It's appalling Public Relations from the EBU. In 2022 they withdrew the votes from 6 countries (without much explanation) saying that there were voting irregularities. Last year, there was upset about the jury representation (only 5 per country). Have the EBU improved this? AND this year a total disaster.
@@ar50000 Adding more jurors per country would only increase the total impact of the jury and make their votes even more bland and reward risks even less
@@henning1152 But, has The EBU done anything to address the discontent from last year about the make-up/power of the juries? Have we heard anything at all? And now this total disaster and confusion. Why are national broadcasters paying them money for this PR disaster?
Yes, I can't remember a country being disqualified in the middle of the competition before... I feel very sad as the Netherlands was my personal favourite this year. 😞
This year feels uncomfortable and scary. Please stay safe Tom, hope you can still enjoy your time there! ❤ Getting a notification for your videos always calm me down
@@ar50000 It's safe. There's probably more police than civilians on the streets. And especially inside the arena with all the security checks, you can be sure absolutely nothing will happen.
@@CorinMusic2012 Benelux , the trio of belgium , nethelands and luxembourg . its the same as imagine that sweden didn't compete for 30 years and when they return all the Nordics fail to qualify
@@MatthewEade-hj6tfI was literally mentioning Benelux the other day to a coworker who was asking general questions about the EU and EU History, stuff like that. Can’t believe I didn’t immediately think of Benelux reading your initial comment 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
We are out, EBU has officially disqualified us. AVRO TROS regret it and think it is disproportional. They will give a statement later. It is very sad but I personally will still focus on the other entrees. It is unfair to dwell on this and not give them the attention they deserve.
But if Joost Klein really broke the rules & behaved violently towards a camera person (?), as reported, then how can they claim it's disproportional...?
@@florenna Yeah I'm not sure about it either. Another alternative that I think might have been more proportional would have been to allow him to continue taking part, and if he was later found to have been guilty then his result could be scratched. Since if the police later on come to the conclusion that he did nothing wrong, it would have been a great shame to have taken away his opportunity to compete. Also, if this is how EBU has said it will act in situations like this, according to their rules for ESC, it's understandable. Based on their statement I understand that this is the case, but I would actually need to read their rules and policies in detail to confirm it. You can discuss if a rule should be changed, but in the meanwhile it should be followed. (The Swedish national broadcaster is saying it was a photographer.)
They did us Dutch people really dirty here. I hope me will not participate in future contests anymore. I am done with Eurovision as a Dutch fan I feel excluded and I am furious.
UPDATE guys, there's been an update. Joost didn't do shit, he only said something when he had warned that woman a couple of times before. He didn't even touch her WTH!
Happy to have Tom making a video to salvage some of the enthousiasm I've lost in the past 2 days. It's just sad that the media is only talking about 2 countries now, and no one is talking about the music. I needed this !
In my opinion, Slovenia is in the WORST possible position, caught between both favorites for the win. Good luck, Raiven. We are proud of you no matter the outcome! ❤❤
@@добрийвечір-р3ц Don't forget you can vote from the start now and Ukraine is a bit of a 'wow' performance. Still think it's wild they put a potential front-runner in the 'death slot', though.
I am from Ukraine and I am rooting for my girls, but I understand that someone has to perform in the start of the show. It would have been very odd if the organizers picked all of the less popular acts to be in the start, so them being under the number 2 makes sense.
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If a year ago someone told me that Croatia would be leading the odds and Ireland would be a probable top 5 finish, I would laugh at their face. And yet😅
I don't think we can move on as is, and I don't see a moment of self-reflection coming. I can't even watch the final, and I can't see myself watching Eurovision anytime soon. I can not look away from the fact that Israel is, as we speak, committing ethnic cleansing while Europe gathers to sing and dance and at the end of the night, crown Israel as not just "one of us", but "one of our best". (In fact they are the likely winner.) There's no coming back from this day, not for me.
@@ristoravela652 I think the people making bets overestimated the info coming from Italy. Italy is a very conservative country, I'm not surprised the Italian population would vote for Israel. I don't think this reflects the overall sentiment of the European people. I think them sailing up the betting odds is due to people overestimating the significance of this small piece of info we got. They're going to do reasonably well (possibly top ten), but I don't think they'll win.
@@ristoravela652 I don't believe that Israel can win. Jury votes always were political, are there any countries that would want to openly give their points to Israel?
@@ristoravela652i am in the same boat as you, really loved this contest and was willing to brush off 2022 as a particular incident, but since 2020 when martin österdahl has been elected this show has been very messy. i hope they will self reflect and make the choice that if a country is not fit to hold eurovision they shouldnt participate or at least to not put other 30 something candidates in danger over 1 act. very disappointed and i personally wont be watching the final. i'll ask someone to tell me if israel won or not and if they didnt i might rewatch it
Cant believe the ESC had no issue disqualifying The Netherlands (showing that they’re willing and able to disqualify countries) but refuse to disqualify Israel D I S R E P U T E It’s taken all the fun out of this year.
Honesty countries with an ongoing war should NOT compete. Regardless whether we are for or against them. This is a music show. We're here for music. Involving those countries make it not about music. You can always add a section where you mention how these couldn't compete because of war but they shouldn't compete.
@@abcasd8309 Yes. I love Ukraine and their music but people looked down on their win claiming it's political driven and that people only voted for them because of the war. To prevent that and to keep the show about music it is best in my opinion.
