In fact all ballistic, film, and medical evidence demonstrate the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle. Dealey Plaza is an echo chamber.
It's not a question about if William Newman here was right or not, his perspective was that the shots came from behind him. He was right in that sense, but behind him to his left was where they actually came from. With a big crowd cheering, motorcycle engines and echos in thr plaza, it was very difficult to determine with any accuracy where they came from but Newman was right in the sense that they originated somewhere behind him.
@@ronniebishop2496 witness memory is fallable, it is not the best evidence. Conspiracy theorists love witness testimony because often times it conflicts with the physical evidence. But the physical evidence proves that a lot of the witnesses were just plain mistaken. They made an honest assessment of what they thought, but they were just wrong. It happens.
@@ronniebishop2496 he also did not perform an autopsy and was relying on his....memory! Why don't you ever quote the doctors that did the autopsy which conclusively proved all the shots came from the rear?
@@franclin0 No they didn’t prove exclusively anything, good god what in the hell is wrong with you. The doctor that performed the autopsy Dr Humes mysteriously said he accidentally BURNRD HIS NOTES. . You need to stop commenting because you don’t want to know the truth or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@franclin0 I would ask him how somebody approached dozens of people and talked them into bending over backwards making themselves all accessories to murder and treason, but I've never encountered one single conspiracy theorist yet who didn't find an excuse to dodge that question, so...
These people were THERE on November 22, 1963 so everyone can say it was Oswald and he acted alone and all that, but I believe live witnesses. In addition, films show that many people, including a police officer, immediately headed up the knoll.
The search centered on the depository, the place where people actually saw the assassin but just ignore reality and replace it with your childish fantasy nonsense.
@@Michael_Chandler_Keaton The one that wants to know how many rifles and shooters were seen on the knoll by all those "witnesses" that immediately headed there?
a) Officer Haygood ran up the knoll to secure the area and found nothing and nobody, as he firmly testified. People saw him, assumed he must be chasing somebody, and this sparked a rush on onlookers following him, who were then filmed milling aimlessly around behind the fence with nothing to see. b) Witnesses a few feet directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. c) Connally's said the shots all came from behind. d) All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. e) Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. f) Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them. g) It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions with different guns.
after all is time it is still gut wrenching compounded a million times over by the likely fact that our own government was involved if not directly behind this cowardly act
"Zero chance..." a) Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate 3 shots over 8-9 seconds, with several seconds between each shot, child's play. b) Oswald scored 18 out of 20 in rapid fire at targets 200 yards away as per his Marines scorebook. c) Kennedy was a slow-moving target a maximum of 88 yards away. d) All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. e) Witnesses a few feet directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. f) Oswald still completely screwed up the first shot, semi-botched the second, and only got it right with the third.
@@aaronz7056 Yeah and Jack Ruby was so distraught he had to shoot Oswald because you know.....feelings🤣. Lastly a freaking marine target range is nothing compared with hitting a pie plate size target at 100 yards moving over open sights on a POS milsurp carano and yeah I'm sure all the bullet forensics match the narrative just like I'm sure the back of Kennedy's head had a massive exit wound but Oswald was firing from behind.
@@AW-zy1kw What the hell did I literally just say above? And I said 88 yards, not 100. Any idiot just watching Zapruder's film alone will see NOTHING happens at the back of Kennedy's head. In fact: a) the autopsy photos demonstrate the shots came from behind b) Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos demonstrating the shots came from behind. c) Connally's said the shots came from behind. d) I just said witnesses under the window said the shots came from overhead. e) I just said all bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. f) Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. g) Zapruder's secretary was yards away from the fence and saw nobody there. h) It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would successfully frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions, with different guns.
@@aaronz7056 And Jack Ruby? You must be one of those types that believes everything the guvmint tells you. And I don't give a crap about 88 yards vs 100. Absolutely meaningless. Carcano's are pieces of crap and that is a highly unlikely shot.
@@aaronz7056 nobody will ever be able to explain how his head snapped backwards while being "shot from the back"...also there was a documentary here on youtube which I can not find now (probably deleted) where a doctor who if I remember correctly first examined JFK or at least was up close in person to the body said that a bullet entered his skull from the front. The best doc right now on youtube is this: /watch?v=e8i-R3saBBs
Yup, the grassy knoll. Have seen pictures of that with a person with what looks like, albeit very raw, no clear definition, of a man pointing a long gun.
If you refer to "Badgeman" he is too big to be human and all credible evidence demonstrates the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle.
