How does the User Interface compare to Escort? Ive grown up with and learned on Escorts, but their latest issues with their apps are absolutely unacceptable. I am happy with the RD itself (Max 360 MkII) but Im just losing faith and having no PSL (from their dogcrap worthless apps) which is an advertised feature that I paid for, is unsat. How is/are the Uniden, etc apps with PSL, community alerts, ease of use, etc? Is the RD easy to learn? Do you like the alert tones/sounds? I also like how quiet Escorts are, as I dont drive a sports car and am not a "serious" speeder. I dont want a bunch of BSM, etc falses.
I like the brutal honesty at the end. Really shows you aren’t in Big Radar Detector’s pocket. I have just about had it with my Redline. Disabled K-Band today and only set Ka to 2/5/8 (Colorado & Wyoming). Hopefully I see some improvement on alert timing and false alarms.
I couldn’t agree more with you. I was an Escort fanboy for many years, but switch to R7 years ago and now the R8. to me, the RA with the latest from where updates running with R8 Companion app is the absolute Best In Class among the windshield mount detectors. Shame on Escort for peddling garbage detectors at a premium price. Vortex was right to tell them to do better.
Well, I had escort Max 360 Mkll and I changed to escort Max CAM 360 and now I have escort Red line 360 and I don't see any difference until now only the surveillance cameras at the traffic lights and cameras that are nearby detect me, but what we want it to detect, it doesn't detect it. I feel cold when I look at the enemy on the road and it doesn't detect it?🚓🙃
Thank you for all your hard work and testing these units. You do a great job. It is reasonable to expect improvements to move the detectors technology forward to provide better coverage. In my opinion, escort has put advertising dollars far out in front of research and development dollars and it shows.
Seriously unimpressive work by Escort here, but unfortunately that's par for the course as of recent. But it's a double-edged sword. Recommend Uniden or V1 too much and people want to know why you don't recommend escort, rag on escort because they don't fix their detectors, and people call you a Uniden or V1 Fanboy. At the end of the day, we don't recommend escort because escort doesn't work, not that we're biased. If we're paying top dollar for a detector, it should perform like a top dollar detector.
In the USAF the "/CC" means Commander. (eg. "420FS/CC" is the 420th Fighter Squadron Commander) So you're the Cannonball Commander?! Thats badass lol. Even if unintentional, I appreciate the username! 😂
I live around virginia and often drive through there. What other options do i have when i’m looking for rdd immunity? I’m actually curious because im currently shopping around for a new radar detector.
I was told by a salesman at Best Buy that the Redline was the best window mount detector you could buy. NOT TRUE. After taking his advice, I bought one. I still have my R8 in the other car. I first liked the Escort but as time went on, I began to see late alerts where I was on top of the cop before it went off or no alerts, so I compared the Uniden and Escort side by side (yes, I know they can false each other) and had several late alerts on the Escort when the Uniden alerted way earlier. I realized I should have bought a second R8 for the other car. Heck even my old R4 without arrows seems to outperform the more expensive redline. It is really important to research before you buy and don't listen to a salesman.
The V1G2 is straight trash. No real world video/saves of it working as great as something like a Uniden. Just a bunch of V1g2 fangirls in a circl3 J3rk saying how good it is, without backing it in the real world. 😂🤡
I have had R4 and very impressed just bought the V1gen2 and just as impressed with it. it’s just a hobby to me. The info you get from the apps is awsome
I live in NYC and the NYPD HWP has been ramping up patrols quite a lot lately. I typically don't speed much however we have a criminally low 50mph highway speed limit. I decided that getting a detector is a bit of insurance (hopefully). I spent the past few weeks watching tons of your videos and went through tons of threads on the forums. I really wanted a V1G2 but didn't want to be constantly tethered to an app for the best functionality. In the end I went for the R8. Snagged one from Best Buy as they matched the Amazon Prime deal last week. I've had it in the car for 3 days now. I'm quite shocked how well it functions. I set it up to your recommendation and tweaked a few things. No BSM faults. And I have a brand new Mazda. The auto mute works amazing. Updated to the latest firmware last night. This morning it saved my bacon. I was entering an on-ramp at a brisk pace as one does in a Miata at 6am. I got a moving KA hit hard. Sloww.. 2 NYPD HWP at the same time. One actively pulling someone over directly next to me as I entered the highway and one 500ft ahead. This thing just paid for itself. Thanks man for all the extensive info and testing.
As an R8 owner, I'd love to see a comparison of the R8 on current firmware against the V1 gen 2 on current firmware. Escorts are completely out of the running for me.
With respect to the response time of the escort Redline 360c, it would be interesting to see a video about how it responds to instant on radar. Specifically, if the radar is active for a shorter amount of time than the reaction time of the 360c. I've seen comments that say that the user would get no alert at all. In that case. It would be very interesting to see that demonstrated in a video. Thanks for the videos that you do. They seem to me to be the best resource for unbiased and informative information anywhere about radar detectors.
I have a windshield mount red line 360 C, and they always wait for your videos. Mine seems to be doing pretty good in my area, so I’m just going to leave it alone and not do the latest upgrade for now! Thank you for your work.
You’re the best in the business when it comes to reviewing and testing radar detectors. We can see and hear your disappointment. I’m sure Escort appreciated your honesty and unbiased feedback. I’m sure with this video that you just released, Escort will 100 fold their efforts to fix the problems. As always thank you for being so informative and thorough with your testing. No one will drop $800 on a detector that doesn’t perform to the competition.
