You know Bastion is a new level of evil when even Dr. Doom says "That's too much." Also, that Spiderman cameo was insane, and so was Wolverine and Nightcrawler's team up.
To anyone claiming that Magneto's beef should be with Bastion and Sinister rather than all of humanity, the UN literally bankrolled them to make super sentinels. And then the whole thing about the nations of the world turning against Genosha instead of supporting the victims of this tragedy.
As any generalisation, it doesn't work like that. You can't persecute all mutans, because of Magneto's actions or any villain who is a mutant . You can't persecute all humans for choices of their governments. It goes both ways.
You can't say it goes both ways when the "choices" mutants are persecuted for is fighting back because they were already being persecuted for what they were born as. It is indeed not every single person, but consider that Bastion's massive army is made up of regular people who, even if they did not know they would be made into monsters, willingly signed up for a mutant hate group. That is not even getting into groups like the FOH. Fear and hatred of Magneto's kind is not just a government policy and it is understandable that he would see most of human-kind as his enemy.
@@somestuff7876Thats literrally how was work. And really the whole world has a problem with mutans, as showed in this episode. Roberto and Jubilee being detained by a supremacist part of a irregular militia and everyone thinking that he is the good guy there. Humans do have a war of extermination on mutants.
@@joelsasmad do you guys seriously don't feel any bit of irony in your logic? Ok, those kids, that now have sentinels for parents - do they deserve death in a plane crash for their parent's choice (more like "choice")? I'm pretty sure we would both say no. So what percentage of exceptions like this or supports groups (hypocritical like Roberto's parents and a real ones) should be around the world to not doom all? What the critical number on "bad" mutans that would justify fighting back against more powerful future usurpers like Magneto that could doom whole planet in a blink of an eye... Justifications like that ones are dangerous. And they do go both ways. Regarding Magneto. Is it understandable? Yes. Is that true? No. We can't use one crime to justify the next one. We can say that we saw it coming, Hell, maybe numbers of dead people on "both sides" now somewhat even. Doesn't make it right or even fair.
@@somestuff7876 No one "deserves" any of this, and I'm not saying Magneto isn't extreme, but until both sides can find a way towards peace mutants are justified to fight back. As terrible as what happened to those kids was, if Magneto did nothing the X-Men would have been overwhelmed and the future Cable told them about would have come to pass where all mutants are enslaved. Also it is just as much if not moreso on Bastion for turning them into Sentinels.
X-Men fans have never been spoiled this much outside of comics in history! Whether it’s the deadly tag team of Nightcrawler and Wolverine, the Summers Family fighting a horde of Prime Sentinels, Bastion’s on screen debut as one of the the biggest and most formidable villains in Marvel history, Magneto proving again why he’s one of the most OP characters in comics history, and Charles Xavier ending the episode with “To me my X-men”. *AND THIS IS JUST PART ONE!!!!!*
While kidnapping people is in character for these villains, that is never stated and I genuinely think it is way more horrifying and meaningful when you consider that this massive army of Sentinels hidden just under the surface all across the country are people hiding anti mutant sentiment. Even if they didn't know what would be done to them they still signed up for essentially a massive hate group.
In a season where Magneto says fire lines every episode its pretty cool that "Enough" speaks the loudest of them all. Helps when that line is delivered in a frozen tundra, in essential booty shorts while drastically altering the planet's magnetic pull.
Nimrod was in the original animated series. Hes the reason we first meet Bishop in that show. He comes back to the past to stop Nimrod from assassinating Senator Kelley.
Not quite: Mystique was the one that was going to assassinate Kelly. Nimrod followed Bishop back in time to stop him. Later, there was another episode where Nimrod tries to go back in time to try to kill Xavier.
Nightcrawler was the MVP in this episode because his fight scenes were absolute perfection! It was animated wonderfully and it will go down as one of the biggest highlights of the season. Now also adding the SPIDER-MAN cameo and I'm fairly confident in saying that this was an incredible episode full of everything I ever wanted out of an X-Men animated series episode. Seeing 90's Spider-Man again was just so special. My childhood hero came back to me as cool as ever. Incredible episode with an equally incredible Magneto moment at the very end, 10/10!
You know you're evil when even Dr Doom is going "Alright bro, ya doing too much". Seriously though glad y'all are finally getting to enjoy this series. Can promise without spoilers the last two episodes are also straight bangers.
Bastion’s mother was made to look like a woman who was in the original series (I believe it was the Ep with Nimrod, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) but the fact they even thought to do a thing like that; blows me mind. This show is incredible…
Yeah, and Sinister is over seeing the conversion process. Their word is rightfully suspect. You'd certainly want prime sentinels sleeper agents close to high valued targets by hook or by crook.
The speech from Cooper really sold me. It reminded me of a similar speech in V for Vendetta, that moment the detective realizes that every event up to that point is connected and that it could only lead to a single outcome - revolution. What's sad is she's right. Tragedies like the one in Genosha play out repeatedly no matter what the mutants do to recover and put walls up to protect themselves. It's their destiny to be victims. Even Deadpool can see it.
In the comics, when Magneto EMPs the whole world (the "Fatal Attractions" crossover), he interrupted The Thing in the bath tub. Here, they made it Spidey.
the "magneto was right" speech and "enough" was so chilling and epic in a way i haven't experienced with anything else in quite a while. spiderman appeared but I was like "MAGNETO TURNED OFF THE EARTH OMFG" 😂
After watching this episode my boss told me it was the best show animated or otherwise that he’s seen in years. I then got to drop the news that this was only part 1 of a 3 part finale. He was so stoked! Lol
Neanderthals were around way before us. Hundreds of thousands of years in some scientific dating. Even tho Neanderthals had larger space for brains, our ancestors replaced them as they evolved with different survival skills that had evolved. Ultimately our ancestors interbred with them and our genes were the dominant leading to the extinction of Neanderthals eventually. But several humans today (who’s ancestors came from both Europe and Asia) still carry trace elements of Neanderthal DNA that is responsible for things like: red hair, blue eyes, different disease immunity, etc. lots of anthropological studies and articles on the subject if you’re interested.
Re: Trish. Bastion mentioned reaching out to people expressing certain viewpoints in chatrooms and such. She may have been investigating anti-mutant rhetoric, got an "invite", but because of the whole "they forget they were ever here" thing, she doesn't remember the procedure and thought she had hit a dead-end. Or maybe she was kidnapped and infected since she has access to the X-Men, again, with no memory of that happening. As for Bastion's origins, watch the OG series 2-parter "One Man's Worth", it'll all make sense then.
Not ALL of the sentinels are volunteers. Trask didn't know he was one. Some of them were forced against their will. Also Mystique is Kurts biological mother, but Rogue's adoptive mother.
I think it also adds that Bastion said they volunteered as he was talking to Valerie. And is at least semi trying to keep her on his side as much as possible.
