Forgot to mention, hospital fees for blood test + MRI cost about $60 usd. In the UK its “free”, but you lose time. My step dad is self employed so he’d lose money from not working. So it’s not necessarily free.. International hospitals in China would probably be double this fee, best to go to public ones!
Ontario, Canada: Typical Hospital car parking costs $5/30 minutes, maximum $30/day (no in/out privileges) Car parking cost not refunded by hospital, like NHS in UK
I was misdiagnosed in my country and has to ensure six months of chronic pain (I couldn’t be put on long-term pain medication, so four months wet pain medication free) before they finally did an MRI scan. The weirdest thing was it started with pain in my neck, then I was booked in for physio therapy which resulted in the pain shifting to my face and head. Turned out has an infection in the bones and soft tissues in my face. Anyway I was able to get that sorted after it was confirmed by MRI. A correct diagnosis is the most important step in healing. Wishing your stepdad a quick healing and recovery.
@JohnThomas-x7q 0 seconds ago No, there is an alternative to surgery. A chiropractor should be able to help Stuart. Just show the chiropractor the MRI / X-ray. Dealing with the central nervous system and the spine is their specialty. I used to have lower back injury that affected my movements too. If I am not mistaken, they also affected the Coccyx L4 and L5 vertebrae with the consequence that I was not able to properly lift my left foot when I was walking ..... I had to drag my left foot. A chiropractor helped to fix that up and I haven't had any serious problem ever since. At least check with a chiropractor before opting for that surgery. Good luck !
I have been working in China now for 17 years, and of course have the medical insurance you must have if you are working. I had two major medical procedures so far. 2 Stents and 1 major hemroid surgerys. Both where done perfectly and with no side effects, both involved me also staying a minimum of 1 week in a private room in the hospital. Both together involved only a cop payment of 200 usd. Both where done within 1 week of first visiting the hospital, mostly because I use Aspirin and they did not want to do surgeries with blood thinners in my system. It was awesome. Now I understand that due to me being a westerner I may have received a little more attention then others, but even with this I can say its awesome healthcare.
I live in Canada where healthcare is free but I know Chinese people here who have unusual medical problems would go back to China for diagnosis and treatment because in a country of 1.4 billion the doctors there have seen it all no matter how rare the issue.
Amazing You people sit in your countries HATING and looking down on others... ONLY to find out THEY'RE Way ahead of you. Not robbing you, Not need to treat you like Animals... Will you all look into Yourselves and start Treating others with respect
When my wife had a severe headache in China we went to emergency. Within one evening, she saw the GP, had a CT scan, saw the specialist and got the results.
My mom got heart attack in a small city in China, the doctor went back to hospital at midnight just for the surgery of my mom , and everything was super smooth, after finished surgery, almost 4am ,I am so grateful
I’m so glad they got to the bottom of the problem in the hospital in Shanghai. I also hope your step dad gets the treatment he needs in a timely way. Perhaps your family can consider having him extend his trip to have surgery over in Shanghai if appropriate. All the best Luke. Keep telling it as things really are in China. You’re doing all of us a service by providing a balanced “on the ground” view.
My daughter was born in the UK, and she started to have reflux since 1-yr old. We went to the GP many times, but they couldn't find the problem. She suffered for 2+ years (and so did us because she kept waking up several times during the night due to reflux) before the GP decided to refer her to a specialist. We waited for MONTHS. Finally, after 6+ months when we were already in China, we got a phone call from them asking us to BOOK an appointment. After we arrived in China, we went directly to the hospital. The doctor did blood tests for her and told us it was because of ALLERGY of flour, milk, or eggs! Guess what, reflux has gone for years now since she avoided flour!
China last year announced that it has started production of domestic MRI machines. This will further bring down the cost of treatment and make high quality medical care available to more people.
I have seen New Zealanders come to China for dental treatments. They said the treatments were very efficient, and prizes also bargain. Therefore, perhaps China may develop medical health treatment businesses.