Thank you for testing this update. I did the firmware update and regret it. Everyone complains about slow response time but the biggest advantage to this detector is hardly any falses in my area. That was the thing i liked about this detector. Save me when im doing 10-12 over. Dont make noise. New update, I see ka rear falses now. Not good, i want to roll back to 1.4 Thanks for your testing
Ok, updated firmware on my R8 AND downloaded R8 Companion on my iPhone… THIS is the way to go. I used to prefer my 360C because of better filtering, now I prefer the R8. I am loving this set up with the Companion. I have had both detectors for a couple of years and I used to prefer the 360C… no longer by a long shot.
The more time goes on, the more I think Jon @ Radenso was nothing more than a modern day snake oil salesman. Lucky for him, he was able to use covid as an excuse. He disappeared from the detector scene and rightfully so.
@marklloyd4153 yeah the R4 has better range and more advanced filtering capabilities than the R3. I think it can also identify the type of radar gun that is shooting at you.
Thanks . I bought it because of the price but didn't know how good or bad it was . I think its more than i need but perfect pricefor my wallet @@lookalikehuuh
Thank you very much for your honesty which is rare as an influencer or reviewer. I'm in the market for a flagship radar detector after years of not having one and was going with the red line until your past few videos and form post. Thank you guys for your hard work
What people don't understand is that many gun manufacturers use automated instant on timing, which can be as low as a half second burst. This will allow an officer to get reading without any warning at the detector. I believe escort reduction of false alarms was simply done by slowing down their reaction times, at the users expense.
Instant on is definitely a threat, but what i have typically experienced, is that cops soon tire of having to to interact with it, and just leave it set to constant on. Instant on warnings are going to result in a ticket, if theyre targeting your car, more often than not, regardless of which detector youre running. For this reason, i prefer range, in hopes of a warning when theyre targeting a target in front of me.
I agree, I was driving down I75 North in Michigan today and police were using some type of hand held gun it wasn't Laser, I don't think although I could be wrong.. but the detector never alerted... and I updated 3 days ago..
I understand the need for filtering with all of the BSM out there but we should be IMPROVING! My old OG redline in the closet could catch .2 second shots all day long and yet here we are dealing with this on far more advanced detectors with much faster processors. I’ll just keep rocking my ALP with the netradar DSP. It’s still serving me well so far
Prices on some of the detectors are getting out of hand. Still enjoy my V1. Another idea is watch your speed, maybe I am getting to old to drive like a bat out of hell.😊
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I have been waiting a long time to upgrade my detectors, and I really wanted the Redline 360C, but it looks like even after all this time Escort can't make it it work right. I'm pretty close to just buying a bunch of Uniden R8s.
Yep, I got a ticket a month ago because of response time. I actually thought it was an issue with the detector and I paid escort 150 bucks and sent it in for repair. But it still is the same. I purchased an R8 right after.
Glad your honest with the testing and not sugar coated. Hopefully next time, you would include other radar detectors to compare and yeah, I'm sure other folks that own Escort are not to happy. Personally I would be freaking p*sssed.
Yeah I’ll run some other detectors next time. I ran out of cameras lol. These types of tests are very tedious to process behind the scenes. Here’s a BTS look at the process: www.rdforum.org/threads/141712/post-1945994 I manually mark every moment each detector goes off and then run the math for the elapsed time of each alert.
Your lost for words at the end of this video says it all exactly how im feeling with Escort. Will not buy another product from escort ever again. Theyre going to have to move mountains for others to get the trust back
I got a redline 360c back when they first came out. Was so excited. After just getting my wife a uniden R7. Needless to say I was sorely disappointed that hers at less than half the cost of mine, was better in every way. Add also the fact that hers now 4 years later has only gotten better and never had any issues. While my crappy escort has gone through 2 (very expensive BTW) power adapters, and the screen is so burned in its useless. Her R7 screen is still like new and her power adapter has never failed. Escort is the Apple of the radar detector world and I mean that in the worst way possible. Not repairable, parts (screen) not available for purchase, and essential parts like the power adapter are built to fail and cost 5x what their competitors charge. This was my first and absolutely last escort product. I'll be replacing it with something better (and more affordable) as soon as I can. I feel like a fool for overpaying so much for what is essentially a garbage paperweight. Escort should be ashamed to charge so much for garbage like this.
Same boat I was a escort fanatic so I wanted the best of the best they had to offer totally regret my Redline 360c. Will be buying Uniden r8 and not look back. Escort is straight trash
Escort is junk. I travel the country and have been running radar detectors for 20 years and have never received a ticket. Decided to try Escort over my R8 and got pulled over for the first time ever totally due to the delay. Additionally, the unit constantly locks up or the audio decides not to work. So I have to babysit it by always checking to see if the scanning bar is moving and bumping the volume occasionally. Reboots fix it. Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous! I tried two different units. Also get a ton of false Ka alerts, but none with the R8 in the same areas. Running two R8s, two R4s and one R7 across my vehicle fleet. Never an issue with Uniden. Very dependable and the ramp ups are excellent. We have to be able to depend on these things and I can 100% confirm you CANNOT trust Escort… Threw the Escort in the trash where it belongs. I still have my original 20yo detector that works better than this new Escort, no joke. Have run Valentines too and would put them second to the Unidens.
I’ve had redline 360c got a little better with second firm wear update.EXPECTED MORE .the best detectore I should’ve got rid of was my BELLTRONICS STI DRIVER THAT ONE WAS AWSOME
Definitely felt like i got bit in the a$$ for trying something new with the Redline (had the V1G1 for 10yrs prior). Wish I just went with the V1G2. Thanks for all your testing. I hope Escort will respond to this. Embarrasing for a flagship detector.
Damn this is upsetting. I’ve been waiting for the redline to be worth it for a long time now. I used to have an r4 and it was the worst experience ever. I drove past several police with their radar guns pointing right at me and not a peep but it alerted to every single Mazda on the road. I don’t want to try an r8 as it’s the same hardware. Guess I’ll keep waiting
I love escorts marketing when they release these detectors say they set the bar when these are the biggest pieces of shit ever. I'm so disappointed. There should be a class action lawsuit.
