Nope. It won't. High res such 100mp mainly use for advertising, and most advertiser takes photos use DSLR or kind of red or Hasselblad camera. So still no clear advantage of high res on smartphone.
Zantetsuken Daisuki you should learn about # of pixels vs sensor size. In general, for same sensor size, smaller # of pixels will give each pixel a bigger size which will catch the light better.
@@rwyo83 It is, Samsung is only slapping 108MP in their next phone due to how trash their Software management is when compared to Google. Making as if they'll catch tech savvy's of guard with big numbers on spec sheet when it hardly translate to real time. I'm glad Google, Apple and others are sticking with 12MP
I believe you only forget to consider one vital aspect of digital photography, people want not only to see a crisper image on a screen but they also want to be able to ZOOM elements across the picture, to see better a face, an object or whatever what's in the image. And for that you need more pixels, a lot more pixels actually, to zoom without losing quality.
@@ca09z You forgot one thing: binning 48MP to 12MP can reduce noises by just kicking out the one wrong colour pixel and replace it with the other 3s colour. My 48MP remains noisefree until ISO 10200.
Man I remember my friend got an Xperia ion I was blown away by the fact that it had a 12 mp camera, almost ten years later and it's the go to resolution.
@@rohitgupta7758 Not even DSRL and mirrorless cameras are using sensor with this much pixels. It's as gimmicky as sensors with ultra high dpi on gaming mouse.
I love zooming in the photo to see more, so, higher megapixels are nice for people like me. My phone has a 21MP camera, with gcam and i love the extra detail.
Same, almost all photos look decently sharp until you start cropping in. Then it starts falling apart and almost becomes bad. Im all for the megapixel wars
@@itsmeSmile You mean me? the camera on my phone its a native 21MP camera (Sony IMX 230), if you give it good light you get a lot of detail. If not you can use night sight to boost low light photography. In the port of gcam that i use (GCam-6.1.021-Le2-V2.1-build50 by nullbytepl) i can choose the resolution of the photo... like a normal camera app. I can choose the 21mp option and get high resolution photos with very nice level of detail thanks to HDR+
@@PietroSoft Nope you can't. Gcam is locked in at 12 MPs (Google cam is a software made by google to use computational photography to make the picture amazing, google hasn't developed it for a 21MP) 12 MP is great tho You however can use the whole 21 MP with the native camera app on your phone
The reason for the high MP numbers on phone cameras is for zoom. That's why some of them won't give you that high number until you're zooming in on far objects. And that's related to cropping too in which an image from a higher MP camera still looks sharp after cropping. And yes, lots of pictures posted on social media are cropped. This context is missing totally in your video.
There is optical zoom which will produce better photos than zooming on ultra res sensor. More resolution means smaller pixel on sensor which generally worse when capturing the light from the objects.
@@MelvinKhosa i still have my 6p is a secondary device it's been 4 years but bro.... with the pixel experience 9 rom kt still works like a charm and camera is still better than many of the midrange and upper midrange phones
In addition to images/videos displayed on screen, printed imagery (300dpi) does not require enormous megapixel counts either. 15 to 20 is totally acceptable for the vast majority of cases. This is because the larger the printed image is, the further away the viewer must be to see the image in its entirety. At distance, we lose the ability to perceive finer detail, so we don't gain much from giant photos printed at extremely high resolution unless we're fixated on a small portion of the image, viewing closely. In art applications this objective reasoning might not matter because there is validity in subjective reasoning, but practically speaking, we don't need crazy megapixel counts. Sorry for the long post. Great informative video!
Actually it totally depends on the size of the sensor. Lower megapixel in modern age always have better light sensitivities therefore less noise. If the sensor is bigger, why not increase the megapixel? If the pixel pitch remains similarly, you will still have more resolution with good light sensitivities. Plus, some phone cameras with high MP usually use pixel binning to improve quality of photos, but reducing the resolution of the picture, yet still have adequate noise levels.
strongly disagree. We need more megapixel so we can zoom in and get more details. I need to take a picture of a flower garden and choose my favourite flower in the pic crop it and even see the little stem hairs.
@@FAT8893 Which lens is in the 12 megapixel mobile camera? And which lens is the 48 megapixel mobile camera? Which of the two mobiles will have better photo capture than 12 megapixels?
Why manufacturers and companies make sensors with higher megapixel count than making each pixel bigger is because most customers don't know about why lower megapixel count sensor with bigger pixel size better than sensor with higher megapixel count, but with smaller pixel. All they know is higher megapixel count means better picture
It's like you have 1080p res but watching 720p on youtube to speed up the load 😅😅, i have 48mp smartphone but never use it, always back to the basic 😌 i need more space rather than clarity.
It just don't need to sell the more advanced sensors. Sony has 48 and 60 MP sensors but selling this would just make them lose profit as they have the market share. It would be stupid from a business perspective. Probably even better sensors are waiting to be developed, but right now it's just wasted R&D
Dominance? Bro, Samsung is also selling sensors (they are just shittier). The 108 MP sensor of the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 comes from Samsung. Also it's not like sensors aren't getting bigger. 5 years ago, smartphone camera sensors were so tiny. I hope the new Sony sensor will stay at 12/48 MP while being bigger in size cuz it seems to be optimal.
I mean... what's the point of having more pixels but under perform everything? A camera is a combination of sensors, lens, and software. For me 48 MP is bullshit because you don't need your camera phone to print a wedding photo. But it is great to make it as 12 MP by making it an array of 2x2, which yield to better dynamic range by mimicing a big sensor.
@Nuno Herdeiro Even a big DSLR prime lens like a nikon 50mm 1.8G can only make a perfectly sharp image for a 22 MP sensor. Imagine how bad that tiny lens on a smartphone will be. Any phone camera that advertises above 16 MP is a scam. It is a big factor along with the amount of light the lens can bring in.
@Nuno Herdeiro Cameras indeed have their firmware and a strong image processor. Nikon calls it their EXPEED and canon's DIGIC processor which improves with each generation. They do all the computations like noise reduction, sharpening etc. Next generation image processing alone will improve low light performance and image quality in cameras.
