I grew up driving grain trucks in the summers, 53' hoppers that were filled to the top out of the field. They crossed the scales at 90k + and I never shifted with a clutch. You learn pretty fast out on farm roads and turn rows that using a clutch is tiring and a waste of effort for 95% of your shifting.
Hey, why sit waiting at an intersection for the traffic to clear when you can sit at home in the comfort of your own comfy couch and watch somebody else sitting waiting at an intersection for the traffic to clear.
I got my class 1 when I was 19, I drove till I was near 25, Im 43 today, in those years after 25 I ran excavators and loaders, today I am going in for a road test to see if I can still shift 18, gonna be a bit outta sorts but im sure stuff will start making sense..... glad I kept my class 1 up to date it seems it was an ace in my pocket Im using today:)
@@younghungrymusic4157 things went well, a little sketchy at the start, when my nerves settled down things all fell into place! From a long time ago when automatics trucks was really just a dream, it seems they have really caught on, the company I work for has 21 trucks and I think about 10 of them are auto. Things that haven't changed since back in the day is thee amazing ability for the general public to get in front of a loaded or empty gravel truck pulling a pup and how they are willing to risk their lives to get there, Im getting a dash cam, also equipment operators get very frustrated when my "mind reading" capabilities clearly just don't work. One last thing I notice is there is always a couple drivers that make sure everyone else know they do not own a bolt in the truck and just pound the living guts out of them, very cringe worthy and thankful they aren't driving my truck. Thankyou for asking Steveo, how are things on your end?
Would be great. I like seeing the guys boots when he is working the pedals/ clutches and the shift stick..there is some kind of rhythm to it all, very interesting. My dad and alot of the men in my area growing up were truck drivers, we always knew when dad was close to coming into the drive way as we would hear his Jake brake as he was getting closer to home. -Kirk, in Montreal
Ontario, right on! I saw the Perth South road sign, and wondered if this was Australia or Canada...but clearly you're driving on the right lol I'm a few hours from you and sounds like I learned backwards to how you did, I know reasonably well how to drive but no licence yet. One day (soon) I'll get to it. Great video!
Andrew O'Brien thanks for the comment. the rules are apparently changing very soon, and you're now required to do truck driver training to get your A in Ontario. act fast if you're able to, and save yourself eight grand!
I love the fact you have your child with u and believe it or not he will love trucks as well because I was in that position when growing up and trucks is my passion good luck and stay safe 🤍👍👍
Very nice...very nice and little boss liked the shotgun seat. Do you feel under powered in the 348, im considering one 370hp with auto trans and 16 foot dump bed.
Sir, I'm from Schnydered Truck Lines. We'd like to hire you. But we only hire Double Clutchers because they are more Eggselent Truck drivers. Sorry you can't come work here wit all da goood dryvers. LOL
carlylea his transmission looks like an eaton 10 speed which is basically 5 speed with hi/lo gears so it has 10 gears u just flip to high and go through 1st-5th again for 6-10
when you ease off the throttle that's when you shift and continue to do so all the way through and get back on the throttle before your Rpms drop!!! thanks I'm learning how to float just wanted to know for sure
I never actually take my foot off the throttle. I just back off on the throttle while shifting. I go from 75ish percent throttle to 40ish percent (or something like that). If you fully take your foot off the throttle, you wont shift smooth. If you don't shift smooth, you're going to be damaging your transmission and driveline.
Thanks for the video. I am curious to know did you learn to float by taking note of the RPM and when to shift or just learn by doing it? Hope you got a cool plate for your co-driver lol
Stephen Wallace hey! I guess I kinda learned by doing it. I was never formally trained, and getting your licence in Ontario 15 years ago was a bit of a joke. I had my licence before I ever really drove a truck, so when I started driving I basically taught myself to float gears. I still can't use the clutch to shift - I never really learned how. 15 years later, and I haven't had a problem yet.
Cool, thanks for replying. I have my class 4 here in New Zealand and have driven trucks (rigid, no trailers) with just a manual transmission like a car... taught myself to double clutch, and now thinking about getting Class 5 which is truck/trailer licence so learning about the shifting via watching videos etc, and playing American Truck Simulator.. I know, not the same thing, but I love the big long nose trucks especially Kenworth W900, which is in the game, although I love the W900 Long (a mod) the most lol One day I will get in the real thing! Cheers
Stephen Wallace I've been considering doing an actual 'how to' for floating gears... or at least how I do it. maybe I'll get my little copilot out on the weekend some time soon and do that!