The way it was explained they were more mundane racists who did volunteer for something along the lines of a hate group. They didn't know they were going to be made into monsters.
I grew up with X-Men: Evolution, and one of the most memorable episodes that still sticks in my mind is the one where Forge creates a device to slow down Nightcrawler's teleportation, so they can study the dimension he travels through. And we get shots of him slowly floating through a hell dimension, until a creature escapes because the portal stayed open too long, and all hell literally breaks loose. Man, I miss Evolution.
Yes, we actually lost a war to emus - simply outlasted us, as 2500 rounds for 200 deaths didn't go down well with the bean counters. Subsequent requests to the army were greeted with a resounding hell no, and putting bounties out had no luck either. So the giant scary birds still roam pretty much where they want to - they never forgot they were dinosaurs back in the day...
OG timeline > Regular Sentenls because Senator Kelley was assasinated, led to bad future> Timetravel to change the assasination led to a new timeline where MM is created and sentenls are more advanced which led to Nimrod who was > sent back in time to Kill Professor X before he was stronger which led to a new future which led to bastion when Nimrod infected the janitor. At the same time this is going on Apocalypse is using time travel , so is Cable and Both of them and Nimrod are using Mr Sinister to create the conditions which led to this whole thing. Cable only exists because the war started and the wars changed because of Cable and Bishop and it is making changes constantly. A dynamic time war.
Nimrod is supposed to the ultimate sentinel. He’s the final, most badass form of sentinel from the future, where Bishop comes from. According to this show, Nimrod, or a version of it, traveled back to the past, infected some dude’s wiener with science robot stuff, and that dude’s now-sentinel wiener made a baby that grew up to be Bastion
The problem Bastion and the F.o.H. have is that they see mutants as something separate from humanity that is trying to wipe them out. They can't see that mutants aren't "other," mutants are their children. My Hero Academia is the other side of that coin. Humanity (seemingly) embraced the special gifts their children were being born with (with some specific exceptions). They didn't see it as a new species trying to replace them.
Yeah, if anything they should have worked on putting up protective lines ahead of time around last remaining non-powered humans. Because those unlucky people would be at huge disadvantage in their day-to-day lives. It would be more akin to minority of people, that are living with disabilities.
yeah, and the X gene it's actually DNA from a dead Celestial, that leaked into the sea and eventually mixed with the first life forms DNA, the thing is, it's so diluated and take so long for inteligent life evolve, that the x gene got dormant for a long time, but eventually begins to activate and becomes dominant... that's why more and more mutants are born over time, and that's why the Sentinel program eventually goes way wire and rogue, turning against it's human handlers, begining to set its own directives, leading to humans also being targeted due genetics.
That's something that's always bothered me about any sci-fi "mutant/next step in evolution/etc." stories (like The Tomorrow People, for instance). They always refer to the mutants as if they were a separate species; but that's not how species work. To be honest, species don't even exist, and are just our human attempts to categorize things better so we can more easily understand them. We have many different definitions of species to try and account for every exception that we find when we use a prior definition. But *none* of those definitions would make mutants a different species... well, mostly. (Sorry to Glob Herman and possibly Kurt...) Genetically, their genes are compatible with non-mutant humans', and they often interbreed. Their children can also reproduce. That alone satisfies the typical definition of being the same species. They also have almost all the same DNA, within allele tolerance, except for the single X-Gene mutation. From a morphological standpoint, most mutants also have almost all the same phenotypes as other humans (again... sorry Glob and Kurt). So basically... mutants can be considered either a human subspecies (which, the term we use for that for humans is usually "race") or simply a phenotypical difference. So saying they are a "new species" is like saying white people are a "new species" from Black people since we evolved later; or, alternatively, it's like saying redheads are a "new species". So the allegory for racism is even more appropriate than you might think, since mutants are, in fact, just another race of the same human species as everyone else.
@@IceMetalPunk i hate to disagree cuz you do have some very good points, but mutants obviously need to have vastly different sections of DNA that is different from each other and especially from humans. Mutant powers are genetic and they are inheritable. sometimes the children get the powers of one parent like all of the summer kids inheriting Jeans telepathy and telekinesis, there is also traits that run in bloodlines that make members of some mutant family's immune to the powers of those within that family like the summers and the frosts. i can't think of an example at the moment but sometimes the powers of two mutants mix so the child gets a bit of both parents. and yes sometimes the child has wholly unique powers. but more than we know that humans reproduced with other human species specially Neanderthals and i believe potentially one other type of exitnict human species. we still carry their dna. But for an extant group of closely related species we have Wolves, Coyotes, and Dogs. all 3 are different species, all three can interbreed and their offspring are fertile and can have their own offsprings. so that isn't so different. (oh i forgot jackels also belong to the Canis genus and they too can interbreed with their fellow canis members.) another example from the Genus Pan are chimpanzees and bonobos. both of these guys are different species and they can interbreed. i'm sure if we look we can find others if we look. but it's important to note that while all these example are different species that belong to the same genus not all members of a genus can produce fertile offspring. in the panthera genus the various big cats can interbreed but the males are generally infertile. then we get to the equines whose hybrids are always sterile. so in the end genetics are just complicated and the ability to interbreed isn't a clear cut distinction between what makes two creatures part of the same species or different species. The X gene is just the most well known differnce between humans and mutants but for any mutant powers there has to be a ton of various genes needed to regulate and control those powers. every power they have that they have must be activated in some way. that would require special pathways to regulate. most mutant powers can be deactivated regulatory pathways need to exist to be able to do that. mutants sometimes have secondary mutations or multiple primary abilities. you would need special pathway to choose which power you are going to use. all of that has be inscribed in their dna. some mutants like angel need to develop special organs and muscles all of that needs to be in their genetic code. so there is way more than just a single gene difference between humans and mutants. unless you think we have the cellular pathway and hormones needed to throw a telekinetic punch, turning your skin into diamonds, convert sound into light, growing claws out hands, controlling a pair of wings, and teleporting already in our dna. i highly doubt it. each mutant maybe be their own subspecies, but they clearly have many many genes that we dont have. from a quick google search eye color alone is controlled by 16 different genes. if it takes 16 genes just to pick our eye color how many total genes do you think it takes to control the entirety of the ability of our eyes to function? now imagine how many genes would be needed to control a single mutant ability and many mutants have either multiple abilites or part of their abilities enchance them beyond human standard. all of that would be tied to our dna and controlled and regulated by different genes.
