Centerbeam cars apparently derail very easily. I have seen several of these cars derail over the years. Hopefully no damage to the bridge over the messed up rail
The sheer mass and inertia of such a convoy just baffles me, the cars were piling up on top of one another and even pushing into the bridge and it kept moving! Very impressive
Actually it stopped rather quickly and didn’t make much mess. Surprised me but decent outcome. The center beams acted as a crumple for the tanks with only 2 coming off but still upright and the train in front still intact. Minimal damage to anything else so once they remove the center beams everything else can be rerailed and move back on easily.
Even better when you run at 1/4 speed and watch when the train hits the bridge and slows down because of the centerbeam framework, but you see the oil car behind it smash the back end to make up for it.. Such an intense crash
That's probably why it derailed. The train was probably coasting around the corner, and the heavier cars in the rear had enough momentum to squeeze the empty cars off the track.
Those empty centerbeam flatcars were suppose to be at the very back of the train, not in the middle. Cars that are lightweight or empty always go at the rear.
I was casually watching live when this happened on the main cam. Heard the intense noise that nearly destroyed my speakers and my eardrum. Jumped over to the top cam and replayed it. Wow, what craziness! Glad no one was injured and cleanup is moving at a steady pace. IMHO, placing empty cars between loads on a downhill grade on a curve is a recipe for disaster.
If I understand it correctly... I think the derailment happened when a train is braking way too much while still going around this bend. Those red and yellow centerbeams didn't have any payloads on it and were considered the lightest cars going around this bend. They were getting compressed between the train's braking and the kinetic energy from all the cars behind it, so they buckled off the rail.
@@VincentNacon cheesh! me, I'm no good at library searches, but my hazy recollection after my comment was in fact its clean-up and not any derailment itself...it took days to clear the ROWs of enclosed auto stack trailers, then rerailing and retamping, etc.
Live and in person, I've seen derailed cars after the dust settled. I've seen videos of a just a few. This one, while intense, will probably have a fortunate outcome in that those chemical/oil tankers don't appear to have ruptured. A bit of good luck in a bad situation. I'm sure the bridge owner will have to do a complete engineering inspection before traffic restarts. It's amazing just how much stored/kinetic energy those rail cars have.
The skidsteer operator is the most nope moment of 2022. Just u turns that thing in style and heads off the other way without skipping a beat. We salute you Mr. We're going to need a bigger hammer guy!
That was crazy to watch, to put it mildly. What was just as interesting to watch was the amazing (if tedious) process of putting things back to rights overnight. Lots of people, and more than a little specialized heavy equipment untangling mangled steel and wayward trucks and axles. Can't say I envied them, but mucho respect.
@@itsnotme07 That is completely irrelevant. The danger is in the area we can see as that is where the derailment occurred and there were no people anywhere nearby.
@@TestECull we don't know what.might be in those two tank cars behind the centerbeams. They look like they went off the rails too. Flammable or toxic loads could be an issue.
It's about to become even more dangerous as Big Orange have just enacted an extremely draconian attendance policy known as the "Hi-Viz" policy. The unions tried to strike, that got struck down and they're now complaining to the federal government.
@@electric7487 I'm not a railroader, just a fan of trains since I was a kid with a huge HO scale layout. But your reference to "Hi-Viz" got me interested and I did some digging. The article in RAILWAY AGE was eye-opening. I had no idea the life of a trainman was as bad as that. The sacrifices they endure are ridiculous. I think you are right. If BNSF implements that attendance system, more trainmen are being forced to work when they are exhausted or ill and it will lead to further accidents. All in the name of profits for a very select few.
AZ8theist I do not think they have changed the FRA’s hours of service law. They require rest days after so many consecutive days of work. Before I retired and the new hours of service laws went into affect, we only had to have 8 hours off duty unless we worked the max crew day of 12 hours on duty. Then we had to have 10 hours off duty. That meant that unless we worker the 12 hours we could be back on duty 8 hours after going off duty. In that 8 hours we had to get home,, take a shower, get something to eat, and a few hours of sleep. Then at the 6 hours off duty mark the phone could ring and you could be called to be back on duty at the 8 hour mark. So with all that you may get around 4 hours of sleep. If we worked the full 12 hours we got 2 more hours off duty. I had months when I had gone on duty ( starts) more times than there were days in the month. I can remember times when I had 35 to 37 starts in a month.
No "tanker" here fellers. The ones with round bottoms, sides, tops and ends are called "tank cars" on the railroad. Nomenclature is important - separates the speakers and writers into recognizable groups.
