Here is a well informed, prepared interviewer who asks great questions/follow-ups and then allows the interviewee to speak. There is no one better on UA-cam.
Great opine from Chris. I always saw EVH and RR as two different styled players and never felt the need to compare but rather just was thankful that I was born at the right time to watch those two especially since I was a little late for Hendrix. So many great players throughout the years but brass tacks Randy and Eddie were the guys who influenced me the most.
Great freaking interview. Really some fascinating stuff being talked about. I was blessed to have been one of Randy's students way back in the late seventies in So Cal, so I got to watch him absorb the whole Van Halen thing and see how it affected him. The thing about Randy was that he was his own artist. He created parts and solos that came to him through his years of experience working and living with a brilliant classically trained musician in his mother Dolores. That's where the classical influences came from, or at least that's what he always told me. As far as Van Halen goes, I think the thing I remember most is that suddenly all of Randy's students wanted to learn the solos from the first Van Halen record and so Randy would have to go and figure them out then bring them back to teach to the student asking for it. I asked him a bunch of times who his main influence or favorite player was, and over the 3 years I was there, he always had the same answer -- Mick Ronson. Not sure if this contributes anything to the conversation but there you go. RIP RR.
There is no Eddie vs Randy. Randy was technically ahead of his time, but Eddie was on a different level (composing, technique, rhythm, groove, everything) that is unmatched even today.
BS-there are countless players that are absolutely his level and then some. Guitar playing is not a competive sport where you keep score or win a medal-its all up to the taste of the individual. In YOUR opinion EVH is the man but not in mine or many others............
I had a cassette of Impellitteri's 4 song EP when I went to college in the fall of 1989, my entire dorm floor had to listen to it at least once a day. I also remember seeing a video or two of Animetal USA on YT, but I can't find them now.
What Chris Impellitteri said at the end about Eddie changing his guitar playing with Sammy is true, and Eddie even said so. Eddie said that one of the things that caused David Lee Roth to leave the band is that Eddied wanted the band to become "more musical" and David wanted Van Halen to remain a street rock band. .... "More musical" means exactly what Chris said. A more pop sound including more keyboards and less emphasis on guitar-god level shredding. Eddie said he wanted to put more Keyboards in the songs, and become more musical. What does "more musical" mean, when the David Lee Roth stuff was musical. The only thing it could mean is a more commercial sound with a more radio accessible pop sound that would appeal to the ladies. People tend to blame Sammy Hagar for the new Van Halen sound when Eddie repeatedly stated that he was solely responsible for the change in sound, with his brother Alex on drums backing him up on it. This was a great interview!! Cheers!! ,
I agree great interview, and what he said at the end, as you stated above, is what set aside Eddie and VH, as well as, other bands with great guitar players, it's more about the song than the guitar solo, and that's why a lot of guitar greats like Impellitterri don't make it any farther than they do because they are just the opposite, to them it's more about the guitar solo than it is about the song...
@@tedeskidrums yeah, and Chris actually said that about himself, when he compared himself to Randy Rhoads. He said Randy's solo you could actually sing, like it was a vocal melody, and that he (Chris) was more into the technical aspects of shredding. He also said that's what made Randy's lead playing different than Eddie's. He said a lot of things that would go past many, including many professional musicians from that era. This is my view and observation. Part of what made Randy's lead playing so great is that he took those classical dark scales and played them like they were blues scales. People tend to forget that Randy was also a blues guitar player, and that at least 15% of Randy's material was rooted in blues. From the chord changes in "No Bone Movies" to "Flying High Again", along with his solos that were Randy going back and forth between dark classical scales and blues pentatonic scales. The man was a guitar genius. This is the legendary secret behind Randy's playing .. IMO. Cheers!!
Great call on the Mr. Crowley/Believer solo. Listened to the Believer solo closely and even heard an Over The Mountain riff. Grew up on Eddie and Randy, and all the other guys mentioned in this vid. Respect the riff!
Good for Chris. He deserves it. We jammed briefly right after I left Steeler in 1983, before I formed SIN. We got along really well, but I just didn't want to continue a similar path as I experienced with Malmsteen, I was looking for a more heavy 70's rock feel, more of my own roots. Chris moved on and was doing well. We both have blood-splattered instruments, his guitar and my Aria ZZB bass. 👍🏻.
Hey man…great bass playing on that Steeler album. I’m not familiar with SIN, but I thought I’d give you a shout out about Steeler. Cool songs…very raw and hard rockin. Seems almost like yesterday. Where did the time go?
@zenlandzipline Very much appreciated 🙏👍🏻. The new Steeler song Give Me Guitars or Give Me Death is up on UA-cam and the World Premier video will be on November 15th, according to Ron Keel's social media announcement. You'll love it. It's Ron, myself, Mark Edwards and Mitch Perry. We shot it in June of 2024 in L.A. The Steeler Documentary will follow afterwards. As for SIN, we were one of the biggest metal bands of L.A. in 1984, we were about to be the next big band signed, but it broke apart after the demo was finished. The demo is nothing short of incredible. Our 4 song album master demo produced by Dana Strum is finally up on UA-cam. Podcast Host Pariah Burke has re-loaded them from his UA-cam page in HD with great band photos slide show. On the Run, Don't Say Goodbye, We Got Your Rock, and Break Down the Walls That Stop the Rock can be found on his UA-cam page. Please check them out and like and share them. Same with the Steeler song. Your support is always appreciated 👍🏻
Really great interview, Chris really knows his stuff, highly intelligent and perceptive. EVH did turn guitar heroes into guitar gods. Randy was right up there, no one copied his classical style but everyone tried to copy EVH. I think Randy's is harder to do.
I am a huge fan of Randy and a bigger fan of EVH. Two completely different styles. What I will never understand is why people put Eddie in the “shredder” category. He was way beyond that shit.
Chris explains it, both guys were considered shredders because they could play fast when they needed to....the issue is when people stereotype them as shredders and dismiss them which is wrong.
Met Chris Impelliteri back at a radio expo in September 1988 I believe, and he was there to play with Graham Bonnett the first Impelliteri record. He was hanging out meeting with fans, I saw him and my buddy and I walk over to ask him about the Ozzy audition as we had read Chris tried out, but Zakk got the gig. I ultimately decided to ask Chris, ,after he lauded Zakk and said we would like him, if Zakk were as good as Randy, and Chris looked at us and said: is anyone as good as that guy...
He said what I've been saying about Eddie's playing and the band's overall sound changing to pop with Sammy. I definitely prefer Eddie's playing before Sammy. As far as randy vs Eddie they're both legends. Different styles. But legends.
Eddie's secret weapon that advanced him beyond the others was having the brother Alex. Same DNA. Same struggles. Same history in life. Alex was a good spring board for Eddie to riff across. In the studio, could you imagine the difference Alex's input was to the structure and catchy turn around that made Eddie progressive yet radio friendly? Don't go too far like rush but just enough to be unique. Randy, who was fckn excellent...was in bands that the singer was the star and the music was a hierchy, singer #1. Guitar #2. Drums #3. The melting pot of it all #4. Van Halen had a battle of all members being strong and important despite Eddie being the brightest star. Eddie and Alex molded the music together live in a practice before a singer even got near it. Eddie never played straight ahead linear like a Satriani or Malmsteen (both good in their own way) because the ego of "keeping the drums down and in the background" was not so much there and important. Of course Alex backed off and didn't overplay to keep it radio friendly. But, he did well for the circumstances. Eddie didn't always slay a guitar solo. Some songs he just kept it song worthy. Eddie always threw in some tricks and unique Easter eggs that kept fans guessing. I loved the anxiety of waiting on what Eddie was gonna come up with next! Didn't you? A new amp. A tone. A trick. A tool. A gadget. A widget. A pedal. Amazing. Loved it. Miss it. Randy Rhoads was just very very good in a more general way. Just generally good and sounded like a woodsy classical cello or violin dark rock metal composing guitarist. Very deep, very educated guitar and warm. I loved them both. Eddie just shines in more categories. If Randy had lived longer,,,.who knows?
Randy also had a brother who played drums which led to his incredible rhythm playing, Randy was great not just very very good. A lot of people think Randy shined in more categories especially songwriting and Chris alludes to where Ed had to evolve into a compostion writer whereas Randy started there
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Yes and why I agreed. I personally love to see artists evolve, I have no issue the direction EVH went. At that point he had pretty much done everything "he" could push himself to do in terms of guitar. Sadly we'll never know about RR.