@@orion260 everyone has Samsung? No. Everyone has iPhone? No. People choose what they like You can say most have a certain device, but not all. Please, continue watching UA-cam videos at 1080p or 1440p at most
@@godakuri5944 No one is saying xperia is bad or anything. He said not everyone can see social media at ultra HD. Even if xperia with 4k display exists, still the statement that not everyone uses social media at ultra HD remains true. And are you seriously flexing having a 4k display? Lol it's not 2016. It's 2019 and having a 4k display is nothing to flex about. I have a 4k TV so I've seen what 4k looks like and to be honest on a puny phone screen the difference is barely noticeable considering the amount of battery it requires. Not worth it
I think people don't realise that phones these days with 48MP quad-bayer cameras still output 12MP photos; even the S21 Ultra outputs 12MP photos. Some with 64MP will outpit 16MP, that's about it. Sometimes, though, you do have Xiaomi's Mi Note 10 that does 27MP but who knows why
While 12mp may be enough for displays, it often isn't enough for print. Many print on demand products require many more pixels for large items like shower curtains. Also if you have a few megapixels to spare you'd also have the option to crop an image to improve its composition, etc.
I'd say, sensor sizes and aperture sizes are what really matters in a smartphone. Couple that with good computational photography, you've got a winner.
Dude what an amazing video man. You wouldn't believe how many sales people here in India sell us phones saying... Please buy this it has a 64 mp camera. Ridiculously people do get sold onto that notion.
Because of the aspect ratio of the sensors, 4k requires 12 K on the sensor. This leaves a small excess for electronic image stabilisation. 8K would require a 48K sensor and anything beyond this is ludicrous
If you increase the size of the camera sensor then a higher megapixel count could mean more detail. But if you keep the same size it will not matter whether you have 8mp or 100mp camera, the amount of detail you're getting is going to be the same.
What about when you need to crop? Whenever you need to crop 12 mp is not enough. I agree in the broad sense in what you said, I get that but more mp is the future and it will be better. I would be shocked beyond words if in 50, 25 even 10 years from now that any top tier phones will still be using 12 mp cameras.
But what if you need a picture that you can zoom in after you've taken the picture and still see great details? For that you need a higher megapixel count.
@@ferni0 The Nokia Lumia 1020 proved that you can have a great camera with more megapixels. 12 megapixels is not enough for me and that is why I'm looking forward for some great company to produce a great image sensor with high megapixel count. I agree that 108 megapixels is an overkill now, but the manufactures should move to at least over 30 megapixels.
@@DacLMK Yup, that is why the Lumia 1020 camera is still a great performer despite its age. To this day, I still couldn't find any newer phone that can realistically match the photo quality of the Lumia 1020.
64 mp is the perfect sensor size it can pixel bin to 16 mp and take 1 64mp photo to emulate apples deep fusion and add extra detail and add dynamic range it also allows for 21:9 4k video recording if that's what you wanted to do with lots of pixels to use for eis (ais)
The way I see this is that software is definitely the most important factor in cellphone cameras. The sensor sizes might differ by at most a factor of two between flagship phones, but if one software is able to detect areas of low signal to noise ratio and merge four times as many effective frames in that specific region, then the photo quality will match if not surpass the other one. On top of that, tricks like super resolution will bring an additional noticeable edge, especially when most companies do the opposite, which is down sampling in bad lighting condition shots. Large sensor size is definitely irreplaceable when in extreme low light and when shooting moving object where frame averaging is hard, but aside from that, having a camera software that knows when and how to combine a batch of photos is definitely more desirable.
I’m happy when they put 20MP 1” sensor on smartphone. I needed, I don’t care. Plus give me 6,000mAh battery with 120hz Display. I don’t make prints, I don’t make calls so just texting is fine.
@@DjAlonDevil You are right, it is not for everyone. That is for prosumer or professional photographer who want powerful camera without the need of a bulky DSLR camera including the accessories. I can guarantee you that despite its five years old age, it would still leave the latest phones like P30 Pro or iPhone 11 Pro to dust.
Yes! This is frustrating a bit because it "will" fill storage pretty fast. For avg consumer, you don't really need that much of pixels it will just go to waste. And, to add a another point, higher Megapixel are used by creators (mostly in pictures or photography) to crop the image when needed and still have good amount of pixel for details. Yes, I know crunching more pixels into a smaller resolution will create a crisper images. But 2 times is probably just enough
I heard this b**l Sh*t when Apple insisted that 8 mp is the far most sweet spot. As a photographer my direct answer is no! 24 mp is the sweet point if you consider taking photos with your phone to see them later on any other screen.
Pixel binding? 48÷4=12 64÷4=16 108÷4=27 108÷9=12 I prefer this. You can get lighter shots in bad light and in great light you can get photos with *a lot* of useful detail.
*THANK YOU!* I've been arguing this point ever since people started hailing the 64MP and 108MP sensors as the best smartphone camera to date. And it still baffles me as to how many people deny the truth.
People buy new phones because they no longer function optimally due to outdated software or damaged hardware. When they get a new phone that has camera specs that seem unnecessary, please remember those camera specs come with that phone. Stop worrying about all the hailing.
@@yeeluvspizza Lol I'm the complete opposite. I like to buy old phones to flash newer software such as LineageOS. Sucks that most people don't like to tinker with their phones.
@@DogeFrom2014 Doesn't suck that bad does it? The convenience of going into a store and getting a newly released fully loaded phone that only costs $35-$60/month with zero interest...is AWESOME.
@@yeeluvspizza I don't really like the idea of paying a monthly plan, partially because there are sometimes hidden fees. I'd rather just buy the phone unlocked when I can afford it.