Pretty sure medical "tourism" is already a thing in China. Probably not as big as the business is in Thailand or Malaysia though (perception matters a lot still in patients seeking medical care and you know how smeared China is overseas)
The procedure for treatment is called Vertebroplasty. It should not be expensive in China even out of pocket. Recovery time is very short also. So if your stepdad finds wait time in UK is too long, I recommend scheduling the procedure in China. You can also check Hainan, they are trying to set up the island for medical tourism.
@@livinlavidaluke Aboust 5k USD for the whole hospitalization. Here in the US it would be 50k just for the procedure, more for post op care and hospitalization. I suggest calling the doc your dad saw and ask him about surgical referral and cost. Since he already saw him and they have the MRI. Your dad wouldn't waste any time on the second trip.
@@livinlavidaluke Yes, I agree and more importantly, the PAIN relief! It must be terrible for anyone and his family (let alone an elderly) to live with this chronic pain 24/7 and the negative impact on the quality of life cannot be overstated too. Good luck for your family's search for an effective treatment!
@@livinlavidaluke $2000-$4000 depends on the condition, the advantage of having surgery in China is that the doctors are very skilled, they perform dozens of such operations a week.
A few years back, 2018 i think, i was in Xining, QH province in China--- a bottom ranked province in economical development. I wasn't feeling well so i went to a big hospital, got to see the doctor, checked blood, and went out with proper medicine. The whole thing cost me less than 200 RMB in total, in less than 1 HOUR. I was pretty shocked, as someone who lived in Canada for almost 20 years.
because Chinese hospitals treat many many many more patients per day than in the west, doctors get 10 times more experience. Most diagnosis in Chinese hospital is given within 1 hour, but in the west you have to wait for appointment which often is weeks if not months away.
A 28-year-old student nurse, Zoe Bell, died of sepsis after waiting for approximately 12 hours in the Accident and Emergency (A&E) department at her own hospital, Stoke Mandeville Hospital, on Christmas Eve, 2022. According to reports, Zoe had been working long shifts over the weekend to help finance her studies and felt “run down” afterwards. She presented to A&E with severe chest pains and coughed up blood, but despite being checked by nurses and receiving some medical attention, her condition continued to deteriorate. Doctors triaged her dismissed her case as laryngitis when she was coughing up blood. That's UK NHS for you.
It's a pity that your stepdad could not stay in China long enough for the surgery. But as far as I know, foreigners are eligible to seek treatment and get the surgery done if they apply to the relevant government departments of China for medical visas. I am not 100% sure but you can check it up.
03:07 -- top right-hand corner, "United Imaging". That's an America MRI machine, in China, examining Chinese patients affordably. While in America, American patients are facing long queues to get proper healthcare. *It's a crying shame*
@@livinlavidaluke I stand corrected. UIH was founded in 2011 by Xue Min and Zhang Qiang who were former of employees of Siemens.[2][3] The Shanghai Municipal People's Government and Chinese Academy of Sciences helped establish the company as well as provide funding for it to develop.[4] The Shanghai government is considered the controlling shareholder of UIH as it has majority ownership through indirect holdings.[4] In 2013, UIH established its American Research and development center in Houston. In 2018, Houston became its regional headquarters when UIH entered the North American market by attending the Radiological Society of North America's annual meeting.[3][4]
I live in NYC. Recently, a front tooth chipped. I went to a dentist to see if I could get it fixed. The dentist told me for the tooth to be aligned with other teeth, I needed a whole mouth construction meaning all front teeth needed to be crowned which would cost thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. It is not a medical treatment. It is a FRAUD.
Herniated disc or disc bulges are common degenerative problems. Your stepfather can take physical therapy first, and take medicines or injections for inflammation before doing a surgery. That's how I manage my cervical herniated discs, and more and more, I feel like I may not need a survey. I'll see what my next MRI report says. Good luck!