Chris was right on, about Eddie’s hottest playing only being displayed on early pre WB Van Halen club era bootlegs, Eddie had really been a beast in the mid 70’s before he was muzzled by Roth & Tempelman on Van Halen 1 & more so on VH 2 & lost the fire, & went all nuts with all the two hand tapping gimmickry, that so many love him for, in shying back like his hero Eric Clapton from the double edged sword of fame & changing his entire musical direction & stagnating into a radio friendly soft pop rock direction. Eddie had previously covered Black Sabbath’s heaviest songs, like Into the Void, even before Van Halen famously blew Black Sabbath off the stages as an opening act. & Then EVH knew Randy Rhoads from the Sunset strip, & so undeniably, EVH had to at least feel some kind of way about Ozzy’s comeback, other then wrongly proclaiming that Randy was at least honest enough to admit that he learned everything he knew from Eddie, & stating how he’d only heard a just a snippet of Crazy Train in passing on a car radio once, while peeking through the hole of his treasured vinyl Peter Gabriel album?…Invariably EVH was a supremely technically gifted performer, but Randy was all that & while being an exceptionally gifted songwriter. When Ozzy afforded Randy the chance to really focus in on writing & playing 24/7, Randy Rhoads reportedly got twice as good as he been each week, then he’d been the week previously. So tragically, while we’ll never know how Randy would have evolved, had he lived through Sharon’s reckless management culture, & yet we do know the sort of stagnant underwhelming soft pop synth rock songwriter, that Eddie regressed into, where even Eddie knew the fans only wanted to hear his old greatest hits & released some old bootlegs. Van Halen should have at least given Ozzy a shot at a rematch, by having Ozzy open up for Van Halen, in 1981 for the Heavy Metal vs pop rock guitar battle, that Van Halen avoided at all costs, because Van Halen never allowed any opening bands on their tours, that ever could have challenged them. Closest we ever got to that rematch was at the U.S. fest where Jake E Lee stood in for Randy with Ozzy, on the same stage as Van Halen, which was David Lee Roth’s last show with Van Halen in its prime, before Roth quit. Inarguably Randy Rhoads’s meteoric ascension had EVH mentally shook, & if Randy had lived to put his swagger on the Black Sabbath deeper cuts from Ozzy’s Speak of the Devil album, Randy might have stolen what remained of EVH’s thunder, just like Hendrix had done with Clapton. EVH never acknowledged Les Paul’s or Jimi Hendrix’s innovative predominance, or Harvey Mandel’s instrumental guitar wizardry, because he didn’t want anyone to go looking back at Christo Redinator, The Snake or Baby Batter albums, in comparison to him, as with Jeff Beck’s Wired & Blow by Blow albums, which could challenge Eddie’s sole supremacy of the guitar. EVH instead championed Eric Clapton, & Alan Holdsworth because Clapton weren’t threats, yet Eddie tried to dismiss Jimmy Page as a sloppy guitarist, but end of the day Led Zeppelin has sold 5 times the amount of Albums that Van Halen did. Like Prince, EVH for all the undue credit they’ve been getting, for being the greatest guitarists ever, since their passings, certainly never wanted to get on any stages with the likes of players like Yngwie, SRV or Marty Friedman in their primes…🎸
@@shizzle7642 in summary, Ed lauded guys who he did not view as threats which is why Ed shat the bed on that Jas Obrecht interview with Ed. Randy should have been at the US festival to show up Eddie. Ed played drunk and high, Randy was more professional Randy's playing improved from the recording of BOO to DOAM because he had toured, was visiting clubs to pick the European way of playing, and he was taking lessons after shows.
I always thought Believer solo was very reminiscent of Crowley. Like Randy was running out of ideas. I do love Believer solo but maybe they rushed the album a bit. Really loved the outro solo of Tonight. Eddie was just killing it,every album seemed like a new technique up to Diver Down. Both iconic guitarists
the solos sound nothing alike while they may have a similar structure. I doubt a guy who was as educated and creative as Randy was running out of ideas for solos at the age of 25. It is well known the album, despite being a masterpiece, was rushed, Randy left guide solos on some songs and did not have a chance to change all of the solos. Tonight is one take .... Eddie was killing it playing and shredding writing songs. Randy was writing compositions
@ really. The first salvo of triplets is the same as is the walk down and then the climb backup and then legato climb is almost the same in both. Then the triplets on the E and B string are very reminiscent of the start of the second sole of Crowley. He basically used Crowley as a blue print.
I knew some big Randy fans who would criticise him for recycling a lot of licks, some of the stuff on his Quiet Riot albums he recycled a bit later too. 'in his defense' Diary of a Madman was recorded in a rush so I read and he didn't have time to properly lay down solos as he wanted... which might explain the 'comfort space' thing...
no Rhoads fans criticize him for taking ideas from the Quiet Riot songs he wrote and turning them into better songs. Never seen it. He took ideas and expanded on them because he knew they were not allowed to be developed with Quiet Riot. Anyone criticizing that is wrong. It is true he did not have a chance to workout and overdub a lot of the Diary solos. The outro solos were just one take guide tracks
Randy would have changed the game that Eddie had the head start on. Eddie told a lot of lies about Randy after he died. Still would have been interesting to see the two side by side getting better
I actually believe one of the differences between Randy and Eddie was Randy’s compositional ability. Eddie was a great rhythm player but his solos were not crafted to the level Randy’s were.
Eddie was a better pure player. he had more command of the nuances and subtleties of the guitar all around. better vibrato, better phrasing, better tone etc. Randy was getting there, sadly he was cut down and that was that - tremendous loss as he never matured. Eddie was pretty much a complete finished package when he came out.
Yngwie did call Chris "sloppy" a couple of decades ago. Maybe Chris is still a little pissed about that. Malmsteen is definitely an influence on Impellitteri's music. 🤣
Kind of like how Yngwie stopped mentioning Uli Jon Roth as an influence and only Blackmore. Everyone would research up Uli as the inventor of Yng's style.
I’m not going to say which one is better that will start a mess but I will say this , with Ed I always felt like it was fun weekend partying rock n roll and damn good with Randy is was deeper and darker and drew me in more I got something out of it I felt it in my heart and soul , love both of these legends but I’ll always go play RR first
With Edward (first 5 albums), I'm listening to him, but also digging the whole band and the songs. With Randy, I'm listening primarily to his performances.
John Henry Bonham was a human metronome. I describe his playing as human liquid he was so smooth even when the tsunami came during his crescendo of Moby Dick
Randy was not happy with the solo on Believer. He stated so. He knew it was very similar to the solo on Mr. Crowley. It was a scratch solo that he was working with. But they ran out of time in the studio before having to go back on the road. So Max Norman just used what he had.
@@MALoadedDiaper Ah yes. You're right. I swear he mentions, possibly in same interview, that he was not happy with the solo on Believer. I could be wrong.
@@MALoadedDiaper me too I heard little dolls, and the outro solos are of course scratch solos like Tonight and YCKRNR. But I never heard Believer is a guide solo.
Randy and Eddie... both were great (my two faves, in that order) and both were different in my opinion. Randy's playing was extremely well structured, and Eddie's playing sounded off the cuff. When I was learning to play, Randy Rhoads was my major influence? Why? He was very melodic and like I just said, well-structured. That approach to guitar just made sense to me. But both were top of the shelf guitarists and it is amazing that they both hit it big in the same era and that we got to enjoy both.
I really like Eddie when he first came out, he was amazing but when Blizzard of Oz came out, I instantly became Randy Rhoads fan. Then years later, I heard an interview with Eddie Van Halen and John Styx pretty much around the time that Randy had passed away and Eddie was pretty much saying that Randy had learned/stolen everything off of him and basically geared that whole statement towards that Randy was a clone of him which is not true not true at all and I lost a bit of respect for Eddie after that.
that was between Jas Obrecht and Ed van Halen, and yes Ed screwed up and misrepresented a quote by Randy that talked about flash and playing Eddie van Halen licks during the spotlight solo. Anyone who understands guitar, and Ed should know better knows they sound nothing alike in style or tone. Ed had to know that was a horrible comment. many have
@@제이에스-x7l No actually he did not say fact, Randy never made that comment Ed got really insecure that Randy had beaten him in a poll, and won best new guitarist. Randy said he used Eddie van Halen licks in the spotlight solo because kids like flash.... Clearly they sound nothing alike Focus on learning English before engaging with this hack EvH apologist takes
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I hear what you're saying. They had a beginning buildup, a climax, and a resolution like a good novel. They were a series of musical statements that were interconnected, not a series of licks or flashy tricks that really didn't go anywhere. A good example of this also is Jimmy Page's solos. They were finely constructed and could stand alone on their own. They took you up, then brought you back to earth. Just my $0.02.