Can you retest the Uniden R4? I feel like my R4 actually isn't as responsive as my almost 7 year old DFR7. I've been meaning to throw them up side by side on my windshield, but haven't gotten around to it. I do have some mildly challenging terrain in Northern KY, but it's not THAT challenging. Now granted.... KSP in Northern KY love the instant on game, which is the whole reason I bought the R4. But all the time I feel like my DFR7 did a better job. And oddly enough, those same KSP officers love to use KA POP. According to the R4 anyways. I did swap from KA narrow to segmentation, but living in one state and working in another, means there's only 2 segments I DON'T use. However, I did see a marginal bump in performance on the KA band, but it really wasn't much. That being said, I really do love my R4 with all the features it has. K band falses really aren't much of a thing for me with the R4, and most Sherriff's in my area use K band. So that's really saying something.
I would like to know when comparing the escort red line 360C to the uniden R8/R9, just how big a gap is there between performance ? if you had to rate both units from 1 to 10, how would they score ? are they a mile apart, or closer than you might think🤔
I was coming through bend oregon last weekend with my redline 360 c last weekend. I have it set to highway but anyway I passed a cop on the oncoming lane and I was surprised my detector wasn't going off because there was two cops one in northbound and one in southbound lanes about 500 yards apart from eachother and my alarm wasn't going off at all. As I was heading south I decided to slow down just in case and what's crazy is there was a cop and he had his radar looking gun out the window and on his window sill and shooting my way and the detector was silent the whole time. I'm wondering if ya could help me with my settings maybe it's an error on my end but I thought I set it to your recommended settings when I got it. But now that I see this video I'm curious now.
Chances are they were running instant on or laser. It's very common with a variety of detectors to pass by officers without getting an alert, especially given that these are radar detectors and not police car detectors.
This is exactly why I ditched my Redline 360c. I was hardcore Escort for nearly 20 years. I was so disappointed in the Redline 360c and then a firmware update caused my arrows to be reversed. They wanted me to pay an extra 250 to correct it. Nah, I am good. I went to the R8 and have not looked back. Couldn't be happier. Escort is a joke now as is their customer service. They clearly have become money hungry and a little to confident in themselves. IMO they could care less about their consumers. Another example of corporate greed.
The only Escort that was worth a darn was the one Mike helped develop when he was at Cincinnati Microwave. The others have been chasing V1 quality and reliability. Those of you remember the old Fuzzbuster, I guess I am telling my age 😅.
An escort radar detector that costs twice as much or 10x as much as my max 3 and radar detector enthusiasts are posting results that are a literal insult to the industry. I'll stick to my max 3 thank you very much
Uniden needs to be put in the hot seat as well for releasing 1.51 and 1.34, which both have the GPS bug that 1.47 had. Those idiots didn't listen to Mithheru!
Id love to see escort's development and QA testing cycle, all that PE money backing and they continue to be less than mediocre yet asking for high quality pricing...they haven't made anything confidently sustainable from a software and hardware standpoint since the OG Redline....i dont think they ever will
Classic Escort performance! Lots of $$$ not a lot of performance. Unfortunately Escort is one of those brands where if you don't know about detectors you'd think there good. i have purchased a R8, V1G2, and a Radenso DS1 based off your tests. Never will Escort get another dollar from me after all the tickets i got from their slow detectors.
I had the older redline escort and it was a great detector..!!! Until it just stopped working.!!! Then I bought the new redline 360c and it lets me know when there’s a Photo speed camera… but I don’t know if I don’t have it set up correctly but it doesn’t seem to inform me of any Radars at all… it seems to flash its warning lights but I’ve yet to hear it give me a Warning Signal….
How many years has the new Redline 360c been out now? Way too long for it not to be operating like a pro with its high price tag attached to it. Thanks for the update!
I have a Max 360C MkII, and I've had a lot of problems having it "mute" K bands. That thing where it shows K band and it's strength, but it's grayed out and silent. It's a bit of a problem for me because the local PD in my town run K, and the Sheriff's and Troopers run KA.
Those are the GPS lockouts. It’s supposed to do that for fixed stationary false alerts from speed signs and door openers while still alerting to new moving signals like police officers.
@@VortexRadar Oh yeah, that's right. It's still surprising that it locks out those alerts when the police are stationary. I try to manually "unlock" it, but that doesn't seem to always work.
When stuff like this happens I always wonder how the product gets through the software/integration testing before being released - surely some product lead/manager had to have signed off that testing completed satisfactorily and it's ready for release, right? This update's gross performance screams that the testing was possibly limited to "does the firmware still boot up?"
I have the 360c and the R8... I switch them out periodically. Getting ready to go back to R8. updates for Redline seems to be giving me more KA false alerts. Also, my R8 is behind on updates - my current version is 125.104.116. Do you have to update the R8 with EACH new firmware version, or can I just update the latest version?
Just got my second Escort, this time the 360C. The cord rubber started disintegrating after only one use (~5hr drive). Now the detector stopped booting up. Was told via chat to press the SRC button a bunch upon initial startup but did not solve problem. Guess i need to return it.. Shipping is so slow from them, as my new cord took 2+ weeks to receive. Super frustrating.
Escort always have been a problem. They expect you to pay a premium Price. And they give you Junk. 900.00 wasted. Never buy from them anymore. I don't..
Escort hasnt been good since the advent of the Max. Still boggles my mind that Escort put a sub par antenna with their first digital rd. Should've stuck the M3 platform. Id love to see a new S7+ rd down the line.
