I have in my living room a fully restored 1965 MM2670W console with the Stereo Professional turntable and Push button studio control chassis. It looks and sounds amazing and was the top of the line in 64/65. Zenith was one of the great brands back then that were well engineered.
Zenith had a beautiful showroom on Fifth or Sixth Avenue and 53rd Street. It had large glass panels exposing the entire showroom to the passing public. The IND subway station was under the building with an entrance on 53rd Street right in back of the showroom. I would go there after school and marvel at the beautiful real wood consoles and the modernistic portable record players. I went so much I got to be a 'regular'; the staff knew me and were so hospitable and friendly. We had a Zenith TV with Space Command remote control so my family were staunch Zenith fans! This video brought back so many good memories! They played demonstration albums that featured various artists including Barbra Streisand and the theme from the western movie, The Big Country! I still have those 33's to this day but nothing to play them on! Back then, America was the leading electronics manufacturer with everything being made in America!
I grew up with this and never appreciated it. Now I'm looking to buy one if I can. I remember listening over and over again to a Hard Days Night 45 on this as a kid.
Yes, that IS Mike Wallace. In 1960, Mike was still a "personality for hire" on TV and radio, pitching everything from Parliament cigarettes to Zenith's stereo phonographs on special 33rpm demonstration discs, like this one. He was also conducting a nationally syndicated weekly interview series for NTA (seen locally on WNTA-TV in New York, when it was a commercial station, now WNET). He didn't "officially" become a news reporter/anchor until he joined CBS News in the late summer of 1963.
The modernist model at the 6:16 mark...I WANT!!! Lovely. RIP Zenith, shame it had to end. They made wonderful stuff. Most of these consoles have been trashed or parted out over the years. I used to see them in thrift stores but now almost never.
Hey all; I enjoyed this video. I have the actual showroom catalog that is shown here as well as the operations manual that shows all the features of the upper end consoles with "extended bass". I own the model shown at 6:31. FAR CRY in quality to the lower end models. It has been used daily since new and has yet to need any repair and is in pristine condition. The changer is perhaps one of the best ever made. Last one sold on ebay for $375 not working.
The target consumer was Joe (and Jane) Average Listener who had a few bucks due to the good '60s economy, who wanted something better than the old mono record player. That newfangled stereo sounds good (with its exaggerated separation). And these units sold as much for the furnitiure aspects as the sound quality. These Zenith cabinets were very nice.
You can hear the thumping of the up right bass on doo wop records & rock & roll .it can be heavy to move around.now we have sliders thank god . Love these old hi fi stereos
i have the somerset console,its very classy looking. the changer was broke so i replaced it with a slightly newer zenith.the idlers on both were rock hard though. i never ran across an idler so hard,not even on really old changers?
Song 1- Third man theme. Song 2- The night they invented Champagne. Song 3- The night they invented Champagne... in Zenith Stereophonic Hi-Fi! Song 4- Smoke gets in your eyes... in Zenith Stereophonic Hi-Fi! Great video, and a like from me! I have a 1958 Admiral Stereo demonstration record featuring the "Amazing Phantom Third Channel", and Ray Conniff's "It's the Talk of the Town" with a white and red Columbia demonstration record label from 1959.
That's a great demonstration! I think on the control panel at 2:53 this is a tube-type tuner with a solid state power amplifier. The one at top may be a tube-type tuner too as it looks like there is a tuning eye. I have a Zenith console with a very similar control panel but both the tuner and amp are tube-type, but we have worked on the hybrid units for clients. You'll notice it only talks about the amplifier being solid-state.
Genius! Does anyone know the difference between MM and ML before a model number? I don't see ML on any of these in this ad for 1965, so should I assume MM is 1965 and ML another year?
@podiumman2 Hope I don't ruffle any feathers here but the Canadians were 10 years ahead of us in America. I have a 1955 Canadian made console with enormous power also non transistorized and I wish you could hear how it plays this recording. Nothing short of glorious! I have noticed playback issues with this record but everyone must take into account the age of the recording. It is from Zeniths 1960 Advertizing portfolio.
@podiumman2 Have a look at LIFE of Nov 9th, 1962 page 98 for an full-page ad for the Zenith Micro-Touch 2G It says Slide It!, Drop It!, Tilt It!, It's impossible to
@49kasey I know what a worn needle sounds like. I have been into classic audio before it was "vintage" LOL This might have been dubbed off using a good needle, but at some point, that record was played with a worn one. Once a record is played with a worn needle, it's damaged, because the needle is sharp and cuts into the vinyl. If you're playing such a damaged record with a good needle, it's sometimes difficult to tell whether what you're hearing is past damage or the current needle.