I think the reporter was never all in with mutants. She is a skeptic and Bastion likely sold the volunteering as a benign thing for some and more militant for others. Wide net
28:05 - While holding the council in the sky, Magneto said, “Do not make me let you down!” Both meaning that he was trying to be better AND that they would die if he dropped them from that height! 😊
The reporter was genuine and whenever she was taken, like one of you suggested, it wasn't likely by her choice or she was tricked into what she was walking into. She does have a sympathetic spot for mutants and never shows any evidence that she'd be lying really. Remember, the person's mind is wiped of it ever happening, so they don't know they are a human sentinel. The only thing that it would mean then is she was lying about being friendly with mutants, but what does that get her? A lot of humans are afraid/hate mutants. I'm sure there's viewership for people who favor them, but she's a reporter, not a studio head that makes those decisions. Based on what is shown, the reporter is genuine, and when the switch is flipped by Hank discovering where all the human sentinels are, she gets forcefully activated as well and fights for bastion against her likely will. Why people pull weird conclusions not based on evidence but because you have a crappy judgemental assumption is well beyond me.
The reporter, Trish, likely followed a lead or tried to get an inside scoop by either going undercover or by volunteering just to see what Bastion was proposing, not knowing that she would loose her free will in the process.
27:23 - Mystique’s kids: - Rogue was taken in by Mystique when her human parents threw her out after they found out she was a mutant. She kissed her first boyfriend (Cody) and put him in a coma. Mystique then raised her to be part of the brotherhood. Rogue mostly knew Mystique as her “mamma,” Raven Darkholme, as Mystique rarely her true blue-skinned self at the time, keeping a humanoid form. - Nightcrawler - Mystique was in disguise and married to a rich count (secretly the half-demon mutant Azazel, but she didn’t know that at the time), when she gave birth to their blue furred son, Nightcrawler. Being exposed as a mutant and ruining her peaceful life, she threw Kurt off a cliff and ran for her life, more easily disguised without having to carry a baby around. Found and raised in a gypsy circus, Kurt learned acrobatics until he was chased from there. Eventually, he found acceptance in a small monestary until Logan and Rogue met him there and fought against the racism of one monk there who saw him as a demon. Later, Rogue and Nightcrawler went on a mission and found out they were adopted siblings (Mystique kinda adopted Rogue) and found out who their brother is. - Grayden Creed is their Human son who founded the Friends of Humanity hate group, and who hates his mutant parents, Mystique and Victor Creed, aka Sabertooth. Note on Nimrod: - In season 1 of the 90’s X-Men, Nimrod follows Bishop back from the Days of Future past timeline and with the X-Men’s help, overwhelm its regenerative capabilities and “destroy it”. However, a piece of it wasn’t apparently destroyed, time traveled back to before Bastion and the original X-Men were born, and infected Bastion’s dad, so that Bastion would be born Mutant-Sentinel hybrid! 😊
Slight correction on Nimrod. It was a Nimrod from a 3rd timeline that was sent with time travelling mutant Fitzroy to kill a young Prof X Timelines 1: Tracker Bishop is sent back to stop Kelly’s assassination 2: A techno organic virus has decimated the population 3: Bishop helps the resistance to fight a Master Mold controlled world
the brutal honesty of Valerie's monologue about tragedy...this show. How do you write such fire, continually and with such consistency and not cause a devastating wildfire (or at least scorch the fuck out of your writers room.)
Your discussion about desensitization is really deep and this show did such a great job bringing that real challenge for humanity into light to drive those kinds of conversations. That is why I think xmen, like star trek, is a wonderful fictional setting to help the real world through this kind of enlightenment.
In the OG show, a future Mastermold sent a time-traveling mutant, along with Nimrod to 1955 in order to kill a young Xavier before he could grow to form the X-men and fight for mutant rights. Bishop and his sister caught wind of the plan and went back to try to stop them, stopping by present day to ask some X-men to go back with them to help. But the time shift had already occurred and there were no x-men, though a married, alternate version of Storm and Wolverine agreed to help. They found Xavier, took him to a little diner to explain their situation. A fight broke out because of the racist owner and Xavier fled. Xavier was blown up in a lab, but Bishop, Storm and Wolverine were able to try again. This time they beat Xavier to the lab. Once there, they battled Nimrod and he blew up. This lab is the same one that Bastion's father was seen cleaning in Jean's memory. That's where a chunk of Nimrod latched onto him. Bastion's mom was revealed to be the waitress from the diner. Still a solid episode to watch in the OG show: One Man's Worth (two parts).
The toy at 5:22 does not depict a sentinel. It is representing X-51, and android also named Machine Man. The reason it is shown in Bastion's childhood home is because, in the comics, he plays an important role in revealing the true identity of Bastion.
My theory on how they infected/changed so many people, how many “the vending machine is never out of diet” secret doors did they have around the world? I bet anyone who stumbled into one of them was nabbed and changed, they wouldn’t remember.
i believe the x-men term for what those people have become or at least what bastion is, is "Posthuman" they are something like the artificial evolution of humans. there was a big storylines about posthumanism in recent comic storylines
The 90s animated series Spider-Man had an in continuity crossover with the X-Men, so that was indeed him in this episode. And you’ll get further proof later on…
Magneto was right all along & did nothing wrong. Cameos galore, Jubilee's new fit, Sunspot actually using his powers, & Nightcrawler & Wolverine being awesome. Bastion is a MENACE! If i remember correctly most of the 90s Marvel cartoons are connected
i had to look it but the kids name is Glob Herman. his skin is highly combustable but he hismelf is fireproof. he's also fairly strong and fast and very durable being able to survive a direct hit with a bomb in the comics. here he's just meant to be a kid with an obvious mutation that he can't hide like other more powerful mutants.
The sentinel toy is definitely Machine Man (Aaron Stack). He's connected to Bastion and Cable in the comics. The 1998 Machine Man/Bastion Annual #1 features a battle between Machine Man and Bastion, with Cable also involved
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Nimrod is the ultimate sentinel and when it died it used a version of the techno organic virus to infect the sperm of the Janitor. Janitor has baby. Nimrod uses nanovirus to make sure it is a mutant with Technopathy. Child grows up and Nimrod has much control due to the child being able to technopath and communicate. Mastermold is the first Sentenel and both Nimrod has some of the history of Mastermolds journey inside as well as the first Mastermold waking up which Bastion could hear as a Technopath. Bastion knows much of the beats of the future because of Nimrod's historical records especially after it got the time travel system. Throughout the timeline things are done to ensure the conditions arise (cable techno virus by Mr sinister, time cube and bishop, nimrod giving advanced sentenel future tech to the present to make the human sentenls. This whole thing is a terminator type time battle between three factions. Mutants (cable forge bishop) Sentenels (nimrod Bastion Mastermold) and Apocolypse all 3 got the time tech that was first invented to stop days of future past way back in season 1.
The Techno organic virus is something specific to Cable, the why is spoiler territory. Nimrod sent himself back in time, that's the purple/ pink stuff infecting Bastions dad. There are also more spoilers in regards to these storylines but whenever you guys have the chance read the comics after this is all done lol.
Sebastian origin simplified. Master mode is basically skynet. Nimrod is T 1000 Terminator from the future. With the human sentinels being the equivalent to the cyborg Terminator from Terminator salvation and Sebastian representing John Connor in Terminator genisys.
