Camshaft & Crankshaft Timing Marks on Kohler Command Engines
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2012
- In this video I show you the Camshaft & Crankshaft Timming Marks on a Kohler Command Engine. The engine in the video is a 12.5 HP but the same procedure will apply to many other Kohler engines.
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I have this exact engine on a 36" Snapper walk behind mower. Wasn't sure how to line the balance shaft back up with the crankshaft after disassembly. Thanks for taking the time to post this!
Nice video. Watching your videos has made me very interested on working on my own 2-cycle engines. Thanks!
very clear illustration and helpful too
Dony you are great !!!
I learned A LOT from your videos.
Thanks and cheers from Romania ! :)
Thank you! Glad I checked. I had the balance shaft off by one gear - I didn't realize that it had marks on it after I accidentally removed it. All lined up. Thanks Dony!
If you dont know how to command an engine without marks,,, be very careful.The advise is valid to some car mechanics too.
IF it gts wrong you have to call someone, and pay.
What??? Learn how to spell and use proper grammar.
@@raymondjiii
I dont have even to speak your language.
Take the pills yo fukin imbecile.
They should have deleted the marks, so imbeciles would learn fast, dont touch in engines you dont know.
Thank you for this video it helped me put my engine back together
very helpful thx. my connecting rod blew and took out the cam shaft as well so lots of things no longer aligned
another good learning episode. Thank you
Danny boy what's the problem if it has no compression with this type of engine.
I know that this engine has a hydraulic lifter on it
How do I set the cam gear timing on a 2003 20hp dual cam kohler pro please?
this may be a dumb question but are their any new riding mowers that have the kohler Command........
good instructional video. I have a Kohler CH22, what is the trick in removing the existing old crankshaft and what is the part number for the better more stronger gear?
hey dony i have a kohler command cv493 on the balance shaft i see no marks does that matter on this model.also the oil pan does not use a gasket what sealant should i use for the oil pan
hi dony i am changing my kohler command pro on my vermeer bc 625 wood chipper. should you have any head up on installation or break ins?
Don, suppose this engine was a two cylinder engine and now you need to line up two cam shafts. Is the procedure the same except there is no balance shaft?
hey Dony i have the same motor in this video and one of my valves is clicking, tor down the motor and my camshaft has a sping looking thing that moves back an forth. is this normal or is the camshaft bad. please hit me back up, thanks
Not sure if my post to you went through. I have a JD LX173 with a Koehler Command 15hp with a compression release issue. It gets stuck until I go to WOT but comes back on at idle. Do you have a video of the fix or a suggestion?
Quick question! Do you know anywhere that identifies or explains the meaning for the 4 digit spec number that follows the Kohler model number on the CH or ECH series engine?
where can i find a seal for a 14 hp kohler command engine just like that one. I looked everywhere cant find one
maybe replacing the compression release mechanism, why do you think that is it?
Do know how to time an overhead cam engine?
Does anyone knows how much abridge cost to replace a Craftsman 14.5 HP kohler command transmission? Thank you
I have a 11 hp vertical shaft Briggs. When turning the flywheel it makes a knock. The engines has 12 hours on it and I re torqued the bolts. Is that normal and it has a truck load of compression. Can't turn it by self past compression.
I have a Kohler Command Pro 224cc single cylinder where the camshaft gear is marked however there's nothing marked on the crankshaft gear. When I removed the crank case cover, the cam shaft came with the side cover. So I have no reference whatsoever. I can always remover the rocker cover to get the valve timing close however I still risk being a tooth out. Any suggestions? My eyes aren't what they used to be ... had the wife come and take a look and she picked up the faint mark I was looking for.
Thanks for the info, I have never worked on those before so i appreciate the info
you're welcome
just the info i needed👍 thank you!
Hey dony i need a plug gap for a robin ey15 engine for a generator , do you know what it is ?
greetings from Canada!
Dony I went to start my mtd lawn tractor with a b&s 15.5 engine an it would not crank so I pulled off the air filter an my intake pipe had gas in it..any idea why that would happen... thank you..
@donyboy73 what would cause a chain on a chainsaw to become slack not long after i tighten it? worn out chain or bar maybe.... thanks in advance
Good info! Thanks dony!!
Do most kohler command/vtwin's have similar markings?
donyboy i have a 17hp kohler command it backfires through the carburetor back and won't start the OHV has no adjustment like the briggs any thoughts
probably the valves need to be adjusted, sometimes the timing chain can make a similar noise
Hey donyboy great video. I was just wondering I have a 2002 Honda XR250R. It used to run well and still does but now it has a metallic ringing noise in the cylinder head. My friend who know's dirt bikes better than me says its sounds like the valves are out of timing. What do you think is the problem with it?
Thanks,
Eric
Hey donnyboy I've got a 15 ho kohler command i had to pull tge timing rod that goes to carb and down to spring can you help me I need to reset timing how do you reset it
thanks for watching
Hey dony, you're the man! I noticed what looks like the magnet/stator(?) on the crankshaft, which obviously turns at the same speed. Does this mean that spark is generated every time the piston reaches the top of it's stroke? ie between exhaust and intake stroke.
Thanks.
I have a Kohler Command 17.5 that backfires trying to start, I checked the flywheel key and it was okay. Before this it was hard starting and sometimes backfired. It would run until warmed up in a low throttle position. Timing seems to be the problem. Ideas welcome.