I like the music at 2:50 Also my grandfather has the same exact one like the one that had the vents that allowed you to point the sound whereever you wanted Sadly when a cleared the dust off and pluged it in, I heard a HUGE pop and the power went out Found out, transistor blew and killed tubes, resistors , speakers and etc. He said I did work great but the turntable belt broke so that's y he put it down there
Let me guess... Electrohome? They were a seriously good brand that was closer competition to The Fisher console stereo market after the advent of stereo. Never sold in the US, but I have one. Impressive unit. The US market had some incredible mono hifi consoles back in the mid 1950s that sounded wonderful. Stereo, with it's need for 2 of everything, almost threw a wrench into the works for companies that were already using multiple wooferes and tweeter arrays for mono - and biamplification.
Frankly, I like regular high fidelity. With stereo, if you're sitting close to one speaker, you could get bombarded by drums or a horn. Very annoying. I've experienced it.....
dus anyone know what the first songe they play is cadlled i have been looking but cant find it, i also love zenith's i have one from 1961 and its used every day and sounds fabulous!
I don't believe these consoles had separate tape-monitor loops to allow an equalizer to smooth out frequency-response problems with the speakers, as separate components would have permitted back then. And the changers were inferior to separate turntables.
@podiumman2 Just for the record, a worn needle sounds sharp and harsh in the highs, especially on vocal sibilants. Kind of a "chirpy" quality. Unmistakable. This was done with a good one.
Apart from the Romberg model's architecturally astute aesthetic design, the rest have the most gaudy looking cabinets that no-one with good taste would want to go anywhere near. A mark of this is that in this retro age, again, only the Romberg has an intelligent design brief. However, the electronics are probably where these systems scored in all but possibly the better offerings from Germany like Grundig.
Does anyone know who Performed that version of the third man theme? Smoke gets in your eyes - Ray Conniff The night they invented champagne - Ray Ellis and his Orchestra The Third Man theme ? I'm trying to find these 3 songs, I love listening to the video of the demo record.
I have a MCS 6791 Record changer made by Technics for J.C Penny's ..I love it The sound is great and I can change records or stack them 33 and 45 with the spindles That I have .
I like old hi-fi advertising and demo records (anyone have "This Is Dynagroove"?) The target market for the old '60s consoles was not the "hi-fi buffs", as they were known back then, who were into separate components (McIntosh, Fisher, et. al.) For one thing, you were stuck with the speakers, which were permanently attached to the cabinetry, with all the resonance and frequency -response problems that entailed. (Unless the unit had separate speaker outputs.)
My parents had a 1965 Zenith console stereo the sound was very good, that is if you were not using those god-awful satalite speakers those add on metal cylinder shaped speakers which pointed upward. very common in the 60s.
I have the model at 5:14... the 2g player is trashed ...the pot metal tone arm is worn out where the cartridge sits in the slots , so the cartridge will not sit level so it just skips all the way across the records ... unless you add about 4 more grams then it will play fine... but that kinda defeats the purpose of the 2g excellence Zenith would brag about...not much power ... single 6BQ5 outputs maybe 5 or 10 watts max...
Hi, I may be getting a early zenith console stereo this week, I think it was made between 1956 to 61, it looks like that ear cabinet, but still has a cobra magic turntable? I thought those were really early, if. Gave you the model and chasise number would you be able to tell me the year and if the model was any good.. I watch your videos all the time and I figure if anyone out there knows about this stuff it's you.., let me know
That inflated power rating went against Zenith. Magnavox, RCA and Fisher all used EIA or IHF ratings in their advertising. At least those where considered honest high fidelity ratings before 1975 when the FTC rulings came along.
In 1960, Mike was doing radio and TV commercials (especially for Parliament cigarettes), and appearing on a weekly syndicated series, "MIKE WALLACE INTERVIEWS".
I have this same console that I just bought. It needs a replacement needle- this is my first vintage record player and I have never switched out a needle before. I called around to record stores in chicago and they all told me that I had to order online, but there are too many choices! I need help picking and ordering one! Do you know what type of needle you have and can you help me find it online?? Thank you!!!!
I have heard of Stromberg Carlson, but never Romberg. Stromberg Carlson had the "Acoustical Labyrinth" speaker enclosure which was a kind of transmission line.. I had one as a kid my dad bought at an auction.