Real lucky those center beams took most of the force and not the tank cars behind it, could have easily been much worse. I'm guessing the top is going to be out for a while needing to be inspected at least.
Jeez. Just goes to show you how much energy trains have behind them once they get rolling. This one wasn't even moving very fast at all, and however many cars were left after the knuckle broke, still had enough energy left in them to push those first couple around, and then go full can opener on that centerbeam against the bridge. This video is an excellent physics lesson.
0:26 Not gonna lie, this accident was definitely crazy, especially with the centerbeam being crushed to pieces. (Pls excuse the comment edit. It didn’t make much sense, considering the crew was ok)
@@catslivesmatter1268 Actually, I was referring to the crew on this train. But yes, anything bad can happen when it comes to railroading, and this unfortunately was one of those examples
This is exactly why I stay way far back from moving freight trains at RR crossings. It doesn't take much and before you could put the car in reverse you could have RR cars laying on top of your vehicle. Always, for safety's sake stay several car lengths back from a moving freight train. It can derail in a blink of an eye. John in Ohio
Yup When I was a kid there was a derailment on the B&M Stoney Brook line in Forge Village and the dad of a classmate was parked at the crossing and rail cars landed all around him. It took hours to get him out and a week to get his car out. Both he and the car were OK but he had PTSD for some time after that event.
That overpass will need to be inspected and repaired. It's not safe now because that support beam is damaged. That must have been Sergeant Schultz in the Bobcat.
@@debikawaii They could have used those skills at the Eastern Front had Klink, Burkhalter, and Hochstetter et. al not been duped into keeping him at Stalag 13 by Hogan and the gang.
@@spikespa5208 that couldve been the end of the bridge. and lets be glad only the light centerbeams hit it, that coal train couldve went down with the bridge, and couldve made this Way uglier.
A couple of things occur to me in addition to what's already been said: - props to the bridge designer/builder. - I hope VR is able to get some money by licensing this video to news orgs - This is probably one of the greatest videos ever seen on YT, from the suspenseful beginning to the awful middle and the hilarious end, all in a minute and a half.
This is Fox KC 4 reporting live from the Santa Fe Junction. A serious train derailment going on and we have interview the Virtual Railfan that caught it on camera. He said I just keep the tape running for 24 hr watching for trains.
Strange to see how that derailment started. Was there a DPU pushing because the first centrebeam derailed to the outside of the curve which i would not expect unless the train was slowing up which it did not seem to be, or was being pushed.
I'm fairly certain the big boom/thud sound at the beginning was the train going into emergency and/or braking. The cars then begin compressing together from the front to the rear like a slinky going from being extended to not extended from the slack in each connection. I'm gonna guess that the cars behind the centerbeams were much heavier in some way and when the centerbeams got caught up to the compression and couldn't compress anymore, the squeezing of the centerbeams from the back against the cars in front lifted them up and being on a curve pushed them off the track. The force definitely came from the rear end of the consist. I think something similar to this happened on horseshoe curve a while back. Not fully sure.
There is a fairly steep grade that the train was coming down before entering the curve. My guess is loads behind the empties are what caused the derailment. The big boom before the derailment could have been a coupler breaking. It appeared just towards the last that the train started speeding up. Maybe the engineer applied brakes to slow down and that's what pushed the cars off the tracks. Who knows. The FRA should issue a statement once the investigation is complete.
There was a derailment on the upper rail bridge about a year ago or so. There's a lot of inertia that's beind the centerbeam car to make it crush like a plastic toy train. If a tanker or box car hit that bridge support, it may raise questions about the upper rail deck's integrety. It's be checked anyway - can't assume there's no damage.
If you look at the first centerbeam, it looks as if it's pressed up against the back of that hopper. It's possible that the coupler snapped and the car pushed forward as the train slowed, most likely from dynamic breaking. Then the force of the loaded cars behind them, combined with the curve, pushed the centerbeams off the track.
@@trainspotter454 They didn't just "tip", rear end forces started to push them off the tracks, they started tipping from the rear end force and eventually left the rails. Either too much power from the DPU(s) or too much braking force on the head end and the weight of the train behind them forced them off the tracks.
Wow! That was very dramatic. As soon as one centerbeam was down, the other two decided they also liked the idea of derailing! And then they crushed themselves!
Indeed. This is precisely why you should never get in front of a train. The fact that there was so much momentum that it basically accordioned that rail car shows how heavy they are.
Reminds me of someone house that has a cam pointed at a grade crossing. The owner gave the RR a link to it since some photographers like to take pictures of people on the tracks, which is very dangerous.
