For those that don't have a launch monitor, I personally just went to a par 3 course, took some scrap pieces of wood and marked them out every 5 yards and confirmed with a rangefinder. I built my matrix by hitting 20 balls for each swing type. I went waist to waist, chest to chest, shoulder to shoulder, and full swing. With PW, GW, SW, LW, it's given 16 different distances. (a few are the same distance, but with a different trajectory) I've printed the chart and stuck it on my push cart so I can see the numbers quickly (essential until I memorize them) After my matrix was done, I went back to the par 3 course and shot a bunch of balls from each distance to the flag to confirm the numbers. Everything was landing pin high from 30 yards up to 130 yards. Wedge matrix's are basically a cheat code, every single digit should be doing this.
I'm coming back to this video to say that after watching it I went and used my Mevo + unit and started building the same type of chart you have for 4 wedges, 3 swings, 3 ball positions to help me make decisions on the course. I have played 2 rounds since starting this process and must admit that this is the absolute BEST i have ever hit my wedges. In my last round I didn't hit a wedge outside of 15ft. Thanks for making this video!
Obviously just going over your old videos and thought I'd share something on this. Although I've been aware of this for sometime I never got round to doing it. Recently I decided to take my SW, GW, PW and 9 iron and just measure my arm back to the 9pm position and came up with 4 distances. I haven't taken this any further but I'm stunned at how much it has improved my short game. Knowing that a 95 yard shot is my 9 iron 9pm shot just allows me to step up and my only thought is that arm position. Even if I'm pitching over a hazard I don't feel the pressure that I would have felt in the past and it really has transformed my short game. If the shot is 110 yards I just swing longer with the 9 iron and that seems to work as well.
This was the best video I have seen so far in relation to wedge play, amazing to see all the different shots available and the work required. Definitely the area where the most work is needed for me. Excellent video
Part of this is obviously from Pelz. He recommends 7:30, 9, 10:30 swings with what he calls dead hands which is zero tension and a smooth swing which the 10:30 swing is about 75% of full distance power swing. he also recommends having a full follow through to rule out a variable. When I first worked this out old school in 2008 with 10 meter hats with a ball every meter my numbers worked out at in meters for 4 wedges starting at 50= 57,73,87 with a full swing being 105. 54 was 47, 62, 78 with a full shot 90....60= 35, 48, 63 with full power shot 75. 64= 23, 38, 53 with a full power shot at 60. I have gone to a new configuration of 48,53,58,64 and need to redo. I'm now 42 and off plus1 and worked out more than ever I can compete wit young guns by being precise with wedges. As Pelz says, "It's not how good you putt, it's where you putt from that matters" Get inside the golden 8 rule to have a better scores. Good video Pete.
This is incredibly validating!! I’ve been working on this system all off-season on trackman at 5iron golf. I’m getting yardages dialed in for 3 partial wedges, full swing and a sort of knockdown swing. For the partial wedges I’ve focused on 3 areas of control: club speed (considering optimal speed to dial in strike point), dynamic loft, face angle (relating to target line). It’s amazing to see the improvement in the consistency of the carry distances. I see so many teachers talking about feeling these shots, that only works for the best players in the world who can practice theses shots 4 hours a day. This system is tops!
This is almost exactly what I started doing a month or two ago but just the low-tech version at the driving range. Good to see I was on the right track!
i was booking in to get my iron gapping sorted, now i will definitely be doing it for my wedges too, never considered the importance of this rather than going off feel. The devil is in the detail, great video.
What an absolutely unreal video from start to finish! Possibly the best explained video of a what can be made to be a very confusing subject! Unreal Pete unreal sir
As a 4 hcp, the basic grid is all that is needed. When I try to alter the swing or clubface, more variables come in that really don't payoff. Wind , dew, green contour or pin position, ect. play a factor too. Just what I am working on now, thanks for a great video!
I absolutely love the wedge yardage chart. When you did this before, I made my own using the swing caddie. Not as accurate but plenny effective. Improved my game by taking pressure off the rest of my game. Feeling like it’s ok if I don’t hit the green.