I've just purchased RL360c international version, and still have 3 other cars need devices,do you recommend to buy same or wait for an Escort new release probably ? Many thanks
Do you have any idea why my 360 no longer will show the direction of the radar source as anything but ahead. meaning, it will not show the signal as coming from the rear nor sides. I purchased in 2023 and recently tried a firmware update, but it seams updated. BTW, the other direction arrows worked early on. Thanks
Am I understanding this right. When creating a profile for the V1G2. Just because I do "2,4,5,6,8" it doesn't improve performance as the unit still scans all frequencies? It just only alerts to frequencies within the custom "sweeps"? If so there's not much point in creating the profile as there are very few KA falses (where I live anyways)
Escort has a habit of the "all or nothing" detection behavior WAY back to the Original Max. I have the Max 360 MKII and it's more of the same, Uniden and Valentine have ramp up that is light years better than Escort.
How do you think that Cobra rad 700i would compare up to these results. Because I know I got the Cobra rad 700I, and when I'm driving around, it seems to be pretty quiet and when it goes off, it seems to pick up the cops very quickly. And I normally get pretty good range out of it.
And I forgot to mention I figured there would be more test results with this type of radar detector because didn't escort go in with Cobra when they made this so. Technically, it's somewhat considered an escort detector.
It’s been less than 30 days since I’ve had my redline 360c and I think I’m gunna get the refund from them my og redline from the stone ages was more responsive just with more falses. So what’s the best now for average consumer the R8 ?
I have the V1G2 and the RL360C. I've been using the V1G2 even though I find the settings confusing. Better mounts and lighter. The only thing I dislike is having to use a smartphone with it. It's ridiculous in this day and age. Annoying.
Well, I had escort Max 360 Mkll and I changed to escort Max CAM 360 and now I have escort Red line 360 and I don't see any difference until now only the surveillance cameras at the traffic lights and cameras that are nearby detect me, but what we want it to detect, it doesn't detect it. I feel cold when I look at the enemy on the road and it doesn't detect it?🚓😢
My detector performance got worse. I tested 35.5Ka and seen no improvement. I tested 34.7KA and found it would no longer react to instant on. Before I could pickup the computer assit short burst. My Redline would show 1 bar and a short chirp. Now nothing. If Escort doesn't fix this soon, I'm going to use the R8 full time.
Something is definitely wrong with my Redline. This morning it kept telling me over speed. This option is not an option I have activated. Plus the display is flashing. I want the old software back.
I just got hit last week with my redline 360c and I’m pissed, It didn’t even light up until I blew past the state trooper. I got hit for going 10 over. its going back for a refund
One VERY salient question here that hasn't been asked or clarified on this review... are these reductions in performance, these failures, if you will, are they assessments after just the first of the recent updates? Or are these assessments being made after the most recent TWO updates have been uploaded? I ask because based on the timing of the review and when you said you tested the Redline 360c, it appears that this review only accounts for the "first" recent update from just over a week ago, and does NOT account for the recent update of about 2 days ago. Please clarify. Thank you!!!
The update came out and I released a video going over the changes. Then I tested the response time of the detector and released a second video going over test results. Due to failures with my original Redline, I wasn’t able to properly test the changes before the firmware update was publicly released.
Understood and thank you for the clarification. As you said in your recent video release, Escort results disappointing at the moment and it is NOT a big ask that their flagship be effective, responsive, and worth the price. Hopefully we will very soon see improvements.
That's a lot of money for a detector that performs like that. I feel your frustration.
More confirmation on why I like my Uniden R8 :)
How does the User Interface compare to Escort? Ive grown up with and learned on Escorts, but their latest issues with their apps are absolutely unacceptable. I am happy with the RD itself (Max 360 MkII) but Im just losing faith and having no PSL (from their dogcrap worthless apps) which is an advertised feature that I paid for, is unsat.
How is/are the Uniden, etc apps with PSL, community alerts, ease of use, etc?
Is the RD easy to learn? Do you like the alert tones/sounds? I also like how quiet Escorts are, as I dont drive a sports car and am not a "serious" speeder. I dont want a bunch of BSM, etc falses.
I like the brutal honesty at the end. Really shows you aren’t in Big Radar Detector’s pocket. I have just about had it with my Redline. Disabled K-Band today and only set Ka to 2/5/8 (Colorado & Wyoming). Hopefully I see some improvement on alert timing and false alarms.
My R8 is a couple years old and still king of the hill by far. Escort has slipped for many years.
I couldn’t agree more with you. I was an Escort fanboy for many years, but switch to R7 years ago and now the R8. to me, the RA with the latest from where updates running with R8 Companion app is the absolute Best In Class among the windshield mount detectors. Shame on Escort for peddling garbage detectors at a premium price. Vortex was right to tell them to do better.
I just commented, I have been waiting for Escort to fix the Redline 360C, but I'm tired of waiting and about to just buy some Uniden R8s.
Well, I had escort Max 360 Mkll and I changed to escort Max CAM 360 and now I have escort Red line 360 and I don't see any difference until now only the surveillance cameras at the traffic lights and cameras that are nearby detect me, but what we want it to detect, it doesn't detect it. I feel cold when I look at the enemy on the road and it doesn't detect it?🚓🙃
Thank you for all your hard work and testing these units. You do a great job. It is reasonable to expect improvements to move the detectors technology forward to provide better coverage. In my opinion, escort has put advertising dollars far out in front of research and development dollars and it shows.
Thanks for posting. Clearly your frustration has a lot of merit. Disappointed as well in their product. Keep up the great work.
Cheers
You are one of the only channels that goes into depth with a Radar detector. I pray your channel grow over 1 million followers.
Thanks for the honesty. Completely reasonable. Frustration is warranted.
