or three
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I love that Guy said he wasn't a country singer. He didn't need or want the label. It makes me think of an artist I truly love who won Artist of the Year at the Americana Music Awards. When presented with the award, he chose to inform them that he wasn't an Americana artist, he was a country artist.
Guy did it right. Take the praise and let everyone else decide for themselves.
Great addition! Thanks for watching!
Who was he Artist of the Year?
@@tcm6756 It was Tyler Childers in 2018. To correct myself, he didn't win Artist of the Year, but Emerging Artist of the Year.
@@lumina1104 Thank you for the response!
So wait, there’s tape after tape of home recordings of Townes playing songs for Guy & Susanna at Guy’s request? Is the quality and sobriety level decent enough to ever release some of these to the public? I’d definitely pay good money for that.
Yeah I would definitely buy that
Me too !
i think i’d rather the sobriety level none existen
Heartworn Highways
Also Steve Earle and Rodney Crowell
Without sounding like someone who knows more than they do, I must say I'm very disappointed in the availability of this film. I never knew the man personally, but as a fan almost my entire adult life, I feel like I know something about him and not sure he'd be happy about $20 to $35 for a temporary viewing.. 🙄
It's very annoying that it's so hard to see. I'm a massive fan of his and I've nowhere in Ireland to watch it at all.
Well, you see, there's been this pandemic & all that's kinda slowed distribution. It was supposed to premier at SXSW but SXSW was cancelled on a/c of, you know, the pandemic thing. Tamara spent 8 yrs w/Guy while writing the book 'Without Getting Killed or Caught', she may have a much better take on what Guy would or wouldn't approve of than we do.
@@Seanybiker Best suggestion I have for the interim is to read the book.
@@zelmo999 yeah defitnely 🙂
@@zelmo999 I can see how Covid delayed the SXSW premier but how did Covid affect the public world-wide distribution? There hasn't been "slowed distribution" there's been no general public distribution whatsoever. Covid isn't the reason for that. The doc has been completed for a few years now. And it's a digital world. The reason is financial. Tamara is holding out for a better deal than she's been offered so far. But she shouldn't hold out too long b/c Guy's hardcore fans aren't getting any younger and it'd be an awful shame if they don't get to see this.
I skew the Guy camp but I love them both. There was something very endearing and heartbreaking about TVZ though, where Guy endured. Together they make far more than the sum of their parts
STOP HE WOULD HATE THIS
I can’t wait to watch this!!!!!
So glad this is now available on on demand. I read the book and it was fantastic
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On demand where please ?
I've been trying to find a way to see this film without paying $25 to do so, does anybody know where it CAN be reasonably seen?
I'd watch it for $25 but I can't even find where to rent it
Really want to see this doc.
Wow! What a great interview, Thank you! I hope you are doing better than breaking even now
in the U.K. Just saw Heartworn Highways, the 1976 documentary on the scene at Guy and Suzanna's house. Now, can't wait to see "Without Getting Killed or Caught." What a testimony to hard work and devotion, and a little help from the great beyond, with the result of this movie. Impressive people, with an impressive interviewer. Again, thank you. Very inspiring!
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Love to see this doco!
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If someone wanted to actually watch the film… like where would they do that????
Just watched it on Amazon last night and it is so wonderful.
It is such a fantastic doc - thank you
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I love Guy and his songwriting... I also don't think its fair to compare two friends and say one is a better songwriter than the other. Guy wrote songs about his life and the world he knew. Townes wrote songs that were somewhere in between life and death. Townes spoke to the ether. It's something very different, even though they go together really well.
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@@FactualAmericaPodcast Thanks for making and sharing this! I love musician biographies. Keep up the good work!
As a big Guy Clark Fan since OLD NO. ONE, I really appreciate this "heads Up". I will be looking for this doc. I hope it streams as that's the only way I'll be able to see it. Thank you.
Hope you enjoy it - thanks for watching this video!
Would you consider doing a doc on Marty Robbins? How do you cover one of the all-time greatest singer-songwriters, NASCAR driver, Navy WW2 veteran, author, actor, TV show host, DJ. Just talking about how Marty saved a guy's life in a NASCAR race would take a whole documentary. Also, Marty's love for his wife Marizona, and love for his two children, Ronnie and Janet.
I wish I could find this documentary and watch it! I can't find it anywhere.
I paid some 30 dollars to pay to watch it. It was unbelievably fantastic
I paid the primo price for three days viewing option, plus a lot of extras.
Guy and Susannah would be shocked. Perhaps charge the same price and give the purchaser 5 links with which to watch the film.
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I wish the audiobook would come out😊
She did the tribute albumn?
Wow! It's great - some of the takes exceed guy's takes.Doesn't seem possible.
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Had the Chance to see him Solo in Frutigen, Switzerland.
Very cool! Thank you for sharing - and for watching!
Must we wait forever for a DVD?
I hope Guy's legacy is not lost to the lawyers, insurance agencies, bureaucratic paperwork & time.
Tamara has said the cost of making it available on DVD would be too exorbitant. Part of it is the cost of paying for music licensing fees.
@@jonathanlee8930
Thank you Mr.Lee. Maybe someday🤞.
I guess I'm kinda old fashioned, like Guy & Townes were.😒
Where can I rent the documentary
It's a little shitty us Guy Clark and Townes fans can't even pay to watch the documentary.