I believe the entire production of Mike and the orchestra was on a tube mixing console and tube reel to reel. It has a very special high-end sheen. Vibrant, toasty.
I have a Zenith probably from 1959 or early 60. it's good, but not as good as RCA or Magnavox. one thing it does do is play my 78 rpm records really great. they sound awesome through the Zenith but not too good on my Magnavox. maybe the needle is worn. that's why I usually only use the Magnavox for my Stereo records, and CDs
Hate to be a party poop, but either the needle's bad, or the record has been played with a bad needle. I can tell from distortion I'm hearing; I'm one of those "golden ears" you used to hear about.... Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd definitely make sure you've got a fresh needle in there. Most needles in units like this in those days only gave you about a hundred plays before becoming worn.
+Carl Rudd I guess you're right because I thought it sounded more like Myron "Mike" Wallace who started in broadcasting many years before he was ever on 60 minutes, but what do I know being a dumb democrat? LOL. Get a life.
madisonelectronic Oh please. I've worked many 84 hour weeks in my lifetime. Tecumseh Products Company, manufacturing everything from carburetors to compressors and at Kimball Office Casegoods and spent several years at Fabri-Form. I've saved up and paid for everything I own. I don't even own a cellphone because I don't like answering my home phone. I grew up farming and in my youth while most kids in town whined about mowing a tiny yard once a week I mowed ours and several neighbors when I wasn't repairing fence line, cutting, raking baling and hauling hay or out in our 1 acre garden tilling, hoeing or picking. I'm just not stupid enough to be a Republican is all. Now go get you Klan flyers and Trump hat and make America dumber.
@ShitFromShinolla I wouldn't buy any of thier cars after what happened with Toyota. That's what happens when faith for american made products go out the window for cheaper products...
I have in my living room a fully restored 1965 MM2670W console with the Stereo Professional turntable and Push button studio control chassis. It looks and sounds amazing and was the top of the line in 64/65.
Zenith was one of the great brands back then that were well engineered.
THIS was music, and THIS was great sound!!!! Excellent vid, thank u!! enjoyed very much.
Zenith had a beautiful showroom on Fifth or Sixth Avenue and 53rd Street. It had large glass panels exposing the entire showroom to the passing public. The IND subway station was under the building with an entrance on 53rd Street right in back of the showroom. I would go there after school and marvel at the beautiful real wood consoles and the modernistic portable record players. I went so much I got to be a 'regular'; the staff knew me and were so hospitable and friendly. We had a Zenith TV with Space Command remote control so my family were staunch Zenith fans! This video brought back so many good memories! They played demonstration albums that featured various artists including Barbra Streisand and the theme from the western movie, The Big Country! I still have those 33's to this day but nothing to play them on! Back then, America was the leading electronics manufacturer with everything being made in America!
I grew up with this and never appreciated it. Now I'm looking to buy one if I can. I remember listening over and over again to a Hard Days Night 45 on this as a kid.
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This is most likely the best video I have ever watched on youtube.
I love this stuff.
Thanks so much for this upload.
Travis
Simply amazing the way that Zenith technology makes music literally come to life. Such quality is sorely missed nowadays. 🎶
Yes, that IS Mike Wallace. In 1960, Mike was still a "personality for hire" on TV and radio, pitching everything from Parliament cigarettes to Zenith's stereo phonographs on special 33rpm demonstration discs, like this one. He was also conducting a nationally syndicated weekly interview series for NTA (seen locally on WNTA-TV in New York, when it was a commercial station, now WNET). He didn't "officially" become a news reporter/anchor until he joined CBS News in the late summer of 1963.
Mike Wallace was the narrator on the recording
The cabinets are wonderful...very classy. I had something similar in '72 but the cabinet was not as beautiful as these here.
My uncle had a color TV & stereo console and that floating needle mechanism was good for the records.
The modernist model at the 6:16 mark...I WANT!!! Lovely. RIP Zenith, shame it had to end. They made wonderful stuff. Most of these consoles have been trashed or parted out over the years. I used to see them in thrift stores but now almost never.
Hey all; I enjoyed this video. I have the actual showroom catalog that is shown here as well as the operations manual that shows all the features of the upper end consoles with "extended bass".
I own the model shown at 6:31. FAR CRY in quality to the lower end models.
It has been used daily since new and has yet to need any repair and is in pristine condition. The changer is perhaps one of the best ever made. Last one sold on ebay for $375 not working.