It weighs heavy how things has turned out this year especially with such talent it has. I'm still going to watch the finals live at 5am 🇦🇺 but I'm unfortunately not going to be voting this year, even though I still have some favourites in the finals. I just can't justify putting in money after the shitshow this year. (Sorry to Lithuania, Ireland and Switzerland 💕 hopefully they go well regardless).
0:00 Before watching the Video I am starting this video The EBU had just Announced The Netherlands have been disqualified about an hour ago. I'm still in shock this has happened I am an Australian so This is News I woke up to this morning and no one in the Public. My understanding is Joost Klein has been sent Home. If you are in Malmö (or not) please stay safe. I thought Through out the Video I would timestamp where I paused and Give my thought or any new developments I have seen and at the end we will see if I know anymore when the video is over. But this is definitely is a topic a lot of Eurovision UA-camrs will be making videos about. Not everything I say will be about the Joost Klein Incident. 0:38 Unfortunately Not Tom I wonder if the Finnish Broadcasters are glad they didnt win but maybe this wouldn't have happened 1:09 I reckon with the EBU being forced to try something different this year, I wonder if that might mean less Girly Bops open in the Future. Girly Bops will still open sometimes but I wonder if it will happen less. 2:11 I hope Ukraine still come top 5 they definitely deserve to regardless of where they perform. Also I think the EBU thought Ukraine could still get a big televote regardless of where they Performed 3:50 I just refreshed the page with the details and nothing new has come in. He seemed to really enjoy himself in the Semi and I wouldn't want to be the EBU right now. Once Eurovision is over they deserve a holiday somewhere. 6:51 With the Netherlands disqualified that will really help Estonia I think if they weren't left side of the scoreboard already they will be now. 9:41 I definitely think Ireland have succeeded this season even if they somehow come last. I think just Qualifying is a Success for Ireland 10:32 I reckon Latvia will do well with the jurys if Slimane doesn't eat up all his votes 11:44 Originally I didn't like "Zari" but I watched the Semi Performance and I dont mind it. I used to not like it but now its ok 14:54 Just Found out the EBU people have told people not to vote #5 so It looks like countries are keeping the number they originally had as the number to vote for 27:21 I have been a Fan of France from day 1 never leaving my Number 1 spot. I hope they can win if you can Vote France #25 (Even though they are performing 24th it is what it is, which is a mess) 29:41 No New information on the Joost Klein Incident. Hopefully the Victim is ok and this case can be solved ASAP but this is something I will be following
The Swedish police are preparing a report for their prosecutors so there is obviously something to report on. I am sad the Netherlands have been disqualified but once again we appear to be victim blaming.
I love how much of a wild ride it's going to be. Ya the season has been quite...toxic and divisive but the music this year has been unbelievable. I am rooting for Croatia to take the win tonight to prove if you have the right song you can win, politics aren't the determining factor.
This year the running order is odd, compared to earlier. They've put some of the big favorites early, also in the semis even though there wasn't any early voting in the semis. For reference, it was Ireland (semi 1 #4), Ukraine (semi 1 #5, final #2), Switzerland (semi 1 #4) and Lithuania (final #7).
This is the first time I can remember this happening for me Tom so I am not sure how to communicate it, however while Bambie Thug's music is not in my wheelhouse, I thought that the semi final performance, staging and presentation was absolutely out of this world. I understand why you are underselling it, but I think there will be enough televoters for that performance that it is a genuine top five chance. The jury vote will be the killer, but I think they will finish on the left side of the points chart.
Well while I'm obviously very sad about NL DQ, there *is* one country with a similar entry to NL that would fully deserve any votes meant for NL, ie. Finland. (And voting for it would also be saying "screw you" to ESC at the same time!) Not sure why fans would think of just Croatia (though ofc it deserves all the votes as well, but as an alternative to NL, FI is much closer.).
Unfortunately, I have the feeling that Nemo won't even make it to the top 3 :( and as a Swiss person I'll probably have to endure being pushed out of first place again after the tele votes, like in 2021😭 But I hope, despite all the drama and rumors going around, that it will be an exciting duel between Croatia and Switzerland. Both deserve it. Wish you a great Show Tom! I like your analyses very much✨
It's not too out there or unusual. I don't know why people keep saying that tout Portugal and Slovenia. I don't think it will be out there for juries either. Yes, the interpretative dancing is different but it is not out there. I mean there are others using sort of interpretative dancing in the same contest.
I thought someone was innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. EBU why on earth would you disqualify someone without proper reasoning?! To me this seems completely disproportionate and unfair.
@@ar50000 the favorite, I don't think so (as a Dutchie). I feel like this year is hard to predict in general. Still I'd be pissed if anyone was to get disqualified for seemingly nothing.
We don't really know what has happened but from what have come out in the press... Violence and threats is of course not accepted, not towards EBU staff or someone else. I honestly the EBU wanted the Netherlands to withdraw but as they did not, was forced to disqualify... Very sad situation! 😞
That to me means, the allegations are actually pretty serious. They never had to disqualify a country while the contest was already going on. Joost ruined it for himself, yet people seem to think the EBU just disqualifies without a reason.
If, and this is a big if since things are getting messier by the minute, no one else is disqualified/no one withdraws, what's the voting strategy? Don't vote so we don't give the EBU money, but risk a certain country sweeping the televote? Vote Croatia to maximize his points? Vote Switzerland so that they have high jury and televote points?
I think vote for who was the big favourite before everything kicked off - Croatia I dont know what the % split is, but i guess the broadcaster gets more of the money than the EBU does
Regarding the France mic thing: "Making a mistake" can be an effective way to grab people's attention. It kind of knocks you off balance a little bit and forces you to think about what's happening. It's an actual strategy sometimes used in advertising. Not sure if that's what they're doing, but it might have something to do with it.
