FOOLPROOF Guide for Nasty SPIN on SLICE SERVE (Beginner, Intermediate, & Advanced Method)

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  • The slice serve can be lethal both by itself and as a changeup. From basic mechanics, to disguise, to increasing your snap at contact, we build your slice serve one step at a time. There's an enormous advantage to be gained, not only with margin of error but spreading the court and opening up opportunities.
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  • @JetsetJive7
    @JetsetJive7 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video... the 2pm 3pm toss did the trick for me, now I can serve without so much pain.

  • @grokker99
    @grokker99 Рік тому +1

    Ive seen a lot of slice serve tennis videos and this is the best. especially the bonus insight at end of never breaking wrist, which takes away all the power from a service.

  • @at1838
    @at1838 Рік тому +1

    I love stop & pop! You're the first person I've heard talk about this, and it's a game changer.

  • @TomRoyce
    @TomRoyce 5 років тому +6

    I watched this video in the afternoon and took it on to the court for my match tonight. The tip on not breaking the wrist was exactly what I needed and focusing on the slice form worked. I only double faulted twice in 6 service games and had 10+ aces and most of my serves we not returned, and when they were, it was an easy put away by my partner at net. Thanks!

  • @robertblount1377
    @robertblount1377 5 років тому +9

    I really appreciate your understanding of the mechanics of each shot and especially your ability to get us to feel the stroke with your nuanced explanations of the basic principles of what is really going on with the stroke.

  • @boarini2003
    @boarini2003 5 років тому +9

    I always hit a flat serve down the T from the Ad side and never really considered a slice. I will have to practice this!

  • @andrewcampbell2903
    @andrewcampbell2903 7 днів тому

    A great video . I can slice but until now I haven’t had a good feel for it . I will go out tomorrow and try to use your concepts which you explained and demonstrated very clearly . Best wishes from New Zealand .

  • @Tilly-Cat-2
    @Tilly-Cat-2 Рік тому +1

    Just want to say thank you for uploading this. I'm a club / league player and have watched many many UA-cam clips from coaches in the hope to get a consistent second serve spin / slice serve, without much success (week in week out). Your three detailed simple steps have made a huge difference and ultimately made (what used to be) a complicated action in to a very simple straightforward second serve action. Thank you:)

  • @laurencecorray
    @laurencecorray 3 роки тому

    Bloody brilliant, you have nailed it for me! "stop and pop”, you see it clearly in Sampras' serve!

  • @vectorthurm
    @vectorthurm 5 років тому +1

    Your discussion and demonstration of slice strike zone beginning around the 7 min mark is very good! That is a very powerful demonstration visually! Thank you for doing this video!

  • @charlesdang2557
    @charlesdang2557 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, it's 2021 and I've seen so many tennis videos, but yours right here is top notch in editing and incredibly helpful. Your advice is easy to understand, easy to implement, and so effective. Thanks bro

  • @littleforest7696
    @littleforest7696 4 роки тому +4

    Such good teaching I swear. Your words are very well versed and it allows me to fully understand and apply your information. Really good video. THANK YOU!!!

  • @sallehwahab1962
    @sallehwahab1962 5 років тому +4

    Perfect explaination and very helpful. Thanks a lot

  • @edreyes5381
    @edreyes5381 4 місяці тому

    I truly learn a lot of new concepts with your videos that turn out to be really helpful. Thank you for all you do to provide information that is very useful for all of us trying to learn the nuances of the game.

  • @MizzoniDojo
    @MizzoniDojo 4 роки тому

    Love your videos. Thanks for going over the theory that's the most important thing for teaching

  • @wallylam8888
    @wallylam8888 3 роки тому +1

    I really like your teaching method, very clear and simple to understand. Thank you from Canada.

  • @sandylamba2546
    @sandylamba2546 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!! I really appreciate the detailed way you taught the serve!!

  • @observador145
    @observador145 5 років тому

    Good job on this Steven! Thanks for posting!

  • @FilABernal63
    @FilABernal63 5 років тому +1

    I often use the spin serve but your video helped me understand WHY and HOW it works Also, love the "pop & stop" tip!

  • @chetan417
    @chetan417 2 роки тому

    Great post, practical and enjoyable video. Tried it in match and worked incredibly well for me!

