Thailand’s $28BN Canal Across Itself Proposal
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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Thai has proposed constructing a 128 kilometer long canal across the Thai isthmus, bypassing the Malacca strait. The project, which would be 450 meters wide and 25 meters deep, would cost around 28 billion dollars and take 10 years to construct. It would save 1,200 kilometers in travel distance, reducing fuel costs and C0₂ emissions. It would also invigorate Thailand’s economy and allow Chinese vessels to avoid the US military presence near Singapore. However, its excavation would displace thousands of people and harm the natural ecosystem. It would also divide Thailand, allowing Muslim insurgents in the south to expand their movement. Furthermore, it would create tension with Thailand’s regional neighbors and would need highly advanced logistics to compete with Singapore. Lastly, it would put Thailand into debt and the center of a global geopolitical rivalry between China, the US and India. Due to all these issues, the Thai canal has faced serious resistance. Despite this, the Thai government still wants to connect the two oceans and in November 2023, they announced a $36BN land bridge across the isthmus, that would include highways, railways and pipelines. Whether this or the original Thai canal will ever be built, we will just have to wait and see.
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Video Chapters
0:00-2:40 Context
2:40-4:20 Thai Canal
4:20-7:56 Benefits/Drawbacks
7:56-10:47 The Land Bridge - Розваги
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Where are you getting sources? There is no way the new canal would be big enough for all, or even most traffic away from the malacca strait.
Also “china solving the problem of choke point” by creating another choke point with a US ally, is a bit silly statement to make.
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sea level canal is a great idea. don't make it 450m wide and 25m deep, make it narrower and shallower for initial stage. once openned, then they can generator revenue, and with that money, keep expanding the canal.
This Thai Canal is a great project which will reduce sea travel from Malacca waterways to the Sea of Thailand and Cambodia and vice versa. Continue the Thai Canal.
Even with the canal being constructed, China would not remove all the chokepoints on its shipping routes. At the entrance to the Andaman Sea is the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, which are Indian territories. So even with the canal being constructed, in times of conflict, China's shipping can still be disrupted by an Indian naval presence.
Indian naval presence is a non threat
China already have naval bases in Djibouti Myanmar Pakistan......
And Chinese navy is way more stronger than Indian navy
Not as threatening as the war crazed country from many thousands of miles away.
India is not US puppet as Europe.
@@AnnieT369 Which, ironically, the country that is going to make a canal/land bridge across, is a treaty ally of. So if the US goes to war, Thailand is almost required to follow. Since, you know, signed treaty.
Don't worry... Thailand, China 🇨🇳 will help you all the way!! When finished ✅️.... Thai canal will look absolutely amazing 👍👍👌💫
Great video!
Much better balanced video than usual, keep going.
Think of it. Freight must be unloaded, transported by trains, and loaded back to the ships? What is the cost compared with direct sailing through Malacca straits and SCS? I have never seen a cost estimate. If it is not cheaper, why would shipping companies want to do it?
USA block
I think a railway direct through China-Laos-Thailand-Malaysia is more feasible and sustainable if China seeks to bypass the US blockade in Singapore.
@@imaknaktamales Hahahaha
china only benefited on it not malaysia
Stupid idea to build land bridge
All these people saying "Uhm, actually, they're building a land bridge and not a canal" shows how many people don't watch the video until the end before commenting
Land bridge is phase 1. Canal is phase 2.
I mean a canal is even easier to blockade/disrupt than a strait
Hear me out, three canals
@@abcdfgh4321 Even if you put 10 canals, it is only 450 meters in diameter. Do you understand math?
sounds like a nice project, go for it!
Thailand will greatly benefit from this 🎉
hard to say, this canal need to pay + malacca straits is free + distance save is actually minimums+ need a lot budget.
China help to build cannal , remember the nicaragua cannal that china "invest and help to build "? End up? That cannal is actually more beneficial compare to this but end up china run aways half way
Not if Communist China is part of building and lending money.
it well not allow by the singapore
AND THE ENVIRONMENT WILL DEGRADE
Singapore's economy will certainly dip because of this
They're not building a canal. It's a "land bridge", two ports connected by freight rail.
