Boomed vs Boomless Sprayers - Which is Best? | The Setup w/ Bill Winke
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2023
- I have used a lot of sprayers over the years and the current trend toward boomless sprayers has a place. If you have only a few acres of food plots, the boomless is the way to go. But they are not nearly as good as boomed sprayers in certain situations. Here is why I think you need both styles to round out your food plot equipment list.
Bill your way works for no foaming for sure. They do make a couple different products for defoaming I was draining a three PT.sprayer tank into buckets a couple of drops and foam was gone now I could pour it in our boom less tank. Great content 👍 good luck all
Good tip. Thanks Mike. I appreciate the support. Have a great day.
Another option - I modified my 25 gallon ATV boomless sprayer by replacing the two end nozzles with one similar to the middle nozzle. In doing so, I essentially have a boomed ATV sprayer which covers about 12 feet with 3 nozzles that spray straight down. I feel like this modification is the best of both worlds. It allows me to use it on smaller plots, but also gives me the accuracy and even coverage of a boomed sprayer.
Great idea!
That is a really good idea Nick. Good thinking. Thanks for the input.
I have a 26 gallon boomless sprayer-1 nozzle, 2.4 gallons a minute. I find I have to go 1-2 miles per hour to get the ground coverage needed to knock out the weeds on a consistent basis, using about 26 gallons to the acre. Also need very low wind speeds or the spray drifts badly. I had to spray three time this year due to the very wet growing season. I need to purchase a boom sprayer for my larger plots and like the one you are using. Cheers and success to our 1st frosty morning!
Thanks for the input Kendell. Have a great day and good luck to you too.
I have a 25 gallon sprayer I use with my UTV, all of food plots are pretty small and in tight places, works great.
Yes, the boomless work great in the small spots. You just have to calibrate your speed so that you get good coverage. Generally, that means going a bit slower than you would like. Good luck.
Good video, and well made with the drone view I'm guessing. I have a 60gal boomless with PTO 6 roller pump. I guess I can make up a boom if needed.
The boomless is definitely more flexible, but I have found that I get a cleaner kill with the boomed models because I get more consistent coverage with the chemical with the boomed sprayer. I still use both depending on what I am spraying. Have a great day.
I use a 25 gallon boomless sprayer on my RTV S X S, and it is the perfect option for me.
My plots are rather small, but I use my sprayer more for maintenance of my logging roads and trails.
It has two spray nozzles, and I can control the spray width by turning the nozzles in or out. This allows me to spray a narrow eight foot wide path on my trails, or open it up to a thirty foot wide spray path when spraying my fields and plots.
A boomed sprayer would not work for me due to trees and shrubs that would impede my spraying.
I would LOVE to get a three point sprayer for my tractor though, because I HATE having to make trips to the shed just to refill my tank.
Question for you Bill:
When I fill my tank I will get a LOT OF FOAM that will run out of the top of my tank when it is only half full. I then have to stop and wait until the foam recedes, to continue filling my tank, which costs me some time.
And I worry about wasting my herbicide.
Very much like pouring a beer and having half of it run over the glass and wasting it!
Any suggestions on preventing this?
The herbicide! Not the beer! LOL
I was sliding up on the edge of my seat with excitement to comment about the beer when you shot me down with that last line! There may be something you can add to the tank to prevent the foam. Not sure, but there are two solutions I have found. First, you can put the hose down into the liquid so the full force of the spray is underwater. Then you have a hose that you can't use for a lot else until thoroughly cleaned. Second, you can put the water in before the herbicide and then add the herbicide after the tank is pretty much full. That works best if you run the tank completely dry between refills and have a way to agitate the solution before spraying. Good luck.
@@bill-winke Yes, I had the same thoughts about contaminating the hose if submerged into the tank. My concern with adding the herbicide AFTER the tank is full is in not getting a good and thorough mix, but this is my preferred means for now, as by the time I get to my spray destination it gets mixed fairly well. Good enough to work the last eight years! I have heard of an agitator that can be placed inside the tank. Have you heard anything about this?
I'm a farmer and I use a product called FoamBuster. 1-2 ounces per 100 gallons of water and your foam problems are gone. Good luck.
I bought a boomless for my UTV kubota I think it’s 250-300 gallons. Most of my plots are small, under an acre. Some as small as 1/8 so I went boomless. It has a wand too that I can use up against my screening and be real careful not to get drift with Glyphosate especially
Steve, I bet that is a lot smaller than 300 gallons. I have seen them up to 110 gallons. In fact, I had a Kubota with the biggest sprayer I could get on it and that was around 110 gallons. But either way, it was a sweet rig. It had a cab and controls inside so I didn't have to worry about spray drift. I had to give it back when I stopped producing content for Midwest Whitetail. Bummer. Maybe I should try contacting them again!
