Can Missing Link Do Non-G1 Transformers?
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I think you missed a huge selling point of a potential Missing Link Armada: articulated Mini-Cons. I would buy them in a heartbeat.
I mean ig technically if hasbro would actually make them they already have with "shattered glass sideswipes" (we all know who it really is though) minicon (forgot his name) and hotshot minicon jolt. They've done them they just haven't made any more cause of "budget". But I still would like to see the original ones with articulation
@@TheOfficialCringeatron the star saber definitely deserves to be more than just a single color accessory for Legacy screamer
@@himitsu_tokusketch for sure.
ML would be a great opportunity to bring out versions of characters that never got reissues due to the mold being lost. Sunstreaker for one. I'd also love to see Sideswipe and Astrotrain.
Dinobots are in that too, but I’m curious how the molds get lost
@@telaviefilms280Some old molds are either broken so they can't use it anymore and others are truly lost like transmetal covert ravage.
I'm gonna be honest, I think that Missing Link should at some point delve into figures that were cancelled-
even the RECENT ones- like the Straxus that was supposed to be in Transformers Legacy
That’s what the comic edition Straxus was I thought
@@lukasgemmill8084 The comic edition Straxus is a proper version of the character as he appeared in the G1 comics, the Legacy Straxus was more of a "frankenstein's monster" of parts from various bots, with his head in a jar in his chest, like Arnim Zola. It's kinda weird, and would essentially be a Straxus in name only.
@@lukasgemmill8084 nope! Legacy Straxus was actually gonna look like that destroyed IDW design!
I’d love for the Minicon play pattern to make a comeback.
I wouldn't even need them to activate gimmicks. Just have the Mini-Cons double as mounted weapons, armor, and the underrepresented tools (scanners, hammers, medical/repair equipment...that sort of thing) either as a third mode or an offshoot of their usual alt mode. I'd be happy with that.
@@ShadowWingTronix Kinda like how WFC Micromasters also had weapon modes (some better than others).
@@strawdeath263 Right, or like.the armorizers, but these would be worn by the bigger robots instead of handheld.
Missing Link G1/G2 combiners would be a money printer.
Are you sure Missing Link is about the number scheme? It makes way more sense that it would be about being the evolutionary “missing link” between the first toys and toys of today. In the same way that people say the missing link would explain how land mammals came from fish creatures. The missing link Optimus fills that evolutionary stop gap between an 80s toy and a 2020s toy
I would love to see them try Missing Link G1 Blitzwing. Just to see how they pull off the arms.
I want them do newer characters in g1 missing link style like drift, or windblade
In my opinion , 86 movie characters is the line. Before that, everything is an extreme nostalgic State. After that, we're getting updates already for these molds and sooner or later they will do a generations G2 Megatron and that'll take care of green and purple Megatron as well as the combat hero versions and those will be good enough. Meanwhile, for Armada, they're already tackling remakes for those
I think they will do a Tankatron and Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp next. Then maybe Rodimus and Galvatron.
I believe Takara can do Megatron as a gun, though Hasbro can't sell it for obvious reasons. The Seekers are surely on the short list of ones to do, though I've no idea how they'd incorporate the fists.
HARD agree on giving the 86 movie guys proper articulation. Maybe throw in a realized version of prototype Arcee?
Unrelated but I wonder how they would handle a Missing Link Iron Hide/Ratchet lmao
Maybe some gimmick heavy toys given better articulation?
I'm not even huge into this area of the genre but I feel like a lot of the Japanese exclusive g1 stuff would do well with missing link. Imagine a g1 star saber with updated articulation or even a God Ginrai!!! They could even do the headmaster Juniors. It give a lot of people chances to get stuff like that at affordable prices as well
To make them missing links, they would have to be more retooled, but not impossible. Redesigning old toys with technology we have now has come a long way, now that we have it.
Armada kid here:
You will be absorbed... accept your fate.
