I don't think so. I'm going to guess she needs permissions from the producers. if there wasn't any rules behind the scenes, those cocktail parties would be pure chaos.
Producers actually orchestrate when the girls get to go talk to the lead. It wasn’t Maria’s fault that Jess didn’t get time, it was the producers fault lol (and they were clearly not giving Jess time just to rile her up).
I couldn't understand why the girls are obsessed with Maria, but then I looked at their ages when it popped up next to their name. Lea is 23 and Jess is 24. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW. Maria is 29, Madina is 31... both mature and well spoken women. These girls are still communicating as their high school selves, brains still not fully developed. Maria is one of my favorites, very intelligent. Hope she goes far.
Yeah, they are! they had the same opportunity as Maria to cut in but did not. So what that she got a rose; Joey needs to spend time with ones that he has a connection and not waste time such as with the one he was with when she cut in. Maria needed to preserve that. Later on Joey, says, WE always have fun. WE always laugh. This is the kind of girl he wants. He made a big mistake eliminating her.
@@elotalks8185 ok, that’s a massive leap. The other women felt disrespected because Maria already had a rose and needed to butt in on someone else’s limited time with Joey. This is an *incredibly* common scenario in Bachelor world where other contestants get upset and express it. Not only was Maria’s behavior selfish, her response to Jess’s expressing her unhappiness about the situation was RUDE and dismissive.
And gloating about kissing him! Lol! She’s full of sh*t! Many people thought she was disrespectful night 1. Did Maria cry tattoo tears about it? No. Probably bc she wasn’t suffering from insecurity.
@@Mk-eo3ss And all of them. NONE of them defended Maria. They let it happen. As it turned out in future episodes the rest are just as Jealous as Jess AND Lea, they feel self-defeated that Maria is the person they are NOT. The rest of the girls had the same opportunity as Maria. So what, she got a rose, this means there is a connection so preserve that BY CUTTING IN. Joey doesn't need to waste time with someone he does not have a connection with! That girl understood that Jess ADDED DRAMA, she did NOT complain when Maria cut in. Jess had NO right to be so rude to Maria. I think Maria should not have added to her drama and just ignore her so they & the rest WON'T REPORT HER TO JOEY. she should have stayed silent. Let her talk to the wall.
I’m so fed up of this storyline every single season that because you have a rose you can’t speak to him! Of course she can! And why did Jess not go and take the initiative to speak to Joey she’s taking out her own insecurities on Maria!!
What’s funny is that Jess out of all of them sitting her had the MOST time with Joey that day after her separate paint date with him in which they spent well more than 10 minutes together. She’s triggered by Maria’s existence lol. She absolutely could’ve gotten up to try to talk to him but she felt more justified in confronting Maria with her master Lea sitting a few feet away.
Yeah like she wastes literally I bet a whole hour sitting there being mad and crying outside. That takes time and she could've just interrupted someone. If she really wanted it.
Yup. Lea is the same way. Lea in the previous episode only approached Medina to talk outside the second Maria got up to get a drink. And didn’t say any of what she felt abt Maria to her face. C0wards. They’re all peas in a pod. Rachel being their besties also earns the side eye from me. You are who u surround urself with.
Exactly!!!! There is no way that Joey has any connection with Lea, Jess, and a couple of the others. He should be allowed to send them home and concentrate on the ones that you can see he has a connection with. Jess & Lea are children compared to some of the other ladies .
I don’t think Maria is a mean girl. She’s bold and confident and has been super respectful of all of the women until they give her a reason not to be. She’s never wasted her time bad mouthing another girl or tearing them down. She interrupted someone to make sure she got time with him even though she had a rose. So what. I would actually think it’s proof to Joey that Maria is there for him and is being intentional to get time with him regardless.
So you think it’s “super respectful” to be loudly dismissing someone else’s personal insecurity about age? When that person may have a completely different lived experience around the subject and had to be vulnerable enough to share that insecurity with a group of younger women?
Yeah, it is. Unfortunately, a lot of girls have that disease. I was a Maria that others were very jealous of. I got the guy every girl wanted. I learned not to hang out with fellow employees for this reason.
She's quite articulate though... Kudos for her willingness to learn in such circumstances... bless them all... they usually have their growing epiphanies once they leave the cameras behind... easy for us to look at our screens and judge... entirely different being immersed in the process😢❤️🩹🕊🌹
I think its because Maria already has a rose and she was safe from elimination and she's worried that someone who is already feeling safe would be even in a more safe space than her even though I do think they are the same situation
@@JasonFoo1653 oh no I totally got that, but saying she’s a horrible person just for this when Jess did the same thing, is ridiculous!! Also she’s the only one complaining about it. Kinda weird.
They're so jealous coming at her all the time and they are pissed that she responds. I got bullied real hard during highschool, I get defensive too when people come at me. I sympathise with Maria very much. This is her, all grown up, defending that girl that didn't have the power to defend herself when she was younger. The little girls of this group need to grow up.