I found this very fun to watch. Do you need a special license to drive this? I know it's a Class 6 truck but anything for Air Brakes, the 10-speed or a CDL for the trailer?
Hey! Here in Ontario, Canada, the required licence for this truck and trailer would be AZ. An A licence allows you to drive any truck and trailer combination. Any trailer with air breaks or exceeding 24,000 pounds requires the A. The Z enforcement is what you need to drive a vehicle with air breaks. Thanks for the comment, and I hope I cleared it up for you!
Class a cdl in the states if it's a tractor - trailer. Class b if it's a straight truck. Unless it's registered and used as a farm vehicle. Then regular class d (what every auto drivers licence is).
Uh....how did I get here? Well, I guess now I know how to shift without a clutch on a 10-speed transmission truck. Correct me if I'm wrong: Rev up to about 2/3 throttle, take it out of gear, let it fall to about half throttle, shift up, throttle up again to 2/3, N, fall to half, shift up, 2/3, N, 1/2, up. Shifting down: let it fall to 1/2 throttle, take it out to neutral, rev up to 2/3, shift down, let it fall to 1/2, N, rev up to 2/3, shift down, etc. Am I in the ballpark? You make it seem so easy.
I honestly never thought of learning this, just clicking through some recommended videos and it caught my eye "I don't know how to use the clutch to shift", and I was like WTF, how do you even drive a manual then?! o.O But I did just watch your how-to video about "floating gears", I didn't know you can do that on a truck transmission. I doubt I'll ever use this in real life, but it's still really interesting. Thank you ^_^
Careful, I might just take you up on that someday ;) Hungary is still pretty far away, but if I'm ever in the neighborhood, I'll make sure to come say hi! Happy holidays!
go by the RPM split between gears. it varies between transmission types but lets pretend its 500 RPM difference between 8th and 9th on your transmission your'e going 90 kmh engine revolutions are 2000rpm. you let off the throttle as you pull the transmission into neutral you let the rpms drop to 1500 and it should go into the next gear up. to shift down you do the opposite you bring the rpm's down to 1500 neutral then at 2000 rpm go into the lower gear. I hope you'r not running your engine at those rpms but there nice round numbers. different types of transmissions have different rpm splits between gears but the split should remain constant all the way through.
russell richard thank you for the info I just go my permit and my first lesson today and it was pretty interested I was using abnormal 6 gear truck trailer today
When your downshifting how low are the rpm before 1000-1200? And once in that range you can slide it out of current gear without clutch and just rev it up slightly before sliding it in to the next gear? Thx
Greg Bene hey! depends on whether I'm in a hurry or not. generally I downshift around 1500. and no, I do not use the clutch. simply mesh the rpm and it will easily fall out of gear. then rev up another 500 ish rpm and drop it into the next.
carlylea thx for the quick reply. I'm from southern Ontario myself and new to the truck scene. Was driving Plow last winter for the Miller Group 10 spd manual. And now starting up with Ontario Redimix in couple weeks also manual. Know how to drive just need to finesse the shifting without clutch.
You will make out just fine, I can already tell you that. You are obviously interested in driving, and in my opinion, that's all you need. I've been meaning to make a new 'how to' video for floating gears, but I just haven't got around to it yet.
Change dash and steering wheel to the right and ad a bull bar put dad in passenger little dude in driver and that’s me double clutching around my house
Eric M All our American trucks are narrow cabins and Peterbilt and Kenworth are owned by the European DAF truck company Mack is owned by Volvo Freightliner is owned by Mercedes Benz .... and all other truck brands are owned by European Truck companies
Eric M European trucks have 5 stairs in the cabin and our Americas are only two European ones are much larger and wider than American trucks The American truck is smaller and narrower and narrower for one axle than the European truck although although it has a watch in front of the cabin
what im saying in peterbilts and kenworths are known to have narrow cabins, all others are much bigger. The trucks are 2.6 ms wide from mirror to mirror. There built for north american roads not European. Id take a kenworth t800 any day over any european truck, but thats because im from north americca. Not a fan of coe trucks, they're ugly :P. And not many "children" i see that can float gears in a truck, legally anyway
It's not a matter of hating the clutch, the less you use it the less you'll ever have to replace it. YOu can go ten years easy without ever having to replace your clutch if you only use it to start up your truck. If you use your clutch every time you switch gears it will not last as long. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong though.