I made up an abbreviated WAD some time ago after watching one of your vlogs; fewer clubs, shorter distances and 2 types of swing. It's not perfect but it certainly does help. Seriously envious of your Golf-Cave set-up Cheers
This is Peter at his very best!! I have missed this type of content on this channel. Though I love the 340 yd bombs, the wedge game is where shots are gained and lost. This was gold. Keep it coming. 💪
Best Pro on UA-cam Pete 👏🏼 your videos are brilliant and provide great info. Always look forward to watching a new one of your videos. Cheers and keep up the amazing work mate.
I practice my wedges a lot. And totally agree with you that everyone can be good with wedges. I do wonder what the dynamic is with wedges off mats and turf. In my experience mishits are not as severely punished on the mats, sometimes you even get a bit more distance.
For someone who plays DRIVER then WEDGE on a majority of the holes at my local, this is exactly what I needed to watch! Getting fitted for a new 50degree in a couple weeks! So thank you Finchy for this video! Keep up the good work and good luck for the future in your PGA NR Comps!
This is the best video you have ever done ! Bravo 👏 I love the scientific approach, it exactly what I want to do to improve my short game. I don’t think my swing is consistent enough to give good data ( I’m 25 HC, pensioner and only been playing 3 years) but I know that if I can improve my short game then I can lower my handicap. Thank you very much. Steve, Yorkshire
This. Enjoyed watching you and Rick playing my boyhood courses from afar, but this is a step up now in your content. Junior at West Lancs ( 30 ) years ago, and still hcp 1. This was worthwhile. A real step up . 👍
This isn't new unless you're new to golf. Tom Kite did this back in the 80's and he wasn't the only one. But good on you for bringing this up for people to improve their short game. And yes i'm old..😛 🏌️
Great stuff, Pete. I personally try to minimize the changes to the swing itself for the “in-between” distances. For ex, if a 54* goes 60 yds at 1/2 swing and 75 yds at 3/4 and I have a 68 yd pin, I’m looking for something between my 1/2 and 3/4 swings. A lot of times I also will rely on hand position to impact distance, so a regular grip 3/4 swing could be 75 yds, but choking up the grip a ways could take off 5 yards easy and it’s still the same swing and swing thought. This is where the art of the game comes in, it really is one of the most rewarding and greatest feelings!
Part of the first half of my range session is to hit my 58-54-50-PW-9i-8i to the 30-40-50-60-70-80 & 90 yard markers to help create a feel for hitting different clubs a variety of distances. Looking forward to the ranges opening up in the U.K. next week with 3 rounds planned for the easter weekend!
Mr Finch your smashing driver irons are good now you sorting the wedges out I can see a trip to the Open coming soon just in time for all your supporters to get out & cheer you on after lockdown. Keep up the great work 🏌️♂️⛳👍
This video & concept is huge in dropping scores. Did it before and coming back to it now. Not only for bombers too, for any of us that Mia hit a second shot these yardages can save par 💪
I'd love to see a video on adjusting based on temperature. Say you get all these yardages down based on a certain temperature, is there a somewhat accurate formula to then adjust based on temperature?
Great vid Pete, been watching a few wedge videos and this one is top. What would be great to know about know is things like spin and different flights. If you hit a lower flighted shot, does it go the same distance still? If not, how much does it add/take away? How much does wind then affect these shots? How about spin - how do you control it, add more, take it away, and how much spin are you expecting in different types of conditions etc.? I understand these are more advanced questions, but I haven't seen them addressed in many videos on UA-cam at all, so would be great to hear your take on it.
Lots of golf ranges have things like Top Tracer as well. it might not be quite as accurate for distance, but for a few quid for an hour, it can help without spending the £20 - £40 quid some pros charge.
Great video, I did exactly this a couple of years back and it made a huge difference to my wedge game and ultimately my handicap. I go went up to 8 iron with the 3 swings amazing what options that gives you out on the course.
I know that short game videos get as much attention as the short game practice area at my course... but, please continue with more “short game” please!!! Cheers. Sorry, did I mention, thanks for the template chart and a great video!