Its amazing that a corporation runs fewer tests on its flagship product than an individual on youtube
Thanks for all of your time performing these tests. We won't know unless you know . . .
Seriously unimpressive work by Escort here, but unfortunately that's par for the course as of recent. But it's a double-edged sword. Recommend Uniden or V1 too much and people want to know why you don't recommend escort, rag on escort because they don't fix their detectors, and people call you a Uniden or V1 Fanboy. At the end of the day, we don't recommend escort because escort doesn't work, not that we're biased. If we're paying top dollar for a detector, it should perform like a top dollar detector.
In the USAF the "/CC" means Commander. (eg. "420FS/CC" is the 420th Fighter Squadron Commander) So you're the Cannonball Commander?! Thats badass lol. Even if unintentional, I appreciate the username! 😂
I live around virginia and often drive through there. What other options do i have when i’m looking for rdd immunity? I’m actually curious because im currently shopping around for a new radar detector.
@@drewbokman2948V1G2
I was told by a salesman at Best Buy that the Redline was the best window mount detector you could buy. NOT TRUE. After taking his advice, I bought one. I still have my R8 in the other car. I first liked the Escort but as time went on, I began to see late alerts where I was on top of the cop before it went off or no alerts, so I compared the Uniden and Escort side by side (yes, I know they can false each other) and had several late alerts on the Escort when the Uniden alerted way earlier. I realized I should have bought a second R8 for the other car. Heck even my old R4 without arrows seems to outperform the more expensive redline. It is really important to research before you buy and don't listen to a salesman.
*This video just shows -- V1G2 is the way to go.*
Have 2 vehicles with the Gen 2 The best!
I would go with one if they updated the UI. Since Escort can't get the Redline 360C working, ima have to grab some Uniden R8s.
The V1G2 is straight trash. No real world video/saves of it working as great as something like a Uniden. Just a bunch of V1g2 fangirls in a circl3 J3rk saying how good it is, without backing it in the real world. 😂🤡
I have had R4 and very impressed just bought the V1gen2 and just as impressed with it. it’s just a hobby to me. The info you get from the apps is awsome
@@ar_2015u a genius.
I regret dropping $$ on this shithox in favor of R8. No worries, R8W will debut soon, then off to the shelves to collect dust for 360c
I live in NYC and the NYPD HWP has been ramping up patrols quite a lot lately. I typically don't speed much however we have a criminally low 50mph highway speed limit. I decided that getting a detector is a bit of insurance (hopefully). I spent the past few weeks watching tons of your videos and went through tons of threads on the forums. I really wanted a V1G2 but didn't want to be constantly tethered to an app for the best functionality. In the end I went for the R8. Snagged one from Best Buy as they matched the Amazon Prime deal last week. I've had it in the car for 3 days now. I'm quite shocked how well it functions. I set it up to your recommendation and tweaked a few things. No BSM faults. And I have a brand new Mazda. The auto mute works amazing. Updated to the latest firmware last night. This morning it saved my bacon. I was entering an on-ramp at a brisk pace as one does in a Miata at 6am. I got a moving KA hit hard. Sloww.. 2 NYPD HWP at the same time. One actively pulling someone over directly next to me as I entered the highway and one 500ft ahead. This thing just paid for itself. Thanks man for all the extensive info and testing.
V Gen2 is killing it. Im now regretting my Escort purchase
As an R8 owner, I'd love to see a comparison of the R8 on current firmware against the V1 gen 2 on current firmware. Escorts are completely out of the running for me.
Make Escort Redline great again. 🤷♂️
With respect to the response time of the escort Redline 360c, it would be interesting to see a video about how it responds to instant on radar. Specifically, if the radar is active for a shorter amount of time than the reaction time of the 360c. I've seen comments that say that the user would get no alert at all. In that case. It would be very interesting to see that demonstrated in a video.
Thanks for the videos that you do. They seem to me to be the best resource for unbiased and informative information anywhere about radar detectors.
I have a windshield mount red line 360 C, and they always wait for your videos. Mine seems to be doing pretty good in my area, so I’m just going to leave it alone and not do the latest upgrade for now! Thank you for your work.
You’re the best in the business when it comes to reviewing and testing radar detectors. We can see and hear your disappointment. I’m sure Escort appreciated your honesty and unbiased feedback. I’m sure with this video that you just released, Escort will 100 fold their efforts to fix the problems. As always thank you for being so informative and thorough with your testing. No one will drop $800 on a detector that doesn’t perform to the competition.
My redline 360c is having major false alerts since the update. It was way better before the update.
I have the r8, r7 and v1v2 and they are all top notch and do the job
Thank you for testing this update. I did the firmware update and regret it. Everyone complains about slow response time but the biggest advantage to this detector is hardly any falses in my area. That was the thing i liked about this detector. Save me when im doing 10-12 over. Dont make noise. New update, I see ka rear falses now. Not good, i want to roll back to 1.4
Thanks for your testing
Ok, updated firmware on my R8 AND downloaded R8 Companion on my iPhone… THIS is the way to go. I used to prefer my 360C because of better filtering, now I prefer the R8. I am loving this set up with the Companion. I have had both detectors for a couple of years and I used to prefer the 360C… no longer by a long shot.
Don't worry Theia will be out anytime now
Keep dreaming, the R8W you mean*
Amen
The more time goes on, the more I think Jon @ Radenso was nothing more than a modern day snake oil salesman. Lucky for him, he was able to use covid as an excuse. He disappeared from the detector scene and rightfully so.
I am glad I went with the Uniden platforms in my cars I have 2 R7s and 1 R3 that have been rock solid for years now.
I have a R4 I was just wondering if the R4 was any better than the 3 ? I got it at Sam’s club for like $280
@marklloyd4153 yeah the R4 has better range and more advanced filtering capabilities than the R3. I think it can also identify the type of radar gun that is shooting at you.