Yes I agree , the medical services and medical equipment is excellent, the doctors are very experienced ( with 1.4B ppl they def don’t lack case experience), and even tho I go to a private hospital, it’s not expensive if you pay for their 1 yr membership which is about US700 which makes everything 50% off and a couple free consultations. Very impressive indeed.
from Canada, last week my family doctor office told me they have a booking for my MRI, it's booked for the March of next year at the earliest....it's more than 5 month wait, but also it's on the basis that I have to agree i would have the sugery if they found out anything from the scan...otherwise they can't book the MRI appointment
Dude, if your parents are still in China then you might want to try find a good and reputable traditional Chinese doctor to do acupuncture, tui na, moxibustion etc. My herniated disc was so much worse than your stepdad's, based on what I could see on the MRI. I was also recommended surgery after physiotherapy didn't work. I didn't choose that option, In the end it was months and months of traditional Chinese medicine treatments that get me better
@@fridericusrex9812 Yes. Ever been to Taiwan 🇹🇼? Nothing like what you see in media. Except it has free wifi in Taipei. Apart from that all the infrastructures are in shambles sa most of the manufacturing has moved to China and Vietnam.
@@wl82 No it's not. But it's occupied by rebels. China does not want to shed blood unnecessarily so it is waiting for the people to see sense. Just like Hong Kong which China could have taken long before 1996, but waited patiently for UK to see sense.
A wonderful programme telling a positive tale about PRC instead of the Sinophobic crud from MSM. You deserve to succeed. Hope things work out for your stepdad.
you should do surgery in China, I had friends same issue, some did it in Canada, some in China, and ones in China had way better feed backs. they have more experience there.
Totally different culture and attitude towards its people technology is available,and its used to benefit the people. Plus the Chinese population doesn't eat trash there entire life and then run to the doctor to fix them.
Doctors in China suggest me to take biologics for my Crohn's Disease (chronic immune disease) and they tell me if you ever come back, you can take the biologics right away, and they can arrange it the same day, But I have to come back to Canada just like the elder in this video, and now I need wait 2+ months to just see my booked doctor for my Crohn's disease, and they want me to redo a colonoscopy which I just did 2 months ago and I refuse to do so since it is too risky doing that too often. (I already diagnosed CD) I done 3 times in a year... Frustration happens when you can do nothing about it. I can say China has the world best healthcare system.
My daughter studied in the uk and paid compulsory health insurance. When she caught a cold and was very unwell, what she received was just a glass of honey water from the school nurse and managed to sleep in the sick room and that's all. When we asked for medicines, the nurse came back that medicines were controlled in the country..
The problem with the health care in the us is everyone has to get a cut, and everyones "cut" asking price is too much. An MRI scan is 3000 no questions asked
You should get a digital copy of the MRI results and take it back to the UK. At the very least you can see if there's any change if you get another in the UK
hey mate. if it's a degenerative spine issue esp with the L4 L5 S1, you can try Osteos (or Chiro's, depending on where you are). Those may be quick (like, done in 5 mins), but when it's done every 2 to 3 days for 4 to 5 times consecutively, it can help your dad a LOT. There are chinese options too, but from what i know, the capable ones are in Beijing. But you can always Baidu and check out the reviews. To us bonesetting practitioners, it's nothing new and we do it all the time, AND we see results =) Hope this helps!
UK is allowing uncontrolled immigration, overloading the hospitals. China have tightly controlled borders, and put China first. If you voted Labour, you got what you voted for.
Yes, for many years my local GP surgery had 8-9 doctors registered there but only 2 or so would actually be at work each day. They claim to open 5½ days a week, yet you need to call at 8am exactly on the dot, any minute less and you will be told there are no more doctor's appointment for that day. The appointment are almost always in the morning. If you get an appointment in the afternoon, there are very few people in the waiting room like doctors don't seem to work in the afternoon. Also nobody ever gets seen on Saturday morning and of course never on Sunday. Many of the senior doctors never ever turned up for work leaving only young inexperienced doctors to see patients in the morning. I was there a lot back then because my children were young at the nursery which was a hotbed of illnesses and they often fell sick.
@@rinzler9775 No, you need to remember that China has a population of 1.4 billion. Equivalent to the entire population of Europe and the United States. The illegal immigration you face is only equivalent to inter-provincial medical treatment in China. The more developed a province, the more people will seek medical treatment. And we don't have such a problem. Even the most crowded hospitals in China only require an appointment a day or two in advance. Except for organ transplant surgeries that require waiting for a donor, routine surgeries only require an appointment and can be performed quickly.