Going into his second stage I think EVH was influenced by the progressive rock style of album 90125 by Yes that came out in 1983. The song City of Love (especially the solo) overall composition could easily be a Sammy Van Halen song in 1986. All the effects on this song outro are EVH emulating by the end of the 1980s and well into the 1990s. Compare the VH song Inside to City of Love, it is a logical guitar extension. The song Hearts though mostly a instrumental also has similar guitar effects. A lot of the progressive technique used and layout of the guitar tracks by Trevor Rabin seemed to be a template.
If I grew up around that scene in the 70's with Randy in Quiet Riot and Van Halen, I would've been the Van Halen fan. Once Rhoads was put on the map with The Blizzard of Ozz and Dairy of a Madman, I would pick Randy/Ozzy material over what EVH was doing. Songs like I Don't Know, Believer, S.A.T.O, Over the Mountain, DOAMM is just more my preferred style. The way Rhoads would slip in these little runs in between the riffs always amazed me. He would never solo just for the sake of soloing either. The solo was always the climax that he was building up to and just as memorable as the riffs themselves. With Rhoads and EVH, I never really viewed them as lead guitarists but just exceptional musicians in general. They were composers.
no question van halen was better than QR, but once Blizzard of ozz happened, Ed probably knew this was not Quiet Riot';s Randy Rhoads. Two great guitar players
The comments about not being big in America over the years makes sense. I think in America, you have to kind of shock us a little bit. Great player and great musicians in the band, but America is tough!
yeah, Randy said Eddie Van Halen was an influence (An influence, not the influence). Randy also said that everyone was influencing everyone. Randy also said that he stayed away from going to Van Halen Shows because he recognized how iconic Eddie was, and he didn't want Eddie to influence him to the point that he starts sounding like Eddie. And not doubt, Randy probably influenced Eddie to some degree... ... but Eddie would've never admitted it because it appears that Eddie despised Randy Rhoads. It appears that Eddie was definitely not a people person, and Randy was. IMO, had Randy listened to his original bass player "Kelle Garni", and fired Kevin Dubrow and replaced him with someone who wasn't so goofy, that Quiot Riot possibly could've made it. IMO, the only reason why Quiet Riot got a record deal was because of their connection to the late great, and iconic guitarist Randy Rhoads, and the explosion of Def Leppard's iconic "Pyromania" album. The songs that broke Quiet Riot were not even Quiet Riot songs, but cover songs from the band Slade, that the record company forced them to record. ...
Don’t be jealous everybody had their own way most from California anyway of music I was a big fan of Randy and a fan of Eddie Eddie didn’t teach Randy shit no disrespect neither of them they both had god gifted talents. I’m just not a guy that compares especially Randy didn’t get to live out his legacy 25 years old. Imagine if he was still here would’ve been he didn’t get on the plane. I just don’t compare. They were both unique and every way you could think I miss them both✨✨✨✨😇🎸🥁 ✨
I don't buy the idea that people would've been better had they lived out their years. It's statistical fact that the most of the greatest musical geniuses released their best material in their 20s. Love Randy, but I think he and Eddie, both, peaked in their 20s. Lived long or died young, same goes for so many - Clapton, Hendrix, Yngwie, Santana, etc. I can't think of a single guitarist who was amazing in the 20s but legit better in their 30s or 40s.
@@krazyk2033 Should've included him on the list, but IMO his later work was excellent but no more impressive and innovative than his early works. But I will admit I'm not a Beck aficionado... so I could be wrong here.
if your listening for performance and technical prowess, Eddie Van Halen is your guy. If your listening for composition and melody- Randy Rhodes, all day long.
Idk about that either, and i'ma Randy guy first. ( it was basically - you are the 5 year old younger brother of your Eddie freak older brother kinda thing - and i had no brothers). Eddie was a wonderkind. Clearly ahead of everyone when he hit. I just liked the darker classical sounding sht better. Both had amazing fire, Randy is more explosive. But Eddie came into his own sooner. Randy was paying garbage until he was thrown into the spotlight, than he rose to the occasion, and he wasn't even that into it, but the way he pulled it off it absolute legend. Eddie most obviously had massive amounts of groove. He clearly has a massive influence from Billy Gibbons, and others, but Gibbons for sure. I mean early Vh sounds very similar to ZZtop, not least they played covers of them for years.
Randy had candidly said to a few friends including his old bass player friend in Quiet Riot that he thought that George Lynch was a better guitar player than Eddie.
There are a lot of things George does that could be considered better than a lot of people. But, it's disorganized. And the song writing as well as solo composing, innovation, and groundbreaking level impact. George is a monster and just never found a good space to show what he could do. Always someone missing, whether it be the band, song he played within...or bad circumstances. I think that if George had had a brother like Alex to jam with daily and bounce rhythm ideas and structure off of he could have excelled. Alex was Eddie's secret weapon to progress. Eddie didn't have to mark ideas with a linear generic drums machine plodding along on a straight ahead beat. George missed his mark and what a monster. George did a lot of things right. He tried to be "fit" and keep his looks as long as possible. Alternative music was the final nail in the coffin for his chances.
@@technicalitems731 George talks about how he struggled to learn randy's stuff for his audition because the writing was so advanced. He asked Warren to help him figure it out.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 He said he had to learn his licks BECAUSE his students wanted to learn them. Also, when he said that he had to resort to playing similar EVH licks during his solo spot & that it killed him to do that, he referred to it as "flash" that the kids wanted to see. He was more than a "bag of tricks" like EVH was.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 He was aware of the stuff but there is a guitar lesson on youtube where Randy is teaching a song to Peter margolis and he barely knew the songs but he could listen and figure them out
WTF are you talking about . EVH had zero issues with Randy other than Randy always asking him questions when they crossed paths on the strip . Rudy Sarzo said EVH was one of Randys idols but you will never hear guitar magazines mention it as they had to lie to sell magazines by saying Randy and Eddie hated each other . NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. GW: What were Randy’s main influences? Sarzo: His influences were late-’60s, early-’70s English rock guitar players. He didn’t have any R&B influence or anything, so it’s totally English. And classical music because of his schooling. His mother had a lot to do with that, teaching him and influencing him with classical music. So by the time he got to England, he was not like a typical American guitar player who had had the influence of R&B music and country music, because he’d never played that. GW: Were there any particular players he admired? Sarzo: Yeah, let me tell you who they were. He really admired Gary Moore and Eddie Van Halen. Those were the top two guys he really, really admired.
Wow...seeing KISS on Destroyer would have been cool. Randy was fantastic and a virtuoso, though if we're being honest...his tone and vibrato kind of felt like an afterthought. With EVH, the tone was beyond anything we'd heard, his tuning made his intonation superior, his groove was probably courtesy of his dad...and if you factor in him essentially inventing the Superstrat, his combination of techniques (Mean Street, Cathedral, Spanish Fly, intro to Women in Love) all changed electric guitar for everyone. Respectfully, I think EVH was really the game-changer. Randy was a virtuoso, but I'd probably put him even a bit under Gary Moore...if we're going to get 'athletic' about it. These arguments break down. It's a great time to have been alive, to see an incredible growth in guitar.
@@HocusPocusFocus69 lol. Unique...I'll give you that...but if you even take something like the solo in I Don't Know...that first note is just kind of a fast quaver. Look, Randy was more of a classical guy, so rock vibrato may not have been his first focus. But compared to EVH's, it's just kind of nowhere close in terms of intonation and consistency. This is where i kind of take exception to Randy fans. There's kind of a 'you can't call our god out on his playing' thing now that he's passed on. But frankly, elements of his playing were just not as developed. Doesn't mean he wasn't great. But more developed and refined than EVH in terms of *playing*?? lol Come on now...