Beautiful video! Zenith made the best!
Rádios vitrolas lindas, e as músicas fantásticas. Por favor diz o nome delas, desde já agradeço! Rio Brasil
Used to have the cabinet picture in the tag image to this video.
i have a 1962 zenith record player console play records on it all the time and it sonds just like this. it has Stereophonic High Fidelity!!
The target consumer was Joe (and Jane) Average Listener who had a few bucks due to the good '60s economy, who wanted something better than the old mono record player. That newfangled stereo sounds good (with its exaggerated separation). And these units sold as much for the furnitiure aspects as the sound quality. These Zenith cabinets were very nice.
That's Mike Wallace doing the narration... Very interesting record. :) JC
Ha! I grew up with the 2670W. What a great old beast that was.
You can hear the thumping of the up right bass on doo wop records & rock & roll .it can be heavy to move around.now we have sliders thank god . Love these old hi fi stereos
i have the somerset console,its very classy looking.
the changer was broke so i replaced it with a slightly
newer zenith.the idlers on both were rock hard though.
i never ran across an idler so hard,not even on really
old changers?
@podiumman2
I recorded this off my techniques SL-220 with a good needle, problem is with the record thanks to the previous owner...
@themamagoatshow The name of the first song is "The Third Man theme". It was from a movie called "The Third Man" from 1949 if I remember correctly.
Song 1- Third man theme.
Song 2- The night they invented Champagne.
Song 3- The night they invented Champagne... in Zenith Stereophonic Hi-Fi!
Song 4- Smoke gets in your eyes... in Zenith Stereophonic Hi-Fi!
Great video, and a like from me! I have a 1958 Admiral Stereo demonstration record featuring the "Amazing Phantom Third Channel", and Ray Conniff's "It's the Talk of the Town" with a white and red Columbia demonstration record label from 1959.
Hello would you happen to know what version of the Third Man theme is in this record? I cannot seem to find it
That's a great demonstration! I think on the control panel at 2:53 this is a tube-type tuner with a solid state power amplifier. The one at top may be a tube-type tuner too as it looks like there is a tuning eye. I have a Zenith console with a very similar control panel but both the tuner and amp are tube-type, but we have worked on the hybrid units for clients. You'll notice it only talks about the amplifier being solid-state.
Genius! Does anyone know the difference between MM and ML before a model number? I don't see ML on any of these in this ad for 1965, so should I assume MM is 1965 and ML another year?
So cool! Cheers!
@podiumman2 Hope I don't ruffle any feathers here but the Canadians were 10 years ahead of us in America. I have a 1955 Canadian made console with enormous power also non transistorized and I wish you could hear how it plays this recording. Nothing short of glorious! I have noticed playback issues with this record but everyone must take into account the age of the recording. It is from Zeniths 1960 Advertizing portfolio.
Physical media has always been the best and always will be for availability and entertainment value.
@podiumman2 Have a look at LIFE of Nov 9th, 1962 page 98 for an full-page ad for the Zenith Micro-Touch 2G
It says Slide It!, Drop It!, Tilt It!, It's impossible to
@49kasey I know what a worn needle sounds like. I have been into classic audio before it was "vintage" LOL This might have been dubbed off using a good needle, but at some point, that record was played with a worn one. Once a record is played with a worn needle, it's damaged, because the needle is sharp and cuts into the vinyl. If you're playing such a damaged record with a good needle, it's sometimes difficult to tell whether what you're hearing is past damage or the current needle.
Would've been glad to have one at our house.
Mike was doing plenty of voice-over work and narration in 1960 (at the time he was conducting "THE MIKE WALLACE INTERVIEW" in syndication).
I like the music at 2:50
Also my grandfather has the same exact one like the one that had the vents that allowed you to point the sound whereever you wanted
Sadly when a cleared the dust off and pluged it in, I heard a HUGE pop and the power went out
Found out, transistor blew and killed tubes, resistors , speakers and etc. He said I did work great but the turntable belt broke so that's y he put it down there
Let me guess... Electrohome? They were a seriously good brand that was closer competition to The Fisher console stereo market after the advent of stereo. Never sold in the US, but I have one. Impressive unit.
The US market had some incredible mono hifi consoles back in the mid 1950s that sounded wonderful. Stereo, with it's need for 2 of everything, almost threw a wrench into the works for companies that were already using multiple wooferes and tweeter arrays for mono - and biamplification.
