Cundy & O'Hara DISCUSS What NEEDS To Change At Tottenham After DEFEAT To Arsenal!😳👀 | talkSPORT
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Jason Cundy and Jamie O'Hara discuss the problems facing Tottenham, after their North London derby defeat to Arsenal.
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Nothing needs to change, it’s who we are mate
Dwl lol 😂
You lost against Arsenal for crying out loud. You'd are going round like someone's killed your dog or something. Genuinely spurs fans are the only fans who are surprised by the end result. Every other fan expected that game to go the way it did. The only actual surprising thing about that game is that the goal didn't come sooner and there weren't more of them. I mean honestly given your team and their team why did you expect to go into that game and get a result from it?
yes there is change the logo change the name change everything and that maybe something will change or just maybe spurs is just curse
Well done say it how it is you are like a small dog who thinks they're big. COYG
EXACTLY 💯 🤣🤣🤣...SPURS ARE JUST WASHED AND FOREVER WILL BE ..."STILL SPURSY MATE"
Ben White - £50m
Odegaard - £35m
Gabriel - £27m
Saliba - £27m
It's just excuses.
Brilliant, come on you gunners 💪
Only because arteta has made them better, thst was there actual value at the time arsenal bought them, arteta carrying the whole club
@@tikemyson5627 watch the video and listen again. They are suggesting to buy decent players it will cost 70+... That's the whole point in a coach isn't it? Lol
Manager is the difference between us and spurs. Our manager actually makes players better.
@@tikemyson5627 Which makes it really bad if you can't coach players with potential while you're going through the rebuild by buying such players.
There were plenty of managers who won big by just assembling established players in their prime and replacing them when the time was right. ie Mourinho.
Arteta coaches players, but doesn't shy away from brining in veterans and established players.
Ange doesn't seem to be doing any of those. Does he really expect he will be there by the time youngsters he bought start performing?
Or is it just a case of Chelsea? Owners buy players, manager tries to fit them in?
110 for Solanke and Johnson is too expensive.
Solanke could be worth his part of that 110 though.
When you think Newcastle United got Isak and Bruno for £10m less than those two...
@@joneve8347 Johnson not worth all the money didn't on him. But to early to write solanke off.
@@RhysChadwick when you miss bread and butter chances for a striker like Solanke did. They're right to judge him. The elephant in the room is his misses. Had he taken just one of them, we wouldn't be in a pity situation we're in now.
@@HDsharp All strikers miss chances. Look at the conversion rate of any striker you'll see that and all players have a bad game. Even if he'd had more chances or taken more shots there's no guarantee he'd have scored. Point is he's a striker that we know can produce goals and a good amount of them. You's just need to have some patience. You's are being way too critical and expecting way to much from a player that's only played 2 games. 1 of which being against one of best teams in the world at the moments with the best defense in the league. If he still hasn't scored in the next 3 games then yeah start moaning and if he hasn't scored in 10 then yeah write him off. But 2 games in and over a defeat against one of the best teams in the league. He honest did you actually go into that Arsenal game expecting anything other than to lose?
Forfeit and throw games, it’s a fanbase mentality
Bro
The fans are the ones causing there team to lose
Damn right. To get so low to want your own team to lose...
Well Solanke cost £65M which now makes Havertz look like a bargain
But havertz had no shot in that game
He didn’t need to he made runs fights for balls and did what arteta needed we came with a plan and executed it havertz has been exceptional overall Maddison went missing some pundits gave Odegard a higher match mark than Maddison and he didn’t even play lol
What you on about solanke has scored more goals then haverts last season playing for bournemouth 👀. It’s also took haverts 10 games to get going and loads of arsenal fans wanted him propped 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️.
@@TimG2553don't waste your time replying these rubbish trophyless fans where its now called Arsenal training ground 😅😅😅😅😅
@@SnowMan-qp7gc I can’t resist sometime 3 point lane is our second home lol 😂
Trossard, 30 million. Havertz 65 million Total 95 million. Both cost less than Solanke and Johnson and are miles better.
Trossard is 20 +7m
Be honest all 4 are average and wouldn't get anywhere near citys squad. (The team you are trying to beat)
@@TimmyRipkey-zj7sgmug
For the love of God Solanke has played 2 games. Arsenal have the best defensive record in the league from last season. Realistically what are you expecting from him? Haaland type results. Give the nan some actual game time before you go writing him off as a flop.