Great content as always.......You must be a mind reader as Im struggling to find somewhere to hire to get my distances and thinking of best ways using the driving range. Wishing you all the best for upcoming comps and keep up the great work
Wow great video I have a feeling this is going to totally change my game it has definitely changed the way I look at shots from 120 yds in. I’m now gonna get my own WAD and take it on the course with me! Thanks Pete
Fantastic video and something I needed to see. I have just recently got a new set of wedges and don’t have the quite dialed in like I would want. Didn’t buy a quad, but I did get the sc300 to essentially do what you just described without really thinking about actually making a chart. Plan on adapting my wedge sessions moving forward and incorporating a lot of what you just went over. Thanks for the great tips and can’t wait to see some of those comp videos
Hi pete love the videos but can you explain how the right arm works through the shot and the release -it it held off for wedges or let go -this can only be seen in slo mo -thanks
A while back you did a great "Mickelson's Wedge Technique" video that was super fun. Would love to see you do other videos showing other famous various wedge techniques-Jason Day or Tiger or whoever.
My favourite part of the game is half wedges! I find it really easy to grip down on clubs to take distance off. I either hit a draw with wedges or relatively straight. Those along with 3/4s or half swings is about all i figure that i need.
Great vlog as always an great advice. But I would love to see Rick try you 20 wedge shot skills challenge to see how he would get on with his massive hitting wedges
Great VLOG Pete, always enjoy learning as well as being entertained ! I'm off to the range at the weekend to start 'wedge' practice. And yes they have TopTracer installed which at least gives a decent idea of carry and roll !
Favourite time of the day has come. Peter finch upload
Oh you ☺️
So true it’s the best!
@Cad Pro and that’s your profile picture. What age are u? 10?
This part of the game is grossly overlooked. I've been working my ass off on this the last few years and really noticed a huge difference.
Have to say, the filming and editing is seriously good these days 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Pete this is fantastic to watch. Really shows how hard you're working. Love seeing your WAD
😂
Wadsee (WADC)! 😄
Can't wait to see you in a tournament brosef, looks like you're putting in the work
Yeah looking forward to it!
For those that don't have a launch monitor, I personally just went to a par 3 course, took some scrap pieces of wood and marked them out every 5 yards and confirmed with a rangefinder. I built my matrix by hitting 20 balls for each swing type.
I went waist to waist, chest to chest, shoulder to shoulder, and full swing. With PW, GW, SW, LW, it's given 16 different distances. (a few are the same distance, but with a different trajectory) I've printed the chart and stuck it on my push cart so I can see the numbers quickly (essential until I memorize them)
After my matrix was done, I went back to the par 3 course and shot a bunch of balls from each distance to the flag to confirm the numbers. Everything was landing pin high from 30 yards up to 130 yards. Wedge matrix's are basically a cheat code, every single digit should be doing this.
I swing my driver just like Rory McIlroy!!! I could easy find someone's swimming pool instead of the fairway 😂😂
I think that's one of if not my favourite videos you've ever done. Keep up the good work.
I'm coming back to this video to say that after watching it I went and used my Mevo + unit and started building the same type of chart you have for 4 wedges, 3 swings, 3 ball positions to help me make decisions on the course. I have played 2 rounds since starting this process and must admit that this is the absolute BEST i have ever hit my wedges. In my last round I didn't hit a wedge outside of 15ft. Thanks for making this video!
Great video. Makes your practice time very productive. Love videos that translate into better scores too!
Obviously just going over your old videos and thought I'd share something on this. Although I've been aware of this for sometime I never got round to doing it. Recently I decided to take my SW, GW, PW and 9 iron and just measure my arm back to the 9pm position and came up with 4 distances. I haven't taken this any further but I'm stunned at how much it has improved my short game. Knowing that a 95 yard shot is my 9 iron 9pm shot just allows me to step up and my only thought is that arm position. Even if I'm pitching over a hazard I don't feel the pressure that I would have felt in the past and it really has transformed my short game. If the shot is 110 yards I just swing longer with the 9 iron and that seems to work as well.
