I look at The Plague essentially as a prayer.... prayer for collective action in the face of overwhelming tragedy/ calamity. There is no short cut... except confronting it... Struggle..The Dr. Reus shows the way... and Tarrou joins him in this struggle.
its any date when the war was then and there. that's one of my opinions. funny though, but yeah, he doesn't want you reading it against specific events of WWII maybe.
@@taylorlayton5095 Still, it seems a very odd designation. There is character and plot development. Attention to setting and events but no specified year.
@@soslothful it is odd indeed. Don't know if I've seen it elsewhere. Still, war was fairly absent - no talk of soldiers, campaign, widows, changes in supply lines, etc. Much odd in this novel, but I love it! Just finished for a book club.
@@taylorlayton5095 It is indeed a good novel, especially for all that is going on currently. I wonder if not specifying the year is a literary convention of the time the novel was written. Much like the convention of using, "one." As is a sentence like, One John Doe. Where "one " just designates an individual.
Ivo Plsek In Defence of Professor Chafe On the contrary, I thought that the learned man answered each question put forth with precision, intelligence and relevance; both eloquent and thoughtful in his responses. Not once did I sense the slightest suggestion of a pedantic bearing or scholastic arrogance; pray, enlighten me of any such instance by alluding to the actual moment/s if I had missed missed these. Ironically, on two ocassions, he acknowledged his shortcomings as a literary expert. Professor Chafe is, in the final analysis, an distinguished and internationally respected scholar whose admirable attribute, among other things, is his enduring humility.
get a new setup i feel like this is the 80's grreat information though, and good points, it actually helped me on a paper, william chafe is a very interesting man, kinda wish my mind worked like that!
I do not believe "community of faith" is an accurate description. Camus prizes sacrifice as the highest moral Principle. In some of his writings he uses the term sacred. Obviously the same root as sacrifice. It shows that 1 can be courageous without a deity or a transcendent power. It shows the courage and strength of a mature human being. Faith and believe usually point to constructs that are stories. But human action is real and can be seem, objectively. Albert Camus believes in the power and strength of humanity. It says to me that we underestimate ourselves. It also implies that we give too much power, or turn over our power to a dream called God.
Thank you for putting this up online ❤enjoyed it a lot
This is a beautiful conversation about The Plague. Thanks.
"We make too much of the differences and not enough of the parallels"
This video would’ve helped a lot of people out in 2020. Great discussion of the book.
I look at The Plague essentially as a prayer.... prayer for collective action in the face of overwhelming tragedy/ calamity. There is no short cut... except confronting it... Struggle..The Dr. Reus shows the way... and Tarrou joins him in this struggle.
who came here january 2020
March 2020...I'm late to the party
I love the book, and this discussion!
When I read the book, I thought the plague represented the life itself.
I think it does
or maybe suffering generally.
William Chafe actually seems pretty cool
Read this in 2021, dang!
Same
How come no one asked anything about Cottard?
Lol ..Cottard is still in prison.
I'm currently reading "The Plague" and curious why Camus give the date of the story's setting as, 194-. Why doesn't he cite a year?
Maybe because it just doesn't matter to him and he does not see purpose in saying a specific date?Bit of a weird concept but kinda cool
its any date when the war was then and there. that's one of my opinions. funny though, but yeah, he doesn't want you reading it against specific events of WWII maybe.
@@taylorlayton5095 Still, it seems a very odd designation. There is character and plot development. Attention to setting and events but no specified year.
@@soslothful it is odd indeed. Don't know if I've seen it elsewhere. Still, war was fairly absent - no talk of soldiers, campaign, widows, changes in supply lines, etc. Much odd in this novel, but I love it! Just finished for a book club.
@@taylorlayton5095 It is indeed a good novel, especially for all that is going on currently. I wonder if not specifying the year is a literary convention of the time the novel was written. Much like the convention of using, "one." As is a sentence like, One John Doe. Where "one " just designates an individual.
Does anyone get. the distinct feeling that Rhieux and Tarrou had more than.a Platonic relationship?
no
They were good friends
cant help it but i do not find Chafe’s comments too interesting or enlightening. To me he tries to sound more knowledgeable here than he really is.
Ivo Plsek
In Defence of Professor Chafe
On the contrary, I thought that the learned man answered each question put forth with precision, intelligence and relevance; both eloquent and thoughtful in his responses.
Not once did I sense the slightest suggestion of a pedantic bearing or scholastic arrogance; pray, enlighten me of any such instance by alluding to the actual moment/s if I had missed missed these. Ironically, on two ocassions, he acknowledged his shortcomings as a literary expert.
Professor Chafe is, in the final analysis, an distinguished and internationally respected scholar whose admirable attribute, among other things, is his enduring humility.
Sir what is wrong with your jackets? I mean jackets
I mentioned you in an instagram post. Hope you don't mind. It's precisely about this book. @tellmewhatyou'rereading
24:43 he is so lost he says the same thing he said five minutes ago hahaha
get a new setup i feel like this is the 80's grreat information though, and good points, it actually helped me on a paper, william chafe is a very interesting man, kinda wish my mind worked like that!
MrWellingtonInc I like the 80s
haha who's getting a hair cut at 38:20
There are traces of Nietzsche... Suffering must be confronted.. and Dostoyevsky's Ivan 8n Brother's Karamazov...
46:55
@MrWellingtonInc Hahaha, 80's
Dang, he really ruined his credibility with me when he quoted Thomas Friedman. Yikes dude. That's cringe
I do not believe "community of faith" is an accurate description. Camus prizes sacrifice as the highest moral Principle. In some of his writings he uses the term sacred. Obviously the same root as sacrifice. It shows that 1 can be courageous without a deity or a transcendent power. It shows the courage and strength of a mature human being. Faith and believe usually point to constructs that are stories. But human action is real and can be seem, objectively. Albert Camus believes in the power and strength of humanity. It says to me that we underestimate ourselves. It also implies that we give too much power, or turn over our power to a dream called God.
Very dry and dull conversation. No oooh laa laa at all !
Bad analysis, bad analogies. You are so far from understanding Camu it is better you don't give such talks
This is a pathetic Interview, bringing religion into existentialism, and can clearly see this man really struggling to speak ,I feel sorry for him