Hi Tom! Thanks for your commentary! I’m still undecided but leaning towards not watching the final today. EBU is making big mistake by keeping everything under the rug. I already saw everything in semifinals and will vote for my favorites anyhow. Maybe I will just tune in for Lasagna and that’s it. I’m sad seeing my favorite show being ruined for political reasons while pretending not to be politically motivated.
Yes. Every year the secrecy makes it worse. I thought the EBU were desperate for money and want more countries to participate. This is deffo not encouraging it.
Mostly I'm living for the drama but one analytical comment: I think my country(Norway) just barely, barely made it in this year. I think both Netherlands and you-know-who were such big televote magnets that we got squashed a little in the semi, and now we're getting squashed a little in the final too lol. We could end up right-side for the first time since Tix. I also think our staging was more impactful at MGP than at Eurovision, I dunno why but NRK just isn't amazing at translating staging.
i’m not entirely sure if I’m gonna keep watching Eurovision… I really love it but it became mentally draining for me with all the drama (even tho this year is the best song and performances wise imho) Well, definitely not stopping watching you 😂
Same. I watched both semis and really enjoyed the first one, but the second one and all the really bad drama... what a disaster (and EBU did it to themselves) I don't think I'll be watching the finals tonight and it makes me sad because I've loved the ESC since childhood :(
Finland last on jury poins? Not gonna happend 😅 Can u explain why..? Soo bad vocals? or song?. I dont think so... It will be shock how much they will get from jury 🕺🕺
No, juries never liked or rewarded these kinds of performances. It is what it is. It will be especially tough for such an act to get jury points this year when there are so many slick performances and great vocalists just to their liking. I am not guaranteeing it will be last for the jury, but it will be around there. Maybe Estonia will be last for the jury since that is also a fun-like performance, but even less structured. And "The drug song"!!! I mean they are bound to burry it
One sad thing is that if Croatia wins, people will say it only won because everyone threw their votes at it cause they didn't want Is==el to win. I would be happy with them winning, but the EBU needs to recognise the fun that they have seeped from this contest.
I saw this on a Facebook group I'm in. They believed that everyone should throw all their votes on Croatia because they believed, and I quote: "that Baby Lasagna was the only one who could save the contest". I chose to ignore it as I had already pledged all my ROW votes in the final to Nemo
The iceberg must be monstrously huge this year. -My top 5: 🇳🇴🇮🇪🇭🇷🇱🇹🇨🇭 -Jury winner: 🇫🇷 -Televote winner: 🇭🇷 -Winner: 🇨🇭 Switzerland has the optimal televote-jury balance as the most jury-friendly among the expected televote favorites.
My theory about the running order is that they have put a lot of the countries who have won recently/ have a lot of wins early on to give the other countries a chance this year, because of the ‘We just love Eurovsion too much’ song where they said they would ‘try’ not to win again. But that’s just my theory, I’m wishing good luck to Croatia but the EBU is an utter shambles😭
Love the "ballad sandwich" around Finland, and yes, it will make Finland pop all the more 😂 (And needless to say, I just don't get the hate towards it, so utterly undeserved!) Also, everyone who wants to show a middle finger (or a***) to EBU, vote for nr 17 tonight!!! 🖕As that's what the entry's basically doing. ;)
I think opening the voting early can damage some of the later acts. People (and I mean casual viewers) will like some of the first songs and may vote for each once or a couple of times and then when they get to the last 5 or 6 contestants there's no more votes to spend. Hopefuly, I'm wrong
EUROVISION is fireworks, drama and POP. Countries without a decent neighbourhood, will always struggle. Sending quality is a waste of time and effort. Let's see it tonight!
In recent years alone - A rock band won in 2021... Hatari, Go-A and Blind Channel all made the top ten... Cha Cha Cha won the public vote. And this year's two favourites to win are a genre-bending work of art and a metal-inspired banger. The latter of which would bring the first win to his country (after it was official formed, otherwise second).
To be blunt, the EBU decided to F around and found out. This incident won't be the last thing that happens, either. Well let's all take a moment to be honest with ourselves, it will be a miracle if something else does not happen because of Israel's involvement in this contest this year. One way or another, someone's going to say something that's going to make Petra have to come up with something very witty to distract on the Fly. At the very least, there will be in Iceland situation. And the Ebu had every opportunity to avoid this washing their hands of controversy by asking Israel to take a step back from the contest, there now in severe danger of having something very very controversial happen that rocks the boat far more.
I believe the true reason behind EBU desicions on the matter is the actual belief that bad attitude against Israel is actually a minority opinion in Europe, albeit very loud due to protests. This also is based on many recent elections with the rights claiming more and more power throughout different countries (them being generally more pro-Israel). The ESC fans being overwhelmingly disagreeing with this (as it seems) doesn't influence their desicion as they just don't give a sht about bunch of people comparing to the millions of the actual show audience, even though most of them only tunes in once in a year. Politics as is. To be clear, I personally don't think disqualification would be a good decision though, despite all the difficulties and drama it further involved, I just don't think EBU is in the right place to judge here. (I know I might get a lot of backlash for this opinion, but I think that people are just not looking outside their bubble and comfort zone enough which is dangerous long-term)
Did anyone else had an ad with Elen called "vote for Israel" before this video? Edit: I thought I went crazy, but it popped once again and it's region-oriented, cause she speaks my native language in the ad. Hopefully you won't get this jumpscare
First I enjoyed watching Eurovision Semi Final 1 and 2 but now I am not excited at all to watch Eurovision this year I am very upset that The Netherlands got DQ when this season ends I hope Martin Osterdahl resigns and btw I love your videos and good luck to Ireland I hope you get placed in the left score board and do well and I hope Croatia wins Eurovision
The rest of the world vote was delayed, and when the DQ was announced is when it opened. So no, nobody voted for him because they saw this coming and made sure it didn't happen.