I've just made a how to video if anyone is interested. Check it out ua-cam.com/video/dd4s22TAER0/v-deo.html
I did this today because of you, my friend...just trying to figure out how to trick the tester into thinking I'm double clutching😂
Smooth shifting young man ,that how i was taught by my dad too , your little guy will probably do the same when he grows up .
I grew up driving grain trucks in the summers, 53' hoppers that were filled to the top out of the field. They crossed the scales at 90k + and I never shifted with a clutch. You learn pretty fast out on farm roads and turn rows that using a clutch is tiring and a waste of effort for 95% of your shifting.
when you get good you dont have to watch rpms, you just listen?
Hey, why sit waiting at an intersection for the traffic to clear when you can sit at home in the comfort of your own comfy couch and watch somebody else sitting waiting at an intersection for the traffic to clear.
Little dude in the passenger seat. That's badass. I learned the same way from my uncle.
This video reminds me of me and my dad when I was younger
This is awesome man. I would have love some time with my father like this.
That was very informative, now I know what it means to float gears - fascinating!
Hahahaha little guy wanted to talk to some truckers. Lol
Trucker T what up
I got my class 1 when I was 19, I drove till I was near 25, Im 43 today, in those years after 25 I ran excavators and loaders, today I am going in for a road test to see if I can still shift 18, gonna be a bit outta sorts but im sure stuff will start making sense..... glad I kept my class 1 up to date it seems it was an ace in my pocket Im using today:)
We need update
@@younghungrymusic4157 things went well, a little sketchy at the start, when my nerves settled down things all fell into place! From a long time ago when automatics trucks was really just a dream, it seems they have really caught on, the company I work for has 21 trucks and I think about 10 of them are auto.
Things that haven't changed since back in the day is thee amazing ability for the general public to get in front of a loaded or empty gravel truck pulling a pup and how they are willing to risk their lives to get there, Im getting a dash cam, also equipment operators get very frustrated when my "mind reading" capabilities clearly just don't work. One last thing I notice is there is always a couple drivers that make sure everyone else know they do not own a bolt in the truck and just pound the living guts out of them, very cringe worthy and thankful they aren't driving my truck. Thankyou for asking Steveo, how are things on your end?
I wish there was a floor cam / video to see your boots when you work the pedals and clutches.
rhymeandreasoning I think I'm going to make some kind of a how to type video where I explain what I'm doing. maybe I'll do that today?
Would be great. I like seeing the guys boots when he is working the pedals/ clutches and the shift stick..there is some kind of rhythm to it all, very interesting. My dad and alot of the men in my area growing up were truck drivers, we always knew when dad was close to coming into the drive way as we would hear his Jake brake as he was getting closer to home. -Kirk, in Montreal
I drive the same truck at work. I miss shifting
Ontario, right on! I saw the Perth South road sign, and wondered if this was Australia or Canada...but clearly you're driving on the right lol I'm a few hours from you and sounds like I learned backwards to how you did, I know reasonably well how to drive but no licence yet. One day (soon) I'll get to it. Great video!
Andrew O'Brien thanks for the comment. the rules are apparently changing very soon, and you're now required to do truck driver training to get your A in Ontario. act fast if you're able to, and save yourself eight grand!
Little navigator surely had fun..
I love the fact you have your child with u and believe it or not he will love trucks as well because I was in that position when growing up and trucks is my passion good luck and stay safe 🤍👍👍
Very nice...very nice and little boss liked the shotgun seat. Do you feel under powered in the 348, im considering one 370hp with auto trans and 16 foot dump bed.
Leaving 101st comment about trucking 101😎
Sir, I'm from Schnydered Truck Lines. We'd like to hire you. But we only hire Double Clutchers because they are more Eggselent Truck drivers.
Sorry you can't come work here wit all da goood dryvers.
LOL
Hahaha! That comment is getting pegged to the top! Thanks for the great comment!