Yes! They are angry she does NOT submit and DEFENDS HERSELF! All while remaining classy. That’s what irks them, her not being their doormat. She gives me life! I am too reminded of my middle school bullied days when mean girls would tell lies about things I’d say to make me out to be a villain and ostracized. And so she low key even reminds me to not take anybody’s shxt because when she was like “lemme ask you a question Jess” I was like ooh! 💀👏🏾
if jess really wanted to talk to joey then she could’ve just interrupted them lol. i don’t know where that energy went when she stole joey twice on night one. 🤷♀️
The clown came back to bite! And what’s funny is no one even interrupted her a$$! Maria interrupted KATELYN, and bc Katelyn ain’t grappling with the disease of jealousy, she had no issue w her! It was JESS’ behind who inserted herself like Sydney 3.0 bc of her own inadequacies!
Also as one of the You Tube recappers said that you could tell Maria to go and speak to Joey . Maria came from a totally different area and as the recapper said seened surprised that there was someone there already . The production crew are master 💩stirrers … it’s all about the Drama for them .
And I LOVED it! She was like “Jess let me ask you a question….” 💀 I was like oop! That’s courage right there lol. Tell her how you feel! And she did just that while remaining classy. When she asks questions that they can’t answer or she says things that they know are true, they always gotta get up and leave bc she’s not submitting 💀
Maybe Maria was wrong here but imo she's always been very respectful of everybody and it seems like a few of the girls were/are jealous of her confidence and connection with Joey
But she wasn’t in the wrong at all, rose ceremonies are to talk to joey and further their relationship, never before in other seasons has happen that because you have a rose you cant talk to him. Sorry but they are there for very little time, the ones like Maria who have a real connection with joey should def try to talk to him as much as they can, since there is an engagement at the end, you don’t want to say yes to a stranger just because some girls are insecure and didn’t let you talk to him enough
@@Yellow4494 😂yes on top of all she did the same and said she would do it again, and like Maria said if would have come to her in a calm and respectful way she would have empathize with her but jess immediately throw maria a snarky comment
She didn’ overact a little. She went damn crazy. The one girl told them Maria interrupted her, so if she thought that was wrong and she wanted time w/Joey she should have gone and interrupted Maria for her time instead of whining and bringing others into her misery. Don’t get me started on Leah. Amazing they call Maria a mean girl when she & some others are disgracefully mean and bitchy. 🤦🏽♀️
@@marpalpe8255being that the girls don't like her she should not have fanned fuel to the fire meaning she should have just waited till the girl was finished talking with Joey and then she should have went and talked with Joey that's all but I still love Maria though
Jess, get your butt up and go talk to him. Go interrupt someone, whatever, if you really wanna talk to him you wouldn't waste your time sittin on the couch talking, crying, arguing, waiting for everyone to confirm that its your time to talk to Joey. You gotta do it yourself. If i were in Marias shoes and i missed my man, id do the same, even if i had a rose.
Jesse is acting like a jealous immature brat. instead of whining and crying, I would say, be a little bit more assertive and go talk to joey. Maria is very assertive and confident and I think the women are feeling intimidated by her. you be you Maria you're awesome #❤️❤️TeamMaria❤️❤️
Alayah was also the prettiest girl on that season too …. 🫣 she was drop dead gorgeous and had the most unique appearance.. same thing with Maria. She’s uniquely gorgeous and stands out
Maria's exhausted, can't catch a break. This argument is recycled season after season about someone "taking time." I wonder if Maria knew that taking time when she already has a rose could be made into an argument. Lexi is right, jealousy is at the core of it all, maria's a target because she has a connection with Joey and she's an easy target because she is already wounded from Sydney's attacks. I notice that Joey never calls daisy's name first, he's hiding her at 3rd, 4th so that people don't think to attack her.
@@hijaovercomer5500 There's no respect for getting old. That's barely an achievement in this day and age. Respect is for _achievements_ *only.* THIS person failed to comprehend the situation she's commenting on - namely, *THE FRIGGIN' BACHELOR!* Same as you. You get no points for that. Well, OK, maybe negative points, haha. Thus, her "wisdom" was _irrelevant._
@@hijaovercomer5500 That was sweet. For what its worth, internet trolls who know nothing about me, also do not affect me. they are entitled to their little opinions. it shows who they are.
I have always found it rude when anyone interrupts another contestant’s conversation. But it wouldn’t be much of a show if they used only rational, selfless, emotionally stable people. Go, Maria! ❤ (And Daisy❤) R.D.
This is a CONTEST, Maria did THE RIGHT THING. Each girl had the SAME OPPORTUNITY to do what Maria did, cut in. Maria is aggressive to get what she wants. I admire her move to get Joey. Jess had contempt towards Maria because Maria is challenging. Both Jess & Lea are not as aggressive and felt self-defeated at who and how Maria is.
This Jess should have gone home long ago. She is one of the girl causing trouble in the house, she is in Sydney group, they are all jealous of this Maria.