But seriously, speaking personally, I felt a huge sense of nostalgia upon picking up the Legacy Armada Starscream toy. I played with the original a lot as a kid, and honestly? The thing that got me was the transformation, felt like an advanced version of the original. Of course, therin lies the problem with Missing Link Micron Legend; a lot of what it does has been done with the Legacy updates. At this point, I'm good with my Legacy versions.
Which is probably for the best, because good luck getting the brand to acknowledge the Unicron Trilogy these days. Book comes out of the history of Transformers. G1, Beast Wars, Movies. Takara tells its story of the history of Transformers. G1, Beast Wars, Movies. Asking for a Missing Link Micron Legend is likely a tough sell to the companies, given the narrative they like to push. I feel like those Legacy figures are probably as good as we're gonna get.
Still waiting for my Retro Armada releases, Walmart. At this point, we're likelier to get Retro 2007 figures than Retro Armada...
I can’t wait to see what they come up with for D-01, since we all know that D-16 is Megatron.
On the subject of 86 cast bricks. Missing Link Ultra Magnus.
I mean they’d mainly just have to figure out how to articulate the armored form, cause isn’t G1 Magnus’s inner robot just retool of Optimus?
@@oliverhendrix8176 Yeah. But the trailer was a brick. aside from the shoulder and (I think) elbow joints, there was no articulation.
I wish to god we could get a Missling Link Armada Optimus.
I grew up with him as my first Optimus, and TBH, the Fans Hobby and Legacy version just don’t do it for me and for the longest time I couldn’t understand why. But then when Missing Link was revealed I realized what I really wanted was that same childhood figure down to the last detail but with modern articulation.
I feel like once you start getting out of G1 you start losing some of the novelty of Missing Link. The thing is, just due to the general jank of G1, the toys tended to look very different from the cartoon. And then, for decades after, future updates of those characters would strive to more closely resemble the animation models, and homaging the toy basically just boiled down to choosing the toy colors over the cartoon colors. So to go all in on toy-accuracy over animation accuracy, to physically remake the toy you remember playing with rather than the character you saw on TV, it felt like filling in a previously unexplored niche. But as you go later in the franchise, you start to see a more concerted effort at show accuracy/toy accuracy. You can put Missing Link Prime next to Earthrise Prime and see two totally different designs, but if you stick a hypothetical Missing Link Hot Shot next to Legacy Hot Shot they would just be two different takes on the same design.
If Takara did a missing link thunderclash and fixed the gold plastic syndrome I will fly to Japan and buy everyone involved a pint.
I still want that new Polar Claw, Hasbro.
I mean, some Armada figures getting Missing Link treatment is great. However, it'll be good to see more G1 figures. Also since this is Takara, not Hasbro it would be nice to see a G1 Megatron. Since Japan has different toy gun laws. But so many classic characters to choose from. Hopefully Ironhide and Ratchet will have heads, and of course we'll get seekers (Groans worldwide heard from collectors, Not more Seekers!). Armada Missing Link will be nice though. Good to see a better Hot Shot, Smokescreen ect.
I'm sure Missing Link will stick to G1 almost entirely, but it'd be nice to see Armada toys given more articulation given how gimmick-focused they were. But also... I kinda feel like Adamas Machina might be where Takara puts the non-G1 characters, even though its design philosophy is different.
I want a Missing Link Springer.
Missing link seekers should be next.
Dinobots would be great for missing link.
Okay I'd be down for G2 Megatron and Machine Wars Starscream as Missing Link figures. Clench as well. Armada Tidal Wave would also be great as I miss not having to partsform him if I didn't want to. And he's too big. He's not in scale for the video game anyway so just make him a bit smaller and use that to put a few finishing touches on the set like a back cavity cover. Maybe have made the Burning Megatron parts a full figure as well. Have the carrier parts come from somewhere other than the actual hands. But that's pretty the problem with every titan. They could all stand to be a bit smaller to reallocate the budget better and "fix" anything that needed more work in general.