@@HocusPocusFocus69 This guy is all over my thread like beating a dead horse don’t feel bad , thinks Diary isn’t all that and he can take it or leave it , throwing Mean Streets which is good for sure, down my throat but won’t let it go that I prefer Diary , no vibrato that’s just silly , Diary and Revalation on Tribute are my favorites but don’t tell this guy he’s caught up on Mean Street
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. Diary is a great composition. Classically based...interesting. But if I'm looking at groundbreaking tone, vibrato, intonation and combinations of techniques no one had seen before...it's going to be EVH and Mean Street (and Women in Love, Spanish Fly, Cathedral, Eruption, I'm the One, etc.) Randy was great, but his fans have kind of rabidly dismissed any criticisms of where his playing was at. And honestly, vibrato, intonation, certain aspects of his tone...it's not as developed as EVH. Sorry.
Chris is one amazing player and producer. However, his management company sucks!!! He should be traveling with Satriani, Steve V, George Lynch and so forth. Terrible public relations. My point is Chris is so ridiculously talented that its criminal. It's too late now, but that's highly annoying. Pat Matheny is a legend in his own mind. ha. Seriously! Great interview my friend.
RR, was a fantastic guitarist, no doubt. He just did not have time to evolve. EVH was the best Rock guitarist the world has ever seen. He is uncopyable because of that swing he plays with that shown him to be head and shoulers above the pack. Imagine if Ed was not a total wreck of an alcoholic, look out !!! But music is there to make us feel and express ourselves. So, I do not like the Who vs. Who is better. It is how that master in his art makes you feel.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle They both were fantastic guitarists, and I am greatfull to have grown up with them in my life. They made me a better guitarist, both Ed and Randy.
I have never read anything where Randy said that he was influenced by EVH. Randy was a contemporary of EVH. They were on the 70s L.A. music scene at the same time.
@@HocusPocusFocus69 there's a pretty well-known interview where RR talks about being not-so-happy playing EVH licks in his solo...and of course, there's the George Lynch interview where he puts the whole EVH influence to rest. You sound like you need to take a deep breath. You're free to love Randy above all things. No one's stopping you.
@@HocusPocusFocus69I see you got the Pickett fanboi attacking you now , he’s all over cutting up Rhoads saying he’s a virtuoso and fantastic his vibrato and tone were afterthoughts😅 backhanded compliment people are the worst kind he’s a troll and massive Ed fanboi obviously, when he said Diary wasn’t groundbreaking and RR lacked vibrato and tone his opinions became irrelevant , this guy is really thin skinned I hope he cheers up and gets well
Eddie played his own technique and Randy was a Master Musician who understood the way music works and used every style and note. Completely different musicians.
I know a singer who sang on 1 of impellitteri albums. The man is such a great singer when we were young he did a cover of Love is on the way by Sigon Kick and he sang it better than the album he was ment for great things. His cousin was a insane guitarist, could play all styles and did. Going from Bach to Chet Attkins to Paul Gilbert. Both were just exceptionally gifted musicians. He sang on Pedal to the Metal.
No Chris, you´re not "one of the only persons", who noticed how similiar the beginnings of the solos in Crowley and Believer really are. 😂😂😂 And I guess, I´m also not one of the only persons to notice that there is basically no solo of yours in recent years without Van Halen´s old sextuplet-lick. C´mon, you can do better than that! 👍
they do not sound anything alike...they might haver a similar structure, but Believer is really about that nasty rhythm he put on it,,holy crap. I wonder if Chris has heard the isolated guitar tracks because Believer sounds like a completely different song without the bass drums and vocals
The first thing that comes to mind is style.Eddie and Randy had their own thing, even if Randy was heavily influenced by Eddie.Eddie was really influenced by Clapton ,Gibbons,Hendrix etc! tone raven
I love both Randy and Eddie. Randy has been my favorite since I saw him in concert. Randy mingled that classical with metal. Both are legends.
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Chris is a monster player! Cool interview
Here is a well informed, prepared interviewer who asks great questions/follow-ups and then allows the interviewee to speak. There is no one better on UA-cam.
Agreed
I agree, 100%. No one does it better.
Without a doubt the best
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@@vistalite Yeah, love these interviews, even with the guys I am not too familiar with.
Man these interviews are just killer. Thank you
Another great interview, thank you.
Great interview, appreciate the fascinating perspective from an exceptional player
It makes me happy to see FIB getting so much love here in the comments. This has been my favorite UA-cam channel for years.
Very happy seeing you post content again! Best rock journalism!
Chris is AWESOME!! Stand in Line is my favorite!!!
Great opine from Chris. I always saw EVH and RR as two different styled players and never felt the need to compare but rather just was thankful that I was born at the right time to watch those two especially since I was a little late for Hendrix. So many great players throughout the years but brass tacks Randy and Eddie were the guys who influenced me the most.
two totally different players two game changers
Great freaking interview. Really some fascinating stuff being talked about. I was blessed to have been one of Randy's students way back in the late seventies in So Cal, so I got to watch him absorb the whole Van Halen thing and see how it affected him. The thing about Randy was that he was his own artist. He created parts and solos that came to him through his years of experience working and living with a brilliant classically trained musician in his mother Dolores. That's where the classical influences came from, or at least that's what he always told me. As far as Van Halen goes, I think the thing I remember most is that suddenly all of Randy's students wanted to learn the solos from the first Van Halen record and so Randy would have to go and figure them out then bring them back to teach to the student asking for it. I asked him a bunch of times who his main influence or favorite player was, and over the 3 years I was there, he always had the same answer -- Mick Ronson. Not sure if this contributes anything to the conversation but there you go. RIP RR.
this was a super interview, Chris did a good job
Impressive interview with Chris , Great work..
There is no Eddie vs Randy. Randy was technically ahead of his time, but Eddie was on a different level (composing, technique, rhythm, groove, everything) that is unmatched even today.
BS-there are countless players that are absolutely his level and then some. Guitar playing is not a competive sport where you keep score or win a medal-its all up to the taste of the individual. In YOUR opinion EVH is the man but not in mine or many others............
I like Eddie. Love Randy. Randy pleases the ear better.
Imo Eddie is a better song writer. That matters most to me. But, randy is on an elite level. Way way up there. Just ina different genre.
@JohnWahlers - Um yeah….Eddie was better. Just time proven facts
Gary Moore was better than both.
I had a cassette of Impellitteri's 4 song EP when I went to college in the fall of 1989, my entire dorm floor had to listen to it at least once a day.
I also remember seeing a video or two of Animetal USA on YT, but I can't find them now.
What Chris Impellitteri said at the end about Eddie changing his guitar playing with Sammy is true, and Eddie even said so. Eddie said that one of the things that caused David Lee Roth to leave the band is that Eddied wanted the band to become "more musical" and David wanted Van Halen to remain a street rock band. .... "More musical" means exactly what Chris said. A more pop sound including more keyboards and less emphasis on guitar-god level shredding.
Eddie said he wanted to put more Keyboards in the songs, and become more musical.
What does "more musical" mean, when the David Lee Roth stuff was musical.
The only thing it could mean is a more commercial sound with a more radio accessible pop sound that would appeal to the ladies.
People tend to blame Sammy Hagar for the new Van Halen sound when Eddie repeatedly stated that he was solely responsible for the change in sound, with his brother Alex on drums backing him up on it.
This was a great interview!! Cheers!!
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I agree great interview, and what he said at the end, as you stated above, is what set aside Eddie and VH, as well as, other bands with great guitar players, it's more about the song than the guitar solo, and that's why a lot of guitar greats like Impellitterri don't make it any farther than they do because they are just the opposite, to them it's more about the guitar solo than it is about the song...
@@tedeskidrums yeah, and Chris actually said that about himself, when he compared himself to Randy Rhoads. He said Randy's solo you could actually sing, like it was a vocal melody, and that he (Chris) was more into the technical aspects of shredding.
He also said that's what made Randy's lead playing different than Eddie's.
He said a lot of things that would go past many, including many professional musicians from that era.
This is my view and observation.
Part of what made Randy's lead playing so great is that he took those classical dark scales and played them like they were blues scales.
People tend to forget that Randy was also a blues guitar player, and that at least 15% of Randy's material was rooted in blues.
From the chord changes in "No Bone Movies" to "Flying High Again", along with his solos that were Randy going back and forth between dark classical scales and blues pentatonic scales.
The man was a guitar genius.