  • @jatuttable
    @jatuttable 5 років тому

    Very informative! I've watched 7 or 8 slice serve videos... This is the best. Subscribed!

  • @arrzhong
    @arrzhong 5 років тому +1

    truely valuable, thank you very much.

  • @ginawilliams7577
    @ginawilliams7577 10 місяців тому

    Excellent instructional video, thank you! Haven't come across your videos before but now subscribed. Looking forward watching more!

  • @manjucs2331
    @manjucs2331 5 років тому +1

    Very well explained. Thanks

  • @AlejandroRodriguez-rk6xt
    @AlejandroRodriguez-rk6xt 2 роки тому +1

    You are doing an incredible job!

  • @sairaghavan7950
    @sairaghavan7950 3 роки тому

    This pop and stop really helped me visualize the slice serve. Thanks

  • @movethelittleprince
    @movethelittleprince 5 років тому +5

    Thanks a huge!
    Very helpful

  • @michellem9392
    @michellem9392 Рік тому

    Excellent video! It's just what I need to practice this weekend ‼️‼️‼️

  • @jomserve
    @jomserve 5 років тому +5

    Kick serve is my natural. I struggle with the slice. Thanks man.

  • @jamesmurphy2304
    @jamesmurphy2304 5 років тому +1

    Your slice serve demo is excellent!

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 3 роки тому

    Thanks for for explaining the mechanics in a way we can understand

  • @denisgosselin2836
    @denisgosselin2836 5 років тому +1

    I ike your explanation and tips, will practice this out. thx.

  • @francisdavy6485
    @francisdavy6485 5 років тому +2

    This was really helpful;! Your explaining the slice serve in view of the groundstroke slice was very insightful. thanks so much. You are terrific, especially for a young guy!.

  • @gehadqaki
    @gehadqaki 5 років тому +2

    Awesome video man. The details are huge

  • @tennis47
    @tennis47 5 років тому

    Great work! you are really a good coach !

  • @rucas10
    @rucas10 Рік тому

    Amazing video !
    Excellent tips !

  • @claudioneisouza5966
    @claudioneisouza5966 3 роки тому +3

    Muito super, vou me esforçar o máximo e seguir suas orientações, grato.

  • @taivan9132
    @taivan9132 4 роки тому +1

    I love the way you teach,already sub.Thank you ! From Brisbane

  • @danielgomezgarzon
    @danielgomezgarzon 5 років тому

    Great video !! Thank you !!!

  • @robertasinger5951
    @robertasinger5951 5 років тому +1

    I’m playing today and will try this out! Thx!❤️

  • @cmarqz1
    @cmarqz1 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant!

  • @jeanbertrand68
    @jeanbertrand68 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation, on the whrist snap . Good job.

  • @johnsayarath3983
    @johnsayarath3983 2 роки тому

    Thanks for a great lesson.

  • @alandavis927
    @alandavis927 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video!

  • @johnlyndsay
    @johnlyndsay 2 роки тому

    Excellent! Thanks.

  • @firmgreeninc7481
    @firmgreeninc7481 3 місяці тому

    Great tips. Working with a grip change to a true continental grip and the Stop and Pop drill has changed my spin serve from average to a weapon. Thanks

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  2 місяці тому

      I put out some serve videos early 2023 that have much better instruction for building the arm motion. Glad this one helped

  • @Mrtinili
    @Mrtinili 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for saving my wrist! You are a teaching genius!

  • @putiner2039
    @putiner2039 3 роки тому

    one of the best coaches out there

  • @bkatbamna
    @bkatbamna 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you. Great video. I'm a lefty and I don't have the movement on my slice serve that I should.

  • @anhvu3780
    @anhvu3780 3 роки тому +1

    stop n pop is really hard but I have to keep practicing b/c it will help me to find a sweet spot for other serves and overhead. thanks for the tip. subscribed.

  • @Krwler
    @Krwler 5 років тому +1

    Best kick serve video I’ve watched. And I’ve watched them all.

  • @henrylove514
    @henrylove514 2 роки тому

    Please make more videos! Love your videos.

  • @eyesonthetube
    @eyesonthetube 4 роки тому

    really nice lesson, man!