Why is nobody talking about physics there? The denser the pixel count gets, the less light one pixel gets. Ergo a more fussier and blurrier imagine. *You can't compete against physics* and make the image quality better by raising the Mega Pixel count more and more! That's why a smart phone lens will never compete against a single-lens reflex camera. I think 10MP is the sweet spot. It's fills in all the pixels on the screen and records up to 4K.
nowonmetube: Correct.....that's why manufacturers (of phones) rarely mention the sensor size / pixel density. They want people to think that more megapixels alone means better quality images. If phones had a large sensor it would be true , but they don't because there's no room for one in a phone.
not quite exact a 4k computer screen has 8m subpixels red+ 8msubpixel green +8m blue, when you snap a 12 mpix photo you only sample 6m subpixel green + 3m subpixel red + 3mpix subpixel blue. unless your camera sensor has a low pass filter (which usually smartphone sensors do not have) considering shannon sampling theorem we must sample at twice the resolution so to take full advantage of a 4k screen we should sample at 8k resolution in 16:9 ratio that is 44 mpix in 4:3 sensor ratio. though you are right for a 1080p screen which is the typical resolution of todays laptop and phones screens a 12mpix sensor is enough to ensure shannon 2x over-sampling condition
I'm having a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 and the detail is absolutely inslany. But you're right. Because of the higher megapixel camera's, nightmode isn't the best on this phone. But in places with much light [Daylight] you get an insane amount of detail. I took a photo of my dog from 5 foot away and when I zoomed in the picture I could clearly see all individual hears. I think higher resolution is better, but only of you have a second les [or 4 others] to get for example: depth, night shots or zoom.
You realise the Huawei p30 pro and mate 30 pro that have the best mobile phone cameras available use 10mb pixel cameras on their standard default mode right?
What I'm curious about is whether the video considers the fact that larger MP smartphone image sensors have bigger image sensors than the usual 12MP shooters in most other phones, which doesn't seem like any benefit until you realize the pixel binning will result in an equivalent 12MP image taken with a camera sensor that's a bit larger. The Sony IMX586 is a good example of this It's kinda too bad that those who use these sensors don't usually pair it with really good software image processing backends and kinda warrants you to take everything in manual mode. Looking at you OnePlus.
Smartphones bump the resolution up for no reason except making their camera seem better than the competition, it's just a marketing technique and I remember having a 42 mega pixles nokia phone and the camera sucked
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 well that's where I disagree with you. The camera on the Lumia 1020 was and still is a very capable camera still producing beautifully detailed images worth saving. I still have mine that I whip out from time to time.
higher mp now is very usefull specialy when uploading and sending to social media since they are reducing the qualitynof the image, and you can crop photos without losing that much of quality, 12 mp is for iphone screen resolution only, that's it, and you can view it in wide screen monitor and it is very blurred
12 megapixels is 4000 x 3000 or so. 4K video is 3840 pixels wide. One can do a one to one read with minimal crop. With more pixels one would either have huge crop or do excessive processing.
A telephoto lens is way more appropriate for zooming ! About cropping, well, having lot of pixels is nice ideed, but one can argue that having to crop a picture so much it ends up looking bad, means the picture would have been better taken differently (Closer, or zoomed in with a telephoto)
@@Totone56 On cameras of course, but on my Mi9 photos look better when I crop from the 48MP camera than when I shoot them with the cheaper 12MP 2 times telephoto sensor.
@@Lennard222 If only they implemented telephoto without cheaping out on the sensor that goes with it ... That's what manufacturers often do, sadly, except maybe Google and Apple !
Point is that 108mp is gimmick. Focus should be on better quality 48mp sensors. Not even 64mp. What's the use if the quality is trash (in terms of dynamic range) when you crop in?
I have a few criticisms here. First, it's important to at least mention the use cases where more megapixels DO matter: Printing and cropping. Most people don't print their smartphone photos, it's true, but for those who do--even only on rare occasions--12 megapixels can be limiting in terms of the print size you can produce and have it look good. Cropping, though, is much more common. To zoom digitally or just adjust the composition, having more megapixels allows you to crop in and preserve much more usable detail. Second, using the Sony A7S series as an example for how 12 megapixels is enough is an egregious example of cherrypicking. The A7S series is the exception among full frame cameras, not the rule. Most full frame cameras offer 30 or more megapixels. The A7S is a specialized camera intended primarily for video work, not photos--that's why it has a low megapixel count, because its main purpose is to shoot 4k video, not to take pictures. Lastly, we're not far out from 5k or higher becoming the new standard in high-end computer monitors and televisions--give it a couple more years and it'll start to become as mainstream as 4k is now. Even 5k resolution (let alone 6k or 8k) is around 15 megapixels. So having higher megapixel counts now is a good thing for future-proofing even in terms of looking at pictures on screens.
More mpixels make sense for a profesional, because you can crop without loosing quality. Bigger sensor resolution also enables digital stabilization because the frame is larger than the video you're making. I'm using a phone with 48 mpix "quad pixel" sensor. It approximates 4 pixels to make one and effectively makes 12mpix images. It makes sense. Aaaand I do own a DSLR so phone cameras are just "fun and games" for me.
Next years s11 and note series will have 108mp but will have 5 cameras in which one will be dedicated to 108mp and a dedicated night lens also
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@@richardstewart7263 yeah but Samsung knows to divide the resolution to increase the pixel size to increase quality in low light situations but when the iso and shutter is low enough like in bright light they combine to give you that high quality and it will use an 85+ percent jpg or heif compression. Also while the $1200 with tax iPhone prolapse still ships with a miserable 64gb base the nearly half priced s10e ships with 128gb base and a 256gb micro SD is a mere $30 and on top of that you can plug any fat 32 formatted flashdrive into an Android with otg and transfer directly to it.
In a few years you're going to look at your "12MP sweet spot" 4032x2268 16:9 images, and regret not having any decent-size photos of your younger days. Not that long ago, people said full HD (1920x1080) was excessive, whereas today 4k (3840x2160), 5k (5120x2880) and 8k (7680x4320) displays are increasingly popular. Even 16k (15360×8640) screens exist already.
P.S. For those who don't know, a "12MP camera" is measured using the old-fashioned 4:3 picture aspect. If you take 16:9 photos, they actually come out as 9MP. If you want ultrawide photos, it drops below 7MP. 4032 x 3024 (12MP) 4:3 4032 x 2268 (9MP) 16:9 4032 x 1728 (
AA : 12MP is the sweet spot.