Seeing that just made saw "Wow" 1000x in my head. The way how the bogies and the car is just up like that, makes me feel weird inside. Hopefully everyone is okay!
@@sirisaaccowbelly1114 I doubt that caused it , if it was string lining the cars would have been pulled off of the track on the other side, this looks like a pusher loco was pushin too hard, and the center beams were just light enough to jump the track.
It never ceases to amaze me the strength of a train bridge..the train cars crumpling under the momentum of the other cars and the bridge never seems to notice.
Wow...the way those tank cars crunched up that lumber car into the underside of that bridge was something remarkable in of itself. The bobcat driver at the end was hilarious too.
PTC put the train into emergency. With the heavier loaded tank cars shoving the empty weight of the centerbeams, on a curve like that throws off the center of gravity and basically just ran them off the rails. And they had so much momentum there was no chance a single beam was gonna stop 3+ loaded tankers against that bridge
@@northtexasrailfanproductio1133 Train didn't go into emergency until the second centerbeam was completely derailed and pulled apart from the first centerbeam. You can clearly hear the brake pipe vent to atmosphere at 0:29.
You have three empty lightweight lumber cars with heavy cars in front of them and heavy tanker cars behind them moving on a sharp curve. The three lumber cars just didn't have enough weight on them to counter the weight pushing on them from behind to hold the rail. I just wonder if there was a locomotive behind them pushing off camera? But either way, It's pretty easy to tell that a force was pushing on them from behind just enough to get the lumber car to lift off the rail and tip over. Oh well. It gives the clean up crews something to do now.
well, centerbeams tend to be rather top-heavy when unloaded. Train was going a little fast around that curve but it sounded like one of those cars left the track even before they came into view.
They were pushed off the tracks from excessive braking force on the head end, basically a reverse stringlining. Empty centerbeams are a usual suspect in derailments.
Looks like something was 'pushing' a little too hard from the rear.....wheels of the gray covered were off the track....then the rest. A mess made worse by the weather
Anyone else thought that looked like something out of a movie!? That was seriously intense. I totally thought those thanked cars were gonna derail and that would be a huge problem. I might go up there to see how everything is in the morning if they’re still cleaning up
Those are some awesome tinfoil centre beams! Or I should say it is pretty impressive how easily that one was crushed by the weight behind it as if the steel was merely aluminium foil.
I can cleary hear a banging noise at the begining of the video and i bet that was slack from the cars.The locomotives slowed down(or even put dynamic brakes on) causing a compression situation that pushed the centerbeams off the track.They didnt flip,they literally got crushed between heavier cars.
0:34 Oh hey it missed hitting the bridge trestle by only a few feet! 0:39 Nevermind... Really impressive how that centerbeam was dangling from the bridge like that. Getting that down from there safely must have been interesting.
My man in the skid steer clearing snow didn’t even miss a beat. He’s like “not my job, bro”, and keeps right on going. 😂😂
And drifting too!
Hahaha that man said NOPE!!!! While doing the 180 to start moving snow the other way!
He was probably listening to Metallica and didn't hear a thing. Lol
You just won the lnternet comment of the day!
@Eshin Gansho good thought!!
Nobody gonna talk about that sick drift from the bobcat driver lol
That's what I was thinking lol
He had no Fs to give
@@justinstrickland5382 not after watching that derailment first hand
I saw that
He's outta there! His little 'ol toy just be in the way.
Love the skid steer driver. Spinning around like he didn't see anything and not his problem!
He probably didn't
It is not his problem
He's the one who put the penny on the rail 5 minutes prior. He enjoyed it.
"not my clowns, not my circus"!!!
Was IST denn DEINE Idee, was er TUN SOLLTE ?
Personenchaden gbs ja wohl nicht ....
That is one of the most intense derailments I’ve ever seen involving centerbeams
What Centerbeam 😆
Centerbeam cars apparently derail very easily. I have seen several of these cars derail over the years. Hopefully no damage to the bridge over the messed up rail
@@leshemingway3352, there was a few derailments on the Horseshoe curve because of centerbeams if I’m correct
It's because they're in the middle of the train empty. Should be at the end
Lol
I watched this 4 or 5 times. It is a slow crash, so you can see lots of details. Inertia makes that crash look amazing. Thank you for sharing 🏆
Just 4 or 5? That’s it??? 😂🤣
@@VirtualRailfan I watched it 6 times .
@@VirtualRailfan Haven't watched it as much as "Gangnam Style", but I'm working on it....😎
14 times
@@NorthWARail dang it , I was hoping to win a prize now you got me in second place !