Watch until the end of the video before commenting please
Just build a MASSIVE railway and move entire ships over land
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The land bridge is far more feasible
Unload all the ships cargo on one side onto trains and trucks... drive the cargo across the peninsula on a "land bridge"... reload it on to different ships on the other side... "more feasible" 😆
Even if it were a container ship some of which can hold in excess of 20,000 containers, what about iron,coal,fertiliser etc etc and oil it surely would be far to laborious !
A canal, like the Grand Canal is best. Too much trouble to unload ship, load on trucks, transport to the eastern port, unload and load again.
your header sugests they wanna build a canal, but that is NOT.
They want to use 2 ports, deload and rail transfer to other and reload.
That is the main reason it must be done very WELL or the benefit in time is too low to be profitable.
Mean deload and direct on rail cargo, and each whatever 20 to 50 container the train MUST go, then they might be able to save time for shipping around Singapore
PLUS maybe a rearranging of several ships load on the other side,
PLUS a very good rail track to Bangkok could also save costs for internal transport also.
So they have to do it BIG on harbouer = several ships, rail, 2 lanes and cargo not standing around = might be good.
May this canal project be a success.
The 62 kms proposed Thai Canal is better alternative than the landbrigde which is 125 kms also cheaper in cost.
Bypass the choke point by…creating another check point with another US ally.
Yup, some people just don't get it lol. In fact, Singapore is officially "neutral" leaning towards the US. Thailand on the other hand is 100% a US treaty ally, so it's even worse.
if this canal successfull, it take maybe 10 year to build, it just can,t carry 20 ship a day, is not effect singapore port, it just only 6% of total shipment. from world economy gdp in 10 year increase more than 6%.
As Thai, it should build long time ago. so it will never happend due to many drawback reasons as the clip explained.
If they were able to construct the 1,800 km Grand Canal (China), the proposed Kra canal, which is only about 800 km long, could be built.😊
Doubt USA or China would fight over canal as either party could easily block canal with mines, cruise missiles, you name it weapons system. Interesting concept.
PS - If China wants oil, Russia would be the obvious choice.
Actually, the Thais abandoned the Kra canal proposal but instead they want to built two ports on each side with a land or rail bridge. That entails unloading all the cargoes on the western side into a train or trucks, travel 128 km, unload all the cargoes into the ships waiting on the eastern side. Any delays will negate all the savings of time and cost sailing through the Malacca straits.
Yes, everything you've said is basically what the last section of the video is about
I think the benefit is minimum compared to Panama or suez Canal. Will only add more liability for the government budget, with so little to gain in the future.
I mean if it’s actually used it would make billions and billions a year.
@@AL-lh2htu think it make sense to offload cargo and transport them across the land then upload to another ship? How much time u think will save the shipowners?
I mean if we can make china pay for it why not it's almost free stuff 🤣🤣🤣
@@Raven675 China should invest in tourism industry instead. I think southern thailand is beautiful. and can create a new economic hub on the border of malaysia
@@EA_SET As long as we took advantage of the Chinese and don't become their puppets I be glad if our government can do that, but you know it's corrupt so I don't really have high hopes, who knows their might be hired by them now, money is delicious after all.
Great animation
I died when he said "yayutthaya"
That’s what I’ve been saying this is import because western US can open trad with India, however they have to build a Canal in Nicaragua because Panama Canal is running out of water
Nothing can stop China to build a great CANAL at Thailand to provide the most economical shipping route for all shipping companies.
It would take decades for any greenhouse savings to be realized, given how much will be created in the construction process.
They must go with canal that is far more better as it is going to reduce traffic at malaka.... Plus to counter american and indian hegemony as well...
And in my opinion the 2nd point is more valid... It's in the interest of kingdom and prc... And they should go for it...
To reduce traffic, ships are already using the Sunda and Lombok straits in Indonesia, there is no need for Kra.
@@danielc2701 need to militarise Coco & Christmas islands of Australia
@@sagard.yenchilwar1379 Which is ironically more reasonable for China than building a one lane waterway right through America's ally. Most people forget that Thailand is a signed treaty ally of America.