Mi Note 10 : Y'all hear sumn?
Note 10 has 12. 16 is for the wide lens because there's more pixels to fill in
Rob Alfie Inostroza-Lindley not true it has 108MP
@@c1bdc867 I'm sorryi I thought you said Note10, as Samsung's. You said Mi, that's correct, I read "mi" as in "my Note10 "in Spanish lol
Rob Alfie Inostroza-Lindley ahh
Rob Alfie Inostroza-Lindley lmao
It's like UA-cam knows what I've been wondering.
...you've been data mined!...
Yeah last day i was talking about flagships havin low pixal count with my budd..
It's almost like Google knows you...
because they do... sometimes it's convenient, but feels violated because i didn't ask for it and i don't know how much more they know
@@lucassantossj Yes...it almost feels like someone cares for you.
*5 years later
Why 108mp is a great resolution for smartphone cameras
Nope. It won't. High res such 100mp mainly use for advertising, and most advertiser takes photos use DSLR or kind of red or Hasselblad camera. So still no clear advantage of high res on smartphone.
@@RidwanNurzeha but bigger megapixel camera get more light.
Zantetsuken Daisuki you should learn about # of pixels vs sensor size. In general, for same sensor size, smaller # of pixels will give each pixel a bigger size which will catch the light better.
Ridwan Nurzeha still no one knows what the future holds and you can't beat that fact
@@RidwanNurzeha i see,Thanks for the info.
I am watching on my samsung note 8 and i feel comfortable now
Dude the LGG4 camera is still serviceable today so the note 8 camera was definitely gonna be good for atleast a couple more years to come
The note 8 still takes amazing photos. Switched to the note 10 a few days ago but the note 8's camera always held it's own.
@@carlosalba7790 my friend also got note 10 but he told me that note 8 picture are better than note 10 he compare with it
@@apexboys3027 yeah the few pictures I compared were in good light but they both did great.
And i'm watching this video 1080 on my LG Stylo 5. ;-)
In my opinion
Software is the most important for precessing good cameras. Because google has a great application software like Gcam(Google Camera)
Not just software, it's a combination of all these factors - the lens, the sensor, the software etc.
There’s a reason why Apple and Google use 12MP
108mp is only marketing gimmick
@@rwyo83 It is, Samsung is only slapping 108MP in their next phone due to how trash their Software management is when compared to Google. Making as if they'll catch tech savvy's of guard with big numbers on spec sheet when it hardly translate to real time. I'm glad Google, Apple and others are sticking with 12MP
@@Racko. They're making believe people that the S11 will be a great upgrade, and a reason to charge 30% more for their next release.
Maybe it's just my headphones, but that glitchy sounding background music made me feel very uneasy.
Yup
It's not your headphones... I can hear it in my speakers
@@gabrielraphi5771 me too
Me too
Even my dali io6 headphones sounds uneasy
I believe you only forget to consider one vital aspect of digital photography, people want not only to see a crisper image on a screen but they also want to be able to ZOOM elements across the picture, to see better a face, an object or whatever what's in the image. And for that you need more pixels, a lot more pixels actually, to zoom without losing quality.
Well if you are person who likes to zoom in on your pictures, there is nothing wrong with going for more megapixels.
I think having more MP is better so that cropping an image would be a lot more nicer because of that.
Finally someone who understand how hardware and software should work.
ps: 48MP is shit on low light images even with gcam.
If one wants proper low light, use a tripod and do a longer exposure
How does a 48mp camera have a built in night mode then? Y'all don't even know hardware 😂
@@ca09z you clearly haven't got any idea what I'm saying here
@@ca09z You forgot one thing: binning 48MP to 12MP can reduce noises by just kicking out the one wrong colour pixel and replace it with the other 3s colour. My 48MP remains noisefree until ISO 10200.
@@Brainman_2331 or be like me and just have a dslr with a fast prime lens and be on your merry way
Man I remember my friend got an Xperia ion I was blown away by the fact that it had a 12 mp camera, almost ten years later and it's the go to resolution.
My POCO F1 is Happy hearing this.
Me too
Just get gcam and its 95% as good as pixel 2
@@xentiment6581 already using the same. In fact POCO F1 has the same camera sensor as Pixel.
poco f1 portrait camera suck tbh
@@xentiment6581 install pixel experience custom rom and it's even faster and snappier than a pixel because of more RAM
2019: Why 12mp is a great resolution for smartphone cameras
2040: Why 1000mp is a great resolution for smartphone cameras
No in 2021
Next mobile chipset and software will utilise this 108 mp so efficiently you will forget 12mp completely
@@rohitgupta7758 Not even DSRL and mirrorless cameras are using sensor with this much pixels. It's as gimmicky as sensors with ultra high dpi on gaming mouse.
@@celtelf bruh
@@itszortrax dude
EpicRobot Arts 1 gigapixel
I love zooming in the photo to see more, so, higher megapixels are nice for people like me. My phone has a 21MP camera, with gcam and i love the extra detail.
Same, almost all photos look decently sharp until you start cropping in. Then it starts falling apart and almost becomes bad. Im all for the megapixel wars
Which version of Gcam has 21mp support? 🤔
@@Predators4U that's what i was thinking too
i think he is just having a case of "Placebo effect"
@@itsmeSmile You mean me? the camera on my phone its a native 21MP camera (Sony IMX 230), if you give it good light you get a lot of detail. If not you can use night sight to boost low light photography. In the port of gcam that i use (GCam-6.1.021-Le2-V2.1-build50 by nullbytepl) i can choose the resolution of the photo... like a normal camera app. I can choose the 21mp option and get high resolution photos with very nice level of detail thanks to HDR+
@@PietroSoft Nope you can't. Gcam is locked in at 12 MPs (Google cam is a software made by google to use computational photography to make the picture amazing, google hasn't developed it for a 21MP) 12 MP is great tho
You however can use the whole 21 MP with the native camera app on your phone
The reason for the high MP numbers on phone cameras is for zoom. That's why some of them won't give you that high number until you're zooming in on far objects. And that's related to cropping too in which an image from a higher MP camera still looks sharp after cropping. And yes, lots of pictures posted on social media are cropped. This context is missing totally in your video.