It's strange because in every communication they've made sure to point out that the incident occurred with a FEMALE member of production. The sex of the person he had an incident with shouldn't matter, unless they are trying to imply that he missbehaved. I think they took a decision last night but they have postponed the announcement as much as possible to try to avoid the people protesting.
I'll be proud of Bambie no matter where they place in the final, the fact that Ireland got into the final and had in my opinion the best performance of semi 1 feels like such a win. But it is pretty exciting hearing potential winner vibes 😅🥰🫶🏽
They have ruined it this year, I was swaiting so long and was so excited for almost two months and last two days just want it to end - however will be voting for Croatia now when the lines open for the REST of THE WORLD from Kosovo - I am rooting for Croatias first win and their performance in semis was amazing - good luck to everyone but my heart says CROATIA WINNER
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We need a video after the final just explaining all the drama that happened.
Yup, and it's totally fine if it's going to be very rant-y. Sometimes we need rants to heal ;-)
Yes and EBU as an organisation need to get their head out other own ass and carry the responsibility of their own International organisation.
Easy, I will explain it in one sentence: The Eurovision is organized by Zionists.
This year has been an utter shitshow
It's appalling Public Relations from the EBU. In 2022 they withdrew the votes from 6 countries (without much explanation) saying that there were voting irregularities. Last year, there was upset about the jury representation (only 5 per country). Have the EBU improved this? AND this year a total disaster.
@@ar50000 Adding more jurors per country would only increase the total impact of the jury and make their votes even more bland and reward risks even less
@@henning1152 But, has The EBU done anything to address the discontent from last year about the make-up/power of the juries? Have we heard anything at all? And now this total disaster and confusion. Why are national broadcasters paying them money for this PR disaster?
Yes, I can't remember a country being disqualified in the middle of the competition before... I feel very sad as the Netherlands was my personal favourite this year. 😞
@henning1152 not if there's more diversity. More rock, opera, alternative, electronic musicians.
I'm waiting 30 years for Croatia's first ever victory on esc and I hope my childhood dream will tonight come true
in 2023 Croatia had simply the best performance among all countries! I really cheered for them. greetings from Ukraine!
@@evgeniypetrenko1871 Totaly agree, Croatia deserves to take this one with such a cool entry. Greetings from Lithuania
12 points from Portugal! 🤘
Croatia should take the win. Best wishes from the Philippines
I wish, I root for Croatia. But sadly I think there's a very motivated political bloc that will try to prevent it to give it to Isr*el
This year feels uncomfortable and scary. Please stay safe Tom, hope you can still enjoy your time there! ❤
Getting a notification for your videos always calm me down
Just leave. Is is even safe being there?
Stop overreacting lol.
@@ar50000 It's safe. There's probably more police than civilians on the streets. And especially inside the arena with all the security checks, you can be sure absolutely nothing will happen.
@@ar50000 Im nearby now and they definitely have things under control
Ironically on Luxembourg's return neither the Netherlands or Belgium are in the final
Why is that ironic?
@@CorinMusic2012 Benelux , the trio of belgium , nethelands and luxembourg . its the same as imagine that sweden didn't compete for 30 years and when they return all the Nordics fail to qualify
@@MatthewEade-hj6tfI was literally mentioning Benelux the other day to a coworker who was asking general questions about the EU and EU History, stuff like that. Can’t believe I didn’t immediately think of Benelux reading your initial comment 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
NO German in Euorivison his year!
@@РазомСила-м2я Haha , its okay everyone forgets things
00:40 “gonna assume that everything is great” oh Tom you sweet summer child
UNITED BY MESS 😅❤
More divided than anything lmao
UNITED BY BABY LASAGNA
United by "you are pro-zionism or you get disqualified"
We are out, EBU has officially disqualified us. AVRO TROS regret it and think it is disproportional. They will give a statement later. It is very sad but I personally will still focus on the other entrees. It is unfair to dwell on this and not give them the attention they deserve.
AVOTROS should demand all their money back.
But if Joost Klein really broke the rules & behaved violently towards a camera person (?), as reported, then how can they claim it's disproportional...?
@@florenna he used "words" which are violence now apparently?
@@florennait's just confirmed by the police that there was no physical violence, apparently a threat but there isn't much information
@@florenna Yeah I'm not sure about it either. Another alternative that I think might have been more proportional would have been to allow him to continue taking part, and if he was later found to have been guilty then his result could be scratched. Since if the police later on come to the conclusion that he did nothing wrong, it would have been a great shame to have taken away his opportunity to compete. Also, if this is how EBU has said it will act in situations like this, according to their rules for ESC, it's understandable. Based on their statement I understand that this is the case, but I would actually need to read their rules and policies in detail to confirm it. You can discuss if a rule should be changed, but in the meanwhile it should be followed. (The Swedish national broadcaster is saying it was a photographer.)
They did us Dutch people really dirty here. I hope me will not participate in future contests anymore. I am done with Eurovision as a Dutch fan I feel excluded and I am furious.
Israel did
But you still don't know what the reason is ! What if he actually did something brutal ? You still defend him? I Guess so...
@@ThaGamingMisfithe did not do anything physically so it can’t be that brutal
Yeah, they've done both the Dutch and the Ukrainians dirty.