Whew! Projection is a MF! And that’s what we just saw Jess do! Katelyn didn’t even have a problem w being interrupted by Maria, bc she’s not grappling w insecurity, but of course, Jess being Sydney 3.0, had to insert herself in order to blame Maria for her own inadequacies. Apart from Jess completely losing it out of sheer envy despite having had the MOST time with him outta all of the women that day during her paint date, Rachel does too much talking to Maria for me while pretending to be Switzerland. Why did she address Maria at the end to seemingly stop her from talking to Jess when Jess got up to leave during her tantrum and was the one in the wrong? She never called Jess out. Rachel has a problem with holding her lil friends accountable and if it something I h8, it’s a bystander. She did something similar in the previous episode when she made sure to tell Maria what she “thought” aka knew what Lea was outside telling Madina about her having a problem w Medina being nice to Maria, all to make Maria ultimately feel bad and create mess. When Maria asked her if that was a problem, Rachel didn’t answer her, she just shrugged and looked away bc she can’t form her own opinions. Very much high school mentality. She tries to hide her hands though and choose her words carefully to not make it seem as though she has a problem w Maria when i believe she does due to her being besties with Lea and Jess. You are who you surround urself with, just as we saw with Lea taking Sydney’s place as the bitter Betty. Rachel and that whole clique who are 5x worse are very insufferable to me. Mean girl central. Jealousy is a disease.
I haven't watched this season, but just watched 3 clips from it. I love Maria's confidence. He's attracted to her because of that and she's very alluring and charismatic and articulate. Jess is an insecure whiner and doesn't have a chance because she takes no initiative. Maria is the reason I'd jump in midstream and watch the show. She and Joey have mad chemistry.
Jess gets in her head too much which is why I feel for her, she only needs to worry about her relationship with brother Joey and block the others but I get it’s easier said than done.
What did this even have to do with Jess in the first place ? The woman who was cut didn’t complain he wasn’t so into Jess and told her so later on this had nothing to do with Maria he didn’t like her
Not having seen ANYTHING else of the bachelor, Jess could have stood up but I’ve also been SOOO insecure so I get that side too:( it’s conflicting. But it seems like she was waiting for him to come to her??? And I don’t think that’s how that works.
My horse anyways is Daisy, the most best perfume in this season. Automn is nice but not for Joey. I like Rachel too. SYDNEY, LEA, JESS even Maria and some will regret joinh this show ☹
What about Jess mentioning several times how she got extra time with Joey on the date that day?? Clearly upset she didn’t get the group date rose after “winning” the group date
Um Jess seems to have forgotten on how she not only kissed Joey on night one and shared that fact with the other girls but also how she also interrupted another girls time despite already having time with him. I am tired of all these girls bullying Maria. Jess doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike her and I feel she is just on the Sydney and Lea train and dislikes her because she is friends with them. Plus I am sure if she had a Rose she still go over and talk to Joey herself
extra time... she interrupted the first night and Maria who just wanted to have some time is being disrespectful omg jess can go seal joey if she wants
“I’m just so over the sh*t with Maria” girl you’re the one who brought it up with Maria. Maria just sat down and minded her business, but then you felt the need to say something to her. It’s valid that you wanted to say something to her and valid if you want to speak your mind and valid if you don’t want to stay quiet about the things that are bothering you, but it’s the way you went about it. Like Maria even said, if you hadn’t sounded like you were automatically attacking her as soon as you started talking to her, Maria probably would have had a lot more empathy and patience with what you were talking to her about and could have been more understanding. The tone was everything, and so of course, Maria was going to defend herself. A different tone and handling it better could have potentially gone a long way with voicing how you felt with Maria.
If he wanted more time or time in general with him , Joey himself could have offered it to her. Shes behaving like hew the ONLY man in the entire world . She comes across and desperate and insercure ! Also Lea stirred the pot by telling all the ladies in the first place. Her date wasnt interpretee not Jesses..
I get that Maria was really trying to be nice but she did came out at the wrong time to talk to Joey since she was already a really strong connection with Joey and it became more stronger because of the rose so I do see a bit of Jess’s defense
Here’s the thing though it’s a competition as well. If Jess wanted to talk to him she could have she chose to sit around and wanted Joey to come to her or wait her turn I guess.
They are not there to get roses and be safe, they are there to get to know a man, fall in love and get engage at the end, you can only get to know him in such a short period of time if you talk to him as much as possible. Rose ceremonies are to do that no matter if you have a rose or not. Is the first season from the ones I’ve watched where someone gets mad because someone with a rose talked to the lead
She probably had a producer telling her "they are finishing up, go grab him", it happens every year. You could see how apologetic she was about it. Also, imagine yourself falling for someone - wouldn't you want to spend time with them, regardless the situation? I would. I 10000% think she didn't mean anything by it towards the women. She's not there to pet Jess on the back, she's there to get to know this man she might get engaged to.