You missed the point, what matters the most is the size of the sensor not the amount of pixels
Telephoto lens: Am I a joke to you?
There is optical zoom which will produce better photos than zooming on ultra res sensor. More resolution means smaller pixel on sensor which generally worse when capturing the light from the objects.
Yes thats the reason I do that a lot of times .cropped pics of a 10mp picture are crap
but why you cant zoom in Mi note 10
A Ryan Thomas video on Android Authority, you love to see it
Nexus 5x had 12mp
6p
Both did.
@@MelvinKhosa i still have my 6p is a secondary device it's been 4 years but bro.... with the pixel experience 9 rom kt still works like a charm and camera is still better than many of the midrange and upper midrange phones
Nexus 5
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In addition to images/videos displayed on screen, printed imagery (300dpi) does not require enormous megapixel counts either. 15 to 20 is totally acceptable for the vast majority of cases. This is because the larger the printed image is, the further away the viewer must be to see the image in its entirety. At distance, we lose the ability to perceive finer detail, so we don't gain much from giant photos printed at extremely high resolution unless we're fixated on a small portion of the image, viewing closely. In art applications this objective reasoning might not matter because there is validity in subjective reasoning, but practically speaking, we don't need crazy megapixel counts.
Sorry for the long post. Great informative video!
But when you look at something, your eyes ARE fixed to one point. You cannot watch all at the same time...
Actually it totally depends on the size of the sensor. Lower megapixel in modern age always have better light sensitivities therefore less noise. If the sensor is bigger, why not increase the megapixel? If the pixel pitch remains similarly, you will still have more resolution with good light sensitivities. Plus, some phone cameras with high MP usually use pixel binning to improve quality of photos, but reducing the resolution of the picture, yet still have adequate noise levels.
strongly disagree. We need more megapixel so we can zoom in and get more details. I need to take a picture of a flower garden and choose my favourite flower in the pic crop it and even see the little stem hairs.
This Video: “12MP Is A Great Resolution for cameras”
Apple: yEs
Same with Google pixel!
12MP is great resolution
Mi Note 10: *Am I a joke to you?*
Haha
Can i get 1000 subscribers? Yes.
Yes. 108MP gimmick. lol.
I see a lot of androids in the comments making fun of low mega pixel counts
By default, it will be 12 MP (array of 3x3) or 27 MP (array of 2x2)
This video is so useful AA.
Need more
Great video, been wondering about this for a long time.
Ikr? Finally someone said it
XiaoMi: *Laughs in 108 megapixels*
Because it has better camera lens.
@@prakashdhiravani2417 That's just half the story, you also have to consider the camera's software algortihm as well.
@@FAT8893 Which lens is in the 12 megapixel mobile camera? And which lens is the 48 megapixel mobile camera? Which of the two mobiles will have better photo capture than 12 megapixels?
@@prakashdhiravani2417 ...I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Google Pixel: *Laughs in Snapdragon 855*
I have read an article that Nikon did a research regarding 12mp thing. They even said that this resolution is the best megapixel/megapickel
Why manufacturers and companies make sensors with higher megapixel count than making each pixel bigger is because most customers don't know about why lower megapixel count sensor with bigger pixel size better than sensor with higher megapixel count, but with smaller pixel. All they know is higher megapixel count means better picture
I agree with you
Most buyers don't know much about photography so companies continue to fool them with these numbers just to raise the price
It's like you have 1080p res but watching 720p on youtube to speed up the load 😅😅, i have 48mp smartphone but never use it, always back to the basic 😌 i need more space rather than clarity.
Why can Sony increase sensor size and pixel size? It seems that their progress is so slow thanks to their dominance.
It just don't need to sell the more advanced sensors. Sony has 48 and 60 MP sensors but selling this would just make them lose profit as they have the market share. It would be stupid from a business perspective. Probably even better sensors are waiting to be developed, but right now it's just wasted R&D
Sony can still sell sensors to other companies, since that's what they're doing now
Soon bro imx 656 in 65MP
Dominance? Bro, Samsung is also selling sensors (they are just shittier). The 108 MP sensor of the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 comes from Samsung. Also it's not like sensors aren't getting bigger. 5 years ago, smartphone camera sensors were so tiny. I hope the new Sony sensor will stay at 12/48 MP while being bigger in size cuz it seems to be optimal.
I mean... what's the point of having more pixels but under perform everything?
A camera is a combination of sensors, lens, and software.
For me 48 MP is bullshit because you don't need your camera phone to print a wedding photo.
But it is great to make it as 12 MP by making it an array of 2x2, which yield to better dynamic range by mimicing a big sensor.
Great vid, eye opener :-) (pixel owner)
AA has been getting better and better of late!
Without watching, let me guess. The image quality from the lens.?
@Nuno Herdeiro Even a big DSLR prime lens like a nikon 50mm 1.8G can only make a perfectly sharp image for a 22 MP sensor. Imagine how bad that tiny lens on a smartphone will be. Any phone camera that advertises above 16 MP is a scam. It is a big factor along with the amount of light the lens can bring in.
@Nuno Herdeiro Cameras indeed have their firmware and a strong image processor. Nikon calls it their EXPEED and canon's DIGIC processor which improves with each generation. They do all the computations like noise reduction, sharpening etc. Next generation image processing alone will improve low light performance and image quality in cameras.
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Higher megapixel helps artists to zoom in a lot while painting details...
raizo wanderer not everyone is an artist
@@hanhan9123 and 108mp camera is not for everyone
raizo wanderer: How do artists zoom a paintbrush?
@@paganphil100 they don't... They zoom in the reference photos taken from a camera
the problem is that more pixels doesn't bring you more details.
I would actually suggest smartphones to get a larger lens overall( just like s4 zoom) did back then.. An increase to 24mp to capture 8k..
AA:-12MP is enough on a phone...
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"If everyone on this earth viewed social media photos on a ultra HD display, which they are not by the way"
Xperia users: "Am I a joke to you"
Everyone one
Read it again but slower
Everyone has an xperia? No
@@orion260 everyone has Samsung? No. Everyone has iPhone? No.