ISRAEL MADE IT UNSAFE FOR EVERYONE
UPDATE guys, there's been an update. Joost didn't do shit, he only said something when he had warned that woman a couple of times before. He didn't even touch her WTH!
Idiotic comment! Did mit do shit! Stupid bully! Kick out 👍!
We’re going to need a documentary about Eurovision 2024. Absolutely crazy.
This show has to be disqualified and repeated in a couple of months.
@@in_wino_veritas without israel.
@@Hectorien_ of course
Happy to have Tom making a video to salvage some of the enthousiasm I've lost in the past 2 days. It's just sad that the media is only talking about 2 countries now, and no one is talking about the music. I needed this !
Oh Tom…. I can imagine how sad you are feeling now… Joost was also my number one … 😢 stay strong! We’re here with you!
In my opinion, Slovenia is in the WORST possible position, caught between both favorites for the win. Good luck, Raiven. We are proud of you no matter the outcome! ❤❤
Ukraine is also situated in a bad place. Hope that there will be something special in the perfomance
Is god or bad! Wil see! Maybe is god for croatian peaple and vote for her!
@@добрийвечір-р3ц Don't forget you can vote from the start now and Ukraine is a bit of a 'wow' performance. Still think it's wild they put a potential front-runner in the 'death slot', though.
True, both Ukraine and and Slovenia are in worst position, but they would have robbed the Netherlands as well, I guess.
Very good positive take on tonight. Let's focus on that.
Thank you Tom for your fantastic analysis as always. I think we all needed some normalcy today ❤ Much love from Australia 🇦🇺
Just imagine if this year is your first Eurovision 😂😭
those people are making a sharp exit ☠️
Crowd last year: Cha cha cha
Crowd this year: Europapa
I honestly think that Switzerland would be the best choice for a winner since they’re the neutral country
Awesome coverage this year, Tom! Can't wait for the big debrief and analysis 💙💙💙
I’m glad you gave each act the screen time they deserve. ☮️
This.💯
They way he quickly skipped number 6 lol
@@andrzejszarek3346 That's exactly what hippopotamusbosch was surely referring to ;)
@@andrzejszarek3346 you missed a key word, called "deserve"
gave too much time to number 6 tbf
I am from Ukraine and I am rooting for my girls, but I understand that someone has to perform in the start of the show. It would have been very odd if the organizers picked all of the less popular acts to be in the start, so them being under the number 2 makes sense.
Hoping for nice grand final without any further trouble.
I think it will be fine. Just a little booing for israel, thats it. Im hoping, at least.
@@Hectorien_Booing will hurt the delegates who work there on stage more than those who are actually running or engaging the war.
You still are watching this mess, even the scoring leaked by Italy showed that the voting is rigged by bots
@@haraldsamak9494I absolutely agree! It’s really unfortunate for Eden and her team that they found success when they did.
I LOVE how Tom totally SKIPPED that country 😂 You look so handsome, Tom 😍
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If a year ago someone told me that Croatia would be leading the odds and Ireland would be a probable top 5 finish, I would laugh at their face. And yet😅
I just pray things somehow work out tonight. Salvage what is salvageable, enjoy what can be enjoyed and hopefully be able to move on.
I don't think we can move on as is, and I don't see a moment of self-reflection coming.
I can't even watch the final, and I can't see myself watching Eurovision anytime soon.
I can not look away from the fact that Israel is, as we speak, committing ethnic cleansing while Europe gathers to sing and dance and at the end of the night, crown Israel as not just "one of us", but "one of our best".
(In fact they are the likely winner.)
There's no coming back from this day, not for me.
@@ristoravela652That’s a fair position
@@ristoravela652 I think the people making bets overestimated the info coming from Italy. Italy is a very conservative country, I'm not surprised the Italian population would vote for Israel. I don't think this reflects the overall sentiment of the European people. I think them sailing up the betting odds is due to people overestimating the significance of this small piece of info we got. They're going to do reasonably well (possibly top ten), but I don't think they'll win.
@@ristoravela652 I don't believe that Israel can win. Jury votes always were political, are there any countries that would want to openly give their points to Israel?
@@ristoravela652i am in the same boat as you, really loved this contest and was willing to brush off 2022 as a particular incident, but since 2020 when martin österdahl has been elected this show has been very messy. i hope they will self reflect and make the choice that if a country is not fit to hold eurovision they shouldnt participate or at least to not put other 30 something candidates in danger over 1 act. very disappointed and i personally wont be watching the final. i'll ask someone to tell me if israel won or not and if they didnt i might rewatch it
I was so excited for this week and still was after semi 1, but there is so much going on right now that really is a let down.
I love how in depth you went on Israel :D
Cant believe the ESC had no issue disqualifying The Netherlands (showing that they’re willing and able to disqualify countries) but refuse to disqualify Israel
D I S R E P U T E
It’s taken all the fun out of this year.
The difference is that the actual artist did something. We don't know the details but it looks pretty serious. The police are investigating.
@@xway2nope it is not of a big deal the Dutch broadcaster said🤔
YUP 😐
Joost Klein officially disqualified.
Honesty countries with an ongoing war should NOT compete. Regardless whether we are for or against them. This is a music show. We're here for music. Involving those countries make it not about music. You can always add a section where you mention how these couldn't compete because of war but they shouldn't compete.
so ukraine doesnt need to compete as well?
I agree
I agree. The EBU should put this in their rulebook
@@abcasd8309 Yes. I love Ukraine and their music but people looked down on their win claiming it's political driven and that people only voted for them because of the war. To prevent that and to keep the show about music it is best in my opinion.