The sheer mass and inertia of such a convoy just baffles me, the cars were piling up on top of one another and even pushing into the bridge and it kept moving! Very impressive
Inertia is what the stopped stuff had.MOMENTUM is what the moving mass had.
Actually it stopped rather quickly and didn’t make much mess. Surprised me but decent outcome. The center beams acted as a crumple for the tanks with only 2 coming off but still upright and the train in front still intact. Minimal damage to anything else so once they remove the center beams everything else can be rerailed and move back on easily.
Even better when you run at 1/4 speed and watch when the train hits the bridge and slows down because of the centerbeam framework, but you see the oil car behind it smash the back end to make up for it.. Such an intense crash
Luckily they were empty, but that centerbeam flatcar got crushed up real good
write it off lol
That's probably why it derailed. The train was probably coasting around the corner, and the heavier cars in the rear had enough momentum to squeeze the empty cars off the track.
@@pseudotasuki close, but no cigarre..
Those empty centerbeam flatcars were suppose to be at the very back of the train, not in the middle. Cars that are lightweight or empty always go at the rear.
@@GpunktHartman Rather than just say he is wrong, you might want to explain why he is wrong.
I was casually watching live when this happened on the main cam. Heard the intense noise that nearly destroyed my speakers and my eardrum. Jumped over to the top cam and replayed it. Wow, what craziness! Glad no one was injured and cleanup is moving at a steady pace. IMHO, placing empty cars between loads on a downhill grade on a curve is a recipe for disaster.
What did the char look like
Chat
That's what I was thinking
Maybe the engineer took the curve to fast?
Quite right......empty cars = top heaviness = high centre of gravity = curve derailment!
If I understand it correctly... I think the derailment happened when a train is braking way too much while still going around this bend. Those red and yellow centerbeams didn't have any payloads on it and were considered the lightest cars going around this bend. They were getting compressed between the train's braking and the kinetic energy from all the cars behind it, so they buckled off the rail.
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation.
this is the 2nd derailment I've come across videographed around that junction there...!
@@trainrover I'm curious enough to see those video, got the link?
@@VincentNacon cheesh! me, I'm no good at library searches, but my hazy recollection after my comment was in fact its clean-up and not any derailment itself...it took days to clear the ROWs of enclosed auto stack trailers, then rerailing and retamping, etc.
I think this was a version of "string theory" was is normally pulling around a curve
It was fascinating to watch that centerbeam just fold back on itself.
As it absorbed the momentum of the slowing cars one member at a time. Glad the tankers didn't get punctured.
The centerbeam progressively collapsing like a crash barrier probably saved that trestle from more serious damage.
As soon as I saw the centerbeams come into view, I knew where the derailment was going to happen…
That was incredible! As is the, “not my job not my problem” plow driver. Lol.
LOL! I thought the same thing.
TBH what’s he going to do with his skid steer? He was hired to plow so he’s gonna do his job. I like the drifting in the turn tho. That was pro.
That guy is my hero
@@hrothgar014 idk man, I don’t care what I’m doing or where- working, not working, whatever- I’m probably going to stop and watch a train derail lol
Live and in person, I've seen derailed cars after the dust settled. I've seen videos of a just a few. This one, while intense, will probably have a fortunate outcome in that those chemical/oil tankers don't appear to have ruptured. A bit of good luck in a bad situation. I'm sure the bridge owner will have to do a complete engineering inspection before traffic restarts.
It's amazing just how much stored/kinetic energy those rail cars have.
I didn't see any HAZMAT placards on those tanks, they might be loaded with something like corn syrup.
I mean. Still wouldn’t want that to rupture. The number of ants that would attract…. Would be problematic in itself.
@@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356 Ants? In winter?
Or the tankers was emty
@@TNS17 Sure... Winter ants! 😄
The skidsteer operator is the most nope moment of 2022. Just u turns that thing in style and heads off the other way without skipping a beat. We salute you Mr. We're going to need a bigger hammer guy!
Love the Skidloader Guy = HE don't miss a Beat = Bucket down And right back to clearing Snow...
That was crazy to watch, to put it mildly. What was just as interesting to watch was the amazing (if tedious) process of putting things back to rights overnight. Lots of people, and more than a little specialized heavy equipment untangling mangled steel and wayward trucks and axles. Can't say I envied them, but mucho respect.
The FORCE behind that derailment is just WOW! Hope no one was hurt...and hopefully no broken container cars.
why would someone be hurt when there's nobody anywhere near it?!
Definitely a broken center beam car.