@@TimmyRipkey-zj7sgThey might easily get near the city squad in a season or 2 depending on the outcome come of the 115🤣🤣🤣
Arsenal was Arteta's first ever job. The Arsenal board signed him knowing full well they were singing potential. Signing based on his future growth. Ange has been a manager for 30+ years. This is a stupid comparison. Any time a manager is doing poorly in the league they compare him to Arteta, forgetting that manager is an experienced manager who has managed for years and his methods are well established.
😮🎶🎶🎶 Potential 🎶🎶🎶🎶
Potential is gamble. It's betting, it's hit and hope. Stop glorifying such methods
Mate, Arteta has spent a bundle of cash, I think that has helped with him reaching his potential. 😂
Chelsea, United, spurs spent a bunch of cash too. Spurs spent well over 100m summer gone. Spending doesn't mean anything. It's buying the right players.
@@patman-bp3qghardly glorifying. Arteta apparently did well in the interview before Emry. Experience or no, any new manager is a gamble. Look at the manger market now, it's all new talent and coaches. Liverpool and Chelsea for example. That's why ETH didn't get sacked, who's out there.
The disrespect of Zara is awful 😂
He is wearing Zara T-shirt.
You could have taken any 3 players of choice out of the Arsenal starting 11 and it would still be a better team than Tottenham.
Don’t agree with that mate, if we take away your Captain, Rice and Merino we would smash you lot 😅
Facts 😅😂😅😅😅😅😂😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅
Exactly. Spurs fans going round like the result is surprising and they lost to a team they should've beat. It went the way everyone but a spurs fan expected it to go.
@@RhysChadwick hahahhahahahhaahhaah 😂
Other fans are always pointing out how Arsenal fans wanted Arteta out but it was a very small portion of the fan base that ever wanted him out and most of those people still want him out because he’s yet to win
Spurs recruitment has been shocking the last 4-5 years.
most arsenal fans could see an improvement and didn’t want arteta gone
Ange is a bum. Spurs have been bang average since that bright start to last season was done with.
As if they were not a lot worse before Ange? Conte and Mourinho were terrible.
They've been bang average for years. Not just since Ange. Spurs fans wanted attacking football they've got It. Still getting the same results, top six no trophies and still not happy. Now what they want is miracles like beating arsenal. He finished 5th by 2 points last season, won 20 games and did so without Kane. This was the same season that spurs fans were calling for him to throw the city game and celebrated losing to city like a win. Honestly spurs fans really can be pathetic at times.
@@RhysChadwick He didnt have Kane lol he went to Bayern last year before Ange got a chance toothpick brain.
@@juz882010 clearly a spelling error on my part. one I will rectify once I've posted this. my bad. Still should be obvious the point I was making and that I meant "without"
please keep that "they are in for a whooping" track because it is going to be a long season for Jaimie 🤣🤣
" ITS WHO WE ARE M8 " 😂😂😂
O'Hara you never looked like scoring mate, what are you talking about when you say " we lost cause we couldn't score"....
That was arteta's game plan to give you the ball and frustrates you, job well-done...
They kept saying the same after the Newcastle game as well after similar tactics.
It’s aright having a beautiful stadium looks great when Beyoncé is on 😂😂😂
As if Isak would go to spurs 😂😂😂😂
Spurs have been so Spursy. Thinking you should give Ange the same amount of time as Arteta got is stupid. Arteta implemented a culture that showed promise. Ange's culture is my way or the highway 😂
Raya 27, Saliba 25, Gabriel 25, Timber 40, Odegaard 32, Jorginho 12, Jesus 40..... hardly world class money, all fees paid for Under 21 Chelsea squad player levels.
Too many excuses....😂😂
Spurs paid 56m a mf they gave away.
Did he actually think they were going to win?
Right. I'd expect this kind of crisis response from losing to Southampton or Ipswich or Everton but from losing to 2nd favourites to win the league arsenal I find it baffling.
could have won it arsenal are not good as u bottlers think if they had the quality of city they would have won same way city will win against arsenal
@@amazonianstories Arsenal are good though. Their record over the last few seasons show they're good. I mean they're not city good ofcourse not but who is as good as city. No one. Because no one else has cheated as much as city have to get ahead. Very very very hard to compete with those that cheat. It's not often you here about cheaters finishing second or third.
Eze was available for 60 million, Spurs signing average/unproven players for so much money is inexcusable
Why would eze want to go spurs though terrible club
Eze is an boyhood arsenal fan and came through the arsenal academy, not sure he would be keen on spurs
What they are missing is that Liverpool or Man City spending 60m is not the same as tottenham spending 60m. Tottenham need to spend 100m to get a player Liverpool will pay 60m or 70m for.