Best video you have done for ages. A real area we can all work on.
This was the best video I have seen so far in relation to wedge play, amazing to see all the different shots available and the work required. Definitely the area where the most work is needed for me. Excellent video
Part of this is obviously from Pelz. He recommends 7:30, 9, 10:30 swings with what he calls dead hands which is zero tension and a smooth swing which the 10:30 swing is about 75% of full distance power swing. he also recommends having a full follow through to rule out a variable. When I first worked this out old school in 2008 with 10 meter hats with a ball every meter my numbers worked out at in meters for 4 wedges starting at 50= 57,73,87 with a full swing being 105. 54 was 47, 62, 78 with a full shot 90....60= 35, 48, 63 with full power shot 75. 64= 23, 38, 53 with a full power shot at 60. I have gone to a new configuration of 48,53,58,64 and need to redo. I'm now 42 and off plus1 and worked out more than ever I can compete wit young guns by being precise with wedges. As Pelz says, "It's not how good you putt, it's where you putt from that matters" Get inside the golden 8 rule to have a better scores. Good video Pete.
This is incredibly validating!! I’ve been working on this system all off-season on trackman at 5iron golf. I’m getting yardages dialed in for 3 partial wedges, full swing and a sort of knockdown swing. For the partial wedges I’ve focused on 3 areas of control: club speed (considering optimal speed to dial in strike point), dynamic loft, face angle (relating to target line). It’s amazing to see the improvement in the consistency of the carry distances. I see so many teachers talking about feeling these shots, that only works for the best players in the world who can practice theses shots 4 hours a day. This system is tops!
This is almost exactly what I started doing a month or two ago but just the low-tech version at the driving range. Good to see I was on the right track!
Good lesson. I like this idea of three swings per wedge as a manner of determining the distance.
I recommend building a spreadsheet with a temperature cell by which to multiply your distances. That way you can input the average temp for you round.
i was booking in to get my iron gapping sorted, now i will definitely be doing it for my wedges too, never considered the importance of this rather than going off feel. The devil is in the detail, great video.
What an absolutely unreal video from start to finish! Possibly the best explained video of a what can be made to be a very confusing subject! Unreal Pete unreal sir
As a 4 hcp, the basic grid is all that is needed. When I try to alter the swing or clubface, more variables come in that really don't payoff. Wind , dew, green contour or pin position, ect. play a factor too. Just what I am working on now, thanks for a great video!
Excellent video and instruction. My Rapsodo arrived at the pro shop today so you’ve given me some work to be getting on with. Many thanks.
I absolutely love the wedge yardage chart. When you did this before, I made my own using the swing caddie. Not as accurate but plenny effective. Improved my game by taking pressure off the rest of my game. Feeling like it’s ok if I don’t hit the green.
I made up an abbreviated WAD some time ago after watching one of your vlogs; fewer clubs, shorter distances and 2 types of swing. It's not perfect but it certainly does help.
Seriously envious of your Golf-Cave set-up
Cheers
This is Peter at his very best!! I have missed this type of content on this channel. Though I love the 340 yd bombs, the wedge game is where shots are gained and lost. This was gold. Keep it coming. 💪
Best Pro on UA-cam Pete 👏🏼 your videos are brilliant and provide great info. Always look forward to watching a new one of your videos. Cheers and keep up the amazing work mate.
1 of your best informative videos yet for any and all players! Qualify all ready for the damn open!
I've just got myself a little book to set up a wadc and our range has fitted Trackman so happy days! I'm saving this vlog, nice work again Pete!
This. The Trackman ranges are a great place to develop a WADC then also practice it in the approach or points games.
Great video. I tell the folks I work with the same know how far the ball carries to help lower your scores thanks Peter
I practice my wedges a lot. And totally agree with you that everyone can be good with wedges.
I do wonder what the dynamic is with wedges off mats and turf. In my experience mishits are not as severely punished on the mats, sometimes you even get a bit more distance.
For someone who plays DRIVER then WEDGE on a majority of the holes at my local, this is exactly what I needed to watch! Getting fitted for a new 50degree in a couple weeks! So thank you Finchy for this video! Keep up the good work and good luck for the future in your PGA NR Comps!