  • @johnny6148
    @johnny6148 4 роки тому +1

    excellent lesson

  • @songsong4356
    @songsong4356 2 роки тому

    Good video. Thank you

  • @HaInspiration
    @HaInspiration Рік тому

    SUBSCRIBED & 👍 - Thanks so much for your steps!

  • @CahalanTennis
    @CahalanTennis 5 років тому +4

    You make it look so easy. Perhaps I ought integrate your stop-and-pop concept into my practice sessions.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Stop and pop is good for every stroke... esp to hone contact point!

  • @Studio42Brooklyn
    @Studio42Brooklyn Місяць тому

    amazing!

  • @hankphillips5033
    @hankphillips5033 4 роки тому

    Really good stuff

  • @davidhlin3023
    @davidhlin3023 4 роки тому

    Excellent tips! Stop and pop. Reminds me how Bruce Lee generated so much power in his one inch punch.

  • @traderjoe6195
    @traderjoe6195 5 років тому

    Great tip on throwing the ball out too far will pancake the slice, I had a nasty slice but since I messed around with adding pace I totally screwed my slice serve . Now I know why it's more flat than slicing .!

  • @andreandree4384
    @andreandree4384 5 років тому

    interesting video on slice serve !!! (from paris)... :)

  • @alfettaracer7811
    @alfettaracer7811 5 років тому +1

    Thx very helpfull

  • @_MichaelJordan
    @_MichaelJordan 5 років тому +15

    “Snapping the wrist” is the most misunderstood and mis-taught technique in tennis. My first few years playing, the pros at my local club would always say “snap your wrist to get the ball down!” on my serve.
    I took this to mean bending my wrist, and almost everybody else I play with at 3.5 thinks this as well. It wasn’t until I injured my wrist exactly where it bends, did I do further research and figured out they were teaching us to pronate wrong. Not because they didn’t know how to do it correctly, but because it just happens so naturally for them they figured everybody would know not to bend the wrist like that when you “snap” through.
    I wish more people would bring light on how to correctly pronate, because the majority of people do it wrong and are going to injure their wrist at some point.
    So thank you for actually showing how to do it correctly.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому +3

      Thx for commenting.. spot on!

    • @markokokus3153
      @markokokus3153 5 років тому +1

      Everybody different on technique and technique for novice and advance is different as well.Hitting your sweet spot is so important. I'm learning by playing more. Playing makes your technique bcuz it develops your style

    • @johnny6148
      @johnny6148 4 роки тому

      amazing how many players don't pronate. i guess they never threw a rock!

  • @sonnyyombo2230
    @sonnyyombo2230 11 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @FairwayJack
    @FairwayJack Рік тому +1

    good stuff

  • @tomdineen7
    @tomdineen7 5 років тому +1

    U r very honest. I love your videos. All these other videos showing pros like Federer are unrealistic for the average bear. Your videos reach home for the person who cannot throw a ball. The Throwing motion is essential for the big serve- Which I do not possess 😩

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Thx Thomas! Agreed and part of me demoing concepts is to show non super talented people can do it too.. or at least improve to some degree. My throwing motion was atrocious growing up.. you’ll get it over time

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r 2 роки тому

    i like your serve

  • @yunchan8807
    @yunchan8807 5 років тому +1

    Thanks

  • @josellorens3553
    @josellorens3553 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for the tip on the pronation when striking the ball on the serve. Need to make sure that the wrist is not injured.

    • @EbolaStew
      @EbolaStew 3 роки тому

      Yes that was very helpful for me to understand pronation on the serve. I think I have been breaking my wrist to do it. Can't wait to practice the stop and pop and then proper pronation. This channel and the 2Minute channel seem most helpful to me.

  • @TheGeohart
    @TheGeohart 5 років тому

    are you looking for a more discreet slice, or more dynamic slice, should not one be aiming at a more demonic slice...(lol). But that is, just me. Love the channel, your a great coach!

  • @topage777
    @topage777 3 роки тому

    thank u

  • @Minifridge147
    @Minifridge147 4 роки тому

    Very good tutorial. You are very good at analyzing down to the finest detail, and those littlest things are what makes it that much better. Excellent cant wait to try it tomorrow. I am subscribed. Question it looks like you are not worried about speed more on technique. Is it because you are showing how to do it do you hit them faster or just going for more placement and action? Thanks

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  4 роки тому

      Not 100% sure I got the question right but I generally like focusing on getting the technique right before hitting harder... my mistake early on was trying to swing too fast w out fundamentals and everything kept breaking down. Thx for subscribing!