People choose what they like
You can say most have a certain device, but not all.
Please, continue watching UA-cam videos at 1080p or 1440p at most
@@godakuri5944 No one is saying xperia is bad or anything. He said not everyone can see social media at ultra HD. Even if xperia with 4k display exists, still the statement that not everyone uses social media at ultra HD remains true. And are you seriously flexing having a 4k display? Lol it's not 2016. It's 2019 and having a 4k display is nothing to flex about. I have a 4k TV so I've seen what 4k looks like and to be honest on a puny phone screen the difference is barely noticeable considering the amount of battery it requires. Not worth it
I think people don't realise that phones these days with 48MP quad-bayer cameras still output 12MP photos; even the S21 Ultra outputs 12MP photos. Some with 64MP will outpit 16MP, that's about it.
Sometimes, though, you do have Xiaomi's Mi Note 10 that does 27MP but who knows why
Inserting bit about Mi doing 27mp
Excellent video ! Very good down to earth explanation ! From a Pragmatic Mobile Pocophone F1 with12 MP Rear camera... Cheers !
I'm still happy with my 7plus🥰 it's been 3 years but still super fast & supper good in all aspects
"640K is more memory than anyone will ever need on a computer"
Hahaha
Bill Gates 😝
It will become bigger but really really slow. unlike storage size
Yea that’s true. Because moores law is not for cameras
While 12mp may be enough for displays, it often isn't enough for print. Many print on demand products require many more pixels for large items like shower curtains. Also if you have a few megapixels to spare you'd also have the option to crop an image to improve its composition, etc.
Dreaming of a phone with a 1" sensor with 8.3 Mpixel and a super fast lens with f 0.95.
I'd say, sensor sizes and aperture sizes are what really matters in a smartphone. Couple that with good computational photography, you've got a winner.
"Better" apertures would also not make it better. It depend's on the software.
Nikon has been using 12mp CMOS sensors before smartphones existed
marlon chin: Yes, and they produced much better photos than even the best smartphones that exist today :-)
Dude what an amazing video man. You wouldn't believe how many sales people here in India sell us phones saying... Please buy this it has a 64 mp camera. Ridiculously people do get sold onto that notion.
Because of the aspect ratio of the sensors, 4k requires 12 K on the sensor. This leaves a small excess for electronic image stabilisation.
8K would require a 48K sensor and anything beyond this is ludicrous
108MP quad-bayer is only 27MP. None of them is 8k ready
Informative comment, thanks
True that, 12MP is usually 4000 pixels wide compared to 4K at 3840 pixels wide
Not mentioned about the details when picture is zoomed in! More pixels definitely helps keeping those details.
If you increase the size of the camera sensor then a higher megapixel count could mean more detail. But if you keep the same size it will not matter whether you have 8mp or 100mp camera, the amount of detail you're getting is going to be the same.
If the sensor is so small, no matter if you put 50 100 or 200 mpix the quality wont improve much, and the low light performance will be rubbish
Sensor size is basically the most important factor for picture resolution/Quality
No the most important factor for picture quality is to have keanu reeves in the picture.
@Chelle i said the most important factor... MOST that means there are other factors that are important but not as.
Nope, it's the software behind each picture that the most important. Good phone camera+bad software= bad picture
@@victorryan4870 Nope, it's the sensor behind each picture that the most important. Bad sensor camera+good software= bad picture
Glorious 60fps I guess you can’t argue which one is more important... missing either messes up the picture
What about when you need to crop? Whenever you need to crop 12 mp is not enough.
I agree in the broad sense in what you said, I get that but more mp is the future and it will be better. I would be shocked beyond words if in 50, 25 even 10 years from now that any top tier phones will still be using 12 mp cameras.
I have a 108 megapixel camera.
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I still like the output from my S7 edge and S9+. Both uses a 12mp camera.
My dslr is 16 mp and i can print 20x30 inch prints w no issue..
Dslr use Real Pixel, while phone use Pixel Binning
You probably don't even need that many MP to make a decent print.
JogBird: Yes, 16 megapixels is plenty for a real camera......I used a 12 megapixel camera for many years with excellent results.
True. I still use the mi4 and there i times where i want cropped picture but most of the time it gets the job done
But what if you need a picture that you can zoom in after you've taken the picture and still see great details? For that you need a higher megapixel count.
Dac DT 12mp is enough for most details, and what if you need an actually good and efficient camera? Which is what you look for 99% of the time
@@ferni0 The Nokia Lumia 1020 proved that you can have a great camera with more megapixels. 12 megapixels is not enough for me and that is why I'm looking forward for some great company to produce a great image sensor with high megapixel count. I agree that 108 megapixels is an overkill now, but the manufactures should move to at least over 30 megapixels.
@@DacLMK Yup, that is why the Lumia 1020 camera is still a great performer despite its age. To this day, I still couldn't find any newer phone that can realistically match the photo quality of the Lumia 1020.
I'd rather have a 3MP image from currently largest phone sensors
there's a reason why pro photographers prefer 6.5µm pitch
64 mp is the perfect sensor size it can pixel bin to 16 mp and take 1 64mp photo to emulate apples deep fusion and add extra detail and add dynamic range it also allows for 21:9 4k video recording if that's what you wanted to do with lots of pixels to use for eis (ais)
The way I see this is that software is definitely the most important factor in cellphone cameras. The sensor sizes might differ by at most a factor of two between flagship phones, but if one software is able to detect areas of low signal to noise ratio and merge four times as many effective frames in that specific region, then the photo quality will match if not surpass the other one. On top of that, tricks like super resolution will bring an additional noticeable edge, especially when most companies do the opposite, which is down sampling in bad lighting condition shots. Large sensor size is definitely irreplaceable when in extreme low light and when shooting moving object where frame averaging is hard, but aside from that, having a camera software that knows when and how to combine a batch of photos is definitely more desirable.
Wait for the Galaxy S11+
S11+ is crap
@@rwyo83 it's not even out yet
@Matthew Henry There is no innovation. The S11 is only marketing gimmick
@@rwyo83 what phone are you using?
