340 Weatherby: Thor's Hammer
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- In this video I do a deep dive into the history and performance of the underrated 340 Weatherby Magnum. I compare it to the more popular 300 WBY and 338 Win mag. Hope you enjoy the video!
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You’re gonna love your 340 when it’s full up and running. I just started load development on my custom Mark V Accumark chambered in 340. Shooting a 250 grain LRX loaded behind a max charge of 87.5 grains of RL-22 with a COAL of 3.640” and I’m getting 3005 fps.
I bought a used one after an elk hunt I was on were I was using a Remington 700 with the 300WSM and had a great shot at a huge bull elk, distance was 325 yards with only a head shot available. Following that I reloaded 250 gr MRX with a new Carlson stock and the Vortex scope. At 600 yards it shoots 3 inches groups. I realize it’s a bit overkill but though I normally would never take a shot beyond 400 yards, hunting for elk in open rolling hills calls for the need to push the limit sometimes.
600 yards, 3 inch groups
B.S
@@johnlocke_1 How about the UA-cam Groupie Parrot mouth talker claims to be using 30 cal 250 grain bullets, only in UA-cam you see idiots with no experiences in firearms or ammo Parrot mouth talking shooting over 200 grain bullets in 30 caliber.
At 64 years old and growing up in the Pacific NW hunting Roosevelt Elk on the N . Oregon coast over massive canyons no one in my family or myself used bullets over 185 grains for hunting.
The 30 caliber 180 grain - 185 grain 8 mm - 185 grain 338 fired from the rifles we have in 300 Wby mag - 8mm Rem mag - 8mm-378 Wby mag and 338-win mag all make complete pass throughs on Elk over these canyons.
Only once did I fire one Hornaday 220 grain 8mm Interloc bullet at a Roosevelt elk and sure thing the copper lead core bullet it blew up from the speed being fired from the Brevex Mauser in 8mm-378 Wby mag.
We lost that Elk because of bullet failure.
@@jcraigshelton how did you end up here then?
The 340 weatherby has its place in the hunting world but just for me personally I stayed with the tried and true 300 win mag. Is the 340 overkill for sone game animals well it can be but dead is dead on my mind. Another thing I kept in mind before I bought my 300 win mag was ammo availability. 340 weatherby is hard to come by and you are limited unless you reload it obviously but a 300 win mag is more common and easy to find. Just for me personally a 300 win mag is just right for what I need it to do and for the animals I hunt. Different guns for different people and uses
Can't wait to see how you make out !! I just bought a mark v accumark in 338- 378 wby !! Just waiting for my scope
Sweet
1.) What are you getting for a scope on that ?
2.) bullet choice ? I really like the Nosler E-Tip (225gr) 0.611 G1 BC & mono metal bullet performance... Not to mention 3300+fps... Straight up Lazer beam
@CodyHill-xb3lm 1. Probably a Leupold
2. I have 225 gr TTSX, 250 gr LRX and 250 gr Accubond
@CodyHill-xb3lm , bushnell elite 4500 6-16 x 50 , and 250 gr accubond, I am not a lover of copper bullets I find they deflected at high fps
You'll love it. It's an absolute beast....
I was lucky to get a Montana Rifles 1999 stainless 340 with 26 inch fluted barrel with muzzlebrake right before they closed the first time, carry it here in Alaska, love the rifle and caliber!!!!
The 340 is an awesome round, i bought it new 16 years ago, my mark v has taken 28 elk, they have all dropped right there, there is a definite difference between it and the 300 win mag, I have one of those as well, just over 3000 fps is doable with rl 22 and imr 7828, have some magpro I'm going to try in it shortly, looking forward to your videos on your rifle, keep up the good work Austin
Nice
I grew up in NW Oregon with family hunting Roosevelt Elk then in 1989 I moved to Alaska to advance my already going guide services.
In Alaska was the great education that large bore rifle with allot of energy rule over big mean animals.
Any rifle in 30 caliber or smaller was always unreliable to put down fast Yukon Moose and all the bears.