Jess Edwards is a native of Erwin, TN. She's in our local newspaper, she's "famous" here...where the paper is printed once a week on Wednesday. I love this town, I married my husband in this town, yet I've come to know so many "pretty girls" from here. She moved to California, instead of finding a nice down home country boy like I did. If you truly loved your home, your background, there are so many good jobs, so many good people and men within a 50 mile radius...yet she's on the bachelor interrupting other women's time? I personally have a hard time meeting and becoming friends with women from this county, as they either are rude, have seven kids with three diff dads, or just simply sleep around. The girl I work with who is a nurse states that Jess was a sleep around type of girl, who initially moved to CA with a boyfriend, then things didn't work out. I don't know her, but I've heard tons of bad stories,and where I live...they don't spin out for nothing, not even jealousy. I hope she wins, but I also know no one is who they seem until about five years in. That's why my husband and I waited six years to marry, and have been together a total of 12....and we are from where Jess is from
Jess could’ve interrupted Maria’s time if she was so offended by that. Jess is the main reason why Jess didn’t get any time with him.
Mhmmmmm
I don't think so. I'm going to guess she needs permissions from the producers. if there wasn't any rules behind the scenes, those cocktail parties would be pure chaos.
@@StellarNovahI think the producers would’ve loved if Jess interrupted Maria. More drama=more entertainment
Exactly, but instead she spent too much time getting in her head and wrapped up in her emotions rather than seek out time with him.
Producers actually orchestrate when the girls get to go talk to the lead. It wasn’t Maria’s fault that Jess didn’t get time, it was the producers fault lol (and they were clearly not giving Jess time just to rile her up).
These girls are obscenely jealous of Maria and all of their insecurities are coming out
absolutely
Poor Babies... the environment is nothing like they've experienced formerly!! They're all paddling the best they can through these fiery rapids!!
I couldn't understand why the girls are obsessed with Maria, but then I looked at their ages when it popped up next to their name. Lea is 23 and Jess is 24. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW. Maria is 29, Madina is 31... both mature and well spoken women. These girls are still communicating as their high school selves, brains still not fully developed. Maria is one of my favorites, very intelligent. Hope she goes far.
Yeah, they are! they had the same opportunity as Maria to cut in but did not. So what that she got a rose; Joey needs to spend time with ones that he has a connection and not waste time such as with the one he was with when she cut in. Maria needed to preserve that. Later on Joey, says, WE always have fun. WE always laugh. This is the kind of girl he wants. He made a big mistake eliminating her.
@@elotalks8185 ok, that’s a massive leap. The other women felt disrespected because Maria already had a rose and needed to butt in on someone else’s limited time with Joey. This is an *incredibly* common scenario in Bachelor world where other contestants get upset and express it. Not only was Maria’s behavior selfish, her response to Jess’s expressing her unhappiness about the situation was RUDE and dismissive.
Jess was that girl interrupting others night one!! 👏👏😂😂
Exactly! They can do it but when it happens to them it's a problem.
And gloating about kissing him! Lol! She’s full of sh*t! Many people thought she was disrespectful night 1. Did Maria cry tattoo tears about it? No. Probably bc she wasn’t suffering from insecurity.
Yes, and she was the first one to get a smoochie -poo.😅
My thougts exactly
I forgot about that. Her "hurt" is not felt by me at all!!
I feel so bad for Maria for having to deal with little brats like Jess and Sydney
Don’t forget other girl that’s like watch your back Maria don’t forget her she’s like awful
don’t forget lea
@@Mk-eo3ss
And all of them. NONE of them defended Maria. They let it happen.
As it turned out in future episodes the rest are just as Jealous as Jess AND Lea, they feel self-defeated that Maria is the person they are NOT. The rest of the girls had the same opportunity as Maria.
So what, she got a rose, this means there is a connection so preserve that BY CUTTING IN.
Joey doesn't need to waste time with someone he does not have a connection with!
That girl understood that Jess ADDED DRAMA, she did NOT complain when Maria cut in.
Jess had NO right to be so rude to Maria. I think Maria should not have added to her drama and just ignore her so they & the rest WON'T REPORT HER TO JOEY. she should have stayed silent. Let her talk to the wall.
Jess calling Maria disrespectful when she literally did the same thing on night one is crazy 😂😂
I’m so fed up of this storyline every single season that because you have a rose you can’t speak to him! Of course she can! And why did Jess not go and take the initiative to speak to Joey she’s taking out her own insecurities on Maria!!
What’s funny is that Jess out of all of them sitting her had the MOST time with Joey that day after her separate paint date with him in which they spent well more than 10 minutes together. She’s triggered by Maria’s existence lol. She absolutely could’ve gotten up to try to talk to him but she felt more justified in confronting Maria with her master Lea sitting a few feet away.
Yeah like she wastes literally I bet a whole hour sitting there being mad and crying outside. That takes time and she could've just interrupted someone. If she really wanted it.
Lea is Sydney 2.0 and Jess is Sydney 3.0 . They took up Sydney’s place the moment she left. Unhinged.