This is the best video you have ever done ! Bravo 👏 I love the scientific approach, it exactly what I want to do to improve my short game. I don’t think my swing is consistent enough to give good data ( I’m 25 HC, pensioner and only been playing 3 years) but I know that if I can improve my short game then I can lower my handicap. Thank you very much. Steve, Yorkshire
This. Enjoyed watching you and Rick playing my boyhood courses from afar, but this is a step up now in your content. Junior at West Lancs ( 30 ) years ago, and still hcp 1. This was worthwhile. A real step up . 👍
Having been trying to work on this lately love the timing of this video! Quality content as always
Brilliant video Pete ! Love to watch your videos at the moment ! Keep up the good spirit ! Cheers Lukas
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this video!! SO helpful! Thank you Pete!
This video is going to help so many people who struggle with distance control and feel including myself. More videos like this one please 👍
I have a Mevo + unit in my backyard and as much as smashing drivers is fun I think I enjoy doing wedge games and par 3 courses more!
Really enjoying your content and you're humor is spot on. Love it!
This isn't new unless you're new to golf. Tom Kite did this back in the 80's and he wasn't the only one. But good on you for bringing this up for people to improve their short game. And yes i'm old..😛 🏌️
Great Video, with great content. To me it seems your Videos improved vastly over time. Compared to most other creators your quality is the reference.
Great stuff, Pete. I personally try to minimize the changes to the swing itself for the “in-between” distances. For ex, if a 54* goes 60 yds at 1/2 swing and 75 yds at 3/4 and I have a 68 yd pin, I’m looking for something between my 1/2 and 3/4 swings. A lot of times I also will rely on hand position to impact distance, so a regular grip 3/4 swing could be 75 yds, but choking up the grip a ways could take off 5 yards easy and it’s still the same swing and swing thought.
This is where the art of the game comes in, it really is one of the most rewarding and greatest feelings!
Part of the first half of my range session is to hit my 58-54-50-PW-9i-8i to the 30-40-50-60-70-80 & 90 yard markers to help create a feel for hitting different clubs a variety of distances. Looking forward to the ranges opening up in the U.K. next week with 3 rounds planned for the easter weekend!
Mr Finch your smashing driver irons are good now you sorting the wedges out I can see a trip to the Open coming soon just in time for all your supporters to get out & cheer you on after lockdown. Keep up the great work 🏌️♂️⛳👍
Absolutely loving the golf studio. So awesome you playing Vice Balls!
Great video Pete. Really informative and as you say it's within everyone's capabilities unlike bombing a driver.
This is exactly what I needed. Great content pete!
This video & concept is huge in dropping scores. Did it before and coming back to it now. Not only for bombers too, for any of us that Mia hit a second shot these yardages can save par 💪
Just what I was thinking I needed to work on, thanks Peter Finch
These are the types of additions to your game that make all the difference! Great Content Pete!
Very interesting , I like that set up for wedges , I must try it out
Thanks for the tips!
I'd love to see a video on adjusting based on temperature. Say you get all these yardages down based on a certain temperature, is there a somewhat accurate formula to then adjust based on temperature?
nice video Pete, so true that's where we save the shots if you know your distances.
Great explanation of a wedge scoring system!!!
Love watching you do this kind of thing !!! Fingers crossed for you to Qualify.
I DM’d you about something like this today and what do I find a full video on it. Peter Finch taking supply and demand to a new level 👌🏻
😂 all for you Tom
Literally did the exact same thing, and as if by magic it appeared!
Great vid Pete, been watching a few wedge videos and this one is top. What would be great to know about know is things like spin and different flights. If you hit a lower flighted shot, does it go the same distance still? If not, how much does it add/take away? How much does wind then affect these shots? How about spin - how do you control it, add more, take it away, and how much spin are you expecting in different types of conditions etc.? I understand these are more advanced questions, but I haven't seen them addressed in many videos on UA-cam at all, so would be great to hear your take on it.