NHS is NOT free service in the UK as more than 13.25% of salary are taken to pay the national insurance every month. On top of that, there r still 22% to 40% tax to pay
you see, the number of patients a Chinese doctor would see in one day would be more than 10 times a British doctor would see in one day, the experience and number of weird cases would be 10 more times
Never be afraid of treatment in China. I live in Guangzhou. I have stage 4 cancer and my Chinese doctors put me on targeted inhibitors. I live a relatively normal life. Each visit to the doctor costs me $1.50.
@@phildefer2342 Sure. Targeted inhibitor therapy is new medication that targets the source of the cancer if cancer has an underlying reason. For example I have a mutated V600BRAF gene which causes the quick replication of cells, which could lead to cancer wherever cells are being replicated too quickly. In this instance there is targeted inhibitor therapy for the V600BTAF mutation. The medicine nullifies the mutation and controls and even reduces the cancer caused by the mutation. No chemo- or radio-therapy needed. Unfortunately, it is very expensive ($3000 a month), and targeted inhibitors have not been developed for all types of cancer. I would suggest that you ask your oncologist if targeted inhibitors are available for your type of cancer. Good luck!!❤️
@@timmyjiang4692 A consultation is $1.50...my targeted therapy is patented and publicly available...that's not so cheap. U pay $3000 a month for the meds...
@AndreDMalan1966 thank you..we have a shot here on clinical trial which has been approved by the gov't. but not yet funded. It costs a lot of money, first month 28k then 13k dollars each month. Hopefully it will be funded soon or I get recommended by my medical oncologist based on compassionate care. You take care too❤
Bro, go to multiple hospitals, try traditional (chinese medicine) hospital and bring your scan results, I feel like some accupunture and therapy could be enough. Also Try find a hospital that specializes (or most known for) bone-related issues. As a Chinese, we tend to get the same check up from multiple hospitals and then take advice. I do not recommend taking advice from only one doctor especially if he's recommending surgery first thing. Always good to get at least a second opinion. Thats what we locals do, ask locals which hospital is known for what department, get opinion from at least two specialists and try a traditional method. We do not recommend surgery unless absolutely necessary.
In Australia, booking a simple procedure to remove endometrial polyps takes to wait 3 weeks up to a month…. I had the same procedure done in Shenzhen. It was done within a day( including ultrasound, blood test, red light therapy) The result was good.
@@fantasycelestial2908 what an interesting projection and assumption you make. No between illness, airfare, hotel money, and the fact I can access health care at home, with family and friends.. i don't need to travel. However, I find the other persons experience quite interesting and don't understand why there were so many delays with her treatment. We aren't the UK or the US, we have one of the best (but not as good as it used to be) health care systems in the world. Poops all over the US and UK that is for sure.
I have medical insurance in China, but I usually don't use it very much, because it's only 20-50 dollars to go to the hospital for common diseases, and I don't bother to apply for insurance compensation for these small money.
Is China going to disrupt Healthcare like it did with so many other areas ? We all hope so and it looks like they're making great progress . Humanity would so benefit if all these warring countries could cooperate to solve world issues like tough dieases conditions and climate change instead of antagonizing each other.
As a Shanghainese living in the UK, although I live in London, if I want to see a doctor, I have to wait at least three to four weeks for an appointment. Then, for something like a blood test, I have to schedule it two or three weeks in advance. Because of this, I almost avoid seeing a doctor in the UK. When I go back to China once a year, I get a full body check-up, get prescriptions, and see the dentist.
@@duoxingbuyibizibi5671I’m a Brit living in the UK but visit China at least once a year, was totally amazed when I went for a check up last time I was there, highly efficient and thorough service for a fraction of the cost.
With visa free entry, I would go there just to have medical checkups while getting a free vacation paid with left over money from the healthcare savings in the western countries.