@@abcasd8309 Exactly
I was so excited for this years Eurovision and now I'm just waiting for it be over hoping everything turns out at least fine
Here a Dutchman who is sad but i wish every country good luck tonight ❤
hope you can have a great time Tom, despite everything going on. Stay safe, love from down under
(SIX WE HAVE ISRAEL) then the blackout... hahahaha, am so in love with you.
Good luck everyone! Love from Georgia!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Have you got tickets for tonight?
It weighs heavy how things has turned out this year especially with such talent it has. I'm still going to watch the finals live at 5am 🇦🇺 but I'm unfortunately not going to be voting this year, even though I still have some favourites in the finals. I just can't justify putting in money after the shitshow this year.
(Sorry to Lithuania, Ireland and Switzerland 💕 hopefully they go well regardless).
0:00 Before watching the Video I am starting this video The EBU had just Announced The Netherlands have been disqualified about an hour ago. I'm still in shock this has happened I am an Australian so This is News I woke up to this morning and no one in the Public. My understanding is Joost Klein has been sent Home. If you are in Malmö (or not) please stay safe. I thought Through out the Video I would timestamp where I paused and Give my thought or any new developments I have seen and at the end we will see if I know anymore when the video is over. But this is definitely is a topic a lot of Eurovision UA-camrs will be making videos about. Not everything I say will be about the Joost Klein Incident.
0:38 Unfortunately Not Tom I wonder if the Finnish Broadcasters are glad they didnt win but maybe this wouldn't have happened
1:09 I reckon with the EBU being forced to try something different this year, I wonder if that might mean less Girly Bops open in the Future. Girly Bops will still open sometimes but I wonder if it will happen less.
2:11 I hope Ukraine still come top 5 they definitely deserve to regardless of where they perform. Also I think the EBU thought Ukraine could still get a big televote regardless of where they Performed
3:50 I just refreshed the page with the details and nothing new has come in. He seemed to really enjoy himself in the Semi and I wouldn't want to be the EBU right now. Once Eurovision is over they deserve a holiday somewhere.
6:51 With the Netherlands disqualified that will really help Estonia I think if they weren't left side of the scoreboard already they will be now.
9:41 I definitely think Ireland have succeeded this season even if they somehow come last. I think just Qualifying is a Success for Ireland
10:32 I reckon Latvia will do well with the jurys if Slimane doesn't eat up all his votes
11:44 Originally I didn't like "Zari" but I watched the Semi Performance and I dont mind it. I used to not like it but now its ok
14:54 Just Found out the EBU people have told people not to vote #5 so It looks like countries are keeping the number they originally had as the number to vote for
27:21 I have been a Fan of France from day 1 never leaving my Number 1 spot. I hope they can win if you can Vote France #25
(Even though they are performing 24th it is what it is, which is a mess)
29:41 No New information on the Joost Klein Incident. Hopefully the Victim is ok and this case can be solved ASAP but this is something I will be following
The Swedish police are preparing a report for their prosecutors so there is obviously something to report on. I am sad the Netherlands have been disqualified but once again we appear to be victim blaming.
As always great analysis Tom
As of now, Joost won't participate in the finals. The EBU made a statement a few minutes ago
Omg what?!
@@erinnadia0409 Yeah, they disqualified Netherlands.
@@RubyChiang fuck! I don't know if I want to watch the final now! Maybe I'll just sleep in instead (I'm living in Australia)
Not gonna watch anymore!! Eurovision👏
The video got old so very quickly (not your fault of course)
I love how much of a wild ride it's going to be. Ya the season has been quite...toxic and divisive but the music this year has been unbelievable. I am rooting for Croatia to take the win tonight to prove if you have the right song you can win, politics aren't the determining factor.
This year the running order is odd, compared to earlier. They've put some of the big favorites early, also in the semis even though there wasn't any early voting in the semis. For reference, it was Ireland (semi 1 #4), Ukraine (semi 1 #5, final #2), Switzerland (semi 1 #4) and Lithuania (final #7).
This is the first time I can remember this happening for me Tom so I am not sure how to communicate it, however while Bambie Thug's music is not in my wheelhouse, I thought that the semi final performance, staging and presentation was absolutely out of this world. I understand why you are underselling it, but I think there will be enough televoters for that performance that it is a genuine top five chance. The jury vote will be the killer, but I think they will finish on the left side of the points chart.
The Netherlands has been disqualified
well I guess with no Netherlands to vote for, it's an easier decision for me now. Croatia will be having most of my votes.
Well while I'm obviously very sad about NL DQ, there *is* one country with a similar entry to NL that would fully deserve any votes meant for NL, ie. Finland. (And voting for it would also be saying "screw you" to ESC at the same time!) Not sure why fans would think of just Croatia (though ofc it deserves all the votes as well, but as an alternative to NL, FI is much closer.).
@@florenna In the words of Kaarija “No Rules!”
I literally have no words for all of this
Unfortunately, I have the feeling that Nemo won't even make it to the top 3 :( and as a Swiss person I'll probably have to endure being pushed out of first place again after the tele votes, like in 2021😭
But I hope, despite all the drama and rumors going around, that it will be an exciting duel between Croatia and Switzerland. Both deserve it. Wish you a great Show Tom! I like your analyses very much✨
Congratz, NEMO WON!!!
@@milest4214 My heart was racing at the end😭❤️
Wouldn't being earlier on be a benefit since voting opens up at the start thus giving early entries more time for people to vote for them?
At this point I'm not excited about the Final!! I just want anyone to win except "that country", otherwise the contest will be dead.