Thanks . I bought it because of the price but didn't know how good or bad it was . I think its more than i need but perfect pricefor my wallet @@lookalikehuuh
Thank you very much for your honesty which is rare as an influencer or reviewer. I'm in the market for a flagship radar detector after years of not having one and was going with the red line until your past few videos and form post. Thank you guys for your hard work
Wow. What's going on with Redline? Happy with my Uniden R7.
Old redline from 2014 still doing the job for me 😊
Greetings from New Zealand Brother you are MAGIC
What people don't understand is that many gun manufacturers use automated instant on timing, which can be as low as a half second burst. This will allow an officer to get reading without any warning at the detector. I believe escort reduction of false alarms was simply done by slowing down their reaction times, at the users expense.
Instant on is definitely a threat, but what i have typically experienced, is that cops soon tire of having to to interact with it, and just leave it set to constant on. Instant on warnings are going to result in a ticket, if theyre targeting your car, more often than not, regardless of which detector youre running. For this reason, i prefer range, in hopes of a warning when theyre targeting a target in front of me.
I agree, I was driving down I75 North in Michigan today and police were using some type of hand held gun it wasn't Laser, I don't think although I could be wrong.. but the detector never alerted... and I updated 3 days ago..
I was waiting for this video and hoped it would be positive... I guess I have been lucky driving these highways.
I understand the need for filtering with all of the BSM out there but we should be IMPROVING! My old OG redline in the closet could catch .2 second shots all day long and yet here we are dealing with this on far more advanced detectors with much faster processors. I’ll just keep rocking my ALP with the netradar DSP. It’s still serving me well so far
Prices on some of the detectors are getting out of hand. Still enjoy my V1. Another idea is watch your speed, maybe I am getting to old to drive like a bat out of hell.😊
Just thinking yesterday that I might give escort a shot when it comes time for my next detector. Now I know not to. Uniden ftw
R7 with IF for the win
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I have been waiting a long time to upgrade my detectors, and I really wanted the Redline 360C, but it looks like even after all this time Escort can't make it it work right. I'm pretty close to just buying a bunch of Uniden R8s.
Yep, I got a ticket a month ago because of response time. I actually thought it was an issue with the detector and I paid escort 150 bucks and sent it in for repair. But it still is the same. I purchased an R8 right after.
Love the honesty 🤟🏼
Looks like the uniden is the best one to get correct?
Great review. Appreciate it. Keep up the great work.
Glad your honest with the testing and not sugar coated. Hopefully next time, you would include other radar detectors to compare and yeah, I'm sure other folks that own Escort are not to happy. Personally I would be freaking p*sssed.
Yeah I’ll run some other detectors next time. I ran out of cameras lol. These types of tests are very tedious to process behind the scenes. Here’s a BTS look at the process: www.rdforum.org/threads/141712/post-1945994
I manually mark every moment each detector goes off and then run the math for the elapsed time of each alert.
Your lost for words at the end of this video says it all exactly how im feeling with Escort. Will not buy another product from escort ever again. Theyre going to have to move mountains for others to get the trust back
I got a redline 360c back when they first came out. Was so excited. After just getting my wife a uniden R7. Needless to say I was sorely disappointed that hers at less than half the cost of mine, was better in every way.
Add also the fact that hers now 4 years later has only gotten better and never had any issues. While my crappy escort has gone through 2 (very expensive BTW) power adapters, and the screen is so burned in its useless.
Her R7 screen is still like new and her power adapter has never failed. Escort is the Apple of the radar detector world and I mean that in the worst way possible.
Not repairable, parts (screen) not available for purchase, and essential parts like the power adapter are built to fail and cost 5x what their competitors charge. This was my first and absolutely last escort product. I'll be replacing it with something better (and more affordable) as soon as I can. I feel like a fool for overpaying so much for what is essentially a garbage paperweight. Escort should be ashamed to charge so much for garbage like this.
Same boat I was a escort fanatic so I wanted the best of the best they had to offer totally regret my Redline 360c. Will be buying Uniden r8 and not look back. Escort is straight trash
I agree with you! Every time my redline 360c gets an update, it gets worst.
Escort is junk. I travel the country and have been running radar detectors for 20 years and have never received a ticket. Decided to try Escort over my R8 and got pulled over for the first time ever totally due to the delay. Additionally, the unit constantly locks up or the audio decides not to work. So I have to babysit it by always checking to see if the scanning bar is moving and bumping the volume occasionally. Reboots fix it. Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous! I tried two different units. Also get a ton of false Ka alerts, but none with the R8 in the same areas. Running two R8s, two R4s and one R7 across my vehicle fleet. Never an issue with Uniden. Very dependable and the ramp ups are excellent. We have to be able to depend on these things and I can 100% confirm you CANNOT trust Escort… Threw the Escort in the trash where it belongs. I still have my original 20yo detector that works better than this new Escort, no joke. Have run Valentines too and would put them second to the Unidens.
I’ve had redline 360c got a little better with second firm wear update.EXPECTED MORE .the best detectore I should’ve got rid of was my BELLTRONICS STI DRIVER THAT ONE WAS AWSOME
Definitely felt like i got bit in the a$$ for trying something new with the Redline (had the V1G1 for 10yrs prior). Wish I just went with the V1G2. Thanks for all your testing. I hope Escort will respond to this. Embarrasing for a flagship detector.
You make radar detectors interesting
Escort has a huge problem im disappointed as well spending 799 on a detector that doesn't detect 😢😢
Damn this is upsetting. I’ve been waiting for the redline to be worth it for a long time now.