This is the legendary secret behind Randy's playing .. IMO.
Cheers!!
Exactly. It was Ed's band and he wrote the music. End of story.
I always thought that story about Dave's desire to be gritty rock made no sense because he went full lounge act with some of his solo material.
Impellirieri is absolutely amazing musician.God speed Chris.
Great call on the Mr. Crowley/Believer solo. Listened to the Believer solo closely and even heard an Over The Mountain riff. Grew up on Eddie and Randy, and all the other guys mentioned in this vid. Respect the riff!
Great interview man 🤘🎸🤘
Good for Chris. He deserves it. We jammed briefly right after I left Steeler in 1983, before I formed SIN. We got along really well, but I just didn't want to continue a similar path as I experienced with Malmsteen, I was looking for a more heavy 70's rock feel, more of my own roots. Chris moved on and was doing well. We both have blood-splattered instruments, his guitar and my Aria ZZB bass. 👍🏻.
Hey man…great bass playing on that Steeler album. I’m not familiar with SIN, but I thought I’d give you a shout out about Steeler. Cool songs…very raw and hard rockin.
Seems almost like yesterday. Where did the time go?
@zenlandzipline
Very much appreciated 🙏👍🏻.
The new Steeler song Give Me Guitars or Give Me Death is up on UA-cam and the World Premier video will be on November 15th, according to Ron Keel's social media announcement. You'll love it. It's Ron, myself, Mark Edwards and Mitch Perry. We shot it in June of 2024 in L.A. The Steeler Documentary will follow afterwards.
As for SIN, we were one of the biggest metal bands of L.A. in 1984, we were about to be the next big band signed, but it broke apart after the demo was finished. The demo is nothing short of incredible.
Our 4 song album master demo produced by Dana Strum is finally up on UA-cam. Podcast Host Pariah Burke has re-loaded them from his UA-cam page in HD with great band photos slide show. On the Run, Don't Say Goodbye, We Got Your Rock, and Break Down the Walls That Stop the Rock can be found on his UA-cam page.
Please check them out and like and share them. Same with the Steeler song. Your support is always appreciated 👍🏻
Really great interview, Chris really knows his stuff, highly intelligent and perceptive.
EVH did turn guitar heroes into guitar gods. Randy was right up there, no one copied his classical style but everyone tried to copy EVH. I think Randy's is harder to do.
It's not
Best most insightful interviews without just regurgitating information and stories we've all already heard.
this was a really good, great interview and Chris chose his words wisely
That was excellent.
I am a huge fan of Randy and a bigger fan of EVH. Two completely different styles. What I will never understand is why people put Eddie in the “shredder” category. He was way beyond that shit.
he’s not really that beyond it in reality. still great though
100% a different level
Chris explains it, both guys were considered shredders because they could play fast when they needed to....the issue is when people stereotype them as shredders and dismiss them which is wrong.
@@helio1055 he is way beyond being a "shredder"
Met Chris Impelliteri back at a radio expo in September 1988 I believe, and he was there to play with Graham Bonnett the first Impelliteri record.
He was hanging out meeting with fans, I saw him and my buddy and I walk over to ask him about the Ozzy audition as we had read Chris tried out, but Zakk got the gig. I ultimately decided to ask Chris, ,after he lauded Zakk and said we would like him, if Zakk were as good as Randy, and Chris looked at us and said: is anyone as good as that guy...
Great interview!
He said what I've been saying about Eddie's playing and the band's overall sound changing to pop with Sammy. I definitely prefer Eddie's playing before Sammy. As far as randy vs Eddie they're both legends. Different styles. But legends.
two all time greats for sure
Great interview, thanks!!
Ed changed the game for rock music. RR recorded metal anthems
Agree
well put and you could read in between the lines when Chris says Ed evolved into a composer, whereas Randy already was a composer
Diary of a Madman is the stairway to heaven of metal
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle 😂😂😂
Eddie's secret weapon that advanced him beyond the others was having the brother Alex. Same DNA. Same struggles. Same history in life. Alex was a good spring board for Eddie to riff across. In the studio, could you imagine the difference Alex's input was to the structure and catchy turn around that made Eddie progressive yet radio friendly? Don't go too far like rush but just enough to be unique. Randy, who was fckn excellent...was in bands that the singer was the star and the music was a hierchy, singer #1. Guitar #2. Drums #3. The melting pot of it all #4. Van Halen had a battle of all members being strong and important despite Eddie being the brightest star. Eddie and Alex molded the music together live in a practice before a singer even got near it. Eddie never played straight ahead linear like a Satriani or Malmsteen (both good in their own way) because the ego of "keeping the drums down and in the background" was not so much there and important. Of course Alex backed off and didn't overplay to keep it radio friendly. But, he did well for the circumstances. Eddie didn't always slay a guitar solo. Some songs he just kept it song worthy. Eddie always threw in some tricks and unique Easter eggs that kept fans guessing. I loved the anxiety of waiting on what Eddie was gonna come up with next! Didn't you? A new amp. A tone. A trick. A tool. A gadget. A widget. A pedal. Amazing. Loved it. Miss it. Randy Rhoads was just very very good in a more general way. Just generally good and sounded like a woodsy classical cello or violin dark rock metal composing guitarist. Very deep, very educated guitar and warm. I loved them both. Eddie just shines in more categories. If Randy had lived longer,,,.who knows?
Randy also had a brother who played drums which led to his incredible rhythm playing,
Randy was great not just very very good.
A lot of people think Randy shined in more categories especially songwriting and Chris alludes to where Ed had to evolve into a compostion writer whereas Randy started there
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@@제이에스-x7l why the effeminate emojis?
Looking forward to the new record, always liked Chris a lot. I hope it slaps.
Thank u
Always loved Chris’s playing, bought the tape with an awesome remake of,” Since you’ve been gone.” Looking for it now.
Totally agree on EVH's evolution and what might have happened to RR.
I think he suggested EvH evolved into a composer whereas Randy was a composer who might head more into instrumentals
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Yes and why I agreed. I personally love to see artists evolve, I have no issue the direction EVH went. At that point he had pretty much done everything "he" could push himself to do in terms of guitar. Sadly we'll never know about RR.
@@TheTN24sadly😢
The guy changed the game for rock music in his first album. This is bullshit.
@@user-qr7ee2cp4y Ed's amp tone did not really change metal...hard rock
I love the way Chis attacks the first note at the beginning of his lead breaks
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Eddie changed because, as he stated, he had a singer who could actually sing.
right he could expand his writing
wow, the voice is softer and less yelling/compressed. Much better, imo.
Chris was right on, about Eddie’s hottest playing only being displayed on early pre WB Van Halen club era bootlegs, Eddie had really been a beast in the mid 70’s before he was muzzled by Roth & Tempelman on Van Halen 1 & more so on VH 2 & lost the fire, & went all nuts with all the two hand tapping gimmickry, that so many love him for, in shying back like his hero Eric Clapton from the double edged sword of fame & changing his entire musical direction & stagnating into a radio friendly soft pop rock direction. Eddie had previously covered Black Sabbath’s heaviest songs, like Into the Void, even before Van Halen famously blew Black Sabbath off the stages as an opening act. & Then EVH knew Randy Rhoads from the Sunset strip, & so undeniably, EVH had to at least feel some kind of way about Ozzy’s comeback, other then wrongly proclaiming that Randy was at least honest enough to admit that he learned everything he knew from Eddie, & stating how he’d only heard a just a snippet of Crazy Train in passing on a car radio once, while peeking through the hole of his treasured vinyl Peter Gabriel album?…Invariably EVH was a supremely technically gifted performer, but Randy was all that & while being an exceptionally gifted songwriter. When Ozzy afforded Randy the chance to really focus in on writing & playing 24/7, Randy Rhoads reportedly got twice as good as he been each week, then he’d been the week previously. So tragically, while we’ll never know how Randy would have evolved, had he lived through Sharon’s reckless management culture, & yet we do know the sort of stagnant underwhelming soft pop synth rock songwriter, that Eddie regressed into, where even Eddie knew the fans only wanted to hear his old greatest hits & released some old bootlegs. Van Halen should have at least given Ozzy a shot at a rematch, by having Ozzy open up for Van Halen, in 1981 for the Heavy Metal vs pop rock guitar battle, that Van Halen avoided at all costs, because Van Halen never allowed any opening bands on their tours, that ever could have challenged them. Closest we ever got to that rematch was at the U.S. fest where Jake E Lee stood in for Randy with Ozzy, on the same stage as Van Halen, which was David Lee Roth’s last show with Van Halen in its prime, before Roth quit. Inarguably Randy Rhoads’s meteoric ascension had EVH mentally shook, & if Randy had lived to put his swagger on the Black Sabbath deeper cuts from Ozzy’s Speak of the Devil album, Randy might have stolen what remained of EVH’s thunder, just like Hendrix had done with Clapton. EVH never acknowledged Les Paul’s or Jimi Hendrix’s innovative predominance, or Harvey Mandel’s instrumental guitar wizardry, because he didn’t want anyone to go looking back at Christo Redinator, The Snake or Baby Batter albums, in comparison to him, as with Jeff Beck’s Wired & Blow by Blow albums, which could challenge Eddie’s sole supremacy of the guitar. EVH instead championed Eric Clapton, & Alan Holdsworth because Clapton weren’t threats, yet Eddie tried to dismiss Jimmy Page as a sloppy guitarist, but end of the day Led Zeppelin has sold 5 times the amount of Albums that Van Halen did. Like Prince, EVH for all the undue credit they’ve been getting, for being the greatest guitarists ever, since their passings, certainly never wanted to get on any stages with the likes of players like Yngwie, SRV or Marty Friedman in their primes…🎸
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....but Sabbath replaced Ozzy with Dio, whereas Van Halen replaced Roth with Hagar. You gotta laugh!