@@TestECull Trains are usually pretty long...not just the few cars you saw there.
@@itsnotme07 That is completely irrelevant. The danger is in the area we can see as that is where the derailment occurred and there were no people anywhere nearby.
@@TestECull we don't know what.might be in those two tank cars behind the centerbeams. They look like they went off the rails too. Flammable or toxic loads could be an issue.
That was impressive to say the least. Glad there were no injuries/fatalities. A reminder how dangerous railroading can be.
It's about to become even more dangerous as Big Orange have just enacted an extremely draconian attendance policy known as the "Hi-Viz" policy. The unions tried to strike, that got struck down and they're now complaining to the federal government.
@@electric7487 I'm not a railroader, just a fan of trains since I was a kid with a huge HO scale layout. But your reference to "Hi-Viz" got me interested and I did some digging. The article in RAILWAY AGE was eye-opening. I had no idea the life of a trainman was as bad as that. The sacrifices they endure are ridiculous. I think you are right. If BNSF implements that attendance system, more trainmen are being forced to work when they are exhausted or ill and it will lead to further accidents. All in the name of profits for a very select few.
@AZ8theist The Globalist American Empire Way.
@@Enjoyer.762 Yup!
AZ8theist I do not think they have changed the FRA’s hours of service law. They require rest days after so many consecutive days of work.
Before I retired and the new hours of service laws went into affect, we only had to have 8 hours off duty unless we worked the max crew day of 12 hours on duty. Then we had to have 10 hours off duty.
That meant that unless we worker the 12 hours we could be back on duty 8 hours after going off duty. In that 8 hours we had to get home,, take a shower, get something to eat, and a few hours of sleep. Then at the 6 hours off duty mark the phone could ring and you could be called to be back on duty at the 8 hour mark. So with all that you may get around 4 hours of sleep. If we worked the full 12 hours we got 2 more hours off duty. I had months when I had gone on duty ( starts) more times than there were days in the month. I can remember times when I had 35 to 37 starts in a month.
I love the bobcat driver that’s like, this is none of my business
Holy cow, when I saw the tanker cars coming I was screaming "no, No, NO!" As always virtual railfan does not disappoint
Tell me about it. I'm thinking to myself, "If those tankers have compressed gasses and they get ruptured we're in big trouble..."
We had chlorine tankers derailment in the past, that was scary
No "tanker" here fellers. The ones with round bottoms, sides, tops and ends are called "tank cars" on the railroad. Nomenclature is important - separates the speakers and writers into recognizable groups.
Anyone with eyes can see they aren't placarded, therefore they aren't hazardous. Not everything we haul in tank cars is hazardous.
@@cody8217 gotcha
Real lucky those center beams took most of the force and not the tank cars behind it, could have easily been much worse.
I'm guessing the top is going to be out for a while needing to be inspected at least.
How that support column for the bridge stayed intact is amazing.
It's probably designed strong enough to support two or three 200 ton locomotives going over it.
Built with quality USA steel by Real Americans. When things were done properly.
Those center beam flat cars are weak and pliable compared to the bridge. The stronger, thicker, material will beat weaker every time.
It definitely supported the UP 4014 steam engine and tender a couple months or so back, the car that got crushed against the bottom was far lighter.
A railroad worker said the support with fresher rust was hit in a derailment
Skid Steer Guy: "Meh, if you've seen one derailment, you've seen 'em all"
💯
I was so shocked how the center beam flat got torn up from banging into the bridge.
Ya that got crushed.
Some strong bridges there
Dam that’s insane! Hopefully it can be cleaned up quickly
The one last year on the upper level got cleaned up within days
@@kdpowers yes
Almost Done lol
I can't tell you how many times empty centerbeams wreaked such havoc on my layout...
Bobcat driver says "hmm" and goes about his business.
Bobcat snowplow operator had a front-row seat for sure!
That’s wild!
It’s always those centerbeam flatcars causing trouble
Looked to me like the hopper in front of the centerbeam leaned and pulled the centerbeam along with it. Too light, too fast, too bad.
Only when they are empty and in the center of the train...
That train was going faster than any train I've seen go around that curve. Most trains crawl thru all these tracks at ground level..
I was thinking the exact same thing. Engineer was taking the curve too quickly.
definitely... i've had this live cam on while I work from home for months and have never seen one take the corner that fast
@@MrHappyspleen they have PTC, over speed is a thing of the past, it's not even possible anymore
Jeez. Just goes to show you how much energy trains have behind them once they get rolling. This one wasn't even moving very fast at all, and however many cars were left after the knuckle broke, still had enough energy left in them to push those first couple around, and then go full can opener on that centerbeam against the bridge. This video is an excellent physics lesson.
