That pulsing residual water leaking out often happens after shutting off the main water, even after draining for a while, because the pipes between that sink stem and the rest of the house still have water in them, and when you move that pipe, you make little waves that flow back and forth, which leaks out like we see here. The solution is, when draining water for work like this, open the lowest point outflow and the farthest point outflow. In my house, this means opening the patio spigot outside. I catch this water in a bucket and throw it on my shrubs/trees/etc. If you're not sure which is the lowest/farthest outflow, open them all. This drains much faster as well. Pro tip: be sure to turn off icemakers, tankless water heaters, and anything that has its own pump that turns on automatically. (Hot tubs, water filters, aquarium inflow, etc). If these turn on while the water is turned off, they can burn out their pumps and require expensive repairs.
What do you do when the pipe is too short and there is no room for the olive to be exposed and pulled out? Is there a reason not to keep the original nut and olive on there provided it fits the new replacement valve?
Thank you for taking the time to make this excellent video. Regarding the tightening of the nut between the angle stop valve and the copper line. Should that be a half or three fourths turn after the nut is hand snug tight.
Mine is the same. I took my valve off to replace and it was still leaking and some water splashed up to towards the outlet. I'm not sure any got on it but... The breaker is off but still not a good place for a plug.
@@sarahdickinson9523 Sometimes , we gotta work with what we got in tight spaces. I installed a GFCI outlet under my sink, so the second any water touches the metal inside, it shuts itself off. (These are often required by code if the outlet is within 2ft of a water outflow or valve.) Also, its easy to throw some tape on the prong holes (duct tape, painters tape, etc) to prevent any accidental water sprays getting in there when you work on stuff like this. Happy DIYing!
So its ok to not use a ferrel when installing a compression fitting? Did you forget to or did that pipe dope replace the ferrel? The pipe dope seals just as good as the ferrell?
I have a question, when you replace the hot water valve , do you shut off the whole house water , and do anything with the water heater ? What the procedure?
I am getting ready to do it tomorrow for bathroom sink hot water valve. I'm on one floor w gas heater and only a knob for cold water coming into tank, not going out. Now I'm told not to drain tank but shut off cold water going to tank and the house water thats next to my meter. Then open hot water lines everywhere cause I'm to dumb to know which is close and far, that this should take the pressure off and water out of hot lines. Once there is no hot water coming out and it shouldn't have been 50 gallons from the water heater, I can turn on hot water in sink and nothing flow but water still be in tank. Then I can replace the hit water valve with a shark bite which I thought would be easier, though after watching videos using the compression kind is just as easy. Now I'm doing this tomorrow 7 Jan 24 depending that my house doesn't flood or new gas hot water heater drain out and burn the elements with no water in it. I wasn't told to cut off the gas to pilot or anything like that, just turn off house water near meter and cold water going to tank then run water to drain pipes. It sounds simple, I only pray it works. Good luck with your project.
One video said better to under tighten then check for leaks vs going right to King Kong tightening. You can always tighten it more if a drop forms but I'm sure you do a great job.
i attempted to replace the shut off valves but the hot water side the water doesn’t stop even after 20 minutes of draining with the main water line turned off. do i also need to turn off the hot water tank line too? thank you for your help.
With a normal hot water tank, f you only shut off the water main, you have stopped the water coming into the tank but not the outflow, so opening a valve down the line will result in draining the entire tank, which might take an hour and wastes a ton of water & the energy used to heat that water. So, when working hot water lines, you need to shut off the outflow valve from your water heater. If its a tankless heater, its a good idea to shut the whole thing off (as in power down).
Ill be honest, whos bright idea was it to put an outlet next to a water valve? recently my water valve next to my toilet valve shot out and water was shooting out like crazy. If I have an outlet there was would of had been screwed. I really want to know what person put it there.
So. I have a few tools.... I see there you have the saw utilized, and another thing that just plain cut and shortened the pipe for good installing..and of course the mesh. Is it a specific kind of mesh and can I ask what tool you used to shorten the pipe? Thanks man. I'm hoping to install new faucet which also needs a new end valve... Ty
@@hectorworksout, nice tutorial but you’d be surprised! I appreciate that you take the time and effort to do very clean professional installations. Thank you.