@@budgiemcleod4443 what's the laugh two upgrades vocally
@@shizzle7642 in summary, Ed lauded guys who he did not view as threats which is why Ed shat the bed on that Jas Obrecht interview with Ed.
Randy should have been at the US festival to show up Eddie. Ed played drunk and high, Randy was more professional
Randy's playing improved from the recording of BOO to DOAM because he had toured, was visiting clubs to pick the European way of playing, and he was taking lessons after shows.
I always thought Believer solo was very reminiscent of Crowley. Like Randy was running out of ideas. I do love Believer solo but maybe they rushed the album a bit. Really loved the outro solo of Tonight. Eddie was just killing it,every album seemed like a new technique up to Diver Down. Both iconic guitarists
the solos sound nothing alike while they may have a similar structure. I doubt a guy who was as educated and creative as Randy was running out of ideas for solos at the age of 25.
It is well known the album, despite being a masterpiece, was rushed, Randy left guide solos on some songs and did not have a chance to change all of the solos. Tonight is one take .... Eddie was killing it playing and shredding writing songs. Randy was writing compositions
@ really. The first salvo of triplets is the same as is the walk down and then the climb backup and then legato climb is almost the same in both. Then the triplets on the E and B string are very reminiscent of the start of the second sole of Crowley. He basically used Crowley as a blue print.
I knew some big Randy fans who would criticise him for recycling a lot of licks, some of the stuff on his Quiet Riot albums he recycled a bit later too.
'in his defense' Diary of a Madman was recorded in a rush so I read and he didn't have time to properly lay down solos as he wanted... which might explain the 'comfort space' thing...
no Rhoads fans criticize him for taking ideas from the Quiet Riot songs he wrote and turning them into better songs. Never seen it. He took ideas and expanded on them because he knew they were not allowed to be developed with Quiet Riot.
Anyone criticizing that is wrong. It is true he did not have a chance to workout and overdub a lot of the Diary solos. The outro solos were just one take guide tracks
Ed recycled riffs, too
@@Plisken65 that is documented
That album with Graham Bonnet doin Stand in Line was just beyond!
that album is pretty good awesome song for sure
Randy would have changed the game that Eddie had the head start on. Eddie told a lot of lies about Randy after he died. Still would have been interesting to see the two side by side getting better
That's one of the things that made me like Ed less, I think he felt threatened by Randy, and he had a big ego sometimes.
@@ScottyBrockway Yep. The fact that he would lie about a dead guy tells you who he thought was better.
There are two solos in Mr Crowley and, yes, the solo in Believer is an abbreviated version of both together.
Deadly man sounds like a killer band 🤘
I am so sick of this one vs that one...
Wow, I forgot all about Impellitteri!
I actually believe one of the differences between Randy and Eddie was Randy’s compositional ability. Eddie was a great rhythm player but his solos were not crafted to the level Randy’s were.
Eddie was a better pure player. he had more command of the nuances and subtleties of the guitar all around. better vibrato, better phrasing, better tone etc. Randy was getting there, sadly he was cut down and that was that - tremendous loss as he never matured. Eddie was pretty much a complete finished package when he came out.
@@robertstan2349 perfectly stated, bro
No mention of Yngwie. Not an influence at all I guess 😂
Yngwie did call Chris "sloppy" a couple of decades ago. Maybe Chris is still a little pissed about that. Malmsteen is definitely an influence on Impellitteri's music. 🤣
Kind of like how Yngwie stopped mentioning Uli Jon Roth as an influence and only Blackmore.
Everyone would research up Uli as the inventor of Yng's style.
He didn't ask about Yngwie. I know Chris was mentioning influences, and didn't bring up Yngwie, but he really wasnt part of the conversation.
Yngwie is a B leaguer
I’m not going to say which one is better that will start a mess but I will say this , with Ed I always felt like it was fun weekend partying rock n roll and damn good with Randy is was deeper and darker and drew me in more I got something out of it I felt it in my heart and soul , love both of these legends but I’ll always go play RR first
With Edward (first 5 albums), I'm listening to him, but also digging the whole band and the songs. With Randy, I'm listening primarily to his performances.
@@acorn-yy1giLove listening to RR isolated guitar and Diary is my favorite all time album
The isolated guitar from Mean Street is untouchable on every level. Tone, groove, vibrato. Sets the gold standard.
@@PickettMusic I much prefer Rhoads isolated on Diary of a Madman , thank you very much
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. It's fine. But the tone, vibrato and groove are nowhere near as groundbreaking as MS.
I’m the one was ground breaking. Nothing like it at the time.
I would argue that John Bonham was a fairly technical drummer.
John Henry Bonham was a human metronome. I describe his playing as human liquid he was so smooth even when the tsunami came during his crescendo of Moby Dick
Tremendous. Just tremendous. 🤘🏻🇺🇸🎸🔥
Touring the states !!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!
Randy was not happy with the solo on Believer. He stated so. He knew it was very similar to the solo on Mr. Crowley. It was a scratch solo that he was working with. But they ran out of time in the studio before having to go back on the road. So Max Norman just used what he had.
I heard him mention Little Dolls as the track having the "scratch tack", not Believer. He says that at the clinic he gave at Music City.
@@MALoadedDiaper Ah yes. You're right. I swear he mentions, possibly in same interview, that he was not happy with the solo on Believer. I could be wrong.
Is Believer a guide solo? I do not think so, we know the outro solos are. Little dolls a scratch solo.
@@MALoadedDiaper me too I heard little dolls, and the outro solos are of course scratch solos like Tonight and YCKRNR. But I never heard Believer is a guide solo.
Interesting, I follow Chris on Media Platforms.
And who is the king of metal / guitar today? A: Michael Romeo
who?
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle There is this thing called... the internet.
Randy all the way 🙏🎸
Randy and Eddie... both were great (my two faves, in that order) and both were different in my opinion. Randy's playing was extremely well structured, and Eddie's playing sounded off the cuff. When I was learning to play, Randy Rhoads was my major influence? Why? He was very melodic and like I just said, well-structured. That approach to guitar just made sense to me. But both were top of the shelf guitarists and it is amazing that they both hit it big in the same era and that we got to enjoy both.
I really like Eddie when he first came out, he was amazing but when Blizzard of Oz came out, I instantly became Randy Rhoads fan. Then years later, I heard an interview with Eddie Van Halen and John Styx pretty much around the time that Randy had passed away and Eddie was pretty much saying that Randy had learned/stolen everything off of him and basically geared that whole statement towards that Randy was a clone of him which is not true not true at all and I lost a bit of respect for Eddie after that.
Edward say fact
that was between Jas Obrecht and Ed van Halen, and yes Ed screwed up and misrepresented a quote by Randy that talked about flash and playing Eddie van Halen licks during the spotlight solo.