  • @omkkarmallesh7020
    @omkkarmallesh7020 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @svarodzic
    @svarodzic Місяць тому

    +1 for the effort. Your slice serve is effective only b/c you are playing againts low level players. It has nothing on it. Doesn't even have a 2nd boundce into the fence, which means it is raughly 70-80mph. Every top level serve, and I mean every flat, slice or kick has pronation. If there is no pronation - it is not the correct serve technique. In this light it is very funny how you compare your serve (which doesn't even have the right kinematic) to Federer's.

  • @lowgascostsorangeman2688
    @lowgascostsorangeman2688 5 років тому +1

    Watched it all the way through. Great way to get aces if hit correctly but if too weak it can be returned viciously crosscourt. Nice points but it takes lot of practice but is very important to win a match.

    • @JK-wz7uj
      @JK-wz7uj 5 років тому

      I noticed this too, be ready to run right to get their return.

  • @mickeway
    @mickeway Рік тому

    Hi, I learned from you how to get tremendous spin on the slice serve. Can you explain how to get that kind of spin on a twist serve, spinning it to the right instead?

  • @vaiyapurivs9371
    @vaiyapurivs9371 2 роки тому

    Veryfinepractice

  • @paulfennell77
    @paulfennell77 5 років тому +1

    Really enjoyed this video. You referred to a 'stop and pop' video, but I couldn't find it. Also a suggestion: add an 'About' section to your website with a short bio. Doesn't have to be your resume, could just be how you came to tennis and how you developed your philosophy (you've got interesting stuff to say, so should be no problem). And maybe make it easier to find your full name. Not on instagram, and only 'Steven' is available in the contact section on your website. Was beginning to think you were in witness protection.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Thx for the suggestion! Stop and pop video coming in the future!

  • @user-be5qg7mr1s
    @user-be5qg7mr1s 3 роки тому

    good but how do I get more sidespin on the deuce side for a righty? Less flat power but rather pull them off the court?

  • @mpmp7609
    @mpmp7609 Рік тому

    Hi, really thanks for your tips and advices....
    I do slice "quite" well but don't understand what ypu said on the wirst "don't break" cause for me the energy transfer comes from legs , body turn ... and finally the wirst (for me). I do an acceleration with the wirst just before the contact point to make the more effe t i can but don't understand HOW can i produce the slice effect with pronation. When i do slice serve my wirst go straight on but absolutely NO pronation. As if the 2 mouvement were a contradiction for me in fact.
    BUT ! Curiously i suffer a lot with my elbow and speciallyon serve !
    Surely a thing that i do bad , thing i misunderstood so if you could illuminate my poor brain and help me to fix it, i would thank you a lot .
    Hurry to see your answer , and thank for your vid that you certainly do with passion. I ,we, can feel it. So thanks a lot.

  • @marcmarc5217
    @marcmarc5217 2 роки тому

    Hey Coach Steve, I try it out early this morning but was only able to do the under arm spin but when I tried the slice serve I was able to get it in the service box but did not spin in any direction what am I doing wrong?? I come on the ball at around 2 o'clock .

  • @speedmishra13
    @speedmishra13 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great tip! Is the “don’t ever break your wrist” only meant for a slice serve or all serves?

  • @LubaLuba1
    @LubaLuba1 5 років тому +1

    Thank you Coach Steven I will keep an eye out for contact video. Also what bevel side should my index knuckle be on bevel side 1? or side 2? or right corner of bevel 1.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Luba, my grips video is a ways out.. tough to ans bc various terminology for grips. My suggestion is to use a grip that naturally gives you spin, even experiment w BH grip to feel the extreme. Idk your situation but pancake grips and or lack of tricep/forearm strength are biggest inhibitors from learning kick or slice serve.

    • @LubaLuba1
      @LubaLuba1 5 років тому

      thanks but backhand topspin grip? or flat grip? basically the index knuckle should be on side 1?