I think its because they were friends of Sydney
Jess is so passive aggressive. Like she wants to make comments about Maria, but can't say it to her when confronted.
Yup. Lea is the same way. Lea in the previous episode only approached Medina to talk outside the second Maria got up to get a drink. And didn’t say any of what she felt abt Maria to her face. C0wards. They’re all peas in a pod. Rachel being their besties also earns the side eye from me. You are who u surround urself with.
Exactly!!!! There is no way that Joey has any connection with Lea, Jess, and a couple of the others. He should be allowed to send them home and concentrate on the ones that you can see he has a connection with. Jess & Lea are children compared to some of the other ladies .
@@SupernaturalLove100 yes! I second guess Rachel just because I see who she is friends with.
I don’t think Maria is a mean girl. She’s bold and confident and has been super respectful of all of the women until they give her a reason not to be. She’s never wasted her time bad mouthing another girl or tearing them down. She interrupted someone to make sure she got time with him even though she had a rose. So what. I would actually think it’s proof to Joey that Maria is there for him and is being intentional to get time with him regardless.
I totally agree.
So you think it’s “super respectful” to be loudly dismissing someone else’s personal insecurity about age? When that person may have a completely different lived experience around the subject and had to be vulnerable enough to share that insecurity with a group of younger women?
Maria is a rare one! She’s a fighter! I’m glad she always stands up for herself and isn’t willing to let others tear her down!
She’s a narc
love Maria
Xdchjd dnndh
@@bellofigoitaliano5038 ur a narc babe
tell me you're too young and insecure and not ready to get married without telling me you're too young and insecure and not ready to get married
Lea and Jess right 😂😂
Lame
agreed BUT Maria was also super outright disrespectful too. I mean all is fair in love and war, and it wasn't Jess's place to jump in either.
how about to replace insecure with hurt.
3:28 “I just don’t understand what he sees in her.” OOP! She just spoke the quiet part out loud folks! Jealousy is a disease! 💀
Yeah, it is. Unfortunately, a lot of girls have that disease. I was a Maria that others were very jealous of. I got the guy every girl wanted. I learned not to hang out with fellow employees for this reason.
Jesse is to immature for a relationship. She is insecure.
She's quite articulate though... Kudos for her willingness to learn in such circumstances... bless them all... they usually have their growing epiphanies once they leave the cameras behind... easy for us to look at our screens and judge... entirely different being immersed in the process😢❤️🩹🕊🌹
Jess? Not Jesse.
@@nopetfout5426 hahaha why was it so important to you that everyone gets her name correct, peculiar guy
Jess literally stole Joey before too?? I guess she’s the only allowed to.
And said she would do it AGAIN after Taylor spoke to her! 🥴
I think its because Maria already has a rose and she was safe from elimination and she's worried that someone who is already feeling safe would be even in a more safe space than her even though I do think they are the same situation
@@JasonFoo1653 Maria barely spent any time with Joey even though she had a rose. Why is she held to a higher standard? It's hypocrisy on all levels.
@@JasonFoo1653 oh no I totally got that, but saying she’s a horrible person just for this when Jess did the same thing, is ridiculous!! Also she’s the only one complaining about it. Kinda weird.
They're so jealous coming at her all the time and they are pissed that she responds. I got bullied real hard during highschool, I get defensive too when people come at me. I sympathise with Maria very much. This is her, all grown up, defending that girl that didn't have the power to defend herself when she was younger.
The little girls of this group need to grow up.
This is sort of like how Alayah was treated back in Peter’s season
Yes! They are angry she does NOT submit and DEFENDS HERSELF! All while remaining classy. That’s what irks them, her not being their doormat. She gives me life! I am too reminded of my middle school bullied days when mean girls would tell lies about things I’d say to make me out to be a villain and ostracized. And so she low key even reminds me to not take anybody’s shxt because when she was like “lemme ask you a question Jess” I was like ooh! 💀👏🏾
I agree entirely, I was bullied growing up in school as well. I am the same way, I will stand my ground, respectfully.
I agree with everything you say. The rest just sat there watching it happen, didn't defend Maria. Didn't try to put a stop to it!
if jess really wanted to talk to joey then she could’ve just interrupted them lol. i don’t know where that energy went when she stole joey twice on night one. 🤷♀️
The clown came back to bite! And what’s funny is no one even interrupted her a$$! Maria interrupted KATELYN, and bc Katelyn ain’t grappling with the disease of jealousy, she had no issue w her! It was JESS’ behind who inserted herself like Sydney 3.0 bc of her own inadequacies!
Also as one of the You Tube recappers said that you could tell Maria to go and speak to Joey . Maria came from a totally different area and as the recapper said seened surprised that there was someone there already . The production crew are master 💩stirrers … it’s all about the Drama for them .
I lost it when she said “I’m sorry it breaks your balls” 😂
Jess’s attitude in confrontation is so childlike she can’t form a logical sentence without swearing or pffft😭😂
Oh look, Looney Lea gettin involved with something that doesn’t concern her again.