These last 3 episodes of the season are the greatest 1.5 hours of superhero content in human history, as far as I’m concerned. Not animated. Not “marvel”. Superhero content. Ever. Yeah, including IW and Endgame. I said what I said.
Nimrod is what sentinels evolved to in an alternate future and it came back to correct the failures of destroying mutants. Mastermold encounters Nimrod and that evolves it and gets it thinking about maybe sentinels need to advance even more into an amalgamation of man and machine, it creates Bastion by infecting his father with a altered techno organic virus that contains sentinel code, Nimrod memories and code and the father’s human DNA and all that combined to fertilize an egg in Bastion’s mother and Bastion was created.
Nimrod was in the OG series in the first season episode 11 (Days of Future Past) and season 3 episodes 9 and 10 (One Man's Worth). And it's in One Man's Worth that part of Nimrod infected Bastion's father. However I think they retconned Cable's future... because I don't think Bastion was actually in Cable's future in the comics, definitely not in the OG series.
bastion's line about "overloading" humanity's bandwith of empathy is one of the most pointed pieces of writing in the show. especially relevant when one of the worst atrocities in history is not only currently ongoing but is continuously documented and broadcasted over the whole of media.. and if you live in the west, you can find people who are able to just. not care about it. it's too complex a situation or not your place to speak on it- whatever the excuse, when your skin's not in the game, you can turn a blind eye. maybe magneto was right. justice for the oppressed🍉
As a Jewish person living through the current times, this episode resonated too hard. Magento, a Jewish survivor of the biggest atrocity in living memory, saw his people got butchered and persecuted, only after the war to see his new people being persecuted and vowing to never again. And well, those people built themselves a new country to live in peace and safety. But other people had different ideas and they brutally attacked and slaughtered the mutants in their own country. And then, after a brief period of sympathy, the public once again turned against them, considering them a threat and starting the persecution again in the name of peace somehow. And like she said in the episode, she wasn't surprised. History repeats itself. 80 years ago Hitler said Jews are a threat to society and today you see people repeating that and calling for the destruction of the only Jewish country in the world. At least the mutants had super powers, what do we have? a space laser?
Most logical people aren't asking for israel to be destroyed, that's just far right nazi idiots, but most people just want the war to stop because yeah it was justified to fight back considering where hamas decided to attack, civilians rather than a military base, but in the months since its started Israel has become a bit over the top and erratic with its actions and its kinda sort of becoming a genocide, which yknow is probably the last thing Jew's should be doing considering they were saved from one not too long ago
I'm pretty sure the mutants of Genosha didn't use American money and influence to steadily slaughter and displace Genosha's native population. Israel has never faced an attack remotely on the scale of Genosha, but Israel sure is doing the same to Palestine.
This is straight up giving Superman and Lois vibes when Tal Roh changed the entire town into kryptonians. They ALSO didn't know exactly what was being done without their consent. And they just kept coming
Neanderthals came first, but modern humans and neanderthals coexisted for awhile. In fact, we interbred, too, and most people have some neanderthal genes in their DNA. But eventually, they went extinct, and we didn't. We don't really know why they went extinct; hypotheses range from violence to diseases that we were more resistant to, or even just "we interbred so much that the offspring could no longer reproduce with neanderthals, but could still luckily reproduce with modern humans". And a bunch more other guesses; we don't really have enough evidence to know with any certainty. But since they came first, but they died while we survived, that's all that's meant by "replacing" them -- everywhere they were is just us now.
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You know Bastion is a new level of evil when even Dr. Doom says "That's too much." Also, that Spiderman cameo was insane, and so was Wolverine and Nightcrawler's team up.
Well Doom doesn't particularly hate mutants or humans, he just wants to take over and rule, gain more power
Well Dr. Doom isn't that bad.
What was insane about the cameo? He didnt do anything?
Exactly!!!! My man Doctor Doom might be a villain, but he has standards!! 🙏🏽💪
@@karlluigi1987 Depends on the era and who is writing him.Cause I'd say sacrificing your one true love for more power is pretty bad.
"Magneto was Right!" It's sad and scary how this one line shook me ... like a gut punch.
Especially from Valerie Cooper of all people
when a human says "magneto was right" you know things are bad.
To anyone claiming that Magneto's beef should be with Bastion and Sinister rather than all of humanity, the UN literally bankrolled them to make super sentinels. And then the whole thing about the nations of the world turning against Genosha instead of supporting the victims of this tragedy.
As any generalisation, it doesn't work like that. You can't persecute all mutans, because of Magneto's actions or any villain who is a mutant .
You can't persecute all humans for choices of their governments. It goes both ways.
You can't say it goes both ways when the "choices" mutants are persecuted for is fighting back because they were already being persecuted for what they were born as.
It is indeed not every single person, but consider that Bastion's massive army is made up of regular people who, even if they did not know they would be made into monsters, willingly signed up for a mutant hate group. That is not even getting into groups like the FOH. Fear and hatred of Magneto's kind is not just a government policy and it is understandable that he would see most of human-kind as his enemy.
@@somestuff7876Thats literrally how was work. And really the whole world has a problem with mutans, as showed in this episode. Roberto and Jubilee being detained by a supremacist part of a irregular militia and everyone thinking that he is the good guy there. Humans do have a war of extermination on mutants.
@@joelsasmad do you guys seriously don't feel any bit of irony in your logic?
Ok, those kids, that now have sentinels for parents - do they deserve death in a plane crash for their parent's choice (more like "choice")? I'm pretty sure we would both say no.
So what percentage of exceptions like this or supports groups (hypocritical like Roberto's parents and a real ones) should be around the world to not doom all?
What the critical number on "bad" mutans that would justify fighting back against more powerful future usurpers like Magneto that could doom whole planet in a blink of an eye...
Justifications like that ones are dangerous.
And they do go both ways.
Regarding Magneto. Is it understandable? Yes. Is that true? No.
We can't use one crime to justify the next one. We can say that we saw it coming, Hell, maybe numbers of dead people on "both sides" now somewhat even. Doesn't make it right or even fair.
@@somestuff7876 No one "deserves" any of this, and I'm not saying Magneto isn't extreme, but until both sides can find a way towards peace mutants are justified to fight back. As terrible as what happened to those kids was, if Magneto did nothing the X-Men would have been overwhelmed and the future Cable told them about would have come to pass where all mutants are enslaved. Also it is just as much if not moreso on Bastion for turning them into Sentinels.
X-Men fans have never been spoiled this much outside of comics in history! Whether it’s the deadly tag team of Nightcrawler and Wolverine, the Summers Family fighting a horde of Prime Sentinels, Bastion’s on screen debut as one of the the biggest and most formidable villains in Marvel history, Magneto proving again why he’s one of the most OP characters in comics history, and Charles Xavier ending the episode with “To me my X-men”.