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Sry I’d have to see a diagram. But yeah anything that allows you to pronate without breaking ur wrists

    • @LubaLuba1
      @LubaLuba1 5 років тому

      15 Points Of Tennis so when you say don't break your wrist you mean physically pronate but don't hurt myself? or keep in hammer holding position at contact?

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      I explain briefly in the online program.. basically cocked, neutral and broken wrist positions. Strong in cocked and neutral but weak in broken. Try holding ur hand palm up then turn to palm down. You can use your forearm without breaking wrist. I’ll likely do a vid down the road involving this again

  • @willa5701
    @willa5701 5 років тому +1

    Good video! When I first started using the slice, the ball had a hard break and kicked off the court or into my opponent's backhand while I'm on the AD side...I'm a lefty...now here lately, the ball has just been floating into the court and I feel like i'm doing the same motion as before. Also i'm double faulting a lil more than before as well cause I'm trying to get my slice back to where it was before. Any suggestions on how to fixed that?

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому +1

      Lots of variables on the serve.. if u shoot me a clip of ur serve I can repost it with my feedback on 15 points of tennis Instagram

    • @willa5701
      @willa5701 5 років тому

      @@15PointsOfTennis cool thanks! i'll see if i can get something out to you soon.

  • @felixpitre9784
    @felixpitre9784 2 роки тому

    Wish you could show the exercise in slo mo. Thanks. Beginner in 70’s

  • @LubaLuba1
    @LubaLuba1 5 років тому +2

    There's much confusion at exact contact of ball if you could put up your slice in slow motion do a few for a behind and few from the side I think I would understand better also should the wrist be loose thumb wrap around and index finger spread upward on handle.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Ton of variations how players hold grips so idk... will do a separate vid on strike zone and position of strength so stay tuned!

  • @chopp2042
    @chopp2042 5 років тому +1

    listen to the pro, ace on second serve!

  • @jeffjeffersons4640
    @jeffjeffersons4640 5 років тому

    first class

  • @CyprusPete
    @CyprusPete 3 роки тому

    👏👏👏

  • @yakzivz1104
    @yakzivz1104 3 роки тому

    Serena and Stosur also toss the ball at 12 for all of their serves as well.

  • @LubaLuba1
    @LubaLuba1 5 років тому +2

    Also at 12 at the baseline there isn't much forward power so I think you need to toss into the court a lil

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Tossing into the court has some nuance as well. An idea for a future vid!

  • @LeaveAsItIs
    @LeaveAsItIs 3 роки тому

    So there is no arm pronation in slice serve? I don’t see that even in Federer’s serve. I mean after slicing the ball arm turning doesn’t have an impact on the ball. At the point of contact no pronation happening?

  • @bzockster
    @bzockster 4 дні тому

    I notice that you’re choked up on the racquet during the demos. I feel that I can increase racquet head speed with a choked up grip. What are your thoughts?

  • @pacerdave7838
    @pacerdave7838 5 років тому +1

    Not clear where on the ball you start to hit left to right. Inside and around, like 9-3? Outside starting at 3 and around? Please clarify

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      The clock analogy refers to the toss/contact point. Ball will curve the opposite direction at which you brush it.

    • @pacerdave7838
      @pacerdave7838 5 років тому

      Ok but I was looking for where on the clock I start. I assume 3 o’clock I brush right to left

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Yes, for me it’s easiest to start at 3 o’clock to feel the spin. Then slowly move it up to 12 if you decide to learn disguise.

  • @KENGHUABAI
    @KENGHUABAI 5 років тому

    Can you show us how to pronate after ball contact? I can slice the ball really hard but my follow through is not pronation.

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      If u can, send me a clip of ur serve on Instagram.. I’ll take a look. Will prob be a future video

  • @schachoe
    @schachoe 3 роки тому

    Still trying to figure out this stop and pop.

  • @ahnguyen1
    @ahnguyen1 4 роки тому

    what usta level are you?

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s 5 років тому +1

    I wish someone could super slow-motion the ball spinning in flight.

  • @jchangesqlawcenter
    @jchangesqlawcenter 5 років тому

    How do you get such a fluid snap?

    • @15PointsOfTennis
      @15PointsOfTennis  5 років тому

      Thanks for asking Jacob.. the next series of videos will be focused around the wrist.