💀🎯 She’s the second coming of Sydney.
Again🎯
Lol Maria had enough of the drama w/ these girls
And I LOVED it! She was like “Jess let me ask you a question….” 💀 I was like oop! That’s courage right there lol. Tell her how you feel! And she did just that while remaining classy. When she asks questions that they can’t answer or she says things that they know are true, they always gotta get up and leave bc she’s not submitting 💀
Maybe Maria was wrong here but imo she's always been very respectful of everybody and it seems like a few of the girls were/are jealous of her confidence and connection with Joey
But she wasn’t in the wrong at all, rose ceremonies are to talk to joey and further their relationship, never before in other seasons has happen that because you have a rose you cant talk to him. Sorry but they are there for very little time, the ones like Maria who have a real connection with joey should def try to talk to him as much as they can, since there is an engagement at the end, you don’t want to say yes to a stranger just because some girls are insecure and didn’t let you talk to him enough
That's true. Jess did overreact a little especially when she did the same on night 1
@@Yellow4494 😂yes on top of all she did the same and said she would do it again, and like Maria said if would have come to her in a calm and respectful way she would have empathize with her but jess immediately throw maria a snarky comment
She didn’ overact a little. She went damn crazy. The one girl told them Maria interrupted her, so if she thought that was wrong and she wanted time w/Joey she should have gone and interrupted Maria for her time instead of whining and bringing others into her misery. Don’t get me started on Leah. Amazing they call Maria a mean girl when she & some others are disgracefully mean and bitchy. 🤦🏽♀️
@@marpalpe8255being that the girls don't like her she should not have fanned fuel to the fire meaning she should have just waited till the girl was finished talking with Joey and then she should have went and talked with Joey that's all but I still love Maria though
Maria is Canadian,polite is in our blood but we got a hockey stick behind our backs to club some respect into folks,lol
Jess, get your butt up and go talk to him. Go interrupt someone, whatever, if you really wanna talk to him you wouldn't waste your time sittin on the couch talking, crying, arguing, waiting for everyone to confirm that its your time to talk to Joey. You gotta do it yourself. If i were in Marias shoes and i missed my man, id do the same, even if i had a rose.
Jesse is acting like a jealous immature brat. instead of whining and crying, I would say, be a little bit more assertive and go talk to joey. Maria is very assertive and confident and I think the women are feeling intimidated by her. you be you Maria you're awesome #❤️❤️TeamMaria❤️❤️
Jess. Her name isn't Jesse
@@nopetfout5426hahaha
Jess, YOU go and TALK to Joey - take the initiative yourself! Interrupt if you must, like the other women do! 😂
She's interrupted before with no hesitation, so what's changed? 🤔🤨
@@sonyadrake7843I’m guessing because Maria had a rose already
Like.. no one held Jess down and not let her go to him? “What does Joey see in her” like.. girl open your eyes and you’ll see
She wants to cry about someone stealing her time with Joey but do you guys forgot she stole time twice from another girl??? Who is she???
Anyone else reminded of Alayah’s situation on PP’s season? All the girls ganged up on her just because she had a big personality
Yeah I don't see what Alayah even did to the rest of the girls on Peter's season
@@JasonFoo1653 That was the worse case of bullying on the bachelor. Sydney Hightower was acting like Sydney Gordon, only much worse.
Alayah was also the prettiest girl on that season too …. 🫣 she was drop dead gorgeous and had the most unique appearance.. same thing with Maria. She’s uniquely gorgeous and stands out
Thank you Lexi for your words!!! They are so true!!!!
Jess is so dramatic and such a victim 😂
Maria's exhausted, can't catch a break. This argument is recycled season after season about someone "taking time."
I wonder if Maria knew that taking time when she already has a rose could be made into an argument.
Lexi is right, jealousy is at the core of it all, maria's a target because she has a connection with Joey and she's an easy target because she is already wounded from Sydney's attacks.
I notice that Joey never calls daisy's name first, he's hiding her at 3rd, 4th so that people don't think to attack her.
Team Maria!
Young Ladies, here is my old lady wisdom... find a guy who pursues YOU.
Do you know where you are? Maybe that brain has gotten a bit _too_ old.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316you are so rude with this older lady, respect elders !
I agree with the older lady !
@@hijaovercomer5500 There's no respect for getting old. That's barely an achievement in this day and age.
Respect is for _achievements_ *only.*
THIS person failed to comprehend the situation she's commenting on - namely, *THE FRIGGIN' BACHELOR!* Same as you. You get no points for that. Well, OK, maybe negative points, haha.
Thus, her "wisdom" was _irrelevant._
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 wisdom is never irrelevant my dear.
@@hijaovercomer5500 That was sweet. For what its worth, internet trolls who know nothing about me, also do not affect me. they are entitled to their little opinions. it shows who they are.
Maria is done with the BS. Go Maria! Stand your ground girl.