I used to have an r4 and it was the worst experience ever. I drove past several police with their radar guns pointing right at me and not a peep but it alerted to every single Mazda on the road. I don’t want to try an r8 as it’s the same hardware. Guess I’ll keep waiting
I love escorts marketing when they release these detectors say they set the bar when these are the biggest pieces of shit ever. I'm so disappointed. There should be a class action lawsuit.
Oh my gosh. 😢
Can you retest the Uniden R4? I feel like my R4 actually isn't as responsive as my almost 7 year old DFR7. I've been meaning to throw them up side by side on my windshield, but haven't gotten around to it. I do have some mildly challenging terrain in Northern KY, but it's not THAT challenging.
Now granted.... KSP in Northern KY love the instant on game, which is the whole reason I bought the R4. But all the time I feel like my DFR7 did a better job. And oddly enough, those same KSP officers love to use KA POP. According to the R4 anyways. I did swap from KA narrow to segmentation, but living in one state and working in another, means there's only 2 segments I DON'T use. However, I did see a marginal bump in performance on the KA band, but it really wasn't much.
That being said, I really do love my R4 with all the features it has. K band falses really aren't much of a thing for me with the R4, and most Sherriff's in my area use K band. So that's really saying something.
I would like to know when comparing the escort red line 360C to the uniden R8/R9, just how big a gap is there between performance ? if you had to rate both units from 1 to 10, how would they score ? are they a mile apart, or closer than you might think🤔
I was coming through bend oregon last weekend with my redline 360 c last weekend. I have it set to highway but anyway I passed a cop on the oncoming lane and I was surprised my detector wasn't going off because there was two cops one in northbound and one in southbound lanes about 500 yards apart from eachother and my alarm wasn't going off at all. As I was heading south I decided to slow down just in case and what's crazy is there was a cop and he had his radar looking gun out the window and on his window sill and shooting my way and the detector was silent the whole time. I'm wondering if ya could help me with my settings maybe it's an error on my end but I thought I set it to your recommended settings when I got it. But now that I see this video I'm curious now.
Chances are they were running instant on or laser. It's very common with a variety of detectors to pass by officers without getting an alert, especially given that these are radar detectors and not police car detectors.
That just happened to me today on I75 North in Michigan
Go ahead and say it the V1gen2 with latest update is a beast
I feel like my Redline was running smoother and quitter before the update. But I've only had it for like 2 months.
This is exactly why I ditched my Redline 360c. I was hardcore Escort for nearly 20 years. I was so disappointed in the Redline 360c and then a firmware update caused my arrows to be reversed. They wanted me to pay an extra 250 to correct it. Nah, I am good. I went to the R8 and have not looked back. Couldn't be happier. Escort is a joke now as is their customer service. They clearly have become money hungry and a little to confident in themselves. IMO they could care less about their consumers. Another example of corporate greed.
The only Escort that was worth a darn was the one Mike helped develop when he was at Cincinnati Microwave. The others have been chasing V1 quality and reliability. Those of you remember the old Fuzzbuster, I guess I am telling my age 😅.
An escort radar detector that costs twice as much or 10x as much as my max 3 and radar detector enthusiasts are posting results that are a literal insult to the industry. I'll stick to my max 3 thank you very much
Uniden needs to be put in the hot seat as well for releasing 1.51 and 1.34, which both have the GPS bug that 1.47 had. Those idiots didn't listen to Mithheru!
I was about to get the redline but now will hold off until they fix those issues.
It was on sale on amazon $711 earlier. Now its $715. Fyi reg price is $799.
Yeah, strange that it wasn't on sale during Prime Day though.
Don't buy the redline 360c it's trash. I regret my purchase
Id love to see escort's development and QA testing cycle, all that PE money backing and they continue to be less than mediocre yet asking for high quality pricing...they haven't made anything confidently sustainable from a software and hardware standpoint since the OG Redline....i dont think they ever will
Classic Escort performance! Lots of $$$ not a lot of performance. Unfortunately Escort is one of those brands where if you don't know about detectors you'd think there good. i have purchased a R8, V1G2, and a Radenso DS1 based off your tests. Never will Escort get another dollar from me after all the tickets i got from their slow detectors.
Still using my R3 with the newest firmware. Still ok for me in Florida.
I had the older redline escort and it was a great detector..!!! Until it just stopped working.!!! Then I bought the new redline 360c and it lets me know when there’s a Photo speed camera… but I don’t know if I don’t have it set up correctly but it doesn’t seem to inform me of any Radars at all… it seems to flash its warning lights but I’ve yet to hear it give me a Warning Signal….
How many years has the new Redline 360c been out now? Way too long for it not to be operating like a pro with its high price tag attached to it. Thanks for the update!
Big surprise, software from Escort is disappointing.
I have a Max 360C MkII, and I've had a lot of problems having it "mute" K bands. That thing where it shows K band and it's strength, but it's grayed out and silent. It's a bit of a problem for me because the local PD in my town run K, and the Sheriff's and Troopers run KA.
Those are the GPS lockouts. It’s supposed to do that for fixed stationary false alerts from speed signs and door openers while still alerting to new moving signals like police officers.
@@VortexRadar Oh yeah, that's right. It's still surprising that it locks out those alerts when the police are stationary. I try to manually "unlock" it, but that doesn't seem to always work.
When stuff like this happens I always wonder how the product gets through the software/integration testing before being released - surely some product lead/manager had to have signed off that testing completed satisfactorily and it's ready for release, right? This update's gross performance screams that the testing was possibly limited to "does the firmware still boot up?"
R8 FOR THE WIN!!!!
No
@@LITTLEROCK2517NO WHAT?R8 does not have this shitty problems like the r360c
Check the rd forums you will see R8 is KING!!!!!