Anyone who understands guitar, and Ed should know better knows they sound nothing alike in style or tone. Ed had to know that was a horrible comment.
many have
@@제이에스-x7l No actually he did not say fact, Randy never made that comment Ed got really insecure that Randy had beaten him in a poll, and won best new guitarist. Randy said he used Eddie van Halen licks in the spotlight solo because kids like flash....
Clearly they sound nothing alike
Focus on learning English before engaging with this hack EvH apologist takes
yes Randy dying too young was a problem..
Shotgun messiah were on relativity as well
I agree with his take on Randy's lyricism.
people have often said Randy's solos were songs within songs and I think that is the same concept of a lyrical solo
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I hear what you're saying. They had a beginning buildup, a climax, and a resolution like a good novel. They were a series of musical statements that were interconnected, not a series of licks or flashy tricks that really didn't go anywhere. A good example of this also is Jimmy Page's solos. They were finely constructed and could stand alone on their own. They took you up, then brought you back to earth. Just my $0.02.
Going into his second stage I think EVH was influenced by the progressive rock style of album 90125 by Yes that came out in 1983.
The song City of Love (especially the solo) overall composition could easily be a Sammy Van Halen song in 1986.
All the effects on this song outro are EVH emulating by the end of the 1980s and well into the 1990s.
Compare the VH song Inside to City of Love, it is a logical guitar extension.
The song Hearts though mostly a instrumental also has similar guitar effects.
A lot of the progressive technique used and layout of the guitar tracks by Trevor Rabin seemed to be a template.
Dude seems super cool
Same thing I thought about Chris.
More like super arrogant.
@dmitryowens More than Yngwie?
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No one's that arrogant.
Great stuff. I'm calling B.S. on Chris saying he's the only one who noticed the similarities between Crowley and Believer, haha. It's too obvious.
no it's not they sound nothing alike...I never heard Believer and thought Mr Crowley the structure is similar notes very different
Randy would have probably done classical guitar
no doubt...or Jazz
He definitely was ready to move on with teaching and getting the degree. He might have been done being a rock guitarist for good. He was great.
"Mother Revelation"-- Revelation (Mother Earth)
he did miss that song title....but still an awesome interview
If I grew up around that scene in the 70's with Randy in Quiet Riot and Van Halen, I would've been the Van Halen fan. Once Rhoads was put on the map with The Blizzard of Ozz and Dairy of a Madman, I would pick Randy/Ozzy material over what EVH was doing. Songs like I Don't Know, Believer, S.A.T.O, Over the Mountain, DOAMM is just more my preferred style. The way Rhoads would slip in these little runs in between the riffs always amazed me. He would never solo just for the sake of soloing either. The solo was always the climax that he was building up to and just as memorable as the riffs themselves. With Rhoads and EVH, I never really viewed them as lead guitarists but just exceptional musicians in general. They were composers.
no question van halen was better than QR, but once Blizzard of ozz happened, Ed probably knew this was not Quiet Riot';s Randy Rhoads. Two great guitar players
GOOD GOD ... LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE ARMS !!!
The comments about not being big in America over the years makes sense. I think in America, you have to kind of shock us a little bit. Great player and great musicians in the band, but America is tough!
Eddie Van Halen was held back by constantly wanting to be on pop radio!
and not being a very good song writer. Notice they stopped doing cover songs when Hagar joined the band.
yeah, Randy said Eddie Van Halen was an influence (An influence, not the influence). Randy also said that everyone was influencing everyone. Randy also said that he stayed away from going to Van Halen Shows because he recognized how iconic Eddie was, and he didn't want Eddie to influence him to the point that he starts sounding like Eddie. And not doubt, Randy probably influenced Eddie to some degree...
... but Eddie would've never admitted it because it appears that Eddie despised Randy Rhoads.
It appears that Eddie was definitely not a people person, and Randy was.
IMO, had Randy listened to his original bass player "Kelle Garni", and fired Kevin Dubrow and replaced him with someone who wasn't so goofy, that Quiot Riot possibly could've made it.
IMO, the only reason why Quiet Riot got a record deal was because of their connection to the late great, and iconic guitarist Randy Rhoads, and the explosion of Def Leppard's iconic "Pyromania" album.
The songs that broke Quiet Riot were not even Quiet Riot songs, but cover songs from the band Slade, that the record company forced them to record.
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Don’t be jealous everybody had their own way most from California anyway of music I was a big fan of Randy and a fan of Eddie Eddie didn’t teach Randy shit no disrespect neither of them they both had god gifted talents. I’m just not a guy that compares especially Randy didn’t get to live out his legacy 25 years old. Imagine if he was still here would’ve been he didn’t get on the plane. I just don’t compare. They were both unique and every way you could think I miss them both✨✨✨✨😇🎸🥁
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I don't buy the idea that people would've been better had they lived out their years. It's statistical fact that the most of the greatest musical geniuses released their best material in their 20s. Love Randy, but I think he and Eddie, both, peaked in their 20s. Lived long or died young, same goes for so many - Clapton, Hendrix, Yngwie, Santana, etc. I can't think of a single guitarist who was amazing in the 20s but legit better in their 30s or 40s.
@@sooperdupeJeff Beck
@@krazyk2033 Should've included him on the list, but IMO his later work was excellent but no more impressive and innovative than his early works. But I will admit I'm not a Beck aficionado... so I could be wrong here.
@@sooperdupehe released Blow by Blow when he was 30, and I wouldn’t say he reached his peak as a guitarist yet at that point.
@@krazyk2033 So, just a matter of months from under 30. Okay.
Yeah I agree what about malmsteen influence guy...he tottally rips of the yngeie vibe when he came out.lets see what he has to give us😅
Randy tripled tracked MR Crowley....double tracking is for mortals
if your listening for performance and technical prowess, Eddie Van Halen is your guy. If your listening for composition and melody- Randy Rhodes, all day long.
I lost all respect for EVH after his low class comments about Randy, it really made him look small and insecure
Randy Rhoads was incredible. EVH WAS JUST FLASH.
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Not sure about that but Randy had a lot of depth at a very young age. Shame he wasn't around to expand on what he started.
Idk about that either, and i'ma Randy guy first. ( it was basically - you are the 5 year old younger brother of your Eddie freak older brother kinda thing - and i had no brothers). Eddie was a wonderkind. Clearly ahead of everyone when he hit. I just liked the darker classical sounding sht better. Both had amazing fire, Randy is more explosive. But Eddie came into his own sooner. Randy was paying garbage until he was thrown into the spotlight, than he rose to the occasion, and he wasn't even that into it, but the way he pulled it off it absolute legend. Eddie most obviously had massive amounts of groove. He clearly has a massive influence from Billy Gibbons, and others, but Gibbons for sure. I mean early Vh sounds very similar to ZZtop, not least they played covers of them for years.
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Randy had candidly said to a few friends including his old bass player friend in Quiet Riot that he thought that George Lynch was a better guitar player than Eddie.
There are a lot of things George does that could be considered better than a lot of people. But, it's disorganized. And the song writing as well as solo composing, innovation, and groundbreaking level impact. George is a monster and just never found a good space to show what he could do. Always someone missing, whether it be the band, song he played within...or bad circumstances. I think that if George had had a brother like Alex to jam with daily and bounce rhythm ideas and structure off of he could have excelled. Alex was Eddie's secret weapon to progress. Eddie didn't have to mark ideas with a linear generic drums machine plodding along on a straight ahead beat. George missed his mark and what a monster. George did a lot of things right. He tried to be "fit" and keep his looks as long as possible. Alternative music was the final nail in the coffin for his chances.
no he said that out of getting back at the EvH apologists. He never believed that
@@technicalitems731 George talks about how he struggled to learn randy's stuff for his audition because the writing was so advanced. He asked Warren to help him figure it out.
WE LUV AND MISS Y0U RANDY AND EDWARD!! WE WERE BLESSED T0 HAVE YOU!!
Randy never said in any interview that he was influenced by Eddie.
He said he HAD TO learn Eddie’s playing because that’s what his students wanted to learn.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 He said he had to learn his licks BECAUSE his students wanted to learn them. Also, when he said that he had to resort to playing similar EVH licks during his solo spot & that it killed him to do that, he referred to it as "flash" that the kids wanted to see. He was more than a "bag of tricks" like EVH was.