Frankly, I like regular high fidelity. With stereo, if you're sitting close to one speaker, you could get bombarded by drums or a horn. Very annoying. I've
experienced it.....
dus anyone know what the first songe they play is cadlled i have been looking but cant find it, i also love zenith's i have one from 1961 and its used every day and sounds fabulous!
I don't believe these consoles had separate tape-monitor loops to allow an equalizer to smooth out frequency-response problems with the speakers, as separate components would have permitted back then. And the changers were inferior to separate turntables.
Just picked up a very nice 1962 zenith. Model mk2685, looked a little like the last one in the video here I think that was a 2685?
Awesome vid. Thanks.
Дуже цікаво , такий агрегат бачу вперше і музика класна !!!
@podiumman2 Just for the record, a worn needle sounds sharp and harsh in the highs, especially on vocal sibilants. Kind of a "chirpy" quality. Unmistakable. This was done with a good one.
If you can put a little brake fluid on the old idlers and that will soften them up
Apart from the Romberg model's architecturally astute aesthetic design, the rest have the most gaudy looking cabinets that no-one with good taste would want to go anywhere near. A mark of this is that in this retro age, again, only the Romberg has an intelligent design brief. However, the electronics are probably where these systems scored in all but possibly the better offerings from Germany like Grundig.
Does anyone know who Performed that version of the third man theme? Smoke gets in your eyes - Ray Conniff
The night they invented champagne - Ray Ellis and his Orchestra
The Third Man theme ?
I'm trying to find these 3 songs, I love listening to the video of the demo record.
The biggest hit of Smoke Gets In your Eyes was with the Platters!
Were you able to find out who that was? I would like to know too!
How thrilling.
That's nice buddy!
I have this record as well, kind of hard to find
beautiful piece of furniture expensive at the time
I have a MCS 6791 Record changer made by Technics for J.C Penny's ..I love it The sound is great and I can change records or stack them 33 and 45 with the spindles That I have .
Yea it's Mike Wallace . great looking cabinet
I like old hi-fi advertising and demo records (anyone have "This Is Dynagroove"?)
The target market for the old '60s consoles was not the "hi-fi buffs", as they were known back then, who were into separate components (McIntosh, Fisher, et. al.) For one thing, you were stuck with the speakers, which were permanently attached to the cabinetry, with all the resonance and frequency -response problems that entailed. (Unless the unit had separate speaker outputs.)
@BadEditPro Funny, I recognized his voice before I saw your post!
Nice nostalgic posting. Thanks! The voice sounds very much like Mike Wallace. Is it?
yes
Ohhh yeahh!! is beautiful! 1:30 pm
Maravilhosa canção. Do filme western.? Parabéns belissimo.
podiumman2,
YOU ARE A PARTY POOP.
That was awesome...You did a great job.....
My parents had a 1965 Zenith console stereo the sound was very good, that is if you were not using those god-awful satalite speakers those add on metal cylinder shaped speakers which pointed upward. very common in the 60s.
Olá. Tentei de todas as formas encontrar o nome dessas músicas na internet mas não obtive sucesso! Rio de Janeiro RJ Brazil
Is that Peter Jennings?
I have the model at 5:14... the 2g player is trashed ...the pot metal tone arm is worn out where the cartridge sits in the slots , so the cartridge will not sit level so it just skips all the way across the records ... unless you add about 4 more grams then it will play fine... but that kinda defeats the purpose of the 2g excellence Zenith would brag about...not much power ... single 6BQ5 outputs maybe 5 or 10 watts max...
Hi, I may be getting a early zenith console stereo this week, I think it was made between 1956 to 61, it looks like that ear cabinet, but still has a cobra magic turntable? I thought those were really early, if. Gave you the model and chasise number would you be able to tell me the year and if the model was any good.. I watch your videos all the time and I figure if anyone out there knows about this stuff it's you.., let me know
i am lisning to this on my 1947 magnavox lol
That inflated power rating went against Zenith. Magnavox, RCA and Fisher all used EIA or IHF ratings in their advertising. At least those where considered honest high fidelity ratings before 1975 when the FTC rulings came along.
wish I could find a 1964 model sales catalog, would like to know what the model name of mine is...
bones007able hey I might have it. I have a zenith from the sixties. I cod copy and send if its the same player.
Great
This is awesome. I like 2420W, 2420, 2601W, 2604-4W, 2608, 2670W, and 2606-4W is not bad also.
It's Mike Wallace, later with "60 Minutes," narrating.