I can't find this anywhere.
So when will we get to see the whole thing. I’ve been waiting forever, I’m so excited and I really hope it does justice.
I saw it. It’s excellent.
Well, we're burnin' daylight!
(I ain't getting any younger ;)
@@Caperhere do you mind if I ask where or what you watched it ?
@@pennysimmons841 it's streaming online at the Without Getting Killed or Caught website.
Thanks
I’m struck by the similarities between Guy and Townes in their youth. Both came from middle class or rich families. Both were very smart, but didn’t do real well at school. Both dropped out of university. Neither could settle down in a job , or a career. Both loved, really loved music. Both had families they tried to please. Both were Texans.
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Put me in the Guy Camp, in deed, the poet with a guitar.
Me too!!
I can’t seem to find this movie anywhere? It’s probably me and but I keep looking for it and the only thing that comes up is this interview??? Where can I stream this movie?
You can go straight to the film's website:
www.withoutgettingkilledorcaught.com/
Thank you for sharing this. I reject the idea of comparing Townes' songs and Guy's songs. Sorry, there was no hierarchy of who's better at this craft.... No.... Hmmm...really glad you made the film but this conversation is a little too superficial for what was really recordings of intimate moments.
It's like who is better at their craft, Merle or Marty? I am a Marty guy and I believe that Marty is the greatest talent ever in C&W, even more than Hank Sr,
Liked her definition of Americana
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Sorry, nobody is a better song writer than Townes.
There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to art. It's not a competition.
@@jonathanlee8930 not a competition, but a preference.
Both Guy and Townes camps here... 👍
I’m dying to say this but I cannot spend $20. I just don’t have it. I’m sure there are a lot of people like me. I think they could make more money if they made it available at a lower cost. I guess I’ll just have to wait.
If you go to the movies how much do you generally spend? I know the cost of a ticket is around $10. Once you add the price of popcorn and drink to that it's around $20. I imagine if Tamara could lower the cost she would. I suspect the reason it's $20 is so she and her husband can help to recoup what it cost to make the movie. The reason it's not out on DVD or streaming platforms is because the cost of doing so is too exorbitant.
Guy's tunes don't suit Nashville because listening to them requires an attention span.
Well said.
Townes was a victim of prejudice against persons with mental health challenges. We all had some of that and these days you can get some treatment and relief. It is amazing with Townes as well as Gram Parsons, Janis Joplin, Lowell George, argh the others! Doctors should have admitted Townes the day before. Are we better for the liberty of action those of us still aswirl in alcohol and whatnot now have to die privately when its just a mood. . .
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I asked if they could offer me a discount code, since I am single dad with two kids and simply cannot afford $30 to view a film. I know the are lucky to break even, but would it would have killed them to let one interested viewer to see it and pay something like $20.
Это фильм о фильме или оригинальный?
Is this the real doc?
That’s what I want to know
No. The doc is totally diff, this is a promo; I've seen the doc 2x on a pre-release basis. (wouldn't watch it twice if I didn't like it) It's been available for payperview on Tamara Saviano;s site for a couple of weeks..
get some vaxed people together& have a watch party for 1 ticket. P.s. know who disagrees w/Tamara about who was better -Guy or Townes? Guy Clark.
This is an interview with the filmmakers
My house is not a theater and one time payment for a one time viewing in the crappy house I am forced to rent is not conducive to art appreciation. I upload my songs to various sites and for free people have downloaded them 100,000 times. Are they good songs? Must be and who is making money? Not I and I spend money making music, making guitars and making other musicians mad and speaking of landlords...they're the worst people in the world. And the 60 year old cow still being milked by an industry “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs." a quote I forgot to add to my Ballad of Hunter Thompson which was noticed only after he checked out. It won't hurt.
Second best ten bucks I ever spent.
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Guy would hate the fact that these two are waiting for a money grab to release this to everyone. Sure, you gotta get paid, but holding out for “your price” is selfish and Guy would have never done that!
Nashville is a very evil place. No wonder they never solved the mystery of that murder. Tanya Tucker knew the guy.
What murder?
@@waylonjr Hay Waylon Jr. Along time ago on Unsolved Mysteries or a similar show aired an episode about some guy named Skeeter or something who got killed.
I am a big fan of Waylon Jennings. Will you please see to it that I sell some arrangement s . I will pay you 50% for the first 3 songs if you would like to help.....
I'm not related to Waylon or the music business if that's what you're thinking, just a nickname a friend called me cause I can sound like him a little.
@@waylonjr I sound like Waylon too.
Imagine having pretentiousness film students make a film about hard living song writers. The only good thing about the film is spreading his name and songs but I can care less about these pretentiousness film makers lol
Tamara was ordained by Guy himself and spent A LOT of time with him the last two or three years of his life and you sound a little pretentious yourself with your dissatisfied proclamation.
The guy doing the interviewer is pretty clueless… you can tell he wants to know what he’s talking about and wants to “get” Guy and Townes and their music… but he seems like he’d be more comfortable interviewing someone for a Luke Bryan or Jason Aldean documentary. Definitely A for effort though…. “Was Guy Clark part of the outlaw movement?”…..🙄 Cringe….
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Springstreen is not humble, quite the opposite
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The Bruce Can't Singsteen connection makes me not wanna watch it. Wealthy New Englanders pretending to be "folksy"