Even 300-win mags or 300 Wby mags I watched client shoot black bears that wanted to fight after being shot and it takes multiple bullets to take the fight out of them.
I had a black bear shot by client shoot using a 300 win mag that just stopped the bear from using its hund legs, so it wanted to come at me by pulling itself at me with the front legs and snapping its teeth with growling, Mr. Black bear ate a 286 grain Barns TSX from the 9.3x62 Mauser that snuffed the life out of that bear on the spot.
Then when rifles like the 338 or larger was used and using copper expanding bullets the difference in fast kills was greatly apparent how the large bullets with High energy took the will to live or fight out of moose and bears.
I was offered a $200 deal on a new CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser that I can't explain why it kills every animal so fast other than large 286 grain Barns TSX bullets I use and have the reloads up to a little under commercial loaded 375 H&H magnum loads.
The 9.3x62 Mauser became my guide work rifle for 18 years.
One other of my rifles is a one shot one kill is the Brevex Mauser in 8 mm-378 Wby magnum that has a 30 inch Douglas barrel so 185 grain bullets my Chronograph shows bullets moving at 3900 FPS when using 115 grains of IMR 7828.
The 340 is perfect for the 250 and 300 grain bullets. I used a 338 for a little while. Way more gun than I ever needed.
There is a lot of recoil...
There is no good reason to be using 338 250 or 300 grain bullets for hunting when the best ballistics for the 338 comes from the 225 grain 338 bullets.
I have even put complete pass throughs using the 338 win mag shooting 210 grain 338s on clients AK Brown bears from 1300 to 1500-pound bears.
There is allot of nonsense now from Parrot mouth talkers of using extreme heavy weight bullets that normally are used for match shooting and never was used for much hunting.
Some would say there is no good reason for anything over a 300 mag. I like the 250's.
@@randylong8156 Those who say on UA-cam a 300 mag of any kind is to large look into where they live, and it will be east cast jerk offs!
@@randylong8156Well, there are those who hunt in Africa and those who don’t.
Very nice video. Looking forward to you shooting this cartridge on the channel. I'm just glad you finally decided to start shooting a man's cartridge.
Yeah... I have stopped shooting the 7mm PRC
@@ReloadingWeatherby best comeback ever!
Really nice vid I have all of these and you did a nice job
Thank you!
I have a 340 Wby in a Sako TRG-S. Been using the 250gr LRX also. Perfect for grizzly, moose, and bison where i live.
Thanks for sharing!
Mark and Sam are sending 300gr Berger @ 2600+ with an 338 win mag. Their setup has 28" barrel but that pretty formidable and efficient. To me its all good as I reguard anythjng 338 cal is excellence from 338 Federal to the real big boys. All of them have superior performance to the smaller 30' and lesser diameters.
I doubt I’ll ever need a cartridge more powerful than my 300 PRC. But if I ever feel like I do I’m 99% sure it’ll be the 340. BTW I would love to See more content on the 7mm wby magnum. Not much out there on it and I’m interested in buying a good 7mm in the near future.
I think the longer distance comparisons are fine for illustration. My Montana Outfitter has a 500 yard ethical range limit on all his guided hunts. Plenty of opportunities in the first 500 yards in Montana.
I Wish All the Montana Guides Did! 🙄
My guiding clients in Alaska I have often with me for the client to use is a Brevex Mauser I've done with a 30 inch Douglas barrel in 8mm-378 Wby mag and a Leupold 6.5x20 for a scope.
This rifle has taken down allot of Yukon Moose - Brown bears and black bears for the clients using it.
One of the Brown bear hunting locations is a large knob some 200 feet Hugh where we can look up and down the Salmon spawning stream then use the 8 mm- 378 Wby magnum for ambushing the bears
@@lurebenson7722 🙄So, What Your Trying to Tell Me Is That Your Clients Are Using a Gun That They Are Unfamiliar With Shooting, One That Has Extremely Large Recoil, and Shooting At Extremely Long Ranges Compared to What Most Shooters Are Capable Of? 😱Sounds Like a Recipe For Disaster to Me! 🤕🚑
My ol accumark used to love 250gr Barnes tsx at 2950 fps, oryx, elk, mule deer
If you think the 340 is Thors hammer you should look into the 375 mjolnir.. an insane wildcat cartridge. 500 Jeffery necked down to 375.