I'm not as confident that Portugal will do well with the juries... I'm worried they will think it's too "out there" and unusual.
I hope not
@@henriikkak2091 I hope I'm wrong!
It's not too out there or unusual. I don't know why people keep saying that tout Portugal and Slovenia. I don't think it will be out there for juries either. Yes, the interpretative dancing is different but it is not out there. I mean there are others using sort of interpretative dancing in the same contest.
I thought someone was innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. EBU why on earth would you disqualify someone without proper reasoning?! To me this seems completely disproportionate and unfair.
Taking out the favorite, so someone else can win?
@@ar50000 the favorite, I don't think so (as a Dutchie). I feel like this year is hard to predict in general. Still I'd be pissed if anyone was to get disqualified for seemingly nothing.
We don't really know what has happened but from what have come out in the press... Violence and threats is of course not accepted, not towards EBU staff or someone else. I honestly the EBU wanted the Netherlands to withdraw but as they did not, was forced to disqualify... Very sad situation! 😞
@@MrMsDingdingding If that was (confirmed) the case they should come out with a statement immediately, and not do it like this.
That to me means, the allegations are actually pretty serious. They never had to disqualify a country while the contest was already going on. Joost ruined it for himself, yet people seem to think the EBU just disqualifies without a reason.
Guys, Joost is disqualified! I am shocked! I can't believe it
Neither can I. It's crazy.
@@Elderflowerpunch yes, absolutely crazy
This Eurovision should be legally challenged and repeated.
Thank you so much for all the coverage. Sucks that i had to explain my family all the drama.
what a mess, honestly.
If, and this is a big if since things are getting messier by the minute, no one else is disqualified/no one withdraws, what's the voting strategy? Don't vote so we don't give the EBU money, but risk a certain country sweeping the televote? Vote Croatia to maximize his points? Vote Switzerland so that they have high jury and televote points?
I think vote for who was the big favourite before everything kicked off - Croatia
I dont know what the % split is, but i guess the broadcaster gets more of the money than the EBU does
Regarding the France mic thing: "Making a mistake" can be an effective way to grab people's attention. It kind of knocks you off balance a little bit and forces you to think about what's happening. It's an actual strategy sometimes used in advertising. Not sure if that's what they're doing, but it might have something to do with it.
Hi Tom! Thanks for your commentary! I’m still undecided but leaning towards not watching the final today. EBU is making big mistake by keeping everything under the rug. I already saw everything in semifinals and will vote for my favorites anyhow. Maybe I will just tune in for Lasagna and that’s it. I’m sad seeing my favorite show being ruined for political reasons while pretending not to be politically motivated.
Yes. Every year the secrecy makes it worse. I thought the EBU were desperate for money and want more countries to participate. This is deffo not encouraging it.
Mostly I'm living for the drama but one analytical comment: I think my country(Norway) just barely, barely made it in this year. I think both Netherlands and you-know-who were such big televote magnets that we got squashed a little in the semi, and now we're getting squashed a little in the final too lol. We could end up right-side for the first time since Tix. I also think our staging was more impactful at MGP than at Eurovision, I dunno why but NRK just isn't amazing at translating staging.
haha “sixth up we have Israel. Seventh up, Lithuania with Silvester Belt”
i’m not entirely sure if I’m gonna keep watching Eurovision… I really love it but it became mentally draining for me with all the drama (even tho this year is the best song and performances wise imho)
Well, definitely not stopping watching you 😂
Same. I watched both semis and really enjoyed the first one, but the second one and all the really bad drama... what a disaster (and EBU did it to themselves)
I don't think I'll be watching the finals tonight and it makes me sad because I've loved the ESC since childhood :(
Finland last on jury poins? Not gonna happend 😅 Can u explain why..? Soo bad vocals? or song?. I dont think so... It will be shock how much they will get from jury 🕺🕺
Here's hoping it will! 😅 But I'm not very confident about juries, seeing last year's result...
No, juries never liked or rewarded these kinds of performances. It is what it is. It will be especially tough for such an act to get jury points this year when there are so many slick performances and great vocalists just to their liking. I am not guaranteeing it will be last for the jury, but it will be around there. Maybe Estonia will be last for the jury since that is also a fun-like performance, but even less structured. And "The drug song"!!! I mean they are bound to burry it
@@belosevickris3379 prediction brilliantly executed, sir 😂
One sad thing is that if Croatia wins, people will say it only won because everyone threw their votes at it cause they didn't want Is==el to win. I would be happy with them winning, but the EBU needs to recognise the fun that they have seeped from this contest.
I saw this on a Facebook group I'm in. They believed that everyone should throw all their votes on Croatia because they believed, and I quote: "that Baby Lasagna was the only one who could save the contest". I chose to ignore it as I had already pledged all my ROW votes in the final to Nemo
Video for your opinion on the drama please.
The iceberg must be monstrously huge this year.
-My top 5:
🇳🇴🇮🇪🇭🇷🇱🇹🇨🇭
-Jury winner:
🇫🇷
-Televote winner:
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-Winner:
🇨🇭
Switzerland has the optimal televote-jury balance as the most jury-friendly among the expected televote favorites.
So Belgium, who finished 11th in Semi Final 2, takes the place of the Netherlands.