There is a difference between backing your team and making silly statements
Leave Zara out of this
Tom Huddlestone 😂
Can’t lie cundy is 1 off my favourites on talksport he usedo annoy me 😂
John start supporting that plastic city. What a disgrace.
Would be easier if Rob Holding played at The back for Arsenal
We have this same discussion every year, until Levy is gone nothing is gonna change at this club, how long is it gonna take for fans to realise this, another 25 years?
Spurs fans are ridiculous to be honest. One year calling for a game to be thrown even at the cost of success. The next year crying for a new manager because they lost to one of the favourites to win the league.
difference between yr 1 on arteta vs yr 1 of ange = arteta won a trophy and you could see the team he was building and each yr there was progression. ange has 1 tactic and wont change, they have a major flaw in set pieces and he refuses to work to fix it..
difference = arteta got a cup and you could see him being adaptable and progressing. ange hasnt changed anythng from match 1 to right now...
THATS the issue, 1 year and hes not done anything arteta did alot. people are blind (im an arsenal fan) i hope they keep ange as its funny to watch them attack each other haha
Stop lying arsenal fans were screaming for arteta out until 2 seasons ago 😂
@@tikemyson5627 loud minority
I'm a rational Spurs fan he says and then makes up people wanted Arteta sacked and that they have improved as they weren't three nil down at half time hahah
Tired of this narrative of "everyone wanted Arteta sacked" when it's not true
Errm yes it is true! Your lot were in a melt down! Fighting amongst themselves! Short memory mate!
@@Pakitin-r7v It's true because you say so, or do you have any kind of proof?
Kids and bots on social media apps don't represent even 1% of Arsenal's fanbase.
@@QlickyDon’t you remember when they finished outside of European football for the first time in 25 years and then started the next season with 3 losses and no goals. The international break was a big factor in the saving his job. The Chelsea home match was also a job saving win that he was expected to lose but he managed to win and the rest is history. The fact is that the fans were completely behind him getting the sack after the first 3 games of 21/22 season
@@liberalslayer7220 I remember all the bad seasons Arsenal had in the last 20 years.
It was just sh** piling on and on for years. Bad recruitment, non existent selling of players for any decent fee, highly paid players putting no effort at all, bargain bin shopping etc etc.
People who expected immediate results are detached from reality and not fans. They're glory hunters and they exist to this day.
Arsenal needed a complete rebuild and a clear up. And all true Arsenal fans knew what a big challenge it was. Arsenal have had only 3 managers in the last 28 years. So this talk that Arsenal fans are hounding their managers out is not only wrong, it's factually and objectively wrong.
And no, 12 year old's and bot's opinions don't count when one talks about professional football.
@@Pakitin-r7v err no it isn't - there were plenty who didn't ask for him to be sacked
Arteta inherited the worst Arsenal side in recent memory. In mid season, when they were 10th, 7 points from 4th.
In his first summer transfer window he spent around £70m bringing Partey, Mari and Gabriel in.
He had to get rid of Ozil, Lacazzete and Auba. None of which brought any money in.
Tottenham didn't lose Kane, they sold him for 100m.
Arsenal fans who thought Arteta would improve the team drastically in his first full season are delusional at best.
So those "Arteta out" fans are really not worth listening to.
Fun fact: Arteta is the 5th quickest manager to get to 100 PL wins. He's also the youngest PL manager ever to do it.
Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp and Ferguson are the other 4.
Which is funny because he had a really rough start.
Ange has been found out by Spuds players ... it happens when a coach tells his players to use dark arts to get an opposition player sent off.
Isak isnt signing for Tottenham ffs.
"I really like him" about the manager and "He's miles off it" about players being managed by the manager I really like.
This is hilarious. Shout out to O'hara for being a good sport and Cubdy is just ruthless.
I''m in stitches with you two.... hilarious
Jamie O'Hara getting a "WHOOPING"!
Everyone wanted Tom huddlestone? 😂😂😂 no one did only spurs
O'Hara says Arsenal signs £100m players. This is not true. We sign players at the same price that Spurs spend, the fmdifference is the quality of player we are signing is better because they want to come to Arsenal. We would not sign any of the Spurs players with the exception of VDV because Spurs wage budget is so low
It will be tough for Spurs to get top 4 this season with a start like this when in addition to ManU and Chelsea wanting the 4th spot, there is Newcastle and Villa now also that are better.