He did say in the guitar seminar but that was him being humble. People wrongly infer that meant Ed influenced his style and playing, not true
@@isaiahmarquez9717 He was aware of the stuff but there is a guitar lesson on youtube where Randy is teaching a song to Peter margolis and he barely knew the songs but he could listen and figure them out
It’s a shame that EVH was so insecure that he treated RR like shit. They both were amazing in their own way. It wasn’t/isn’t a competition
WTF are you talking about . EVH had zero issues with Randy other than Randy always asking him questions when they crossed paths on the strip . Rudy Sarzo said EVH was one of Randys idols but you will never hear guitar magazines mention it as they had to lie to sell magazines by saying Randy and Eddie hated each other . NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
GW: What were Randy’s main influences?
Sarzo: His influences were late-’60s, early-’70s English rock guitar players. He didn’t have any R&B influence or anything, so it’s totally English. And classical music because of his schooling. His mother had a lot to do with that, teaching him and influencing him with classical music. So by the time he got to England, he was not like a typical American guitar player who had had the influence of R&B music and country music, because he’d never played that.
GW: Were there any particular players he admired?
Sarzo: Yeah, let me tell you who they were. He really admired Gary Moore and Eddie Van Halen. Those were the top two guys he really, really admired.
Ya know I get it but both were in their late teens... hide-site is always 20/20.
@@6fingers611 very true
Wow...seeing KISS on Destroyer would have been cool. Randy was fantastic and a virtuoso, though if we're being honest...his tone and vibrato kind of felt like an afterthought. With EVH, the tone was beyond anything we'd heard, his tuning made his intonation superior, his groove was probably courtesy of his dad...and if you factor in him essentially inventing the Superstrat, his combination of techniques (Mean Street, Cathedral, Spanish Fly, intro to Women in Love) all changed electric guitar for everyone.
Respectfully, I think EVH was really the game-changer. Randy was a virtuoso, but I'd probably put him even a bit under Gary Moore...if we're going to get 'athletic' about it. These arguments break down. It's a great time to have been alive, to see an incredible growth in guitar.
Are you kidding me?!?
Randy's vibrato was very unique.
@@HocusPocusFocus69 lol. Unique...I'll give you that...but if you even take something like the solo in I Don't Know...that first note is just kind of a fast quaver. Look, Randy was more of a classical guy, so rock vibrato may not have been his first focus. But compared to EVH's, it's just kind of nowhere close in terms of intonation and consistency. This is where i kind of take exception to Randy fans. There's kind of a 'you can't call our god out on his playing' thing now that he's passed on. But frankly, elements of his playing were just not as developed. Doesn't mean he wasn't great. But more developed and refined than EVH in terms of *playing*?? lol Come on now...
@@HocusPocusFocus69 This guy is all over my thread like beating a dead horse don’t feel bad , thinks Diary isn’t all that and he can take it or leave it , throwing Mean Streets which is good for sure, down my throat but won’t let it go that I prefer Diary , no vibrato that’s just silly , Diary and Revalation on Tribute are my favorites but don’t tell this guy he’s caught up on Mean Street
@@HocusPocusFocus69 He obviously doesn’t care much for Rhoads you can see the backhanded compliments
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. Diary is a great composition. Classically based...interesting. But if I'm looking at groundbreaking tone, vibrato, intonation and combinations of techniques no one had seen before...it's going to be EVH and Mean Street (and Women in Love, Spanish Fly, Cathedral, Eruption, I'm the One, etc.)
Randy was great, but his fans have kind of rabidly dismissed any criticisms of where his playing was at. And honestly, vibrato, intonation, certain aspects of his tone...it's not as developed as EVH. Sorry.
Chris is one amazing player and producer. However, his management company sucks!!! He should be traveling with Satriani, Steve V, George Lynch and so forth. Terrible public relations. My point is Chris is so ridiculously talented that its criminal. It's too late now, but that's highly annoying. Pat Matheny is a legend in his own mind. ha. Seriously! Great interview my friend.
Nobody like Mr Adam Bloom!! Who are you!!!
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RR, was a fantastic guitarist, no doubt. He just did not have time to evolve. EVH was the best Rock guitarist the world has ever seen. He is uncopyable because of that swing he plays with that shown him to be head and shoulers above the pack. Imagine if Ed was not a total wreck of an alcoholic, look out !!! But music is there to make us feel and express ourselves. So, I do not like the Who vs. Who is better. It is how that master in his art makes you feel.
@@waverlyking6045 He killed himself basically, via vodka.
he was more evolved as Chris implies, Randy was already a composer Ed had to evolve into that
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle They both were fantastic guitarists, and I am greatfull to have grown up with them in my life. They made me a better guitarist, both Ed and Randy.
I have never read anything where Randy said that he was influenced by EVH.
Randy was a contemporary of EVH.
They were on the 70s L.A. music scene at the same time.
George Lynch's interview pretty much puts this to rest...
@@PickettMusic Show me an interview where Randy ever said that he was influenced by EVH...fanboi.
@@HocusPocusFocus69 there's a pretty well-known interview where RR talks about being not-so-happy playing EVH licks in his solo...and of course, there's the George Lynch interview where he puts the whole EVH influence to rest.
You sound like you need to take a deep breath. You're free to love Randy above all things. No one's stopping you.
@@HocusPocusFocus69I see you got the Pickett fanboi attacking you now , he’s all over cutting up Rhoads saying he’s a virtuoso and fantastic his vibrato and tone were afterthoughts😅 backhanded compliment people are the worst kind he’s a troll and massive Ed fanboi obviously, when he said Diary wasn’t groundbreaking and RR lacked vibrato and tone his opinions became irrelevant , this guy is really thin skinned I hope he cheers up and gets well
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. aw....you guys feel attacked?
Over a Randy Rhoads comment about his vibrato?😆😆
Eddie played his own technique and Randy was a Master Musician who understood the way music works and used every style and note. Completely different musicians.
Yeah, every style and note, he was very good at Bossa Nova and Zouk. 🤣🤣🤣
I know a singer who sang on 1 of impellitteri albums. The man is such a great singer when we were young he did a cover of Love is on the way by Sigon Kick and he sang it better than the album he was ment for great things. His cousin was a insane guitarist, could play all styles and did. Going from Bach to Chet Attkins to Paul Gilbert. Both were just exceptionally gifted musicians. He sang on Pedal to the Metal.
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Curtis skelton! Killer album. One of my favs. And he is a great singer.
Randy always had more dimension. He was musically iridescent, like a musical aurora borealis.
No Chris, you´re not "one of the only persons", who noticed how similiar the beginnings of the solos in Crowley and Believer really are. 😂😂😂
And I guess, I´m also not one of the only persons to notice that there is basically no solo of yours in recent years without Van Halen´s old sextuplet-lick.
C´mon, you can do better than that! 👍
they do not sound anything alike...they might haver a similar structure, but Believer is really about that nasty rhythm he put on it,,holy crap.
I wonder if Chris has heard the isolated guitar tracks because Believer sounds like a completely different song without the bass drums and vocals
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle if you can´t hear, that the 1st 3 bars of the solos in Crowley and Believer are VERY similiar, I can´t help you.
Chris who? 😂
Eddie could shred, but Randy wrote masterpieces.
Randy had help from Bob Daisley and borrowed some parts from other musicians, like Leo Brouwer, for example.
What song?😂 masterbation😊
Randy was a better player just because of personality
@@RandyMauck What? Could you develop a bit?
and I think chris implies that saying Ed evolved into writing compositions,
I always noticed the solo from Believer is basically the same as the one from Me. Crowley.
Only the first 4 meters.......
they sound nothing alike they are similar in structure
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Ok, I should've said they start off the same.
Isn't the song Revelation (Mother Earth)? Stop saying "Right" every other comment.
yes it is not Mother Earth
The first thing that comes to mind is style.Eddie and Randy had their own thing, even if Randy was heavily influenced by Eddie.Eddie was really influenced by Clapton ,Gibbons,Hendrix etc! tone raven
Randy was not influenced by Ed..that's obvious He sounds nothing like him played nothing like him.
Randy wasn’t around long enough to become stale and repetitive.
It is small clubs where you play in Japan. Not arenas.
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Have you heard of this place in Japan called BUDOKAN?
I dont know about Chris Impelliteri . He didnt make the Rolling Stone list. 🙄 🙄
Impelliteri is an even more ridiculous version of Yngwie.