There’s something to be said for a country where the health system is properly funded, so that the health professionals have time to think, and maintain an interest to keep up their knowledge because they’re not burned out, and there’s no worry that there are insurance companies or venture capitalists perpetually lobbying for parts of the system to be privatised, perpetually trying to make costs inflated, which makes it harder to fund, which makes it easier to say “hey why not privatise it and save money?”.
Go to a Chinese acupuncture doctor, he will stand up and walk right after the treatment, but you need another treatment after a few months. This is better than surgery that might take few months until he can sit. But make sure you get a good one.
In the United States, you get to wait forever. Because insurance is not free. Any doctor visit will cost your life's savings. And even with insurance, you still have to wait and pay an outrageous copay.
Well a larger part of my allergies were in my head… underwent hypnosis and psychological treatments and my allergies are down to 2-3 weeks each year from some 5 months… so please do not underestimate your mind and body… a phantom pain can be the result of years of ignored stress and a subsequent burnout … a cry to slow down…just saying
@@Ghredle at least they tell you what in your head that you need to get treatment not just say it all in your head without details. I been told by doctor like that after just do some basic blood pressure & heart beat. It my body of course i know there something wrong not like i love medicine or love doctors.
瑞金 RuiJin is good hospital. In Shanghai all 三甲 hospitals are public, just like school, all Elite are public. Growup in China, I'm always critical about PRIVATE institutions😮
not something you want to advertise about, don't want americans flying over to china for cheap medical services and taking up resources for ppl who actually live in china
Nah... The efficiency of Chinese hospitals can probably easily digest these American patients. All tests are done in a day or so. American system is totally totally broken. And you have a bunch of idiots running the healthcare system who can't even figure out how to handle 2 diff strength of medications (ye in my case). Broken system, way worse dumber labor. It's unimaginable
Yeah, for real. When China starts curing diabetes, cancer, etc, they shouldn't advertise it to the world, otherwise you will have tons of people trying to get treatment there. It will clogged up the system.
I had the same problem as you five years ago. I have bloating under my ribs on my right side which is very uncomfortable. I went to the best Western medicine hospital in China and checked everything. The doctor told me there was nothing wrong with me. But I was really, really uncomfortable. Later, I spent more than ten yuan to buy a bottle of Chinese patent medicine, and I felt better after taking it.
I have disc problems, too, they are degraded, and caused a (very) painful bunch of pinched nerves, L 2 L3 mzybe others, I believe. Went to a chiropractor trained in Pennsylvania, U.S. , a former pro basketball player (6 foot 8 inches) who got serious injuries, but got treated successfully with chiropractic. He treated me twice a day. With sometimes a day between. In the beginning I could not get out of bed without pain or patient help. Very painful. Could walk but with ferocious pain depending on the movement. Needed help getting around, including being wheeled to the bathroom in my office chair. By treatment 8 I am walking with a cane only ' just in case' I make a wrong move, but often, no cane is needed. Get in and out of bed pain free. No acetominephen needed. Can turn overduring sleep pain free and without help. I'm going for 4 more treatments, hopefully I will get even better. See if there is a decent Chiropractor in your area. It could help avoid surgery.
MRI alone in the US costs an average $1000 without insurance, though it can range between $400 ~ $4000 situational. I've done it twice for lung scans and each time was $1800.
I studied in the UK and enjoyed NHS once, it's not bad at all other than waiting for 2 hours, which is okay and acceptable. They also managed to call back to check up on me so I was really grateful for the NHS. Here in China, we also have a heavily gov subsidised health care system that allows many people to be able to receive care easily. Much like the transformation of the country, China's health care system also received tremendous improvement. I now don't feel the pressure for having to wait and can go easily.
@@Zerpentsa6598 it's really a pity they don't keep it in a good shape. Back then I remember there was a famous youtube video from the Brits appreciating the NHS against American when hearing how much it cost to have a baby in the States. Rather amusing reactions.
well, vets are usually more expensive than human doctors, even in hong Kong.. As we all know, our dogs and cats are way more valuable and in higher positions than us.