Villa are better. To early to say for Chelsea, United and Newcastle. Thing is sours haven't been to bad. They've posted 2 teams they should've beat, they drew one if those but it happens. Played a 50/50 team that they unfortunately lost to and played a team that should've beat them and did.
With the high line we play, the whole point is to enable us to score more than we concede. But this has not looked the case for a while now, so something needs to change...
I thought O'Hara was happy when Spurs lose?
Adeyemi from
Dortmund would have been better and probably cheaper then Johnson
It’s the over inflated British market and premier league prices
They had to buy homegrown because so many players are not academy players
Saliba, Gabriel, ramsdale, Vieira, white, soares, martinelli, were baught during the transition phase and people were questioning Arteta and Arsenal. Just like Jamie and Spurs fans are doing with the Spurs signings. Arsenal are where they are because of the belief and strength in their convictions that was aligned from boardroom, to leadership, to players to fans.
Same thing happened at Newcastle (my team), Aston villa, Liverpool, & Brighton. And see the relative successes those teams have had.
Who were all these Arteta out people they keep going on about? Piers Morgan, doesn't count.
Jamie and Jason are like N and S pole of a magnet..one is smiling, ecstatic while another one is about to cry 😂
As a gooner, have to say, Jamie is such a good sport. Really great pundit
Solanke is decent but nowhere near the price tag. Brennan Johnson is the quality of player you’d take on a free to build some decent depth, not a marquee signing. The recruitment at Spurs for years is the main factor in them coming up short time and time again - buying decent players who would be good squad players in already established powerhouses.
Cause we only buy if they can be players with resale value. Thats why Dom instead of Toney. Hope Dom can come good but if he doesn't will anyone be surprised?
@@shanedurban If that’s the case, it remains to be a horrendous strategy. You don’t buy a 27 year old for that kind of money to sell on. He would have to bag ALOT of goals in a 24 month period for anyone to think of spending a profitable amount of money on him. Either way it’s a shite use of money and has been for many years now
@@nalcedfury Agree and to be fair he turned 27 4 days ago. Levy is awful. I know its sound trite, but he is the problem. Rather be fighting relegation than this poorest rich team nonsense.
I find it weird when people use dominating possession as a defence when Arsenal were set up to allow them all of that possession
to dare is to dooooooo. but what have you done?
"Into a project"
What project is that? Project Still Win Nothing
Project “it’s the history of Tottenham”
Cundy is a legend 🤣🤣🤣
Cundy was great during this 😂
Speaking as if Isak would even consider leaving Newcastle for Spurs
2:20 if you think you're getting anywhere near us you must be joking 😂😂
Arsenal were in 2nd gear and didnt break a sweat, easy street for us against the spuds😂
he can only sign who he can.... he wanted Sancho apparently... but Levy didnt want to foot the wage bill. Gucci made in the same chinese factories as Zara lol
Zaha would have maybe been a good signing for spurs. They need a bit of spark on the wings
😂😂😂😂 poor old Jamie everytime he opens his mouth he mugs himself off same old spurs being spursy 😂😂😂😂
Simple. Stop trying to emulate Arsenal. Almost every decision made seems to be Daniel levy showing his penis envy of Arsenal. Stadium by same architect training round built almost completely same as London Colney. Badge simplified down in same style. Built a stadium that they will never pay off to say they have a few hundred more seats but put themselves in massive debt. A long seated stated ambition by spurs is to have a tube station named after them like Arsenal. They tried to replicate the academy they tried to replicate the style of play their recruitment seems to be based around the phrase “linked with Arsenal earlier in the transfer window”
What levy has done has took Tottenham from the Stone Age, footballing wise, and put them where Arsenal were in 2006 (minus trophies) and in gigantic levels of debt. The up shot is: all that work has put spurs still fifteen years behind and modernising and stretching away Arsenal which almost makes the effort Levy has put in almost redundant.
Their hiring and firing is based on “what can we win” it’s always been “Arsenal are doing this”
It’s always been a quick fix on the footballing front. “How can we catch Arsenal?” How can we finish above Arsenal this year?”
It’s short sighted, naive and childish planning.
Arsenal don’t give a hump about what spurs do because they are not a threat.