@@ronniebishop2496 So somebody desperate to frame this all on Oswald from the TSBD window did so by firing away from three different directions with different guns, yeah, that's brilliant.
I'll attempt to save the rational, logical people who are reading this before seeing the video, some time. This is William Newman, the man seen laying on his 5 year old son after the shooting. He says the shot came from behind them "up on the mall". Not the picket fence that this video and Oliver Stone intentionally try to make you believe. In the film, jfk, Stone has the Newman character say shots came from the fence up on the mall, but that is not what Newman actually said, nor was he interviewed in Dealey Plaza like the film portrays. Never is the fence mentioned. The depository was right next to the "mall" (pergola) Newman was referring to so it could've easily seemed to him that that's where they were coming from. They were standing right in front of the pergola (if you're facing it) down at the street.
Yes. He says behind the mall which is the pergola. I don't dispute that. "DIrectly behind where we were standing. The president was looking in that direction... they all went back to the railroad cars, in that direction." To me that is a side shot as he says, "the side of his temple." Paul Landis said the same thing to the Warren Commission.
@@fr.victorperez7714he's literally standing next door to the tsbd. The whole place was an echo chamber. I'm not doubting his sincerity, but he was just plain mistaken. There was no evidence of a side shooter and there was no side entrance or exit wounds. Didn't happen.
I was just in Dallas. the depository seems far from where he was shot. He was toward the end of the pergola. The depository is only behind him if he is facing the underpass. But he was facing east watching the President approach him. Anyway the way it concludes makes it look like they both believe it was behind the pergola or even the grassy knoll. But that is a good point that it could not be a total side shot from the pergola. something for me to think about.
@@fr.victorperez7714 just consider this point. He's talking here about the shot that killed the president. That's obviously the most traumatic one for them. He of course says "shots", but it's clear the one they're focused on the most is the one that hit the head literally right in front of them. If you look at that still frame from the Nix film, it's clear that at that moment, the area right behind him is the pergola, not the area where conspiracy theorists insist the fatal shot came from, not the picket fence. There's absolutely no evidence a shot came from the pergola so clearly we're dealing with a case of mistaken direction, and rightly so. Again, plenty of echoes, reverberations and other loud noises lije crowd noise and motorcycle engines...associated with a huge event like that.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind. Kennedy's exit wound plainly seen exploding at the temple is consistent only with a shot from behind. Connally's said the shots all came from behind. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos. Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. Zapruder's secretary was only yards away from the fence and saw nobody there.
@@buckleymordecai9605 "Respectfully disagree - somehow, intuitively, I suspect "respectfully' is lost on you," you say. What the hell does that even refer to? I listed hard and demonstrable evidence.
Why did you show the opposite side of the Knoll from what Newman was talking about? In the 1986 TV Trial Newman cleanly marks the other side, which is shown at 3:10 here and an overview shot would show that it's understandable since the Depository is somewhat in line with the garden area he's talking about.........Anything else you care to Bear False Witness to Father?
He said behind where he was standing. if he was facing the president who was driving toward him then behind him would have been the grassy knoll. the “mound of grass”. I am not commenting here on 1986 interview.
@@fr.victorperez7714 So you'll ignore the exact area the witness points to and put in your own misleading LIE? He never said Back-Right or Back-Left or Back-Straight.............Nothing more despicable than a LIAR trying to rewrite history for their own Perverse Delusions.........You're not an honorable man and don't ever pretend to be one.
@@fr.victorperez7714the shots that hit happened when the car was in front of the Newmans. In other words, directly behind them was the pergola, or the mall as he called it. You literally show a still from the Nix film that shows the Newman's position at the moment of the head shot. Directly behind them is the pergola, not the fence area.
That is fine. He said garden at one point, "mound of grass." To me it is all a side shot, so NOT the TSBD building. That is all I am trying to show.@@franclin0
There are eyewitness who say shooter was in book depository, so both cannot be right unless there were two shooters
In fact all ballistic, film, and medical evidence demonstrate the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle. Dealey Plaza is an echo chamber.
It's not a question about if William Newman here was right or not, his perspective was that the shots came from behind him. He was right in that sense, but behind him to his left was where they actually came from. With a big crowd cheering, motorcycle engines and echos in thr plaza, it was very difficult to determine with any accuracy where they came from but Newman was right in the sense that they originated somewhere behind him.
@@ronniebishop2496 witness memory is fallable, it is not the best evidence. Conspiracy theorists love witness testimony because often times it conflicts with the physical evidence. But the physical evidence proves that a lot of the witnesses were just plain mistaken. They made an honest assessment of what they thought, but they were just wrong. It happens.