Ultra Magnus, Galvatron, Sixshot, Shockwave, Star Saber, Dia Atlas, Deathsaurus, Star Convoy, Thunderclash, Pyro, Armada Scavenger, Energon Wing Saber, Overlord, Fangry, Horribull, Squeezeplay, Doubledealer, Devastator, Raiden, Landcross, Liokaiser and a few others. Many I loved the originals as a kid and others are ones I wished I had once I knew about them. Sure I have a bunch of these updated that aren't too different from the originals but they still might not be what I was looking for. I'd still rather fully updated figures but I do still have a soft spot for some G1 designs.
Mind-blown! Was actually listening to your pseudo-podcast while gazing around for potential ML revisits on active display... and exactly when my eyes hit G2 Megatron, you called out his name in all its glory! 😊🎉
Overload I'd say has a bigger chance than some non character figures, since he is an Optimus Prime combining Partner. If they did a Missing Link Armada Optimus Prime I could see them doing Jetfire and Overload. They don't seem to be doing that for the Legacy Evolution one but for one built on the nostalgia of the original, I could absolutely see them doing the combiner partners.
The question there is, how would they pull off the trailer without it coming off as the same thing as the Legacy Evolution Commander?
I can see a very small amount of G2 Transformers being given the treatment.
Beast Wars would also make sense for Missing Link. Especially taking the 10th anniversary version of Dinobot and going with a different type of brown plastic.
Hey, how about remaking figures that have issues with GPS today? Pyro comes to mind, that boy deserves another go around. That said... Scorponok. With articulation up the wazoo and a proper head as an option.
One possibility that wouldn't be as flashy as better articulation but would definitely expand the possibilites and sell to collectors: GPS victims with better plastic. I mean, engineering also includes choice of materials.
On another note, I think Missing Link as a concept only really works for G1: the very first generation brought to modern standards. However, if we later rebranded it (something as Upgrade or Reformat, for example), THEN I think we could focus not only on Armada, but any fan-favorite character and/or mold.
If that’s what missing link is based off … that’s odd. Granted missing link is primarily Japan apparently.
It's not. He's wrong. It's meant to represent the evolutionary missing link between G1 and newer more articulated toys like G2 and Beast Wars, hence the name. The only reason Takara reset the numbering is so they could start from scratch, rather than jumping around the numbering to match the 80s toys numbering system and confusing buyers.
Knowing you, TJ, I'm utterly shocked you didn't propose a Missing Link Energon Wingsaber in this video.
if they did Missing Link G2 Megatron I would just die
I will be happy o so happy when the Missing Link line gets to the Headmasters and to the very one who is the icon I use here on UA-cam.
I want a Missing Link Armada Scavenger with actual separate legs instead of them being connected to the sheep foot roller that was part of his bulldozer alt-mode.
Funny thing is Hasbro and Takara aren't the only ones doing it. Mattel's been doing it with He-Man for a few years now. Also Playmates has recently done the same thing with the original Turtles toys. Just picked up their Leo and he's nice.
MotU Origins is absolutely fantastic line that combines nostalgia with modern articulation.
MOTU Origins is fantastic. Playmates' new TMNT remakes...not so much.
Weird golf ball textured skin, Leo and Don's head sculpts swapped around for no reason, inaccurate shades of light green and dark brown used for Raph and Don's skin, and terribly dated joints for the shoulders and hips, with visible pins that would look bad on a mid-2000s era action figure, let alone ones from 2024.
The line has potential, but there's a lot of issues that need fixing.
@@Rocket1377 Good to know. Haven't picked up the other three yet to do those kinds of comparisons, but my Leo is pretty solid for what he is. I will say it's not MOTU Origins level, but not bad compared to original TMNT.
And we should give them time to tweak things. Origins is on its 3rd or 4th year of releases, so they've had time to adjust some. I'll bet Playmates probably has ideas for wave 2 and beyond.