This really shows the power and weight behind those trains. Crushing that car like a tin can.
0:26 Not gonna lie, this accident was definitely crazy, especially with the centerbeam being crushed to pieces.
(Pls excuse the comment edit. It didn’t make much sense, considering the crew was ok)
It wasn't a passenger train and nobody was on the grounds near it but it goes to show you that anything can happen in a moment
@@catslivesmatter1268
Actually, I was referring to the crew on this train. But yes, anything bad can happen when it comes to railroading, and this unfortunately was one of those examples
Why do y’all keep saying that? Who could possibly be hurt?
@@Milwaukeeroadfan they were a long way ahead of this mess.
@@tommyhunter1817
I didn't actually think anyone was hurt. I just didn't know for certain at first 🤨
Holy cow!!! That was crazy. I can’t believe you got that on film! 😯
This is exactly why I stay way far back from moving freight trains at RR crossings. It doesn't take much and before you could put the car in reverse you could have RR cars laying on top of your vehicle. Always, for safety's sake stay several car lengths back from a moving freight train. It can derail in a blink of an eye. John in Ohio
Also when railfanning!
Yup When I was a kid there was a derailment on the B&M Stoney Brook line in Forge Village and the dad of a classmate was parked at the crossing and rail cars landed all around him. It took hours to get him out and a week to get his car out. Both he and the car were OK but he had PTSD for some time after that event.
Great point
...and when the train is moving at highest speed (gulp). (BTW, that's why I love VR - completely safe railfanning. ">)
@@ATamandua me too :)
That overpass will need to be inspected and repaired. It's not safe now because that support beam is damaged.
That must have been Sergeant Schultz in the Bobcat.
He sees nothing, he knows nothing, he hears nothing!
It was Homer Simpson as Mr. Plow! LOL
Who knew Schultz had mad drifting skills tho? 😆
@@dexterdog62 I think you forgot something..... "He sees nothing, he knows nothing, he hears nothing, he wasn't even there!"
@@debikawaii They could have used those skills at the Eastern Front had Klink, Burkhalter, and Hochstetter et. al not been duped into keeping him at Stalag 13 by Hogan and the gang.
You’re kidding….. that’s one of the most intense derailments I’ve ever seen on camera!
Then you should of seen the ones that happened on horseshoe curve a few years ago. Now that was intense!
Me too! i heard this from the camera happen live.
might have been a dpu not in the picture the cleanup video might show it
At least this one didn't happen *on* the bridge.
@@spikespa5208 that couldve been the end of the bridge. and lets be glad only the light centerbeams hit it, that coal train couldve went down with the bridge, and couldve made this Way uglier.
I will always regret not seeing the chat's reaction when things like this happen.
yea same i feel so bad not seeing that
FOMO 🤢🤮
That bridge is sturdy, considering its age!
Here in Tempe Arizona, a few years ago a derailment took out a whole section of old bridge.
A couple of things occur to me in addition to what's already been said:
- props to the bridge designer/builder.
- I hope VR is able to get some money by licensing this video to news orgs
- This is probably one of the greatest videos ever seen on YT, from the suspenseful beginning to the awful middle and the hilarious end, all in a minute and a half.
The railroad and the NTSB will also want this footage, I'm sure! What amazing luck to capture it!
This is Fox KC 4 reporting live from the Santa Fe Junction. A serious train derailment going on and we have interview the Virtual Railfan that caught it on camera. He said I just keep the tape running for 24 hr watching for trains.
And the guy clearing snow with the bobcat just goes about his day.
Strange to see how that derailment started. Was there a DPU pushing because the first centrebeam derailed to the outside of the curve which i would not expect unless the train was slowing up which it did not seem to be, or was being pushed.
I'm fairly certain the big boom/thud sound at the beginning was the train going into emergency and/or braking. The cars then begin compressing together from the front to the rear like a slinky going from being extended to not extended from the slack in each connection. I'm gonna guess that the cars behind the centerbeams were much heavier in some way and when the centerbeams got caught up to the compression and couldn't compress anymore, the squeezing of the centerbeams from the back against the cars in front lifted them up and being on a curve pushed them off the track. The force definitely came from the rear end of the consist. I think something similar to this happened on horseshoe curve a while back. Not fully sure.
No DPU at rear of train.