@@ronniebishop2496 he also did not perform an autopsy and was relying on his....memory! Why don't you ever quote the doctors that did the autopsy which conclusively proved all the shots came from the rear?
@@franclin0 No they didn’t prove exclusively anything, good god what in the hell is wrong with you. The doctor that performed the autopsy Dr Humes mysteriously said he accidentally BURNRD HIS NOTES. . You need to stop commenting because you don’t want to know the truth or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’m 58 & this is the first time I’ve seen this. Imagine how of this they’ve covered up.
"Covered up" what?
@@ronniebishop2496 Okay, then you tell me. Covered up what?
@@aaronz7056yeah, Aaron. Start trying to know what happened! 😆😆😆😆😆 that's a new one.
@@ronniebishop2496 Evidence clearly demonstrates what happened.
@@franclin0 I would ask him how somebody approached dozens of people and talked them into bending over backwards making themselves all accessories to murder and treason, but I've never encountered one single conspiracy theorist yet who didn't find an excuse to dodge that question, so...
These people were THERE on November 22, 1963 so everyone can say it was Oswald and he acted alone and all that, but I believe live witnesses. In addition, films show that many people, including a police officer, immediately headed up the knoll.
The search centered on the depository, the place where people actually saw the assassin but just ignore reality and replace it with your childish fantasy nonsense.
@@rawbaconWhat government agency do you work for?
@@Michael_Chandler_Keaton The one that wants to know how many rifles and shooters were seen on the knoll by all those "witnesses" that immediately headed there?
I will offer this: it is easy to get confused with sound, especially since it can 'ricochet' off nearby walls.
a) Officer Haygood ran up the knoll to secure the area and found nothing and nobody, as he firmly testified. People saw him, assumed he must be chasing somebody, and this sparked a rush on onlookers following him, who were then filmed milling aimlessly around behind the fence with nothing to see.
b) Witnesses a few feet directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
c) Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
d) All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
e) Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
f) Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them.
g) It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions with different guns.
This interview is on the History Channel's DVD "JFK: 3 Shots That Changed America."
It's always so important to listen to eyewitness reports before they had seen the Zapruder film.
after all is time it is still gut wrenching compounded a million times over by the likely fact that our own government was involved if not directly behind this cowardly act
All credible evidence points at Oswald.
All I know is there is zero percent chance Oswald fired two accurate shots on a moving target from open sights on a POS Carcano
"Zero chance..."
a) Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate 3 shots over 8-9 seconds, with several seconds between each shot, child's play.
b) Oswald scored 18 out of 20 in rapid fire at targets 200 yards away as per his Marines scorebook.
c) Kennedy was a slow-moving target a maximum of 88 yards away.
d) All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
e) Witnesses a few feet directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
f) Oswald still completely screwed up the first shot, semi-botched the second, and only got it right with the third.
@@aaronz7056 Yeah and Jack Ruby was so distraught he had to shoot Oswald because you know.....feelings🤣. Lastly a freaking marine target range is nothing compared with hitting a pie plate size target at 100 yards moving over open sights on a POS milsurp carano and yeah I'm sure all the bullet forensics match the narrative just like I'm sure the back of Kennedy's head had a massive exit wound but Oswald was firing from behind.
@@AW-zy1kw What the hell did I literally just say above? And I said 88 yards, not 100.
Any idiot just watching Zapruder's film alone will see NOTHING happens at the back of Kennedy's head. In fact:
a) the autopsy photos demonstrate the shots came from behind
b) Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos demonstrating the shots came from behind.
c) Connally's said the shots came from behind.
d) I just said witnesses under the window said the shots came from overhead.
e) I just said all bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
f) Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there.
g) Zapruder's secretary was yards away from the fence and saw nobody there.
h) It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would successfully frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions, with different guns.
@@aaronz7056 And Jack Ruby? You must be one of those types that believes everything the guvmint tells you. And I don't give a crap about 88 yards vs 100. Absolutely meaningless. Carcano's are pieces of crap and that is a highly unlikely shot.
@@aaronz7056 nobody will ever be able to explain how his head snapped backwards while being "shot from the back"...also there was a documentary here on youtube which I can not find now (probably deleted) where a doctor who if I remember correctly first examined JFK or at least was up close in person to the body said that a bullet entered his skull from the front. The best doc right now on youtube is this: /watch?v=e8i-R3saBBs
Yup, the grassy knoll. Have seen pictures of that with a person with what looks like, albeit very raw, no clear definition, of a man pointing a long gun.