Go for it Thailand !!!! ASEAN won't stop you !!!! Remember Taylor Swift ERAS concert ????
A quick look at a topographical map of the area tells me this is never going to happen.
A quick look at shipping numbers through canals also tells me this is never going to happen.
there is a theory that certain quarters in the mainland are not too happy that Spore does not come under their influence, as such, the Krak Canal Project is a means of teaching the island nation a lesson...
No issues for southern Thailand , just talk for centuries, Bridges?
If canal at sea level is the best , investment cost , all can be partners in this project
good project for thailand real next leval
I'll go with the land bridge.
I think the Secret Key for this to become Reality is Geopolitics.
-First, the most important is the Catalyst Spark that would initiate the Start of Geopolitical Realignment of the Countries in the Region. The most probable ones is when Malaysia become a Rogue State, either it become an Full-blown Islamic State or/the Ascendance of a Radical Extremist Leadership that would come from an uprising of Political Islam in the country.
-Second, the Leadership will try to threaten Israel Ships from passing in the Malacca Strait. Henceforth, having a to limit Israel from it’s Allies in the Region and beyond, like Singapore, the Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Thailand. We can also include Vietnam and Taiwan which is already getting closer with Israel being facilitated by US and key allies/partners in the region.
-While on Thailand’s side, will be Strategically Coerced by China to accept the building of the Kra Canal thru Blackmailing it by using it’s Vassal States surrounding Thailand(Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia)to caused Problems and Issues for Thailand that can only be mediated by China, as long it accepts the canal Project while trying to portray itself as Neutral despite it being a US Treaty Ally. (FYI, China is already doing this Dirty Tactics, like screwing Vietnam using Cambodia as front, example is funding/building of Military Naval Base facing the Gulf of Thailand, and also a Canal Project that will link Mekong River(in Cambodian side) into Cambodia’s Coast facing Gulf of Thailand, that will altogether bypassed the Mekong Delta in Southern Vietnam)
-Back into Malaysia, the Anti-Israel Policy is at full swing and will be expanded to include those countries supporting Israel, becoming a full-blown Anti-Westerner and their Allies.
Because of these, Singapore would be under Threat by Malaysia, in terms of National Security like Territorial, Economic, Food/Water/Energy Resources, and many Cross-Strait Issues would be brought up by Malaysia against Singapore.
Continuation:
-As Tensions rise between Malaysia and Singapore, Maritime Trade Disruption will be inevitable, especially the Malacca Strait that’s already banned Westerners and it’s Allies because of their Support for Israel.
Because of that, Maritime Trade Routes would have rerouting away from Malacca Strait into The Indonesian Straits(which Indonesia is going to openly welcome, Probably Angering Malaysia which the former may dismissed), which initially will benefits Indonesia but sooner the carrying Traffic cannot be sustained and a more reliable Routes are needed, and that’s where Thailand’s Kra Canal Project will have support from Western Countries(North America/Europe/Oceania), and their allies in the region, like India, Japan, South Korea, The Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, including Singapore and probably Indonesia.
-When this happens and Thailand decided to start building the Canal, it will angered Malaysia and will be threatened by these Project, and China could also not be spared and Issues of Human Rights of Uiyghur Muslims in Xinjiang would be brought up. And Maritime Dispute in South China Sea could be also raised against China PRC.
Part3: To be Continue...
-Retaliation by the Western Alliance headed by UK, US, Australia with their Allies help would try to destabilize Malaysia, especially on East Malaysia in partnership with US-PH and UK-BR by bringing out the historical disputes in the area and how Malaysia Coerced them to be part of Malaysian Federation. Singapore will support these knowing it's responsible for pushing the States there to be part of the Union only to be left them in a Colonial Status under Malaysia while Singapore goes to become Independent & Rich, forgetting it's responsibility on North Borneo States that left in the Limbo, occupied/colonized/taken advantaged by Malays for their Lands and Resources.
The land bridge is cumbersome and needs big huge areas in both ends to store containers while waiting for loading and unloading.....
Cambodia is constructing a canal more longer than this Kra Ismait.. of Thailand.