*AND THIS IS JUST PART ONE!!!!!*
One of the best animated/story adapted in a while!
I think Calvin's right about who became Prime Sentinels...I think it's a mix of volunteers and people taken and changed thst didn't choose it.
yeah and even if they did volunteer it was stated they remember nothing when they wake up and activate when close to a mutant.
@@jovanleonardi1574they also weren’t aware of the extent of Bastion was doing to them and that they would lose free will when activated.
Also considering it’s a “technorganic virus” it’s possible that it spreads
While kidnapping people is in character for these villains, that is never stated and I genuinely think it is way more horrifying and meaningful when you consider that this massive army of Sentinels hidden just under the surface all across the country are people hiding anti mutant sentiment. Even if they didn't know what would be done to them they still signed up for essentially a massive hate group.
Operation Zero Tolerance had its people in media and other of areas of influence.
In a season where Magneto says fire lines every episode its pretty cool that "Enough" speaks the loudest of them all. Helps when that line is delivered in a frozen tundra, in essential booty shorts while drastically altering the planet's magnetic pull.
And you only get a quarter of his face saying it. No eyes, half a mouth, that slight whisper was so...... heavy and amazingly delivered.
That is indeed Spiderman from the 1994 animated series, that show and X-men were in the same continuity
Nimrod was in the original animated series. Hes the reason we first meet Bishop in that show. He comes back to the past to stop Nimrod from assassinating Senator Kelley.
Not from killing younger professor x
Not quite: Mystique was the one that was going to assassinate Kelly. Nimrod followed Bishop back in time to stop him. Later, there was another episode where Nimrod tries to go back in time to try to kill Xavier.
After all these years Wolverine finally gets to use his claws on flesh & blood
Nightcrawler was the MVP in this episode because his fight scenes were absolute perfection! It was animated wonderfully and it will go down as one of the biggest highlights of the season. Now also adding the SPIDER-MAN cameo and I'm fairly confident in saying that this was an incredible episode full of everything I ever wanted out of an X-Men animated series episode. Seeing 90's Spider-Man again was just so special. My childhood hero came back to me as cool as ever. Incredible episode with an equally incredible Magneto moment at the very end, 10/10!
You know you're evil when even Dr Doom is going "Alright bro, ya doing too much". Seriously though glad y'all are finally getting to enjoy this series. Can promise without spoilers the last two episodes are also straight bangers.
16:46 I met Ross Marquand (voice of Xavier) three weeks ago at a convention in England and when I got his autograph he wrote on it "To me, my X-Men!"
Bastion’s mother was made to look like a woman who was in the original series (I believe it was the Ep with Nimrod, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) but the fact they even thought to do a thing like that; blows me mind. This show is incredible…
His father too, they were both in the cafe that tried to throw out the xmen because Wolverine & Storm were a couple
"All volunteers" it's the official statement. But being Bastion the one to said it we know its gonna be a half truth at best.
Yeah, and Sinister is over seeing the conversion process. Their word is rightfully suspect. You'd certainly want prime sentinels sleeper agents close to high valued targets by hook or by crook.
The speech from Cooper really sold me. It reminded me of a similar speech in V for Vendetta, that moment the detective realizes that every event up to that point is connected and that it could only lead to a single outcome - revolution. What's sad is she's right. Tragedies like the one in Genosha play out repeatedly no matter what the mutants do to recover and put walls up to protect themselves. It's their destiny to be victims. Even Deadpool can see it.
In the comics, when Magneto EMPs the whole world (the "Fatal Attractions" crossover), he interrupted The Thing in the bath tub. Here, they made it Spidey.
the "magneto was right" speech and "enough" was so chilling and epic in a way i haven't experienced with anything else in quite a while. spiderman appeared but I was like "MAGNETO TURNED OFF THE EARTH OMFG" 😂
I don’t think anyone was expecting the cameos we got this episode
After watching this episode my boss told me it was the best show animated or otherwise that he’s seen in years. I then got to drop the news that this was only part 1 of a 3 part finale. He was so stoked! Lol
Straight up, the best iteration I have seen of the X-men in pop culture ever.
Neanderthals were around way before us. Hundreds of thousands of years in some scientific dating. Even tho Neanderthals had larger space for brains, our ancestors replaced them as they evolved with different survival skills that had evolved. Ultimately our ancestors interbred with them and our genes were the dominant leading to the extinction of Neanderthals eventually. But several humans today (who’s ancestors came from both Europe and Asia) still carry trace elements of Neanderthal DNA that is responsible for things like: red hair, blue eyes, different disease immunity, etc. lots of anthropological studies and articles on the subject if you’re interested.
Re: Trish.
Bastion mentioned reaching out to people expressing certain viewpoints in chatrooms and such. She may have been investigating anti-mutant rhetoric, got an "invite", but because of the whole "they forget they were ever here" thing, she doesn't remember the procedure and thought she had hit a dead-end. Or maybe she was kidnapped and infected since she has access to the X-Men, again, with no memory of that happening.
As for Bastion's origins, watch the OG series 2-parter "One Man's Worth", it'll all make sense then.
Not ALL of the sentinels are volunteers. Trask didn't know he was one. Some of them were forced against their will.
Also Mystique is Kurts biological mother, but Rogue's adoptive mother.
I think it also adds that Bastion said they volunteered as he was talking to Valerie. And is at least semi trying to keep her on his side as much as possible.
Trask didn't know because his memory was erased. Once he activates, he gets it back.
@@MothManMyth Trask was kidnapped by Sinister earlier in the season, he did not participate willingly.
The way it was explained they were more mundane racists who did volunteer for something along the lines of a hate group. They didn't know they were going to be made into monsters.
They didn't know they would be made sentinels. They likely did know they were joining a hate group.
The BAMF sound design is so satisfying.
I got six reasons why I love this episode.
No, NINE!
@@ThePandaaa Nein: nine.
@@IceMetalPunk Nein: No
Showing Nightcrawler's teleport was awesome. What it feels like for the other person. It is instant but you still experience it.
I grew up with X-Men: Evolution, and one of the most memorable episodes that still sticks in my mind is the one where Forge creates a device to slow down Nightcrawler's teleportation, so they can study the dimension he travels through. And we get shots of him slowly floating through a hell dimension, until a creature escapes because the portal stayed open too long, and all hell literally breaks loose.
Man, I miss Evolution.
Yes, we actually lost a war to emus - simply outlasted us, as 2500 rounds for 200 deaths didn't go down well with the bean counters. Subsequent requests to the army were greeted with a resounding hell no, and putting bounties out had no luck either. So the giant scary birds still roam pretty much where they want to - they never forgot they were dinosaurs back in the day...
Wolverine and Nightcrawler slicing their way through them was awesome.