Phones in 2020 will become a commodity.
AA:Why 12MP is good
S11:Hold my 108MP
Its all started with Samsung Galaxy Alpha where samsung downgraded its camera from 16mp in Galaxy S5 to 12mp in alpha for better quality.
Now i know why i was getting this video suggestion again and again on Mi A3
12 MP is a bit to low, it would have been great to have 16 or 18 by this time.
Take a pic with a 12mp phone and a 128mp phone and take same picture on each and zoom in and you will see the difference.
True but for for most users it's over kill
I’m happy when they put 20MP 1” sensor on smartphone. I needed, I don’t care. Plus give me 6,000mAh battery with 120hz Display. I don’t make prints, I don’t make calls so just texting is fine.
Panasonic should make a new CM1 successor. At the time when the CM1 was launched, it was a worthy rival for the Nokia Lumia 1020.
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1-Inch is too big for a phone. The Panasonic CM1 had a huge camera and that's not for everyone.
@@DjAlonDevil You are right, it is not for everyone. That is for prosumer or professional photographer who want powerful camera without the need of a bulky DSLR camera including the accessories. I can guarantee you that despite its five years old age, it would still leave the latest phones like P30 Pro or iPhone 11 Pro to dust.
20mp with 2um pixel size and 1 inch sensor size will be great
Yes! This is frustrating a bit because it "will" fill storage pretty fast. For avg consumer, you don't really need that much of pixels it will just go to waste. And, to add a another point, higher Megapixel are used by creators (mostly in pictures or photography) to crop the image when needed and still have good amount of pixel for details. Yes, I know crunching more pixels into a smaller resolution will create a crisper images. But 2 times is probably just enough
I heard this b**l Sh*t when Apple insisted that 8 mp is the far most sweet spot. As a photographer my direct answer is no! 24 mp is the sweet point if you consider taking photos with your phone to see them later on any other screen.
Pixel binding?
48÷4=12
64÷4=16
108÷4=27
108÷9=12
I prefer this. You can get lighter shots in bad light and in great light you can get photos with *a lot* of useful detail.
It's about zooming in while viewing the pictures! 🙄
hope they'll stick with this 12mp sensor in the future but with higher size of micron pixel maybe 1.7
I do care about micron pixel, just look at HTC One M8. That has 2.0 micron pixel, the night shot from that phone is insane!
everybody: Mi note 10 108mp
me: My MOTO Nexus 6 still freakin fine for me 😹
*THANK YOU!* I've been arguing this point ever since people started hailing the 64MP and 108MP sensors as the best smartphone camera to date. And it still baffles me as to how many people deny the truth.
People buy new phones because they no longer function optimally due to outdated software or damaged hardware.
When they get a new phone that has camera specs that seem unnecessary, please remember those camera specs come with that phone. Stop worrying about all the hailing.
@@yeeluvspizza Lol I'm the complete opposite. I like to buy old phones to flash newer software such as LineageOS. Sucks that most people don't like to tinker with their phones.
@@DogeFrom2014 Doesn't suck that bad does it? The convenience of going into a store and getting a newly released fully loaded phone that only costs $35-$60/month with zero interest...is AWESOME.
@@yeeluvspizza I don't really like the idea of paying a monthly plan, partially because there are sometimes hidden fees. I'd rather just buy the phone unlocked when I can afford it.
@@DogeFrom2014 no hidden fees ever at TMobile. Ur just paying for the phone with no interest and u can pay it off anytime too
108 MP downscale to 12 MP is the great thing, at least for now.
Why is nobody talking about physics there?
The denser the pixel count gets, the less light one pixel gets. Ergo a more fussier and blurrier imagine.
*You can't compete against physics* and make the image quality better by raising the Mega Pixel count more and more! That's why a smart phone lens will never compete against a single-lens reflex camera.
I think 10MP is the sweet spot. It's fills in all the pixels on the screen and records up to 4K.
nowonmetube: Correct.....that's why manufacturers (of phones) rarely mention the sensor size / pixel density. They want people to think that more megapixels alone means better quality images. If phones had a large sensor it would be true , but they don't because there's no room for one in a phone.
"12MP is the optimum number for smartphone camera"
Xiaomi: "times 10 minus 12"
It's 12 times 9...
@@Dubadubadu123 lol
not quite exact a 4k computer screen has 8m subpixels red+ 8msubpixel green +8m blue, when you snap a 12 mpix photo you only sample 6m subpixel green + 3m subpixel red + 3mpix subpixel blue. unless your camera sensor has a low pass filter (which usually smartphone sensors do not have) considering shannon sampling theorem we must sample at twice the resolution so to take full advantage of a 4k screen we should sample at 8k resolution in 16:9 ratio that is 44 mpix in 4:3 sensor ratio. though you are right for a 1080p screen which is the typical resolution of todays laptop and phones screens a 12mpix sensor is enough to ensure shannon 2x over-sampling condition
The keyword "today". But in 15-20 years, photos in such resolution will be ridiculous. Especially family/home photos.
I'm having a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 and the detail is absolutely inslany. But you're right. Because of the higher megapixel camera's, nightmode isn't the best on this phone. But in places with much light [Daylight] you get an insane amount of detail. I took a photo of my dog from 5 foot away and when I zoomed in the picture I could clearly see all individual hears. I think higher resolution is better, but only of you have a second les [or 4 others] to get for example: depth, night shots or zoom.
You realise the Huawei p30 pro and mate 30 pro that have the best mobile phone cameras available use 10mb pixel cameras on their standard default mode right?
Awesome video explanation on why it's not all about megapixels
REDMI clearly doesn't know that.
What I'm curious about is whether the video considers the fact that larger MP smartphone image sensors have bigger image sensors than the usual 12MP shooters in most other phones, which doesn't seem like any benefit until you realize the pixel binning will result in an equivalent 12MP image taken with a camera sensor that's a bit larger. The Sony IMX586 is a good example of this
It's kinda too bad that those who use these sensors don't usually pair it with really good software image processing backends and kinda warrants you to take everything in manual mode. Looking at you OnePlus.