I think G1 honestly has enough candidates to see the line through for a while. I know my brother *isn't* interested in any modified version of the original toys - he's only interested in the original, poorly-articulated ones - so I'm not sure how big the market really is, but with Prowl, Bluestreak, Smokescreen, Grapple, Inferno, Trailbreaker, Hound, Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Starscream, Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, the Constructicons, Kup, Hot Rod, Blur, Galvatron, Ultra Magnus... and G2 Megatron (if you want a counterpart to Optjmus), that's going to take a while to release.
I want ApeFace
I very much agree that Armada’s a good choice for Missing Link given how it’s toys were more or less ported over into animation rather than the other way around in the toy lines before it, though I wouldn’t oppose a few Energon figures getting the same treatment (looking at you, Wing Saber!).
It would probably never happen, but a Missing Link Fortress Maximus would invalidate the Titans Return one so completely it’s INSANE.
Missing Link Armada would be my absolute dream come true, I would give Hasbro so much money for just the original Armada toys with more articulation, as well as articulated Minicons! Hasbro is too eager to reinvent the wheel all the time which was a detriment to Hotshot, especially.
Even Wheeljack, which I'm not *unhappy* with has sacrifices made to use an existing mold that differs from the original Armada figure.They could make a boatloads of sales doing that.
Rodimus is a great call. Give him the knees we all thought he had! They'll probably get to Hot Rod sooner though, right? For my part, Chromedome was the one that I wished could do more.
If not that chocolatté champ, then how about Cloudburst? Hahahano but really.
I thought this video was gonna be non G1 characters as G1 toys. Windblade and Bulkhead as examples
Personally Tj, I think a missing link armada Optimus prime supermode, jetfire, and overload that combine would be a home run for me. As well as god ginrai, g1 star saber, overlord, diatlas with big powered, black zarak, and star convoy with grandus and sky Gary are top priority on my list. Also I want all them to retain base modes.
missing link could do the entire animated line and also call it masterpiece (sonce the designs were made with the toys designers working alongside)
i think it would be cool to do articulated versions of prime/DotM cyberverse stuff. fun little toys, but with knees & elbows now
I think the entire Unicron Trilogy would be the most likely outside of G1 to get the missing link treatment. A lot of figures from that era did not get decent articulation because of hindering gimmicks.
Beast Wars is also another series where I think missing link could work. The articulation was really good for the time but there were things the original toys could not do that I always wished they could. Legacy Silverbolt is a good example of that but there is something that feels off about him. Like I love his improved articulation but they changed some things about the original toys that didn't really need the update. Just give me something that looks like original figure but has the articulated wings of the Legacy figure.
Also while a lot of Beast Wars toys had articulation in robot mode ironically their beast modes couldn't move at all some times. If they can some how add articulation in beast mode there's your missing link.
Takara Tomy could make Missing Link toys for G1 characters who never had toys, like Arcee or Devcon. Why not take it a step further and make a G1 Volcanicus using the existing Dinobot toys?
Missing link will become the new Encore but much more expensive and with slightly better quality
I would like to see the return of some of the better gimmicks and idea, along with new characters, with updated designs of classic characters. That would bring in the kids as well as us old fogeys. Transformers Classics was a good example of that. It kept the classic characters fresh but something today's kids might find interesting. Then have a separate line for collectors if they want the old characters.
But while the Combiner gimmick comes and goes, bringing back and refining Mini-Cons or the various X-Masters (Head/Target/even Power) with new takes on those old ideas would be really cool. That's what I like about Energon. It took the Mini-Cons and Combiners and tried to find new things to do with the combination/Powerlink idea. I'd also like to see the return of organic animals alongside the mechanical stuff, maybe the Mini-Cons actually become smart tools, or be real daring and find a way to make the Pretender shell idea work. All this while still coming up with new gimmicks and play patterns to really push transformation and general toy engineering. I love nods to my childhood, especially positive ones, but while the seeds of the future may be buried in the past, to coin a phrase, the future still requires growth and change. If any toyline should understand that, it would be Transformers.
Imagine Missing Link Fortress Maximus though
Sure, it will most likely *never-ever* happen, but think about it:
The gimmicks of an original G1 Citybot and the level of articulation we are getting today
How cool is that?