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I think it will easier to put factory in Thailand and can ship to west or east easily
This is probably the best benefit Thailand can get, not some "China world domination" nonsense but local production and shipment.
@@danielc2701 However, Thai government should look out not to let only Chinese factory (or others) buy all the land from local.
When will Thailand build this canal?
After another 100 years, to make it 400 years since first planned 😂
China only need Myanmar seaports to import oil
1) Canel or Rail from Thailand or Malaysia need to load and unload cargoes at both sides = A
2) Travel time from East to West = B
3) Current route = C
Time required A+B > C = waste of time;
Cost A+B > C = waste of money
Efficiency A+B < C = lost of benefits
If All the three above are A+B better than C, then it is worthy! Viola.
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Do keep in in mind that this is not like Panama. It's mostly mountainous and forested. Not that easy nor cheap to blast through.
And it does not bypass a continent. At best it only saves 14 hours. Not sure if people are going to want to pay for such a small time savings.
Kra canal is most important significantly for Malaysia economy.
Let's see if they hammered there own foot 😂😂.
it's. Good to open kra canal
Thailand has a habit of being so slow with infrastructure projects. That's why the economy is so stagnant. If you want to boost the economy you have to take a lot of risk and build mega projects just like how China is running their country.
Whether it's a land bridge or canal, it means hundreds of bridges and road crossings have to be built in order to facilitate crossings between North Thailand and South Thailand. This has not been factored in. It would greatly inconvenience travelling for the Thai population. So Thailand may facilitate world transport issues but at a cost to its own people. It's a trade off the Thailand government of the day has to consider too!
The biggest opposition to this project will obviously be Singapore , but should it ?African countries are also growing rapidly and the volumes of trade with Asia are growing, the reality is the straits of Malacca can't be able to accommodate this increase. I foresee a deal with Singapore where ships going out will pass by Malacca while ships going in will pass through the Canal
Max take. There is no issues with ships passing the strait and a canel would only have a small number of ships able to travel through it at any given moment.
Why should Singapore be worried? Read some history and you will see that the Thais have been talking about building the Kra Canal for decades and nothing has come to fruition.
And where is the money going to come from? Thailand is not really in that good fiscal shape after so many coups. And China is in no position to loan money given its domestic economic issues.
Not decades but centuries 😂
It’s only a rail 🚂 line idea currently nothing about shipping
Allowing US army bases near singapore will probably became headache for Singapore as China is moving away. This is going to break singapore for sure.
Stand by and watch while US stops this happening.
as a Thai, ik both goverment and opposition party are agree in the balancing superpower, we still standing since the days of french and brit try to slice our land in half, i mean our airforce is mostly all US stuff meanwhile navy mostly chinese stuff only concern in my eye is a traffic jam on the bridge lol.
Yeah cry about it.
@@Pai_2005 I also remember that Singapore passes their old planes to Thailand. But with all the Kra blaming and Taylor Swift blaming, I'm not sure if Singapore will continue to pass their planes to Thailand if they throw a tantrum from being made a scapegoat.
How long it will take to recover the USD 28Billion investment 😊
Singapore would became a wasteland
Dont forget fuel ⛽ price
No oil top up in Thailand. Failed.
This doesnt makes sense
Projects that Thailand will build You have to find people to invest. And we probably won't borrow money from China. The way many nations do Size of high speed train We use our money to create it ourselves. China only helps us technically.
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Canal or land bridge are good things.😂
The proposal for this project hasn't been submitted to the Thai's parliament. So, it was just all talk. Don't worry guys. It has potential to being tremendous amount of wealth to Thailand. But It has fetal flaw. Democracy... Government has to buy all those land back from the citizen. It would take around 40years to buy those back even if government has the money. It would take another 50years to dig out the land that much distance. so... not gonna happen. Unless there's a Huge investment from somewhere.
wait, so the canal cost $28bn, and the new land bridge proposal is also 28bn
There is something wrong then. 😂
Shh... both the cost are the same because..... that is the amount of money going into the civil servant's pockets. lol.
Singapore and Malaysia sponsored video!
Singapore will object to this!