I need to put the work in from 35-80 yards. Any distance control between there had been a nightmare for me the last couple seasons, as has my putting
Exactly what i needed. Thanks Pete.
I’m watching this two years later and nothings changed for you pete
Lots of golf ranges have things like Top Tracer as well. it might not be quite as accurate for distance, but for a few quid for an hour, it can help without spending the £20 - £40 quid some pros charge.
This is such a good video - really struggle with anything less than a full swing with wedges!!
This video is excellent - as per usual. Love the Finch drop
Top work, amigo. I’m looking forward to following you on your journey.
great video Peter!!! very helpful
Really enjoyed that, some great insights.
Best video youve done this mate !
I'm on my way from the West Coast USA to do some wedge testing on your GC4. I'll call you when I'm almost there ...
Great tutorial Pete, something we should all do
Love this...thanks for the direction...
Great video, I did exactly this a couple of years back and it made a huge difference to my wedge game and ultimately my handicap. I go went up to 8 iron with the 3 swings amazing what options that gives you out on the course.
I know that short game videos get as much attention as the short game practice area at my course... but, please continue with more “short game” please!!! Cheers. Sorry, did I mention, thanks for the template chart and a great video!
Loved this content, thanks for all the insights here
Great content as always.......You must be a mind reader as Im struggling to find somewhere to hire to get my distances and thinking of best ways using the driving range. Wishing you all the best for upcoming comps and keep up the great work
Wow great video I have a feeling this is going to totally change my game it has definitely changed the way I look at shots from 120 yds in. I’m now gonna get my own WAD and take it on the course with me! Thanks Pete
Top video, To have the time for this would be Bliss. Going to try out the Rapsodo MLM.
Fantastic video and something I needed to see. I have just recently got a new set of wedges and don’t have the quite dialed in like I would want. Didn’t buy a quad, but I did get the sc300 to essentially do what you just described without really thinking about actually making a chart. Plan on adapting my wedge sessions moving forward and incorporating a lot of what you just went over. Thanks for the great tips and can’t wait to see some of those comp videos
This video has some great tips thank you
Good stuff Pete, as usual.
I want to play!!!
Just picked up a new set of Kirkland Signature wedges; WAD chart coming together...hahaha
Thanks again
Love this video, great work!
There a few driving ranges with track man and so many more with top tracer for those that can’t get a pro with one
Brilliant vid, I’ll deffo be working on this.
Hi pete love the videos but can you explain how the right arm works through the shot and the release -it it held off for wedges or let go -this can only be seen in slo mo -thanks
At this point I'm just trying to make good contact
My wedges within 100yards are my strong side of my game, have problems with my long irons! I also have those Titleist BV wedges 52-56-60 great clubs
A while back you did a great "Mickelson's Wedge Technique" video that was super fun. Would love to see you do other videos showing other famous various wedge techniques-Jason Day or Tiger or whoever.
Great video. I'm gonna start on my chart now
Great timing just bought the Kirkland set - loving the videos, really getting me through lockdown ready for next week!!
Great information.
at 8:10 --- are you sure you're working in 80 degrees C my good man?
What a beast!
I’m dying for a tournament video. Thanks for the tip!
Personally, I would just choke down a bit to loose a little distance rather than try to fade the ball.
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@Dominik Grant #9 you don’t have a 3.4 handicap lmao
Loved this. Def something I’m going to try myself.
Hey Peter! Could you do a video going through the different grinds of the vokey wedges? How did you determine which were best for you?
My favourite part of the game is half wedges! I find it really easy to grip down on clubs to take distance off. I either hit a draw with wedges or relatively straight. Those along with 3/4s or half swings is about all i figure that i need.
Awesome video, same here, driving OK, wedge play atrocious! Work needed!
Great vlog as always an great advice. But I would love to see Rick try you 20 wedge shot skills challenge to see how he would get on with his massive hitting wedges
Brilliant idea and definitely something I’m going to do 👌🏻
Great VLOG Pete, always enjoy learning as well as being entertained ! I'm off to the range at the weekend to start 'wedge' practice. And yes they have TopTracer installed which at least gives a decent idea of carry and roll !