Oooh fun
That sounds spicy
I own an AR 10 I've done using a Pac Nor SS super match 25.5 " barrel in 375 - 300 WSM wildcat that I can get near 375 H&H magnum performance.
@@lurebenson7722 super spicy
Good comparison
Thanks
I'm excited to see your new new rifle get back to you. If you were to recommend 1 Weatherby cartridge, no caveats, what would it be?
I get the rifle tomorrow! 300 WBY no question!
I’m gonna be honest I love 30 cal but that 338 diameter just hits different and. If I had to pick one caliber for deer elk moose and brown bear 338 is super versatile 160 gr ttsx for deer size game and 250 grs for big game
Awesome Austin!
Id love ta do a SxS with my 358 NM
Its pretty close. (Altho you have a publicized edge) You have more case capacity.
Those Barnes may have some expansion @ 2000 fps, they will NOT be optimal or even what most expect. From say a CupNCore. 2200 is better and 2400 will get what most expect to see when a person says good expansion.
These copper slugs are awesome for penetration and weight retension. NOT GREAT for long range bullet expansion.
IMHO choose them for closer dangerious targets and choose a different bullet for long range preformance on game.
I agree, I will most likely use a mono bullet in this 340 Weatherby because generally speaking the Weatherby cartridges love mono bullets.
Based on my own experience, i could get 150 fos more with my Mark V 340 Wby than with my 338 Win with 26 inches barrel all with max loads.
Pick the one you prefer.
Man....that is a hammer!!!
That's one cartridge that shouldn't leave you wanting.
340 is a lot but Thor’s hammer 😳 the 378 Weatherby is more like it! It recoils more then the 460’s I have shot. All great cartridges if you can handle the mild recoil🤔🤣
The only 338 I'd be interested in is the 338 federal. Either way it sounds like 340 Weatherby is a beast.
Thanks for watching! I wish the 338 Federal was more popular
I absolutely love my .338 federal
Reloader 33 was designed exclusively for the military and the Lapua round
338 Lapua? Psshhh!!! How about that 338-378 Wby mag?
Id call barnes. Many of their bullets expand below 2000fps and the lrx can expand below 1500fps in specific calibers
I know that is what they advertise... but like my cartridge choice, I want some extra insurance.
@@ReloadingWeatherby i test em at distance. how much insurance do you want, and how much do you actually have? without testing them at distance you have nooooo idea.
They also call this cartridge Bang-Flop !!
😏 Austin, You'll Be Happy to Know That Joseph Von Benedict is Starting to Come to Senses! He Just Published An Article on the Unethics of Long Range Hunting For Petersons Magazine! See, There is Still Hope to Win This Fight Within the Hunting Community! 🥳
It's his brother that is the exact opposite lol
Joseph Was With Aram, Hunting in Utah, When That Deer "Incident" Happened! However, Joseph Used to Be Singing a Different Tune Until Several "Influencers" - Like Yourself , Jim Harmer, Desert Dog, etc...- Called Him Out! This is One Fight I Want to Win Before I Die (Bringing Sanity and Ethics Back Into The Sport)! Speaking of Which, That 250 grain Bullet From Your 340 Weatherby is Going to Wreck Alot of Unnecessary Meat on An Elk and I Want to See Anyone Who Can Consistently Shoot That as Well as a 6.5 Creedmore at Distance (Say 400 yards)? 🤪
Would you agree that with larger caliber bullets the 2000 fps rule can bebent a bit? You already have such large diameter hole that complete mushroom effect is not so critical unless maybe your hunting Buffalo or some other dangerous African game. Whats your thoughts on this?