I have always found it rude when anyone interrupts another contestant’s conversation. But it wouldn’t be much of a show if they used only rational, selfless, emotionally stable people. Go, Maria! ❤ (And Daisy❤) R.D.
She’s so jealous, Maria is just gorgeous and has this great connection with Joey
Wow, How old are the women? He’s only going to pick one of you , Did you not read the memo?😂
Every season there's a group of 23 year olds who seem to forget what the show is all about. They gotta cast older contestants.
This is a CONTEST, Maria did THE RIGHT THING. Each girl had the SAME OPPORTUNITY to do what Maria did, cut in. Maria is aggressive to get what she wants. I admire her move to get Joey.
Jess had contempt towards Maria because Maria is challenging.
Both Jess & Lea are not as aggressive and felt self-defeated at who and how Maria is.
I’m such a big Maria Stan. Lex plz go away
This Jess should have gone home long ago. She is one of the girl causing trouble in the house, she is in Sydney group, they are all jealous of this Maria.
Whew! Projection is a MF! And that’s what we just saw Jess do! Katelyn didn’t even have a problem w being interrupted by Maria, bc she’s not grappling w insecurity, but of course, Jess being Sydney 3.0, had to insert herself in order to blame Maria for her own inadequacies. Apart from Jess completely losing it out of sheer envy despite having had the MOST time with him outta all of the women that day during her paint date, Rachel does too much talking to Maria for me while pretending to be Switzerland.
Why did she address Maria at the end to seemingly stop her from talking to Jess when Jess got up to leave during her tantrum and was the one in the wrong? She never called Jess out. Rachel has a problem with holding her lil friends accountable and if it something I h8, it’s a bystander.
She did something similar in the previous episode when she made sure to tell Maria what she “thought” aka knew what Lea was outside telling Madina about her having a problem w Medina being nice to Maria, all to make Maria ultimately feel bad and create mess. When Maria asked her if that was a problem, Rachel didn’t answer her, she just shrugged and looked away bc she can’t form her own opinions. Very much high school mentality.
She tries to hide her hands though and choose her words carefully to not make it seem as though she has a problem w Maria when i believe she does due to her being besties with Lea and Jess. You are who you surround urself with, just as we saw with Lea taking Sydney’s place as the bitter Betty. Rachel and that whole clique who are 5x worse are very insufferable to me. Mean girl central. Jealousy is a disease.
This Maria is just nice girl look at how she is handly this attacks coming to her from all angle. This girls are jokes.
Jess is only 24 🤫
She 👀 Older than Maria who's 29 😏
Younger you mean
Wow Jess calling Maria a b**** so classless…
Lea back stabbing everyone 🤣
What the hell is a Cocktail Party without good vibes???? I don't see how this was a Cocktail "Party".😂😂😂
They sit around a table, like usual, but this time in gowns and with wine. 😁
This show u have to make ur self impressive so that’s what Maria is Doing ,I love Maria she’s a pushy person she knows what she wants
I haven't watched this season, but just watched 3 clips from it. I love Maria's confidence. He's attracted to her because of that and she's very alluring and charismatic and articulate. Jess is an insecure whiner and doesn't have a chance because she takes no initiative. Maria is the reason I'd jump in midstream and watch the show. She and Joey have mad chemistry.
Jess gets in her head too much which is why I feel for her, she only needs to worry about her relationship with brother Joey and block the others but I get it’s easier said than done.
Maria is a G! 👏🏽🖤😍
My Canadian sistaaaa
What did this even have to do with Jess in the first place ? The woman who was cut didn’t complain he wasn’t so into Jess and told her so later on this had nothing to do with Maria he didn’t like her
Jessica: I got extra time this week but I want more time…
then pissed that someone who already has rose got more time… make it make sense 😂
Go Maria!🎉
Not having seen ANYTHING else of the bachelor, Jess could have stood up but I’ve also been SOOO insecure so I get that side too:( it’s conflicting. But it seems like she was waiting for him to come to her??? And I don’t think that’s how that works.
Daisy has the power of good looks, and a calm smile. Doesn't need to feel insecure
Bless lexi for seeing what it is
Look at Jess' face at 4:56 😅
how do you expect to maintain a relationship when you can’t communicate a simple request properly…
My horse anyways is Daisy, the most best perfume in this season. Automn is nice but not for Joey. I like Rachel too. SYDNEY, LEA, JESS even Maria and some will regret joinh this show ☹
Girls watching fight between Jess vs Maria.
What about Jess mentioning several times how she got extra time with Joey on the date that day?? Clearly upset she didn’t get the group date rose after “winning” the group date
Um Jess seems to have forgotten on how she not only kissed Joey on night one and shared that fact with the other girls but also how she also interrupted another girls time despite already having time with him. I am tired of all these girls bullying Maria. Jess doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike her and I feel she is just on the Sydney and Lea train and dislikes her because she is friends with them. Plus I am sure if she had a Rose she still go over and talk to Joey herself
I mean I always thought it was rude as hell and weird for the contestants to interrupt each other. But Jess literally did it night one, twice.
extra time... she interrupted the first night and Maria who just wanted to have some time is being disrespectful omg jess can go seal joey if she wants
Jess looks like a reincarnated Kirstie Alley.