There is a fairly steep grade that the train was coming down before entering the curve. My guess is loads behind the empties are what caused the derailment. The big boom before the derailment could have been a coupler breaking. It appeared just towards the last that the train started speeding up. Maybe the engineer applied brakes to slow down and that's what pushed the cars off the tracks. Who knows. The FRA should issue a statement once the investigation is complete.
@@TheMidgardViking if the slack was bunched up, it is very unlikely a drawhead would have broken.
Yes, it's not like an unladen centerbeam stringlined. Just the opposite.
Man, if only PTC was alive and well😆
I love how the guy in the Bobcat just goes about his business 😆
Yeah, the guy in the bobcat was probably like, I see nothing, I no nothing.
@@BradRains or thought
"that's WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAY above my pay grade.....!"
@@BradRains he knows snitches get stitches
@@Automcanic so do trolls..............
He knows President Brandon is a bigger train wreck than this. This doesn't phase him.
What a catch! This is probably the craziest thing caught on film yet on your channel!
Wow, that was some derailment! Thanks for the video!
Reminds me of watching NASCAR at Daytona when the "big one" occurs! You never want to see cars - or center beams go airborne!!!
There was a derailment on the upper rail bridge about a year ago or so. There's a lot of inertia that's beind the centerbeam car to make it crush like a plastic toy train. If a tanker or box car hit that bridge support, it may raise questions about the upper rail deck's integrety. It's be checked anyway - can't assume there's no damage.
Thank you virtual railfan for showing the train derailments live on camera and I love trains forever and ever.
We’re they rolling to fast in the curve and momentum brought the light center beams over?
Gotta love the snow clearing dude "Not My Job"
I really hope no one was hurt in the intense derailment
Fortunately, a few nearby ant hills were missed by the wreck by a few inches.
If you look at the first centerbeam, it looks as if it's pressed up against the back of that hopper. It's possible that the coupler snapped and the car pushed forward as the train slowed, most likely from dynamic breaking. Then the force of the loaded cars behind them, combined with the curve, pushed the centerbeams off the track.
This is why we don't put empty center beams in the middle of loaded train. Shoulda learned this from NS because they do it all the time lol
Just seeing how they tipped I’m assuming this was from excessive speed
@@trainspotter454 They didn't just "tip", rear end forces started to push them off the tracks, they started tipping from the rear end force and eventually left the rails. Either too much power from the DPU(s) or too much braking force on the head end and the weight of the train behind them forced them off the tracks.
This is why we can't have nice things
Wow! That was very dramatic. As soon as one centerbeam was down, the other two decided they also liked the idea of derailing! And then they crushed themselves!
Wow. It's both terrifying and amazing to witness this, even more so in person.
Indeed. This is precisely why you should never get in front of a train. The fact that there was so much momentum that it basically accordioned that rail car shows how heavy they are.
Railroads gotta love these cams... free video monitoring of high activity areas... and almost always monitored live too...
Reminds me of someone house that has a cam pointed at a grade crossing. The owner gave the RR a link to it since some photographers like to take pictures of people on the tracks, which is very dangerous.
Amazing how that last hopper before the center beam stayed on the rails
The power of inertia! Absolutely incredible.
Good thing nothing in the tankers spilled out. And the bobcat operator acted like he didn't see anything.
Seeing that just made saw "Wow" 1000x in my head. The way how the bogies and the car is just up like that, makes me feel weird inside. Hopefully everyone is okay!
The bridge got the chance to feed it's hangry, 11' 8" + 8" style.
Probably the craziest derailment caught on your cameras so far! That train was going way too fast in that tight turn!
I literally just said that, stay out of my head 😆 🤣 😂
It's just like the tehechapi derailment, empties in front of fully loaded cars make very good catalysts for derailments.
3 empty high center cars between loads... no good
@@sirisaaccowbelly1114 I doubt that caused it , if it was string lining the cars would have been pulled off of the track on the other side, this looks like a pusher loco was pushin too hard, and the center beams were just light enough to jump the track.
@@hifijohn there was no end-DPU on this train.
That's why when I record trains, I stay a good distance away so if a train does derail I don't get crushed
Also to avoid junk that flys off or out of cars.
@@robertdavenport5457 yeah
@@robertdavenport5457 and if you notice it derailing in time MAYBE have a chance to run
It never ceases to amaze me the strength of a train bridge..the train cars crumpling under the momentum of the other cars and the bridge never seems to notice.
Yeah, that thing played for keeps. That pier didn't so much as flinch. Probably shy there are plenty of 100+ year-old railway bridges out there
Amaizing, seems like it was only a year ago when the last derailment happened here.
Wow...the way those tank cars crunched up that lumber car into the underside of that bridge was something remarkable in of itself. The bobcat driver at the end was hilarious too.