In 1960, Mike was doing radio and TV commercials (especially for Parliament cigarettes), and appearing on a weekly syndicated series, "MIKE WALLACE INTERVIEWS".
I have this same console that I just bought. It needs a replacement needle- this is my first vintage record player and I have never switched out a needle before. I called around to record stores in chicago and they all told me that I had to order online, but there are too many choices! I need help picking and ordering one! Do you know what type of needle you have and can you help me find it online??
Thank you!!!!
The narator sounds like Mike Wallace of sixty minutes fame.
Does anyone know the artist on the Third man theme (first song?)
Artist? No, but I'll bet it's the Percy Faith Orchestra. Side bet would be Ray Conniff Orchestra.
Zither player in the movie was Anton Karas.
My neighbor gave me the Romberg Model. Its in mint condition, but is it worth anything?
I have heard of Stromberg Carlson, but never Romberg. Stromberg Carlson had the "Acoustical Labyrinth" speaker enclosure which was a kind of transmission line.. I had one as a kid my dad bought at an auction.
3d sound cool
We just received one of these gems for our church rummage sale. It's in perfect condition. Anyone interested?
Hi Laura, I am interested; do you still have it available?
+Brett Hage Somewhere around here I think I have the inside components to the Somerset model.
Does it have electronic tubes...?
I believe the entire production of Mike and the orchestra was on a tube mixing console and tube reel to reel. It has a very special high-end sheen. Vibrant, toasty.
Modern music system are useless. these are evergreen
I have a Zenith probably from 1959 or early 60. it's good, but not as good as RCA or Magnavox. one thing it does do is play my 78 rpm records really great. they sound awesome through the Zenith but not too good on my Magnavox. maybe the needle is worn. that's why I usually only use the Magnavox for my Stereo records, and CDs
@drh4683 it was probably just played over and over again because Ray Conniff is so wonderful. I have that same record 'S Awful Nice I think *not sure*
no it's the late great Mike Wallace not Dan Rather rip Mike
240 watts peak.. 120 EIA.. LOL.. that was the equivalent of 20 watts RMS. Oh, the ratings game before the 1972 ruling that standardized power ratings.
20W RMS into super efficient woofers and tweeters. These things bumped.
The voice over sounds like Dan Rather of CBS news...
@ShitFromShinolla Sad But True!!!!!
The tube ones generally sound better but it's not like a McIntosh driving Altec 604s or anything.
This is why I don't care for vinyl, like listening to a bowl of Rice Krispies.
Zenith always makes excellent products. Until now though because they moved to China just like everything else.
@rivest266 Impossible to what??
Hate to be a party poop, but either the needle's bad, or the record has been played with a bad needle. I can tell from distortion I'm hearing; I'm one of those "golden ears" you used to hear about....
Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd definitely make sure you've got a fresh needle in there. Most needles in units like this in those days only gave you about a hundred plays before becoming worn.
Mono was boring. Stereo brought music to life. Time for Nutcracker to play.
@rivest266 -- damage your records.
That's a fabulous sound. And narration by Chris Wallace is fun too. Oh, that's right, all you obumma supporters wouldn't know who that is. LOL
+Carl Rudd I guess you're right because I thought it sounded more like Myron "Mike" Wallace who started in broadcasting many years before he was ever on 60 minutes, but what do I know being a dumb democrat? LOL. Get a life.
+Rebel9668 If your welfare check is late just call the office token white guy on your free cell phone.
madisonelectronic Oh please. I've worked many 84 hour weeks in my lifetime. Tecumseh Products Company, manufacturing everything from carburetors to compressors and at Kimball Office Casegoods and spent several years at Fabri-Form. I've saved up and paid for everything I own. I don't even own a cellphone because I don't like answering my home phone. I grew up farming and in my youth while most kids in town whined about mowing a tiny yard once a week I mowed ours and several neighbors when I wasn't repairing fence line, cutting, raking baling and hauling hay or out in our 1 acre garden tilling, hoeing or picking. I'm just not stupid enough to be a Republican is all. Now go get you Klan flyers and Trump hat and make America dumber.
Rebel9668
Yes, and I will bet you had to walk 10 miles to go to the outhouse.
Nope, only about a quarter mile to my Amish neighbor's house. :) Of course, I preferred our own indoor plumbing, but an outhouse will do in a pinch.
@ShitFromShinolla I wouldn't buy any of thier cars after what happened
with Toyota. That's what happens when faith for american made products go out the
window for cheaper products...