Belgium finished 13. Czechia finished in 11th
Back when we were all still somewhat happy 😮💨
My theory about the running order is that they have put a lot of the countries who have won recently/ have a lot of wins early on to give the other countries a chance this year, because of the ‘We just love Eurovsion too much’ song where they said they would ‘try’ not to win again. But that’s just my theory, I’m wishing good luck to Croatia but the EBU is an utter shambles😭
Love the "ballad sandwich" around Finland, and yes, it will make Finland pop all the more 😂 (And needless to say, I just don't get the hate towards it, so utterly undeserved!) Also, everyone who wants to show a middle finger (or a***) to EBU, vote for nr 17 tonight!!! 🖕As that's what the entry's basically doing. ;)
The disdain comes from the crudity, the childishness, and the absence of anything meaningful or worthy about Finland's entry.
The latter half is such a rollercoaster!
I think opening the voting early can damage some of the later acts.
People (and I mean casual viewers) will like some of the first songs and may vote for each once or a couple of times and then when they get to the last 5 or 6 contestants there's no more votes to spend.
Hopefuly, I'm wrong
Possibly. However, that will even out some of the imbalances in the running order: Maybe the so-called death spots won't be so bad.
EUROVISION is fireworks, drama and POP. Countries without a decent neighbourhood, will always struggle. Sending quality is a waste of time and effort. Let's see it tonight!
In recent years alone - A rock band won in 2021... Hatari, Go-A and Blind Channel all made the top ten... Cha Cha Cha won the public vote. And this year's two favourites to win are a genre-bending work of art and a metal-inspired banger. The latter of which would bring the first win to his country (after it was official formed, otherwise second).
To be blunt, the EBU decided to F around and found out. This incident won't be the last thing that happens, either. Well let's all take a moment to be honest with ourselves, it will be a miracle if something else does not happen because of Israel's involvement in this contest this year. One way or another, someone's going to say something that's going to make Petra have to come up with something very witty to distract on the Fly. At the very least, there will be in Iceland situation.
And the Ebu had every opportunity to avoid this washing their hands of controversy by asking Israel to take a step back from the contest, there now in severe danger of having something very very controversial happen that rocks the boat far more.
I believe the true reason behind EBU desicions on the matter is the actual belief that bad attitude against Israel is actually a minority opinion in Europe, albeit very loud due to protests. This also is based on many recent elections with the rights claiming more and more power throughout different countries (them being generally more pro-Israel).
The ESC fans being overwhelmingly disagreeing with this (as it seems) doesn't influence their desicion as they just don't give a sht about bunch of people comparing to the millions of the actual show audience, even though most of them only tunes in once in a year. Politics as is.
To be clear, I personally don't think disqualification would be a good decision though, despite all the difficulties and drama it further involved, I just don't think EBU is in the right place to judge here. (I know I might get a lot of backlash for this opinion, but I think that people are just not looking outside their bubble and comfort zone enough which is dangerous long-term)
JUSTICE FOR JOOST
I wish to hear on Eurovision something like this again: Eimear Quinn - The Voice
Skipping that 6th confirms that u are the best esc-youtuber 🤝
Did anyone else had an ad with Elen called "vote for Israel" before this video?
Edit: I thought I went crazy, but it popped once again and it's region-oriented, cause she speaks my native language in the ad. Hopefully you won't get this jumpscare
No (luckily!).
Yes
First I enjoyed watching Eurovision Semi Final 1 and 2 but now I am not excited at all to watch Eurovision this year I am very upset that The Netherlands got DQ when this season ends I hope Martin Osterdahl resigns and btw I love your videos and good luck to Ireland I hope you get placed in the left score board and do well and I hope Croatia wins Eurovision
“Sixth up we have Israel…. seventh is Lithuania” 😂
Did the rest of the world vote yesterday? Money back?
Definitely. And I bet, The Netherlands have gotten a lot of points from it.
The rest of the world vote was delayed, and when the DQ was announced is when it opened. So no, nobody voted for him because they saw this coming and made sure it didn't happen.
Thanks from Portugal ❤❤❤
It's strange because in every communication they've made sure to point out that the incident occurred with a FEMALE member of production. The sex of the person he had an incident with shouldn't matter, unless they are trying to imply that he missbehaved.
I think they took a decision last night but they have postponed the announcement as much as possible to try to avoid the people protesting.
I was waiting to hear about israel, why did you skip them?
I'll be proud of Bambie no matter where they place in the final, the fact that Ireland got into the final and had in my opinion the best performance of semi 1 feels like such a win.
But it is pretty exciting hearing potential winner vibes 😅🥰🫶🏽
They have ruined it this year, I was swaiting so long and was so excited for almost two months and last two days just want it to end - however will be voting for Croatia now when the lines open for the REST of THE WORLD from Kosovo - I am rooting for Croatias first win and their performance in semis was amazing - good luck to everyone but my heart says CROATIA WINNER
The "drug" song 🤣
Great work Tom. I hope Angelina shines. - Croatia winning would top a bad year for me. I have no time for it, I'm afraid.
Tom what's happening with Ireland Switzerland & Greece ?
What do you mean?
This 3 country does not showing up at the flag ceremony in final rehearsal.
No way you just referred to my favorite participant Gabe Horn💀
Did France mess up in the Jury final ? thought you would have metioned it !!!
this video was shot before jury final. my comments about jury final are on twitter
21:33. Nope. Get out the checkbook and see you around next year in Switzerland !
I still like the Europapa song. It's my favourite. But also Croatia or Ireland for the win. I'd be happy with either.
EBU ESC 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Joost in the thumbnail 💔 he has been disqualified 💔
No Israel?
Rumors currently in the Netherlands that we consider to withdraw from the contests as a result of the DQ of Joost klein.
I guess Netherlands are withdrawing from the contest for a few years now...
Very good
this years been a complete shitshow, stay safe tom