You won't be saying this when the S11 comes out.
Smartphones bump the resolution up for no reason except making their camera seem better than the competition, it's just a marketing technique and I remember having a 42 mega pixles nokia phone and the camera sucked
Dry Saliva more megapixels effects when you zoom the image. You can see more details..
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 well that's where I disagree with you. The camera on the Lumia 1020 was and still is a very capable camera still producing beautifully detailed images worth saving. I still have mine that I whip out from time to time.
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 it was 41 and it was beautiful !!!!
What's more impressive about the 108 mp sensor is its size not the megapixel count
higher mp now is very usefull specialy when uploading and sending to social media since they are reducing the qualitynof the image, and you can crop photos without losing that much of quality, 12 mp is for iphone screen resolution only, that's it, and you can view it in wide screen monitor and it is very blurred
With that kind of mentality there would be no smartphone innovation.
Physics is a Joke.... You can litteraly calculate the limits of this tiny sensor.
Did u even watch up to the very last minute of the video? Cmon. With that mentality human beings won't prosper at all.
12 megapixels is 4000 x 3000 or so. 4K video is 3840 pixels wide. One can do a one to one read with minimal crop. With more pixels one would either have huge crop or do excessive processing.
What if the guy wanna crop the photo
Very good video, thanks for that, AA!
Yeah, but when you want to zoom in/crop the image? 🤷
A telephoto lens is way more appropriate for zooming !
About cropping, well, having lot of pixels is nice ideed, but one can argue that having to crop a picture so much it ends up looking bad, means the picture would have been better taken differently (Closer, or zoomed in with a telephoto)
@@Totone56 On cameras of course, but on my Mi9 photos look better when I crop from the 48MP camera than when I shoot them with the cheaper 12MP 2 times telephoto sensor.
@@Lennard222 If only they implemented telephoto without cheaping out on the sensor that goes with it ...
That's what manufacturers often do, sadly, except maybe Google and Apple !
More pixels would be helpful if you crop in a lot in your photos.
Point is that 108mp is gimmick.
Focus should be on better quality 48mp sensors. Not even 64mp.
What's the use if the quality is trash (in terms of dynamic range) when you crop in?
@@N0Xa880iUL agreed 🙌
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I have a few criticisms here.
First, it's important to at least mention the use cases where more megapixels DO matter: Printing and cropping. Most people don't print their smartphone photos, it's true, but for those who do--even only on rare occasions--12 megapixels can be limiting in terms of the print size you can produce and have it look good. Cropping, though, is much more common. To zoom digitally or just adjust the composition, having more megapixels allows you to crop in and preserve much more usable detail.
Second, using the Sony A7S series as an example for how 12 megapixels is enough is an egregious example of cherrypicking. The A7S series is the exception among full frame cameras, not the rule. Most full frame cameras offer 30 or more megapixels. The A7S is a specialized camera intended primarily for video work, not photos--that's why it has a low megapixel count, because its main purpose is to shoot 4k video, not to take pictures.
Lastly, we're not far out from 5k or higher becoming the new standard in high-end computer monitors and televisions--give it a couple more years and it'll start to become as mainstream as 4k is now. Even 5k resolution (let alone 6k or 8k) is around 15 megapixels. So having higher megapixel counts now is a good thing for future-proofing even in terms of looking at pictures on screens.
Why there is no Subtitle option..???
More mpixels make sense for a profesional, because you can crop without loosing quality. Bigger sensor resolution also enables digital stabilization because the frame is larger than the video you're making. I'm using a phone with 48 mpix "quad pixel" sensor. It approximates 4 pixels to make one and effectively makes 12mpix images. It makes sense. Aaaand I do own a DSLR so phone cameras are just "fun and games" for me.
No wonder Samsung flaghip phones capped at 12mp they knew it is perfect
Next years s11 and note series will have 108mp but will have 5 cameras in which one will be dedicated to 108mp and a dedicated night lens also
@@richardstewart7263 yeah but Samsung knows to divide the resolution to increase the pixel size to increase quality in low light situations but when the iso and shutter is low enough like in bright light they combine to give you that high quality and it will use an 85+ percent jpg or heif compression. Also while the $1200 with tax iPhone prolapse still ships with a miserable 64gb base the nearly half priced s10e ships with 128gb base and a 256gb micro SD is a mere $30 and on top of that you can plug any fat 32 formatted flashdrive into an Android with otg and transfer directly to it.
more pixel means crispy sharp image when u zoom or crop the image.
If the "lens" supports it.
@@mark9773: And if the sensor is big enough.
Because samsung, Google, apple..
They have good post processing image software
Realme, Xiaomi ... focus on the hardware
Btw the 108 MP sensor on the Mi Note 10 was developed by Xiaomi AND Samsung.
Its easier to sell say a buzzword like 48 mp or 108 mp for these companies
Where was this channel all this years why haven't UA-cam recommend it me earlier
so that's why S7 edge has 12 MP not 13 lol
Yep Samsung went for quality instead of quantity
I've taken some beautiful photos my my s7 edge
This is my favourite phone of all time. And now I use an S10+
In a few years you're going to look at your "12MP sweet spot" 4032x2268 16:9 images, and regret not having any decent-size photos of your younger days.
Not that long ago, people said full HD (1920x1080) was excessive, whereas today 4k (3840x2160), 5k (5120x2880) and 8k (7680x4320) displays are increasingly popular. Even 16k (15360×8640) screens exist already.
A 12MP photo can't even fill a 2160p ultrawide (5120x2160) screen, let alone anything 5k or more. You can forget about cropping or zooming.
P.S. For those who don't know, a "12MP camera" is measured using the old-fashioned 4:3 picture aspect. If you take 16:9 photos, they actually come out as 9MP. If you want ultrawide photos, it drops below 7MP.
4032 x 3024 (12MP) 4:3
4032 x 2268 (9MP) 16:9
4032 x 1728 (
Is it me or the video have some ticking sound?
Yes I'm hearing it to
I think the more megapixels you've better the daylight picture you'll get and for low light shots lower the megapixel greater will be results