@@mybrotherkeeper1484 that copper ring is called a compression ring. I learned this from further research. I ended up removing my 3 multiturn water valves and replaced them all with quarter turn valves. I didn’t cut the old pipe nor remove the compression rings on any of them. I just cleaned them up really nice with a sandpaper (220 grain) that was made for wood because that’s all I had around the house. My repairs were completed 11 days ago and there are no leaks so far so I think it went alright. Time will tell. Hope this helps someone out!
@@Sky-wakka I get it. I was nervous before too but it was pretty straightforward. Let me know if u have question and I’ll let u know my DIYer opinion :)
I try to do everything myself if I can. This seems like a doable job with the right tools and patience. I have this exact valve shown in this video. I need to replace both cold and hot. My only concern is how tight it needs to be sealed at the end. Looks like he just winged it in this video. Which is understandable as he’s probably a professional. But for me, the average diy’er, I have no clue. And once you pop that old valve off, there’s no going back. Lol Then it’s pray to God a real plumber can save my ass before the family needs water. 😄 I’m so tempted to do this. I have a plumber scheduled for something unrelated. Might try my luck and if it doesn’t work out, plumber can fix my mistake.
And watching videos such as this is the EXACT reason why I rely on the two sole items in my toolbox. A credit card and a phone. This looks like WAY too much work!
The compression ferrule is what seals it. But I have replaced this on a toilet where it leaked. The PTFE tape wouldn't stop it. The only thing that worked was the pipe dope. Been 3 months and still not a drop. Re-watching these videos because I have the same job to do under my sink for my newly installed dishwasher. I realized that the shutoff value is needs to be replaced.
That pulsing residual water leaking out often happens after shutting off the main water, even after draining for a while, because the pipes between that sink stem and the rest of the house still have water in them, and when you move that pipe, you make little waves that flow back and forth, which leaks out like we see here.
The solution is, when draining water for work like this, open the lowest point outflow and the farthest point outflow. In my house, this means opening the patio spigot outside. I catch this water in a bucket and throw it on my shrubs/trees/etc.
If you're not sure which is the lowest/farthest outflow, open them all. This drains much faster as well.
Pro tip: be sure to turn off icemakers, tankless water heaters, and anything that has its own pump that turns on automatically. (Hot tubs, water filters, aquarium inflow, etc). If these turn on while the water is turned off, they can burn out their pumps and require expensive repairs.
Great advice, thank you!!
Do you have to cut the copper pipe? Isn’t sanding it with mesh good enough?
Golden advice youtube so good for this
Bro thank you- this helped tremendously and now I’m motivated to actually finish the sink install
You make it look easy. Four hour later I am finally able to get the old one off.
Looks like a compression sleeve puller would have come in handy on this job.
What do you do when the pipe is too short and there is no room for the olive to be exposed and pulled out? Is there a reason not to keep the original nut and olive on there provided it fits the new replacement valve?
@@Russell-rc6qqI would recommend not to use any fruits in the plumbing sustem.
Thank you for taking the time to make this excellent video. Regarding the tightening of the nut between the angle stop valve and the copper line. Should that be a half or three fourths turn after the nut is hand snug tight.
Thanks Hector... I needed a refresher for confidence.
you’re a pro Forsure!
You did not put a compression fitting, olive, on the new shut-off valve.
Probably not the best placement for an outlet
Mine is the same. I took my valve off to replace and it was still leaking and some water splashed up to towards the outlet. I'm not sure any got on it but... The breaker is off but still not a good place for a plug.
@@sarahdickinson9523 Sometimes , we gotta work with what we got in tight spaces. I installed a GFCI outlet under my sink, so the second any water touches the metal inside, it shuts itself off. (These are often required by code if the outlet is within 2ft of a water outflow or valve.)
Also, its easy to throw some tape on the prong holes (duct tape, painters tape, etc) to prevent any accidental water sprays getting in there when you work on stuff like this.
Happy DIYing!
The outlet is for the disposal
In a kitchen, there will always be an electric outlet under the sink but it’s placed higher than the clean water pipe valves.