Your guys' discussion/analysis are what make Blind Wave S tier reaction channel👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Magneto was on his Dr Manhattan energy when he got freed. Speedo and all
OG timeline > Regular Sentenls because Senator Kelley was assasinated, led to bad future> Timetravel to change the assasination led to a new timeline where MM is created and sentenls are more advanced which led to Nimrod who was > sent back in time to Kill Professor X before he was stronger which led to a new future which led to bastion when Nimrod infected the janitor.
At the same time this is going on Apocalypse is using time travel , so is Cable and Both of them and Nimrod are using Mr Sinister to create the conditions which led to this whole thing. Cable only exists because the war started and the wars changed because of Cable and Bishop and it is making changes constantly.
A dynamic time war.
Nimrod is supposed to the ultimate sentinel. He’s the final, most badass form of sentinel from the future, where Bishop comes from. According to this show, Nimrod, or a version of it, traveled back to the past, infected some dude’s wiener with science robot stuff, and that dude’s now-sentinel wiener made a baby that grew up to be Bastion
@5:20 That's not a sentinel toy, That's a Machine man(Aaron Stack) action figure
The problem Bastion and the F.o.H. have is that they see mutants as something separate from humanity that is trying to wipe them out. They can't see that mutants aren't "other," mutants are their children. My Hero Academia is the other side of that coin. Humanity (seemingly) embraced the special gifts their children were being born with (with some specific exceptions). They didn't see it as a new species trying to replace them.
Yeah, if anything they should have worked on putting up protective lines ahead of time around last remaining non-powered humans. Because those unlucky people would be at huge disadvantage in their day-to-day lives. It would be more akin to minority of people, that are living with disabilities.
Great comparison, I’ve always saw MHA as the future of the XMen universe if the powers/tech weren’t as broken.
yeah, and the X gene it's actually DNA from a dead Celestial, that leaked into the sea and eventually mixed with the first life forms DNA, the thing is, it's so diluated and take so long for inteligent life evolve, that the x gene got dormant for a long time, but eventually begins to activate and becomes dominant... that's why more and more mutants are born over time, and that's why the Sentinel program eventually goes way wire and rogue, turning against it's human handlers, begining to set its own directives, leading to humans also being targeted due genetics.
That's something that's always bothered me about any sci-fi "mutant/next step in evolution/etc." stories (like The Tomorrow People, for instance). They always refer to the mutants as if they were a separate species; but that's not how species work. To be honest, species don't even exist, and are just our human attempts to categorize things better so we can more easily understand them. We have many different definitions of species to try and account for every exception that we find when we use a prior definition. But *none* of those definitions would make mutants a different species... well, mostly. (Sorry to Glob Herman and possibly Kurt...)
Genetically, their genes are compatible with non-mutant humans', and they often interbreed. Their children can also reproduce. That alone satisfies the typical definition of being the same species. They also have almost all the same DNA, within allele tolerance, except for the single X-Gene mutation. From a morphological standpoint, most mutants also have almost all the same phenotypes as other humans (again... sorry Glob and Kurt).
So basically... mutants can be considered either a human subspecies (which, the term we use for that for humans is usually "race") or simply a phenotypical difference. So saying they are a "new species" is like saying white people are a "new species" from Black people since we evolved later; or, alternatively, it's like saying redheads are a "new species".
So the allegory for racism is even more appropriate than you might think, since mutants are, in fact, just another race of the same human species as everyone else.
@@IceMetalPunk i hate to disagree cuz you do have some very good points, but mutants obviously need to have vastly different sections of DNA that is different from each other and especially from humans. Mutant powers are genetic and they are inheritable. sometimes the children get the powers of one parent like all of the summer kids inheriting Jeans telepathy and telekinesis,
there is also traits that run in bloodlines that make members of some mutant family's immune to the powers of those within that family like the summers and the frosts. i can't think of an example at the moment but sometimes the powers of two mutants mix so the child gets a bit of both parents. and yes sometimes the child has wholly unique powers.
but more than we know that humans reproduced with other human species specially Neanderthals and i believe potentially one other type of exitnict human species. we still carry their dna. But for an extant group of closely related species we have Wolves, Coyotes, and Dogs. all 3 are different species, all three can interbreed and their offspring are fertile and can have their own offsprings. so that isn't so different. (oh i forgot jackels also belong to the Canis genus and they too can interbreed with their fellow canis members.)
another example from the Genus Pan are chimpanzees and bonobos. both of these guys are different species and they can interbreed. i'm sure if we look we can find others if we look. but it's important to note that while all these example are different species that belong to the same genus not all members of a genus can produce fertile offspring. in the panthera genus the various big cats can interbreed but the males are generally infertile. then we get to the equines whose hybrids are always sterile. so in the end genetics are just complicated and the ability to interbreed isn't a clear cut distinction between what makes two creatures part of the same species or different species.
The X gene is just the most well known differnce between humans and mutants but for any mutant powers there has to be a ton of various genes needed to regulate and control those powers. every power they have that they have must be activated in some way. that would require special pathways to regulate. most mutant powers can be deactivated regulatory pathways need to exist to be able to do that. mutants sometimes have secondary mutations or multiple primary abilities. you would need special pathway to choose which power you are going to use. all of that has be inscribed in their dna. some mutants like angel need to develop special organs and muscles all of that needs to be in their genetic code. so there is way more than just a single gene difference between humans and mutants. unless you think we have the cellular pathway and hormones needed to throw a telekinetic punch, turning your skin into diamonds, convert sound into light, growing claws out hands, controlling a pair of wings, and teleporting already in our dna. i highly doubt it. each mutant maybe be their own subspecies, but they clearly have many many genes that we dont have.
from a quick google search eye color alone is controlled by 16 different genes. if it takes 16 genes just to pick our eye color how many total genes do you think it takes to control the entirety of the ability of our eyes to function? now imagine how many genes would be needed to control a single mutant ability and many mutants have either multiple abilites or part of their abilities enchance them beyond human standard. all of that would be tied to our dna and controlled and regulated by different genes.
I think the reporter was never all in with mutants. She is a skeptic and Bastion likely sold the volunteering as a benign thing for some and more militant for others. Wide net
28:05 - While holding the council in the sky, Magneto said, “Do not make me let you down!” Both meaning that he was trying to be better AND that they would die if he dropped them from that height! 😊
The reporter was genuine and whenever she was taken, like one of you suggested, it wasn't likely by her choice or she was tricked into what she was walking into. She does have a sympathetic spot for mutants and never shows any evidence that she'd be lying really. Remember, the person's mind is wiped of it ever happening, so they don't know they are a human sentinel.
The only thing that it would mean then is she was lying about being friendly with mutants, but what does that get her? A lot of humans are afraid/hate mutants. I'm sure there's viewership for people who favor them, but she's a reporter, not a studio head that makes those decisions.
Based on what is shown, the reporter is genuine, and when the switch is flipped by Hank discovering where all the human sentinels are, she gets forcefully activated as well and fights for bastion against her likely will.