@@bill-winke probably right size wise
110 seems about right, not sure what i was thinking especially realizing the 200 on your tractors 3 point :)
i had a fimco 7ft boom sprayer and di dnto like it that much. Just bought their 45gal boomless and it is a spraying machine, much prefer it over the boom sprayer
I think if you are going to get just one sprayer (especially for an ATV) you get the boomless. If you have the budget for two and own a tractor, I sure like the boomed sprayer better for open fields.
Some farmers add foam into the mix, so as to outline your spray path.
I don't think they add it to the mix. I think there is a dispenser at the end of the booms that drop it as they go along showing the outside of the spray path. At least that is what I have seen. The big commercial rigs all use GPS now and even turn on and off the nozzles automatically so as to cover every inch but never overspray anything. It is pretty impressive.
i was wondering if you go through more herbicide with the boomless compared to the boom?
I think you do, but only slightly more because it is harder to tell where you have been so you tend to overlap more. At least that has been my experience.
That ATV sprayer is a lot better system than the one I got a few years ago from Tractor Supply.
Here's the one I have: wildlifefarming.com/Product/161281/Wildlife-Farming/25-Gallon-Atv-Sprayer-With-Broadcast-Boom-35%27-Spray-Width//Catalog/Category/WILDLIFE-FARMING/UTV--ATV-SPRAYERS/1378
Bill ,,, what is your coverage rate on 3 nozzle boomless ,,, gallons per acre ?
I think I am a little over 10 gallons per acre, but it also depends on what I am spraying. For a 25 gallon sprayer I try to get around 2 acres. If what I am trying to kill is super thick I go slower so I get full coverage. Of course you have to put less chemical in the tank when you do that so you don't spread it too heavy.
What kind of spray do you use before you plant your food plots?
I just keep it simple and go with straight glyphosate. With sorghum I have also used atrazine in the past with the gly to keep broadleaf plants from coming in later. I am sure there are specialized chemical mixes for corn to keep future weeds from germinating, but I have not used them. Also, if you get grasses in your clover, alfalfa or brassicas, a clethodim based herbicide like Arrest Max from Whitetail Institute is very handy.
does anybody know if weed killer can or will hurt fertilizer? for example i mow my food plot and then put fertilizer down can you spray right after without hurting it?
I have sprayed over fertilizer a number of times in my food plots. I can't say I have seen anything to make me think it was a mistake. There may be a chemist out there that something different to add.
@@bill-winke thanks just a question I have been wondering and wanted to ask you!
Farmer here. 1,200 acres for 50+ years. Spray will not harm or make your fertilizer(assuming granular) any less effective. With that said...incorporating your fertilizer is always your best bet especially with Urea(Nitrogen) because nitrogen will evaporate and be lost. That loss is known as Volatilization and occurs when N is spread on top of the ground and a timely and heavy enough rain doesn't occur in time. I know that always isn't possible. If you are using a liquid fertilizer be sure to read the directions very carefully because there are some things that can happen. As in make the spray less effective etc. Best of luck.
@@rayjupina6719 thank you!!!
Anyone ever rinse tank out and us it to water plots during dry times. Just don't top water in the blazing sun and it shouldn't burn the plants
Look up how much water is dispersed over 1 acre of land during any given amount of rainfall you will never be able to come close
I tried it once and even with a 200 gallon sprayer, I barely made a dent on my half acre plot so I gave it up. As Joey says, there is a massive amount of water in a one rain. That is roughly 14,000 gallons for just a half-acre plot. That would be a lot of trips with my 200 gallon sprayer! So, once I realized the scale of the numbers I gave up thinking about watering my plots with a sprayer.
Better spray that Thistle Mr Winke!
Got it done. No more thistle.
@@bill-winke They laugh at the drought!
boomless sprayer absolutely sucks save your money people they are junk. mine is made by Fimco which is that exact one with just a different name on it. You can not adjust spray pattern huge droplets one end sprays sometimes then the other not a fan
I suppose a guy could experiment with nozzles, but yes, in principle I agree. The droplet size has to be big to carry that far and that alone means the coverage won't be as good unless you drive really slow. Good input.
@@bill-winke i do appreciate all your videos. they have helped me tremendously thanks again.