Like the wannabe wallaby I have a question about the ignition timing. Should the magnet on the outside of the flywheel line up with the ignition coil roughly at piston top dead centre? I realize the spark should occur a few degrees before TDC but I have a Kohler Courage engine on which the magnet seems to line up with the coil at roughly Bottom Dead Centre. I am about to remove the valve cover to check the valve timing. Wondering if my engine has timing gear problems. I bought the mower not running so I'm working my way through the problems.
good vid, the old fiat cars had ballancer shafts fitted to their twin cams engines 30 years ago, hence no vibrations, quiter at high revs,.you had to be careful when changing the cam belt
Don ur the man good job buddy
good vid, direct and to the point
Thanks for the info!
that was helpful thank you .
I have a similar problem right now...I've been told that its either the fuel pump on the valve cover leaking down into the cylinder, or the carburator is flooding.
Definitely good to know. Hey donyboy. Is their any type of timings like that on 2strokes? I don't think there is but just incase.
thank for the video it help a lot :)
What does the balance shaft do? If it is just for balancing why does it need to be timed?
I just had one of those apart. I had to change that "nylon" governor gear (farthest right in the video) It tore all the teeth off and while cutting grass the engine revved to the moon. First time I've seen that happen on one.
Good video dude...
thanks for noticing
Porque pierde compresión una presure washer
i have had this problem before and it ended up being the coil
This was very informative but it hasn't helped me any. I have a Kohler CV13S. I noticed your timing marks (on the crank) are about 200 degrees apart (clockwise). Mine are 180 apart so all of the marks won't match at the same time. There is no problem matching up the balance shaft, the problem is with the camshaft. It will either be right or 180 degrees out. I'm looking for suggestions before I close up the case and try it out. I believe if I put the piston all the way in (TDC presumably) and then install the camshaft with the lobes out of the way so both valves are closed I should be good. Any comments will be appreciated.
Nice Video !!!
Also, if you're going to crack the case bottom like this, make sure to inspect the plastic governor gear. Even if it looks good, check the oil sump screen. If there are small yellow strands of plastic in the screen, replace the governor gear, very easy to do. The oil and small metal particles will wear the plastic governor gear, causing it to spin faster which spins off the metal weights. I found mine in my sump with an out of control free revving engine. Nice video Dony.
Very nice , thanks..
yes it is
what sealant is best to reseal the case during Reassembly? Thanks alot
I use Permatex black RTV silicone or Dirko
Lots of modern engines have them too, and on some engine like the lancer evo, u can buy a kit to delete them, to free up the horsepower required to drive them. dont know what they run like without them tho.
Good stuff, thumbs up.
Nice clean inside, is the brown plastic one a governor device?
Nice update, ill know the marks now :-)
Thanks bud! Hey, winter is almost here and I want to rebuild my 23 HP Kohler motor.Any info on a youtube video that shows this engine broken down ad put back together would be awesome.It's a horizontal shaft 23 Hp.
+Matt Harris I don't have one yet
What's worse, it's possible to misadjust the external governor arm enough that the metal cap falls right off the shaft, causing the same over-revving, which I discovered can also cause the exhaust valve to not retract quickly enough, hit the piston and get bent. I know OHV engines have better compression, but those old K series Kohlers were much more bulletproof than this.
Don what exactly does the balance shaft do? Does it eliminate some vibration to try to make it run smoother and the other plastic round shaft is that the governor?
Balance shaft counteracts the motion of the piston making the engine run smoother. The other small plastic one is the governor gear
yes.. and those engiens are difficult to work, to command,, dont touch there...or you have to call me or someone who relally commnad engines
I am right at the point of reassembly of a Kohler CV15S. I know of the 2 marks on the crankshaft. While turning the crank I noticed that the balance shaft will match twice, but the cam shaft will be out 180*. How do you know if you are on the correct position of the stroke? On the exhaust or on the intake stroke? Please send a reply. I am waiting to get this thing back together.
I'm having the same issue on the same engine. After my decompression cam grenaded i pulled it apart to fix it. I've put it back together twice and each time I get no compression it backfires through the carburetor What did you figure out?
i usually gap between 025-030
thank you!
spark is generated each time piston reaches top
you can check at a local small engine shop or partstree dot com
donyboy not been very good at this sort of stuff i assume the marks are there so that it only goes back togther one way or is it because it could be put back together with the cogs not lining up? i do understand flywheels have a keyway so they only go on one way. i wish i was more mechaniclly minded thanks
hey dony....i loooked at a new riding mower today with the Kohler engine and i wonderd what your opinion was on them........actually i looked at two new riding mowers....one with the Kohler and the other has the Intek......i need your input.....which would you recomend......both engines were over 20 hp if that helps
Jerome Cooper I prefer the Kohler
i even asked about this on facebook and 3 people i know all said kohler.also......thank you
thanks dude!
Thank you.
yes
Probably vibrate like all hell. I have a lawn tractor with a similar Kohler engine to this one, without a ballancer shaft, and it isn't exactly smooth.
spanking clean engine a video! ty
I asked for a 20 horse sv600
if the marks are not lined up the engine will not run properly
nice
great
no there isn't
thanks,lol
you can send him an LCBO gift card
thank you!