Why people pull weird conclusions not based on evidence but because you have a crappy judgemental assumption is well beyond me.
Just when I thought I couldn’t love Eric more, he references Redline during the Nightcrawler teleportation scene.
The reporter, Trish, likely followed a lead or tried to get an inside scoop by either going undercover or by volunteering just to see what Bastion was proposing, not knowing that she would loose her free will in the process.
27:23 - Mystique’s kids:
- Rogue was taken in by Mystique when her human parents threw her out after they found out she was a mutant. She kissed her first boyfriend (Cody) and put him in a coma. Mystique then raised her to be part of the brotherhood. Rogue mostly knew Mystique as her “mamma,” Raven Darkholme, as Mystique rarely her true blue-skinned self at the time, keeping a humanoid form.
- Nightcrawler - Mystique was in disguise and married to a rich count (secretly the half-demon mutant Azazel, but she didn’t know that at the time), when she gave birth to their blue furred son, Nightcrawler. Being exposed as a mutant and ruining her peaceful life, she threw Kurt off a cliff and ran for her life, more easily disguised without having to carry a baby around. Found and raised in a gypsy circus, Kurt learned acrobatics until he was chased from there. Eventually, he found acceptance in a small monestary until Logan and Rogue met him there and fought against the racism of one monk there who saw him as a demon. Later, Rogue and Nightcrawler went on a mission and found out they were adopted siblings (Mystique kinda adopted Rogue) and found out who their brother is.
- Grayden Creed is their Human son who founded the Friends of Humanity hate group, and who hates his mutant parents, Mystique and Victor Creed, aka Sabertooth.
Note on Nimrod:
- In season 1 of the 90’s X-Men, Nimrod follows Bishop back from the Days of Future past timeline and with the X-Men’s help, overwhelm its regenerative capabilities and “destroy it”. However, a piece of it wasn’t apparently destroyed, time traveled back to before Bastion and the original X-Men were born, and infected Bastion’s dad, so that Bastion would be born Mutant-Sentinel hybrid! 😊
Slight correction on Nimrod. It was a Nimrod from a 3rd timeline that was sent with time travelling mutant Fitzroy to kill a young Prof X
Timelines
1: Tracker Bishop is sent back to stop Kelly’s assassination
2: A techno organic virus has decimated the population
3: Bishop helps the resistance to fight a Master Mold controlled world
Damn, this show is f*cking dope!
“To me, my X-Men!” gave me chills!
the brutal honesty of Valerie's monologue about tragedy...this show. How do you write such fire, continually and with such consistency and not cause a devastating wildfire (or at least scorch the fuck out of your writers room.)
Your discussion about desensitization is really deep and this show did such a great job bringing that real challenge for humanity into light to drive those kinds of conversations. That is why I think xmen, like star trek, is a wonderful fictional setting to help the real world through this kind of enlightenment.
Fkn brilliant! X97 is amazing! Great reaction Wave Crew!
i said it before i'll say it again. Magneto didn't declare war, war was declared at Genosha.
In the OG show, a future Mastermold sent a time-traveling mutant, along with Nimrod to 1955 in order to kill a young Xavier before he could grow to form the X-men and fight for mutant rights. Bishop and his sister caught wind of the plan and went back to try to stop them, stopping by present day to ask some X-men to go back with them to help. But the time shift had already occurred and there were no x-men, though a married, alternate version of Storm and Wolverine agreed to help. They found Xavier, took him to a little diner to explain their situation. A fight broke out because of the racist owner and Xavier fled. Xavier was blown up in a lab, but Bishop, Storm and Wolverine were able to try again. This time they beat Xavier to the lab. Once there, they battled Nimrod and he blew up. This lab is the same one that Bastion's father was seen cleaning in Jean's memory. That's where a chunk of Nimrod latched onto him. Bastion's mom was revealed to be the waitress from the diner. Still a solid episode to watch in the OG show: One Man's Worth (two parts).
15:38 My man Spider-Man!! 🙏🏽💪
I cant wait till episode 10 for Aarons reaction!
That nightcrawler and Wolverine scene might be my favorite marvel scene ever
I was beyond amazed when Spider-Man from the ‘94 animated series made a cameo appearance.
This was my favorite episode of the season. Can’t wait to see you guys react to the last two.
The toy at 5:22 does not depict a sentinel. It is representing X-51, and android also named Machine Man. The reason it is shown in Bastion's childhood home is because, in the comics, he plays an important role in revealing the true identity of Bastion.
Another amazing video
Next episode is a SMASH hit
My theory on how they infected/changed so many people, how many “the vending machine is never out of diet” secret doors did they have around the world? I bet anyone who stumbled into one of them was nabbed and changed, they wouldn’t remember.
i believe the x-men term for what those people have become or at least what bastion is, is "Posthuman" they are something like the artificial evolution of humans. there was a big storylines about posthumanism in recent comic storylines
10:53 My man Wolverine!!!! 🙏🏽💪
: Coolest action seen in the entire show….
: Talks over it about the logistics of volunteering
Magneto was always right.
6:48 My man Doctor Doom!!!!!! 🙏🏽💪
I lost my shit when I saw Spider-Man. I loved Spider-Man: The Animated Series as a kid.
Hey crew, just a friendly PSA, please make sure to watch the mid credit scene at the end of episode 3 of Tolerance is extinction!! 🤘😉
The 90s animated series Spider-Man had an in continuity crossover with the X-Men, so that was indeed him in this episode. And you’ll get further proof later on…
15:42 Silver Samurai!!!! 🙏🏽💪
It is indeed too good of a show
Come on, no reaction of experiencing teleporting with Nightcrawler?!? That was badass!
?? It was in the reaction tho??
Wait until the finale!!!
Magneto was right all along & did nothing wrong. Cameos galore, Jubilee's new fit, Sunspot actually using his powers, & Nightcrawler & Wolverine being awesome. Bastion is a MENACE! If i remember correctly most of the 90s Marvel cartoons are connected
i had to look it but the kids name is Glob Herman. his skin is highly combustable but he hismelf is fireproof. he's also fairly strong and fast and very durable being able to survive a direct hit with a bomb in the comics. here he's just meant to be a kid with an obvious mutation that he can't hide like other more powerful mutants.
I wish Iron Man had a cameo in the EMP scene. Just walking, then freezing in place.
I always figured Tony had EMP shielding in every suit
The sentinel toy is definitely Machine Man (Aaron Stack). He's connected to Bastion and Cable in the comics. The 1998 Machine Man/Bastion Annual #1 features a battle between Machine Man and Bastion, with Cable also involved
"All Volunteers"
There are many reasons to volunteer:
Protection from Mutants
Protection from Other Threats
Protect loved ones
Live Longer
Avoid disease or injury
Avoid terminal condition
Paid for Scientific Testing
Tiny text under Cell Phone plan
You can fly
Every plane in the air crashed, all life support systems shut down, etc ...at that moment Magneto shut down EVERYTHING, that's the war
Memories may fade but the feeling
Nimrod is the ultimate sentinel and when it died it used a version of the techno organic virus to infect the sperm of the Janitor.