“I’m just so over the sh*t with Maria” girl you’re the one who brought it up with Maria. Maria just sat down and minded her business, but then you felt the need to say something to her. It’s valid that you wanted to say something to her and valid if you want to speak your mind and valid if you don’t want to stay quiet about the things that are bothering you, but it’s the way you went about it. Like Maria even said, if you hadn’t sounded like you were automatically attacking her as soon as you started talking to her, Maria probably would have had a lot more empathy and patience with what you were talking to her about and could have been more understanding. The tone was everything, and so of course, Maria was going to defend herself. A different tone and handling it better could have potentially gone a long way with voicing how you felt with Maria.
I like Maria, she was being respectful. Jess could have interrupted their time if she wanted to talk to him.
Ooooof, the drama! 👀
I mean I can understand why Jess is so insecure because all the women are gorgeous but I don’t think she should have been so passive aggressive
If he wanted more time or time in general with him , Joey himself could have offered it to her. Shes behaving like hew the ONLY man in the entire world . She comes across and desperate and insercure ! Also Lea stirred the pot by telling all the ladies in the first place. Her date wasnt interpretee not Jesses..
Maria for bachelorette!
they are all jealous of Maria!!! its obvious! it so toxic and degrading m.
I get that Maria was really trying to be nice but she did came out at the wrong time to talk to Joey since she was already a really strong connection with Joey and it became more stronger because of the rose so I do see a bit of Jess’s defense
Here’s the thing though it’s a competition as well. If Jess wanted to talk to him she could have she chose to sit around and wanted Joey to come to her or wait her turn I guess.
They are not there to get roses and be safe, they are there to get to know a man, fall in love and get engage at the end, you can only get to know him in such a short period of time if you talk to him as much as possible. Rose ceremonies are to do that no matter if you have a rose or not. Is the first season from the ones I’ve watched where someone gets mad because someone with a rose talked to the lead
She probably had a producer telling her "they are finishing up, go grab him", it happens every year. You could see how apologetic she was about it. Also, imagine yourself falling for someone - wouldn't you want to spend time with them, regardless the situation? I would. I 10000% think she didn't mean anything by it towards the women. She's not there to pet Jess on the back, she's there to get to know this man she might get engaged to.
Right.
Exactly! Besides Joey seemed very happy when Maria showed up, the connectiom is clear.
Maria didn’t do anything.. what a cry baby! Jess, you are so immature.
Maria is awesome. She gives zero f***s!
Maria carries herself beautifully and jess and Sydney are jealous
Everyone should get time that's a given
The girls this season are so pretty!
Jess had a painting 🖌️ date 🤷🏻♀️. Competition girls!!! Maria wants him too🤷🏻♀️
This girl is honestly so stupidly Annoying 🤦🏻♀️
Autumn is freakin hot !!!
Jess Edwards is a native of Erwin, TN. She's in our local newspaper, she's "famous" here...where the paper is printed once a week on Wednesday. I love this town, I married my husband in this town, yet I've come to know so many "pretty girls" from here. She moved to California, instead of finding a nice down home country boy like I did. If you truly loved your home, your background, there are so many good jobs, so many good people and men within a 50 mile radius...yet she's on the bachelor interrupting other women's time? I personally have a hard time meeting and becoming friends with women from this county, as they either are rude, have seven kids with three diff dads, or just simply sleep around. The girl I work with who is a nurse states that Jess was a sleep around type of girl, who initially moved to CA with a boyfriend, then things didn't work out. I don't know her, but I've heard tons of bad stories,and where I live...they don't spin out for nothing, not even jealousy. I hope she wins, but I also know no one is who they seem until about five years in. That's why my husband and I waited six years to marry, and have been together a total of 12....and we are from where Jess is from
Childish Jess, you’re not ready
Jenn listen to joey heartbeat with a 🩺🩺🩺🩺🩺🩺💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗 stethoscope❤❤❤
Of course Aries going to burn out Pisces 💁🏻♀️💁🏻♀️💁🏻♀️💁🏻♀️
I lost 2 brain cells watching this
Does anybody got a napkin?
All this cry babies will be out soon
Maria is GORG!
He is a dork. These women are desperate.
Thank god maria interruped that girl was about to drop a sob story..this early on??? No thanks
Jess is so insecure that's her problem. She gets into her head too much. Maria is so humble and gentle
I hope Maria becomes the next bachelorette🥹❤️
Really the shows rules should be he gets one and one with all the girls
I’m sowry?
Lea to the rescue of another drama queen of course
Aww hello didn’t you disrespect Terrys time on the first episode trailer trash
😅😅😅😊yhis drama of mature girls screaming 😮😊excuse me hahah
Blessings
I feel like so many of you give Maria grace just bc she's pretty bc if someone told me
"That's what I thought" I'd be calling them rude AND MORE!