The hospitals in Europe just get worse and worse.. I got giardia, it's a troublesome parasite when I was in Nepal.. I got really sick and lost 12kg in 2 weeks.. after 5 weeks I was able to get to Thailand, well there at the hospital, it took 6 hours to take ALL the tests, send to the lab and get answers and the right medicine.. Now it took 6 months to get rid of the parasite so well at home in Sweden I needed more medicine.. But it wasn't possible to just get more medicine altho I had all the papers.. So new tests were to be taken and it took 14 days before I got my medicine
So would a UK hospital actually acknowledge the MRI result from China? Imagine going back, knowing exactly what it is but then having to wait another 6 weeks so you can have the exact same tests to validate what you already know.
$10,000 added to US GDP COUNT. Health Service account to 17% OF US GDP. Easy to understand why there are so many poor people in so called rich countries with high gdp
@@FAFORednickincell Just the MRI and visit I think. It seems to depends because some sources say its only 500 but others say it is like 12,000 for some MRIs.
@@cookiesareyum1043 You might be interested in this I was watching a documentary some westerner who had come back to the poorest village in China 1 year later As he walks in on a Poverty Alleviation Senior Social worker berating 5 or 6 Poverty Alleviation social workers because a deadline was fast approaching and they had a quotas to meet getting people in the village above a poverty line or they all including this Senior Social worker would get demoted/fired Where they for example had to make sure the villagers were signed up for some State healthcare plan where the State paid 95% of the bills Then this guys follows one social worker as he shows him the newly paved roads and new houses and the donated furnishings in a home Even with all that you could get a sense of fear and worry in this guy demeanour. As we find out he was some Government banking official who was demoted to this job And the only way you move back up is to meet your deadlines and quotas Is this a better system than we have in the west? Depends on if our Government is willing to build roads and houses for people with little expected return. And put peoples jobs on the line to get those results Type into a UA-cam Search “Revisiting China's poorest village”
It may work for upper body discs but not the lower ones. I have a ruptured disc in my neck more than 20 years ago, I did not do the surgery. I'm doing fine.
I've health care in both Canada and Taiwan... I live in Canada and only go back to Taiwan once a year. Guess what I do for the few weeks I stay in Taiwan. I book myself to hospitals, health checkups, therapies, eye exams, dental office, anything you can think of. I can get much more done in a couple of weeks in Taiwan than the 11 month that I live in Canada. The health care is free in Canada but it's definitely crappy. However, compare to the utter ridiculousness they have in the USA, I guess I shouldn't complain that much....
I lived in taiwan for a year(my wife is tw) and now we live in china, we both lived in canada for 2-3 decades before that, and definitely healthcare way better in taiwan and china, and I hear in other south east asian countries than they are back home.
Ruijin Hospital is amazing. Back in 2012, one of my students got a broken neck and was treated in Ruijin Hospital. To my relief and surprise, he recovered completely! A friend also had ACL surgery there with good results and no complications.
So efficient and fast results and recommended solutions in China! In the US just waiting for blood work results it would takes a few days, appointments probably took weeks or months to see the doctor as well. And if you don’t have insurance the costs is you don’t want to know, it’s a nightmare. With insurance it’s not free either.
Forgot to mention, hospital fees for blood test + MRI cost about $60 usd.
In the UK its “free”, but you lose time. My step dad is self employed so he’d lose money from not working. So it’s not necessarily free..
International hospitals in China would probably be double this fee, best to go to public ones!
Ontario, Canada:
Typical Hospital car parking costs $5/30 minutes, maximum $30/day (no in/out privileges)
Car parking cost not refunded by hospital, like NHS in UK
@@USA-CIA-NED_ProxyDeathSquadOps Not at the NHS hopsitals my relatives go to.
You also need to add the cost of airfares and accommodations. But knowing what the real problem is worth it I guess.
I was misdiagnosed in my country and has to ensure six months of chronic pain (I couldn’t be put on long-term pain medication, so four months wet pain medication free) before they finally did an MRI scan. The weirdest thing was it started with pain in my neck, then I was booked in for physio therapy which resulted in the pain shifting to my face and head. Turned out has an infection in the bones and soft tissues in my face. Anyway I was able to get that sorted after it was confirmed by MRI. A correct diagnosis is the most important step in healing.