Singapore has no jurisdiction over a project in Thailand
⚠The information in the video is wrong. They built land bridges, not canals. And every ship can come and use the service by just paying the shipping fee. (this is not about China and the United States.) The purpose is to earn money for the country like Singapore used to do.
Build ports on both sides and connect them with trains. This means that the ship does not have to cross to the other side, but instead will transport the container to the other side by train.
They mentioned that near the end.
Have you watched the whole video?
Too late, Malaysia alreasy building and will be completed in 2026
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No need for a canal. Build two huge ports in both sides then link them with double stack container freight trains.
Uhm....them US ships move around....lol
as a Thai, most of us (mostly youth) are more pro US, and one thing i belive in our gov is balancing power a.k.a. playing superpower at eachother, is one thing us thai good at since 1800s
@@Pai_2005 yes good. My comment was about how video said the canal would help avoid US ships. Like they are stationary and can’t be off the coasts of all countries like Vietnam, etc.
Man. For every single geopolitical project in the world:
'But theres a problem. Muslims'
Because it cuts through Muslim tribal areas in the south of Thailand.
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usa and uk make big problem to the world, that is cristian.
If US can blockade Mallaca Strait, why US can't blockade Kra Canal?
How China can projecting their military power in Andaman Sea, when Andaman Sea is literally India's territory, and 6th degree Channel is Indonesia's territory? By declaring war to this both nations???
And why Thailand would sacrifice their own lands just serve China interest? Lands is way more precious than all profits they will get, even 200 years of profit will not replace the lost lands.
You may not know, China was in talks to lease a war port in Myanmar but was stopped because of the civil war. from various ethnic minorities in Myanmar with Western military trainers Otherwise there will be a ship base on the left side of Thailand. and play a role in the Indian Sea through Myanmar
Thai right: In Cambodia, there is a war port, two Chinese ships are moored, and there may be pressure on Thailand. control this new project in the future Vietnam is also affected.
pipe dream
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I am against this project
For over 50 years they are talking about it. And it never made economic sense. But it's great for politicans to demand it.
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Good job 👍 I love these types of videos. Personally, I don’t think this canal would be created. It’s gonna cause too many issues between great powers. ( cough, cough. the US )
Thailand is literally a U.S. ally. And creating another choke point would not solve the issue. Like at all.
You commis still lose, the US navy can still block it.
It will not be. The current government's plan is not a canal.
@@AL-lh2ht Singapore 🇸🇬 is also a American ally
Nothing to do with power. It is all about the money. Thailand is not really in a good financial state after so many coups. Its infrastructure, education and health system are all creaking and groaning away. Better off spending +20B into their economy to benefit all citizens instead of concentrating on a glamour project which the Muslim majority southern Thais are not going to be so happy about.
Low key. Britain and France outclassed every other empire with the suez canal. The US controlled Panama Canal was a leap forward as well. This is really dangerous planning on the Chinese part 😂
Nooo basta de guerras ni juegos 😢😢😢😢
Plz do Kaladan Multipurpose India-Myanmar
iT'LL NEVER HAPPEN, tHAILAND DOES NOT WANT A CANAL
Thailand doesn't want a Canal. Thailand wants money. (Who doesn't want ?😂)
It's a daydream project . It will never happen!!! Thailand has thought this project some hundred years ago and it will never happen. Thank you .
very useless project on earth......if it good been invest for the last 30 years not wait until now 3 or 4 days cut not for free may be cost is higher. sound like only dry cgos is allowed if oil product is there oil pollution will impact andaman when it occured
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I live in Thailand, this canal will never be built because it will separate the south from Thailand, there are many groups (Muslims) who want that part of the country to join Malaysia By building its canal, Thailand will lose the entire south to Malaysia.
Người Mỹ và các đồng minh hiện nay bận rộn với Ucraina rồi chiến trường dãy gada của đồng minh lsraren. Mà bỏ quên tuyến đường hàng hải rất quan trọng là Biển Đông nếu China chiếm trọn biển Đông thì coi như mọi tuyến đường này bị kiểm soát về chiến bay và tàu chiến
Waste of money
jezuz! I'm getting dizzy by the graphics. epileptic warning, maybe? LOL
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