@@LITTLEROCK2517 Cry more valentine fangirl. 🤡🤡
@@ar_2015 ma'am, i run a R7 with
international firmware. better than the R8
So buying my R7 the other day was a good choice 😮💨
I have the 360c and the R8... I switch them out periodically. Getting ready to go back to R8. updates for Redline seems to be giving me more KA false alerts.
Also, my R8 is behind on updates - my current version is 125.104.116.
Do you have to update the R8 with EACH new firmware version, or can I just update the latest version?
Just got my second Escort, this time the 360C. The cord rubber started disintegrating after only one use (~5hr drive). Now the detector stopped booting up. Was told via chat to press the SRC button a bunch upon initial startup but did not solve problem. Guess i need to return it.. Shipping is so slow from them, as my new cord took 2+ weeks to receive. Super frustrating.
Escort always have been a problem. They expect you to pay a premium Price. And they give you Junk. 900.00 wasted. Never buy from them anymore. I don't..
Escort hasnt been good since the advent of the Max. Still boggles my mind that Escort put a sub par antenna with their first digital rd. Should've stuck the M3 platform.
Id love to see a new S7+ rd down the line.
I've just purchased RL360c international version, and still have 3 other cars need devices,do you recommend to buy same or wait for an Escort new release probably ? Many thanks
Do you have any idea why my 360 no longer will show the direction of the radar source as anything but ahead. meaning, it will not show the signal as coming from the rear nor sides. I purchased in 2023 and recently tried a firmware update, but it seams updated. BTW, the other direction arrows worked early on. Thanks
Am I understanding this right. When creating a profile for the V1G2. Just because I do "2,4,5,6,8" it doesn't improve performance as the unit still scans all frequencies? It just only alerts to frequencies within the custom "sweeps"?
If so there's not much point in creating the profile as there are very few KA falses (where I live anyways)
Right on the Gen 2 it’s just for knocking out false alerts. There’s no performance difference.
ETA for the next update on the redline?
Sad for escort been way to long for this nonsense to keep happening
Escort has a habit of the "all or nothing" detection behavior WAY back to the Original Max. I have the Max 360 MKII and it's more of the same, Uniden and Valentine have ramp up that is light years better than Escort.
How do you think that Cobra rad 700i would compare up to these results. Because I know I got the Cobra rad 700I, and when I'm driving around, it seems to be pretty quiet and when it goes off, it seems to pick up the cops very quickly.
And I normally get pretty good range out of it.
And I forgot to mention I figured there would be more test results with this type of radar detector because didn't escort go in with Cobra when they made this so. Technically, it's somewhat considered an escort detector.
It’s been less than 30 days since I’ve had my redline 360c and I think I’m gunna get the refund from them my og redline from the stone ages was more responsive just with more falses. So what’s the best now for average consumer the R8 ?
I have the V1G2 and the RL360C. I've been using the V1G2 even though I find the settings confusing. Better mounts and lighter. The only thing I dislike is having to use a smartphone with it. It's ridiculous in this day and age. Annoying.
Well, I had escort Max 360 Mkll and I changed to escort Max CAM 360 and now I have escort Red line 360 and I don't see any difference until now only the surveillance cameras at the traffic lights and cameras that are nearby detect me, but what we want it to detect, it doesn't detect it. I feel cold when I look at the enemy on the road and it doesn't detect it?🚓😢
My detector performance got worse. I tested 35.5Ka and seen no improvement. I tested 34.7KA and found it would no longer react to instant on. Before I could pickup the computer assit short burst. My Redline would show 1 bar and a short chirp. Now nothing. If Escort doesn't fix this soon, I'm going to use the R8 full time.
Yikes, that’s not good. It should alert to 34.7. Are you sure you’re not overdriving the detector by chance?
No. I have the detector 500ft from the car with the Stalker DSR 2X. I give 2 minutes between each shots. This gives the Redline time to cycle.
Something is definitely wrong with my Redline. This morning it kept telling me over speed. This option is not an option I have activated. Plus the display is flashing. I want the old software back.
For the redline, was there a specific software push that caused these detectors to degrade??!!
Gonna be going to the R9 and getting rid of my Redline 360c I think...
Based on your experience with the Escort blackfinn radar testing would you recommend the max for as far as potentially being more responsive?
Which Max? There’s a bunch of detectors with Max in the name and most of them also use Blackfins.
@@VortexRadar Sorry. The Max 4
Where is that evil Genesis II radar found? What states?
So if I can live with BSM falsing and no municipal photo...my antique first generation Redline is still a front runner?
It works well as a Ka only detector. No BSM filtering, lockouts, or photo radar detection.
Uniden R8 on top
So I should hold
Onto my V1G2 then it sounds like
This is a request to review Redtiger car dash cams. I know you love VIOFO🌝
Fake 4K dashcam, but it sells well
I just got hit last week with my redline 360c and I’m pissed, It didn’t even light up until I blew past the state trooper. I got hit for going 10 over. its going back for a refund
One VERY salient question here that hasn't been asked or clarified on this review... are these reductions in performance, these failures, if you will, are they assessments after just the first of the recent updates? Or are these assessments being made after the most recent TWO updates have been uploaded? I ask because based on the timing of the review and when you said you tested the Redline 360c, it appears that this review only accounts for the "first" recent update from just over a week ago, and does NOT account for the recent update of about 2 days ago. Please clarify. Thank you!!!
The update came out and I released a video going over the changes. Then I tested the response time of the detector and released a second video going over test results. Due to failures with my original Redline, I wasn’t able to properly test the changes before the firmware update was publicly released.
Understood and thank you for the clarification. As you said in your recent video release, Escort results disappointing at the moment and it is NOT a big ask that their flagship be effective, responsive, and worth the price. Hopefully we will very soon see improvements.