Janitor has baby.
Nimrod uses nanovirus to make sure it is a mutant with Technopathy.
Child grows up and Nimrod has much control due to the child being able to technopath and communicate.
Mastermold is the first Sentenel and both Nimrod has some of the history of Mastermolds journey inside as well as the first Mastermold waking up which Bastion could hear as a Technopath.
Bastion knows much of the beats of the future because of Nimrod's historical records especially after it got the time travel system. Throughout the timeline things are done to ensure the conditions arise (cable techno virus by Mr sinister, time cube and bishop, nimrod giving advanced sentenel future tech to the present to make the human sentenls.
This whole thing is a terminator type time battle between three factions. Mutants (cable forge bishop) Sentenels (nimrod Bastion Mastermold) and Apocolypse all 3 got the time tech that was first invented to stop days of future past way back in season 1.
My theory about why the time cube keeps pulling cable back is also because it won't allow any change which prevents it's own invention.
Nightcrawler and Gambit hands down the coolest characters
Magneto's lines are all too fire. They had to silence him for almost three whole episodes just to give other characters time to shine.
The Techno organic virus is something specific to Cable, the why is spoiler territory. Nimrod sent himself back in time, that's the purple/ pink stuff infecting Bastions dad. There are also more spoilers in regards to these storylines but whenever you guys have the chance read the comics after this is all done lol.
I think the reporter might have changed her mind on mutants after meeting Beast, but it was too late by then.
Sebastian origin simplified. Master mode is basically skynet. Nimrod is T 1000 Terminator from the future. With the human sentinels being the equivalent to the cyborg Terminator from Terminator salvation and Sebastian representing John Connor in Terminator genisys.
Fun Fact more recently Mystique is now Nightcrawlers father and Destiny is the mother
These last 3 episodes of the season are the greatest 1.5 hours of superhero content in human history, as far as I’m concerned. Not animated. Not “marvel”. Superhero content. Ever. Yeah, including IW and Endgame. I said what I said.
15:38 Spider-Man cameo.
Nimrod is what sentinels evolved to in an alternate future and it came back to correct the failures of destroying mutants. Mastermold encounters Nimrod and that evolves it and gets it thinking about maybe sentinels need to advance even more into an amalgamation of man and machine, it creates Bastion by infecting his father with a altered techno organic virus that contains sentinel code, Nimrod memories and code and the father’s human DNA and all that combined to fertilize an egg in Bastion’s mother and Bastion was created.
You didn't notice the Stark Expo merch next to the Sentinel toy?
Nimrod was in the OG series in the first season episode 11 (Days of Future Past) and season 3 episodes 9 and 10 (One Man's Worth).
And it's in One Man's Worth that part of Nimrod infected Bastion's father.
However I think they retconned Cable's future... because I don't think Bastion was actually in Cable's future in the comics, definitely not in the OG series.
bastion's line about "overloading" humanity's bandwith of empathy is one of the most pointed pieces of writing in the show.
especially relevant when one of the worst atrocities in history is not only currently ongoing but is continuously documented and broadcasted over the whole of media.. and if you live in the west, you can find people who are able to just. not care about it. it's too complex a situation or not your place to speak on it- whatever the excuse, when your skin's not in the game, you can turn a blind eye.
maybe magneto was right. justice for the oppressed🍉
5:20 That's not a Sentinel toy that's a Machine Man (X-51) toy.
As a Jewish person living through the current times, this episode resonated too hard. Magento, a Jewish survivor of the biggest atrocity in living memory, saw his people got butchered and persecuted, only after the war to see his new people being persecuted and vowing to never again. And well, those people built themselves a new country to live in peace and safety. But other people had different ideas and they brutally attacked and slaughtered the mutants in their own country. And then, after a brief period of sympathy, the public once again turned against them, considering them a threat and starting the persecution again in the name of peace somehow. And like she said in the episode, she wasn't surprised. History repeats itself. 80 years ago Hitler said Jews are a threat to society and today you see people repeating that and calling for the destruction of the only Jewish country in the world. At least the mutants had super powers, what do we have? a space laser?
Most logical people aren't asking for israel to be destroyed, that's just far right nazi idiots, but most people just want the war to stop because yeah it was justified to fight back considering where hamas decided to attack, civilians rather than a military base, but in the months since its started Israel has become a bit over the top and erratic with its actions and its kinda sort of becoming a genocide, which yknow is probably the last thing Jew's should be doing considering they were saved from one not too long ago
Luckily genosha isn't shown to be a preoccupied country of another nation previously yeah
I'm pretty sure the mutants of Genosha didn't use American money and influence to steadily slaughter and displace Genosha's native population. Israel has never faced an attack remotely on the scale of Genosha, but Israel sure is doing the same to Palestine.
@@warrust Like USA?
Couldn't help myself.
@@warrust Yeah, it's sad Genosha doesn't have 3000 years of history of mutants living there. Maybe then the massacre wouldn't have happened.
This is straight up giving Superman and Lois vibes when Tal Roh changed the entire town into kryptonians. They ALSO didn't know exactly what was being done without their consent. And they just kept coming
No one is dead till you see the body 😉
they where all volunteers they just didn't know exactly what was gonna happen just that they would be relevant again in a worls of mutants
Rogue didnt show up to Gambit's funeral
22:56 Wrong bastion is like Ultron He wants machines to rule and wipe out everyone else
Hopefully marvel continues to revive other 90s shows after x men 97. Especially Spider-Man 🙏🏻😭
As cool as that would be I am more hoping for a Spectacular Spider-Man continuation. I would love for that show to continue.
@Jjop017 sadly due to legal stuff they cant revive it
@@kadegetslaid634actually they can now!
@@kadegetslaid634 they can, marvel owns spider man tv rights, the only show that has rights problems is spectacular spider man
@user-fg8vc4ji3p I know, sorry I was replying to Jjop017 but the tagging is messed up 😭🙏
nimrod what is in the original series a few times
Neanderthals came first, but modern humans and neanderthals coexisted for awhile. In fact, we interbred, too, and most people have some neanderthal genes in their DNA. But eventually, they went extinct, and we didn't. We don't really know why they went extinct; hypotheses range from violence to diseases that we were more resistant to, or even just "we interbred so much that the offspring could no longer reproduce with neanderthals, but could still luckily reproduce with modern humans". And a bunch more other guesses; we don't really have enough evidence to know with any certainty. But since they came first, but they died while we survived, that's all that's meant by "replacing" them -- everywhere they were is just us now.
Man the writing of this was superb. As was the direction. Too bad they fired the dude. Skeptical any second season will be this good
Spider Man 98 coming up next