I should set up my camera in my truck the same way and you wouldn't believe how my son and I look exactly like you two lol.
very well done young man.
Anthony Chavez thanks for the comment. I've been thinking about making one of those tutorial videos on how to shift.
Oh and on another note great content and great quality of videos keep it up 👍
Good driving. What do you use the truck for?
4th to lo on the high side eh? i caught that nice work.
Kevin Huff hey man. nah, this is a 10 speed. you basically just go through the gears twice... if I'm understanding what you're saying.
carlylea his transmission looks like an eaton 10 speed which is basically 5 speed with hi/lo gears so it has 10 gears u just flip to high and go through 1st-5th again for 6-10
Thumbs up on the video thank you for sharing :) :)
Ken Hayward I just uploaded a new video today. ua-cam.com/video/dd4s22TAER0/v-deo.html this is my attempt at a how to!
when you ease off the throttle that's when you shift and continue to do so all the way through and get back on the throttle before your Rpms drop!!! thanks I'm learning how to float just wanted to know for sure
I never actually take my foot off the throttle. I just back off on the throttle while shifting. I go from 75ish percent throttle to 40ish percent (or something like that). If you fully take your foot off the throttle, you wont shift smooth. If you don't shift smooth, you're going to be damaging your transmission and driveline.
thanks very much!!!! appreciated
Thanks for the video. I am curious to know did you learn to float by taking note of the RPM and when to shift or just learn by doing it?
Hope you got a cool plate for your co-driver lol
Stephen Wallace hey! I guess I kinda learned by doing it. I was never formally trained, and getting your licence in Ontario 15 years ago was a bit of a joke. I had my licence before I ever really drove a truck, so when I started driving I basically taught myself to float gears. I still can't use the clutch to shift - I never really learned how. 15 years later, and I haven't had a problem yet.
Cool, thanks for replying. I have my class 4 here in New Zealand and have driven trucks (rigid, no trailers) with just a manual transmission like a car... taught myself to double clutch, and now thinking about getting Class 5 which is truck/trailer licence so learning about the shifting via watching videos etc, and playing American Truck Simulator.. I know, not the same thing, but I love the big long nose trucks especially Kenworth W900, which is in the game, although I love the W900 Long (a mod) the most lol
One day I will get in the real thing!
Cheers
Stephen Wallace come for a trip to Canada, and I'll let you drive my Peterbilt! have a good one, and I'm glad you enjoyed my video.
Lol I wish... are you planning on doing more videos? Would like to see the outside of your truck and what sort of cab it is etc
Stephen Wallace I've been considering doing an actual 'how to' for floating gears... or at least how I do it. maybe I'll get my little copilot out on the weekend some time soon and do that!
How did you take off smoothly
+NOLAKID16 what do you mean?
carlylea he probably meant how did u pull off if I don't use the clutch, but you do for that.
I found this very fun to watch. Do you need a special license to drive this? I know it's a Class 6 truck but anything for Air Brakes, the 10-speed or a CDL for the trailer?
Hey! Here in Ontario, Canada, the required licence for this truck and trailer would be AZ. An A licence allows you to drive any truck and trailer combination. Any trailer with air breaks or exceeding 24,000 pounds requires the A. The Z enforcement is what you need to drive a vehicle with air breaks. Thanks for the comment, and I hope I cleared it up for you!
class 1 with a 15 restriction in BC in alberta you also need a special endorsement to pull the triple trailer and double 45' combination. nice video
Class a cdl in the states if it's a tractor - trailer. Class b if it's a straight truck. Unless it's registered and used as a farm vehicle. Then regular class d (what every auto drivers licence is).
That's how a semi is supposed to be driven in the first place.
How does it shift without the clutch???
Won't you t not shift or grind?
Uh....how did I get here?
Well, I guess now I know how to shift without a clutch on a 10-speed transmission truck. Correct me if I'm wrong:
Rev up to about 2/3 throttle, take it out of gear, let it fall to about half throttle, shift up, throttle up again to 2/3, N, fall to half, shift up, 2/3, N, 1/2, up.
Shifting down: let it fall to 1/2 throttle, take it out to neutral, rev up to 2/3, shift down, let it fall to 1/2, N, rev up to 2/3, shift down, etc.
Am I in the ballpark? You make it seem so easy.