If you refer to "Badgeman" he is too big to be human and all credible evidence demonstrates the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle.
Shots came from three different locations at least.
@@ronniebishop2496 Nods, I've looked at the evidence...yeah...2 or 3 shots.
@@ronniebishop2496 So somebody desperate to frame this all on Oswald from the TSBD window did so by firing away from three different directions with different guns, yeah, that's brilliant.
I'll attempt to save the rational, logical people who are reading this before seeing the video, some time. This is William Newman, the man seen laying on his 5 year old son after the shooting. He says the shot came from behind them "up on the mall". Not the picket fence that this video and Oliver Stone intentionally try to make you believe. In the film, jfk, Stone has the Newman character say shots came from the fence up on the mall, but that is not what Newman actually said, nor was he interviewed in Dealey Plaza like the film portrays. Never is the fence mentioned. The depository was right next to the "mall" (pergola) Newman was referring to so it could've easily seemed to him that that's where they were coming from. They were standing right in front of the pergola (if you're facing it) down at the street.
Yes. He says behind the mall which is the pergola. I don't dispute that. "DIrectly behind where we were standing. The president was looking in that direction... they all went back to the railroad cars, in that direction." To me that is a side shot as he says, "the side of his temple." Paul Landis said the same thing to the Warren Commission.
@@fr.victorperez7714he's literally standing next door to the tsbd. The whole place was an echo chamber. I'm not doubting his sincerity, but he was just plain mistaken. There was no evidence of a side shooter and there was no side entrance or exit wounds. Didn't happen.
I was just in Dallas. the depository seems far from where he was shot. He was toward the end of the pergola. The depository is only behind him if he is facing the underpass. But he was facing east watching the President approach him. Anyway the way it concludes makes it look like they both believe it was behind the pergola or even the grassy knoll. But that is a good point that it could not be a total side shot from the pergola. something for me to think about.
@@fr.victorperez7714 just consider this point. He's talking here about the shot that killed the president. That's obviously the most traumatic one for them. He of course says "shots", but it's clear the one they're focused on the most is the one that hit the head literally right in front of them. If you look at that still frame from the Nix film, it's clear that at that moment, the area right behind him is the pergola, not the area where conspiracy theorists insist the fatal shot came from, not the picket fence. There's absolutely no evidence a shot came from the pergola so clearly we're dealing with a case of mistaken direction, and rightly so. Again, plenty of echoes, reverberations and other loud noises lije crowd noise and motorcycle engines...associated with a huge event like that.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind.
Kennedy's exit wound plainly seen exploding at the temple is consistent only with a shot from behind.
Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos.
Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there.
Zapruder's secretary was only yards away from the fence and saw nobody there.
secret service driver (Sam Kenney) of follow up car says there was brain splattered on his windshield.
@@fr.victorperez7714 Blood and gore went in all directions, splattering everybody seated forward in Kennedy's limo, as they all firmly testified.
Sound can and often does ricochet.
@@buckleymordecai9605 "Respectfully disagree - somehow, intuitively, I suspect "respectfully' is lost on you," you say. What the hell does that even refer to? I listed hard and demonstrable evidence.
@@aaronz7056 Parroting what you (we) have been told doesn't equate to "hard and demonstrable evidence".
Why did you show the opposite side of the Knoll from what Newman was talking about? In the 1986 TV Trial Newman cleanly marks the other side, which is shown at 3:10 here and an overview shot would show that it's understandable since the Depository is somewhat in line with the garden area he's talking about.........Anything else you care to Bear False Witness to Father?
He said behind where he was standing. if he was facing the president who was driving toward him then behind him would have been the grassy knoll. the “mound of grass”. I am not commenting here on 1986 interview.
@@fr.victorperez7714 So you'll ignore the exact area the witness points to and put in your own misleading LIE? He never said Back-Right or Back-Left or Back-Straight.............Nothing more despicable than a LIAR trying to rewrite history for their own Perverse Delusions.........You're not an honorable man and don't ever pretend to be one.
@@fr.victorperez7714the shots that hit happened when the car was in front of the Newmans. In other words, directly behind them was the pergola, or the mall as he called it. You literally show a still from the Nix film that shows the Newman's position at the moment of the head shot. Directly behind them is the pergola, not the fence area.
That is fine. He said garden at one point, "mound of grass." To me it is all a side shot, so NOT the TSBD building. That is all I am trying to show.@@franclin0
@@fr.victorperez7714 based on where they were standing, a side shot would've gone through the president and hit Jackie.
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