@@AndreaMartinez-fg6qsand or the dish washer
So its ok to not use a ferrel when installing a compression fitting? Did you forget to or did that pipe dope replace the ferrel? The pipe dope seals just as good as the ferrell?
I got the same shutoff valve but I don't know how to take it out,thank you for this video.
Always nice to be able to wash off your electrical outlet from time to time. Oh my...
I'm pretty sure that for a garbage disposal, where else should it be? I'm just curious.
Did you need to shut off the main prior to this? Thanks
Thank you for effective instructions
Damn white wall reflected the flash sir, hope you enjoyed the video!
Hector Tamayo 4 Turns???
No leaks and that is the proper way of tightening up a shut off valve. Thank you.
Why did you tighten that so much?
Because he is an amateur, not an expert, using wrong tools.
Do we have to shut off the main water supply before starting the job?
yes
I have a question, when you replace the hot water valve , do you shut off the whole house water , and do anything with the water heater ? What the procedure?
I am getting ready to do it tomorrow for bathroom sink hot water valve. I'm on one floor w gas heater and only a knob for cold water coming into tank, not going out. Now I'm told not to drain tank but shut off cold water going to tank and the house water thats next to my meter. Then open hot water lines everywhere cause I'm to dumb to know which is close and far, that this should take the pressure off and water out of hot lines. Once there is no hot water coming out and it shouldn't have been 50 gallons from the water heater, I can turn on hot water in sink and nothing flow but water still be in tank. Then I can replace the hit water valve with a shark bite which I thought would be easier, though after watching videos using the compression kind is just as easy. Now I'm doing this tomorrow 7 Jan 24 depending that my house doesn't flood or new gas hot water heater drain out and burn the elements with no water in it. I wasn't told to cut off the gas to pilot or anything like that, just turn off house water near meter and cold water going to tank then run water to drain pipes. It sounds simple, I only pray it works. Good luck with your project.
One video said better to under tighten then check for leaks vs going right to King Kong tightening. You can always tighten it more if a drop forms but I'm sure you do a great job.
He king kong that shit no love 😂
The copper pipe is so short now, it can’t ever but cut again, was that a wise move? Is cutting necessary?
You need a special sleeve tool to pull it out.
That outlet legit gives off a threatening aura. 😅😂
Very helpful! Thanks!!!!
i attempted to replace the shut off valves but the hot water side the water doesn’t stop even after 20 minutes of draining with the main water line turned off. do i also need to turn off the hot water tank line too? thank you for your help.
With a normal hot water tank, f you only shut off the water main, you have stopped the water coming into the tank but not the outflow, so opening a valve down the line will result in draining the entire tank, which might take an hour and wastes a ton of water & the energy used to heat that water.
So, when working hot water lines, you need to shut off the outflow valve from your water heater. If its a tankless heater, its a good idea to shut the whole thing off (as in power down).
@@jephbennett oh... thank you for the info. Good to know!
@@jephbennett you’re saying shut off the hot water outlet on the tank? The pipe coming out of the heater with the red knob?
The outlet is for the dishwasher?
What if you have a copper line to thesink and the faucet is good. Any way to connect the copper? Instead of a flex line.
Ill be honest, whos bright idea was it to put an outlet next to a water valve?
recently my water valve next to my toilet valve shot out and water was shooting out like crazy. If I have an outlet there was would of had been screwed.
I really want to know what person put it there.
There's one under my sink too for garage disposal, but it is a terrible spot
Try Farrel puller.......
Can't re-use that compression fitting?
So. I have a few tools.... I see there you have the saw utilized, and another thing that just plain cut and shortened the pipe for good installing..and of course the mesh. Is it a specific kind of mesh and can I ask what tool you used to shorten the pipe? Thanks man. I'm hoping to install new faucet which also needs a new end valve... Ty
You can go to the plumbing section at Home Depot
Buy a copper pipe cutter
And they should have sand paper specifically for cleaning pipe
@@hectorworksout thank you, I'm screen shotting this, I sure do appreciate. 👍👌
You didn't mention turning off the water to the house first!
I was hoping my viewers have common sense
Oh you mean I am to shut the water off first. Oh ok. See I didn't know that..