Playbahnosh maybe watch my how to video which I made!
I honestly never thought of learning this, just clicking through some recommended videos and it caught my eye "I don't know how to use the clutch to shift", and I was like WTF, how do you even drive a manual then?! o.O But I did just watch your how-to video about "floating gears", I didn't know you can do that on a truck transmission. I doubt I'll ever use this in real life, but it's still really interesting. Thank you ^_^
Playbahnosh come to my place in Canada, and I'll let ya try it with my truck! Happy holidays, buddy.
Careful, I might just take you up on that someday ;) Hungary is still pretty far away, but if I'm ever in the neighborhood, I'll make sure to come say hi! Happy holidays!
More explanation would be good like on part 1
what does a 348 look like ? ? ?
ROSCOE PETTY google it it's better than trying to explain it
how you do floating the gear with out the clutch
go by the RPM split between gears. it varies between transmission types but lets pretend its 500 RPM difference between 8th and 9th on your transmission your'e going 90 kmh engine revolutions are 2000rpm. you let off the throttle as you pull the transmission into neutral you let the rpms drop to 1500 and it should go into the next gear up.
to shift down you do the opposite you bring the rpm's down to 1500 neutral then at 2000 rpm go into the lower gear.
I hope you'r not running your engine at those rpms but there nice round numbers. different types of transmissions have different rpm splits between gears but the split should remain constant all the way through.
russell richard thank you for the info I just go my permit and my first lesson today and it was pretty interested I was using abnormal 6 gear truck trailer today
good driver
you should practice with a 378 or 379 short hood
CAMARO_KYLE think I need the practice?
carlylea you said you dont know how to use the clutch
CAMARO_KYLE I don't really. I've never really used the clutch in the 15 years I've been driving. learned to drive without it when I started.
carlylea good to use the clutch as back up though
When your downshifting how low are the rpm before 1000-1200? And once in that range you can slide it out of current gear without clutch and just rev it up slightly before sliding it in to the next gear? Thx
Greg Bene hey! depends on whether I'm in a hurry or not. generally I downshift around 1500. and no, I do not use the clutch. simply mesh the rpm and it will easily fall out of gear. then rev up another 500 ish rpm and drop it into the next.
carlylea thx for the quick reply. I'm from southern Ontario myself and new to the truck scene. Was driving Plow last winter for the Miller Group 10 spd manual. And now starting up with Ontario Redimix in couple weeks also manual. Know how to drive just need to finesse the shifting without clutch.
You will make out just fine, I can already tell you that. You are obviously interested in driving, and in my opinion, that's all you need. I've been meaning to make a new 'how to' video for floating gears, but I just haven't got around to it yet.
Change dash and steering wheel to the right and ad a bull bar put dad in passenger little dude in driver and that’s me double clutching around my house
American trucks have such a narrow cabin compared to the European trucks
The94GTC You have a lot of European trucks with a conventional cabin, but they are also larger than the American truck
2024 anyone?
My car is wider than that child's truck
the cab is narrow on a peterbilt or kenworth, not all trucks. and no your car is not wider.
Eric M All our American trucks are narrow cabins and Peterbilt and Kenworth are owned by the European DAF truck company Mack is owned by Volvo Freightliner is owned by Mercedes Benz .... and all other truck brands are owned by European Truck companies
Eric M European trucks have 5 stairs in the cabin and our Americas are only two European ones are much larger and wider than American trucks The American truck is smaller and narrower and narrower for one axle than the European truck although although it has a watch in front of the cabin
what im saying in peterbilts and kenworths are known to have narrow cabins, all others are much bigger. The trucks are 2.6 ms wide from mirror to mirror. There built for north american roads not European. Id take a kenworth t800 any day over any european truck, but thats because im from north americca. Not a fan of coe trucks, they're ugly :P. And not many "children" i see that can float gears in a truck, legally anyway
Kenworth 100 is cabover
First you Pushed the Clutch And you use the shifter My Dad Know To use the Clutch
Why do Americans hate the clutch so much?
It's not a matter of hating the clutch, the less you use it the less you'll ever have to replace it. YOu can go ten years easy without ever having to replace your clutch if you only use it to start up your truck. If you use your clutch every time you switch gears it will not last as long. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong though.
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