Hear me out:
Missing Link Energon Wing Saber.
If any toy needed articulation added, that would be at least high on the list.
I have both versions of prime. I saw the price for bumblebee and cliffjumper and it's absolutely ridiculous for what you're getting. I think prime was too much but I was feeling the nostalgia for him.
I would buy a Missing Link Blitzwing in a heartbeat. 🙏🙏🙏
One big thing you missed about Missing Link g2, the possibility of articulated Gobots.
Also, I still wanna see how Missing link would handle a pretender or micromaster.
I don’t think the Gobots probably will happen given that could end up being a legal headache for Hasbro, plus Takara is the one making them and I don’t think Takara cares that much about Gobots.
@@oliverhendrix8176 wrong gobots, but i understand the confusion. i'm referring to the G2 Gobots. the roughly hotwheels/matchbox sized transformers that were later used to make the Spychangers in RID2001.
@@walterlopez5054 Yeah I know the ones you’re referring to now. Those ones are probably just a case of if they decide to do EuroG1 and G2.
I would love a missing link G2 megs. I will put the money down for the pre-order when and if it happens.
I am down for anything that gets me an articulated Machine Wars Starscream
G2Armada would be sweet and hasbro is aware that theres now nostalgia for it since its been 20 years since it came out, im in my mid 20s and i generate my own money which im using to buy the new UT toys lel, plus just like how 86 compliments mainline g1 figures, missing link could compliment those missing toys mainly cant do
I’d like to see the UT characters you mentioned done in spark.
I want rescue bots missing Link
Technically still G1, but the talk about the movie toys got me thinking, why stop with existing figures? Do some of those famous scrapped prototypes as Missing Link. G1 Arcee and especially G1 Unicron would sell like hotcakes.
missing link g2 green and purple tank megs is the only one I would buy maybe pretenders
g2 megatron is not takara. thats the issue . but maybe we got laser optimus. missinlink is not for the us market yet. that way we got the plastic g1 optimus from legacy instead
One character from transformers cybertron that deserves a missing link is deluxe scattershot and wingsaber and another machine wars character who deserves the missing link treatment is sound wave but armada needs missing link treatment too sideways sideswipe megatron the supreme class Optimus and overload would be awesome so would smokescreen and demolishor and cyclonus and hot shot would be awesome but the one toy from the 2000s who needs a new toy would be energon hotshot
Can I have Missing Link Galaxy Force Master Megatron and Galaxy Convoy, please?
Other than G1, the only obvious answer is Armada, which had terrible articulation, worse than Beast Wars, in order to have all their gimmicks... and you had that at the end of the video lol
Hey you wouldn't happen to know anyone that can build me a set of robots from a TV show called the great dangaioh not the first one but the second dangaioh.. do know anyone can build them for me
My issue with creating Missing Links for the real bricks like Blur is that if it keeps the idea of maintaining the appearance of the original figure, then you'd just end up with a more articulated figure that still looks like a brick, and looks very little like its animated version. For a moment, I thought about a Missing Link Ironhide and Ratchet, before coming to a similar conclusion. These are characters that need something beyond Missing Link.
If you want toys that look like the cartoon, you're better off sticking with Studio Series 86 and Legacy. That's not what Missing Link is. It's intended to take the original Takara/Hasbro toys that many of us had as children and upgrade their articulation. Period. They are supposed to look like their vintage toy box artwork, not their animated counterparts.
@@Rocket1377 That's my point. A Missing Link Blur would have more articulation, but its still going to look like a knock-off of a Duplo figure.
No, they can't.
Ok, mostly pisstake, but missing link rescue bots. That series debuted 2011 so over a decade. The toys were made for babies and toddlers now those babies and toddlers are into their teens and might like a better version of their first transformer toy.
Also hasbro/takara seems to have forgot the longevity of the franchise depends on making new fans. They need to devote a lot, A LOT more budget into quality stuff for the younger crowd. Rather than re-releasing that same shitty cyberverse starscream over and over.
There is no point to missing link.