Spurs to improve: get a plan stick to it for more than 16 months and build something. But that hasn’t happened and won’t happens because of the aforementioned Daniel levy arsenal penis envy. I mean you think a two colour shirt with different colour arms to the main body - the signature shirt style of Arsenal would be an impossibility to put to the spurs public right?😳
Onana was available for 50 mill but you chose to sign the wrong players. Recruitment is shoddy
Cundy with the subtle wind ups 😆
"We dominate possession"
Arsenal with bench players for midfield
Where was the whooping???
To play this Ange-ball you have to have a better quality of player. People can see how he wants them to play, it’s when they don’t have the ball when their play breaks down. They look vulnerable.
Tottenham is my favorite team to watch lose.
The tottenham team jamie was in would smash us now
All this talk about buying Olise, why would he join Tottenham he wanted to join a club that is going to win things, which is why he went to Bayern and not Tottenham
To dear is to do or no t in spurs case 😂
Just stupid excuses. Jamie just said Arsenal bought a 100 mil player...it is the first time in history Arsenal spend that much amount on a player nd Rice is not even Arsenal's best players.
Look what it cost to bring the likes of Gabriel, Saliba and Odegaard. Nd Saka is Arsenal academy made superstar.
Tottenham have good players...it's not because of it Arsenal is miles ahead of Spurs
“Shopping at Zara” 🤣
Odegaard was 35 mil. Maybe your manager needs too actually coach his players
35 mil for a kid from Real Madrid that they didn’t want… you got lucky 😂
@@MrProGhostedHe wasn't a kid when he came
@@sundayosita588 on loan from Madrid?
@@sundayosita588 he signed at 21 on loan from Madrid…. Kid
@@MrProGhosted Its called coaching. Arteta makes players better
Facts are this Maddison is at spurs cos no other top 6 team wanted him, if they did he wouldn’t be playing for spurs simple as that.
Cundy laughing at 6:04 lol
Still? How is this in the news still? Oh, it's not. They had they same program and said the same thing 2 days ago.
Isn’t it so obvious? Scrap the inverted FBs nonsense! Play Udogie @ Porro where they are most effective, Wingbacks! Play Sonny where he has the most opportunities to shoot, inside forward! Every decent coach will do so!!!
respectfully. no sane player worth 100m will ever entertain a move to tottenham.
What needs to change?change the club you support mate.
Cundy is the biggest loser when Chelsea lose but loves riding that high horse when it’s Jamie 😂
I can’t wait for Chelsea to lose lol
By the way Jamie none of the spurs players make arsenal starting 11 or bench
Arsenal where defensively amazing...appreciate the focus and dicipline that takes at the highest level!!!... o hara clueless
Arsenal are apparently the Harlem Globe Trotters cause they won 1-0 from a corner. Er ok..
When you dont want CL and rather loose to city end of last year, dont complain when you cant get quality players.
They weren't going to win that game anyways
@@BigTiggerP they could have if son scores past ederson
@@Dinozor3 how? They won 2-0
@@BigTiggerP but it was only 1:0 when son missed that chance. If he scored,anything could happen
@@Dinozor3 so it would've been 2:1
This clown Ohara played 4 or 5 years in Arsenals academy. What bussin' Cundys balls 😂😂
Delusion is to act like just giving a random bloke time gets you levels
Who is parking the bus
Thé stadium looks Lovely with Travis Scott on it or Burna boy 🤣🤣🤣
Man City might loose 9 points but Arsenal wouldn't?
Scarlett ohara taking a beating😂
Their attitude and mentality needs to change, Stop concerning themselves with how Arsenal are doing and worry about how THEY are doing.
Shopping at the co-op 😂😂
Go on put your players around the keeper, we all know how that would work out, to dare is to do
They were top players he mentioned. But they shined in a mid-table team.
Spurs will never be anything but.
They would be better off shopping at temu. 😂
Arteta as a manager at Arsenal came 8th in his first half a season, 8th in his first full season, and 5th in his second full season. This guy is talking sense, Spurs are only a full season in starting their 2nd season. Spurs had to clear out this season as phase 1 of the rebuild.
Artetas half season don't mean anything even though he won fa cup. Arteta improved every season. Ange getting worse
Need to stop comparing ange who’s got way more experience and has managed before compared to Arteta who’s never managed before getting the arsenal job and the standards are way higher
What a joker and a Muppet you are pal Spurs hasn't been near Arsenal since I was born and I'm a pensioner I'll be well dead before they can get anywhere near
Arteta won FA cup in the first 8 months
Ryan, we are 24 years into 5 year project. Wake up dopey
And we're arsenal arsenal fc, bye far the greatest team the world has ever seen 😳