That's insane! Glad no one was hurt.
Was not prepared for the speed of that train... I'm so used to seeing them at a crawl I had to double check for the 4x multiplier.
That is really shattering, a car was destroyed!
Man that was one for the books! That bobcat driver got some mean stick skills!
Wow! That centerbeam is toast!
The centerbeam flatcar took up a lot of the kinetic energy! Glad it was 'there'.
Was that loud boom at the beginning a really bad run in of slack? That could have caused the train to derail.
That's what it sounded like. And looked like too!
PTC put the train into emergency. With the heavier loaded tank cars shoving the empty weight of the centerbeams, on a curve like that throws off the center of gravity and basically just ran them off the rails. And they had so much momentum there was no chance a single beam was gonna stop 3+ loaded tankers against that bridge
@@northtexasrailfanproductio1133 Train didn't go into emergency until the second centerbeam was completely derailed and pulled apart from the first centerbeam. You can clearly hear the brake pipe vent to atmosphere at 0:29.
Too many railfans watching trains jinxed this train.
I can’t imagine how scary this is, just watching this is chilling
It's ironic how the culprit cars (center beams) sustained the most damage. What a great study of physics...
It's cool to see how the cars just crumble!
The way the centerbeams were crushed, holy cow.
We need a playlist called ‘derailments caught on webcams’.
You have three empty lightweight lumber cars with heavy cars in front of them and heavy tanker cars behind them moving on a sharp curve. The three lumber cars just didn't have enough weight on them to counter the weight pushing on them from behind to hold the rail. I just wonder if there was a locomotive behind them pushing off camera? But either way, It's pretty easy to tell that a force was pushing on them from behind just enough to get the lumber car to lift off the rail and tip over. Oh well. It gives the clean up crews something to do now.
Guy on the Bobcat could care less, he probably sees a derailment once a week. Just out there doing his job!
The guy in the front loader has some amazing skillz`s he spun that thing around like a "BOSS"
0:28 Uh Oh! This is a Very gruesome derailment!!
One of those center-beam cars again. They were the culprits on the Horseshoe Curve derailment a couple of years ago.
well, centerbeams tend to be rather top-heavy when unloaded. Train was going a little fast around that curve but it sounded like one of those cars left the track even before they came into view.
I think that noise was from the bobcat
They were pushed off the tracks from excessive braking force on the head end, basically a reverse stringlining. Empty centerbeams are a usual suspect in derailments.
Holy crow!!! And the snow plow bobcat just going along like nothing happened.
Looks like something was 'pushing' a little too hard from the rear.....wheels of the gray covered were off the track....then the rest. A mess made worse by the weather
Could have been a DPU locomotive back there that was giving it a bit too much sauce.
A huge derailment! I’ll just keep plowing.
Anyone else thought that looked like something out of a movie!? That was seriously intense. I totally thought those thanked cars were gonna derail and that would be a huge problem. I might go up there to see how everything is in the morning if they’re still cleaning up
... I was waiting for a fire to start too
Bobcat says “Nope!” And busts a move right out of there. Too funny.
Bobcat driver was all like:
"Nope. I've got snow to clear."
Wow! Gives you an understanding of the power of a train and a lesson in physics.
That was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note the bird, maybe a pigeon, casually returning to roost at 0:56.
"Honey, I'm home. Oh, there goes the neighborhood."
This brings back memories of the 4 railroad workers in 1972. Head on collision with 2 trains.
What was the accident on?
You have an odd memory, since this was NOTHING like that incident at all.
I was 4 years old when the 72. There is many things fun to bring back memories. There are days I wish I remembered nothing.
WOW! I’m glad no one was hurt and the bridge wasn’t damaged.
Those are some awesome tinfoil centre beams! Or I should say it is pretty impressive how easily that one was crushed by the weight behind it as if the steel was merely aluminium foil.
I can cleary hear a banging noise at the begining of the video and i bet that was slack from the cars.The locomotives slowed down(or even put dynamic brakes on) causing a compression situation that pushed the centerbeams off the track.They didnt flip,they literally got crushed between heavier cars.
The guy in the bobcat doing the snow removal is completely oblivious to what's happening so close to him. Scary.
Nah he heard it and finished his row and turned around to see.
0:34 Oh hey it missed hitting the bridge trestle by only a few feet!
0:39 Nevermind...
Really impressive how that centerbeam was dangling from the bridge like that. Getting that down from there safely must have been interesting.
The train was moving so fast around the curve, I thought that the footage was sped up.