I'm not sure... I think I would still like my bullets to expand
@@ReloadingWeatherby I would agree, expanding puts more energy into the animal. I have always hunted with 30 cal and smaller other than my Henry .44 mag. I feel like the .44 creates a massive wound channel. You are no longer relying on energy so much as massive tissue damage and blood loss from the disrupted tissue. Of course this is speculation and conjecture on my part.
All I know is that the more I know about balistics and terminal performance the more I question what I used to know 😂
The more I learn the less I know!
It depends on the bullet, if I shoot controlled expanding bullets, there isn't much difference between my 340 versus 300 win mag, 30-06, 264 win mag, shoot softer bullets though and bigger holes are more prevalent, with the bigger, faster rounds, biggest hole I've seen, buddy has a 338 lapua, decided he needed to try the 300 berger, soft bullet, on a pronghorn, behind the shoulder shot, the exit hole I could put my head through, needless to say, he doesn't shoot game with them anymore, switched to a tougher bullet, hope that helps
That would certainly kill a great many big critters; bull elk, grizzlies, Kodiak bears, Bradley fighting vehicles…Just sayin’. 🤠
Hammer 267 HHT bullets
338/06 I can get a 230 grain eldx going 2740 but that's single feed only to long for mag
Nice!
A thought the 338/378 was the Hammer of Thor?
Storm Breaker
340Wby: I'm Thor's Hammer
338-378Wby: Am I a joke to you???
Nope those old rounds have stood the test of time- the 338 Lapua was designed for the military to provide extreme long shots, as can be seen in the original format the cartridge was built in.
Why not a 378? obviously recoil isn't the issue
No need for it
A 250gr monolithic in 338 just doesn’t make sense. That’s an SD of .313, which the SD people look for in a dangerous game bullet with a cup and core design. 225gr is probably tops for what makes sense and with a mono, I’d stick with the 200-210gr level. I’ll take the speed over the slight wind advantage you get with the heavier bullets.
I get that. I bought 225 gr TTSX for my 340 Weatherby
@@ReloadingWeatherby Try a 200gr Badlands Bulldozer. BC up there with the 250gr LRX with way better ballistics because of the extra velocity.
🤷♂ I Would Have Been Alot More Impressed Had You Chosen the 300 Raptor (A Wildcat Based Off Of a Weatherby Case) or The 300 Wherewolf! 🔥Do You Know That the 30 Caliber Now Has Multiple Bullets That Have B.C.'s Over 1.0? 😁
👨⚖Immitation is The Best Form of Flattery! 😎There Is Only 1 Thor's Hammer (Mine) and It's Made From The 408 Cheytac (With a Water Capacity of 160 grains of Water)! 💪So, Find That Little Weatherby "Magnum" Cartridge a Place To Hide - When "The Real Ones" Come Out "To Put The Hammer Down"! 💥😜
You would know that best Ron.... constantly trying to convince people that the 270 Win is something it isn't... 😉
@@ReloadingWeatherby 🤭 You Shouldn't Take Everything So Seriously Austin, As We Are All Here To "Shoot The Breeze" (B.S.) About Something We All Enjoy! My Most Expensive Gun Was Nothing More Than a $10,000 "Conversation Piece" and The Most Expensive Paper Weight I Own! 😳Truth Be Told, The 22lr is My Favorite Cartridge and is Something That Anyone Can Shoot! I Owe It To My Ability to Shoot and It Is The Only Cartridge Used in Both the Summer and Winter Olympic Games! Now That is Some Wisdom to Consider Passing on To Your Children - Bigger Isn't Always Better (Big Things Can Come in Little Packages)!👨🎓👩🎓
@@ronlowney4700 I am shooting the breeze... don't take things so seriously. You are teasing the 340 Weatherby, I'll tease the 270 Winchester
@@ReloadingWeatherby Fair Enough! 👴"Uncle Ronald" Approves, Since He Has No Wife to Argue With! 🤣
If one gets close enough, one does not NEED the big guns! 😃
But are you worthy? 😂
Not yet...
@@ReloadingWeatherby lol
338 SKULLFUK.