@@hectorworksout, nice tutorial but you’d be surprised! I appreciate that you take the time and effort to do very clean professional installations. Thank you.
At 7:29. How does the spigot get tight? Don’t you need to put on a ring like u took off at 2:53? If not, can you explain?
I wondered the same thing. I wonder if that little copper ring was inside the nut, and we didn’t see it when he put it on.
@@mybrotherkeeper1484 that copper ring is called a compression ring. I learned this from further research.
I ended up removing my 3 multiturn water valves and replaced them all with quarter turn valves. I didn’t cut the old pipe nor remove the compression rings on any of them. I just cleaned them up really nice with a sandpaper (220 grain) that was made for wood because that’s all I had around the house. My repairs were completed 11 days ago and there are no leaks so far so I think it went alright. Time will tell.
Hope this helps someone out!
@@mattt879 Thanks! I have one of these leaking and I'm a little scared to try this myself lol
@@Sky-wakka I get it. I was nervous before too but it was pretty straightforward. Let me know if u have question and I’ll let u know my DIYer opinion :)
Your research saved me alot of aggravation, thank you so much!
Mine is too hard. I could not remove it😢
the little ring thing you cut off with hack saw, you didn't have to put a new one back on in it's place?
He forgot to put a new one
For $20 you can buy a puller that’ll make that removal a lot easier.
whats the name of that tool, kind sir?
@sundance kidd compression sleeve puller. Type that in on the home depot app.
I try to do everything myself if I can. This seems like a doable job with the right tools and patience. I have this exact valve shown in this video. I need to replace both cold and hot. My only concern is how tight it needs to be sealed at the end. Looks like he just winged it in this video. Which is understandable as he’s probably a professional. But for me, the average diy’er, I have no clue. And once you pop that old valve off, there’s no going back. Lol Then it’s pray to God a real plumber can save my ass before the family needs water. 😄 I’m so tempted to do this. I have a plumber scheduled for something unrelated. Might try my luck and if it doesn’t work out, plumber can fix my mistake.
Butter 🧈 Butter 🧈
Nice
Thanks Hector
What is the size of shutoff valve ?
Dremel tool cut off wheel is best
Never heard of a ferrel puller?.
Go get a compression sleeve puller...
I got one
This video was when I was a newbie lol
there is a nut and ring removal tool... which I guess you didn't have
Your electrician is funny
Esta mui vien pero es mejor un extractor para esa clase de travajo.
Could’ve used old compression nut??
The outlet is for the garbage disposal
u shouldn't cut that 1/2 inch of copper......
Sorry
Get a pull-off tool.
I have one just didn’t use it!
Piece of cake right? I have to do this.... I was hoping for no ferelle.
This was not an efficient way to do this!
Removing the valve from copper pipe. Easy. Try removing it from plastic PVC pipe. Still trying to figure that out.
Cut pipe from behind the compression ring, then use a push fit valve or a compression valve whichever you prefer.
Not to be funny, he’s gonna learn a real hard listen, about electricity wouldn’t let that close with all that water🤷🏾♂️
Why is there an electrical outlet by this.
Um…I think I can twist a bolt. May want to start with how to turn off the water first. Ain’t. Nobody got time for this.
Under the sink…Not the most comfortable place to work
What the hell is this???
😅🤣😁😄😃😀
How not to replace a water shut off valve under the sink
And watching videos such as this is the EXACT reason why I rely on the two sole items in my toolbox. A credit card and a phone. This looks like WAY too much work!
Riveting!
The pipe dope literally does nothing. It seals by compression on the ferrule
He didn't replace the ferrule he cut off
The compression ferrule is what seals it. But I have replaced this on a toilet where it leaked. The PTFE tape wouldn't stop it. The only thing that worked was the pipe dope. Been 3 months and still not a drop. Re-watching these videos because I have the same job to do under my sink for my newly installed dishwasher. I realized that the shutoff value is needs to be replaced.
@@brianc9036 if the ferrule is leaking it means that it was over tightened. I’m a plumber and have been for 19 years now.
@@otisbigsby I thought it was because I used the Ferrell remover and didn't cut the pipe.
@@brianc9036 I use a compression remover as well. Never have issues.