Wishing your stepdad a quick healing and recovery.
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No, there is an alternative to surgery. A chiropractor should be able to help Stuart. Just show the chiropractor the MRI / X-ray. Dealing with the central nervous system and the spine is their specialty. I used to have lower back injury that affected my movements too. If I am not mistaken, they also affected the Coccyx L4 and L5 vertebrae with the consequence that I was not able to properly lift my left foot when I was walking ..... I had to drag my left foot. A chiropractor helped to fix that up and I haven't had any serious problem ever since. At least check with a chiropractor before opting for that surgery. Good luck !
I have been working in China now for 17 years, and of course have the medical insurance you must have if you are working. I had two major medical procedures so far. 2 Stents and 1 major hemroid surgerys. Both where done perfectly and with no side effects, both involved me also staying a minimum of 1 week in a private room in the hospital. Both together involved only a cop payment of 200 usd. Both where done within 1 week of first visiting the hospital, mostly because I use Aspirin and they did not want to do surgeries with blood thinners in my system. It was awesome. Now I understand that due to me being a westerner I may have received a little more attention then others, but even with this I can say its awesome healthcare.
I live in Canada where healthcare is free but I know Chinese people here who have unusual medical problems would go back to China for diagnosis and treatment because in a country of 1.4 billion the doctors there have seen it all no matter how rare the issue.
Amazing You people sit in your countries HATING and looking down on others... ONLY to find out THEY'RE Way ahead of you.
Not robbing you, Not need to treat you like Animals... Will you all look into Yourselves and start Treating others with respect
They are evil by nature.
When my wife had a severe headache in China we went to emergency. Within one evening, she saw the GP, had a CT scan, saw the specialist and got the results.
My mom got heart attack in a small city in China, the doctor went back to hospital at midnight just for the surgery of my mom , and everything was super smooth, after finished surgery, almost 4am ,I am so grateful
I’m so glad they got to the bottom of the problem in the hospital in Shanghai.
I also hope your step dad gets the treatment he needs in a timely way.
Perhaps your family can consider having him extend his trip to have surgery over in Shanghai if appropriate.
All the best Luke. Keep telling it as things really are in China. You’re doing all of us a service by providing a balanced “on the ground” view.
My daughter was born in the UK, and she started to have reflux since 1-yr old. We went to the GP many times, but they couldn't find the problem. She suffered for 2+ years (and so did us because she kept waking up several times during the night due to reflux) before the GP decided to refer her to a specialist. We waited for MONTHS. Finally, after 6+ months when we were already in China, we got a phone call from them asking us to BOOK an appointment. After we arrived in China, we went directly to the hospital. The doctor did blood tests for her and told us it was because of ALLERGY of flour, milk, or eggs! Guess what, reflux has gone for years now since she avoided flour!
your baby a Chinese. She need Chinese food..
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China last year announced that it has started production of domestic MRI machines. This will further bring down the cost of treatment and make high quality medical care available to more people.
I have seen New Zealanders come to China for dental treatments. They said the treatments were very efficient, and prizes also bargain. Therefore, perhaps China may develop medical health treatment businesses.
Pretty sure medical "tourism" is already a thing in China. Probably not as big as the business is in Thailand or Malaysia though (perception matters a lot still in patients seeking medical care and you know how smeared China is overseas)
Boao Lecheng International Medical Tourism Pilot Zone in Qionghai, Hainan province.
@@edukid1984 Malaysia politics, economy and development of the country is pretty bad, but health care actually really good....
The procedure for treatment is called Vertebroplasty. It should not be expensive in China even out of pocket. Recovery time is very short also. So if your stepdad finds wait time in UK is too long, I recommend scheduling the procedure in China. You can also check Hainan, they are trying to set up the island for medical tourism.
thanks so much !! out of interest how much money should this roughly cost?
@@livinlavidaluke Aboust 5k USD for the whole hospitalization. Here in the US it would be 50k just for the procedure, more for post op care and hospitalization. I suggest calling the doc your dad saw and ask him about surgical referral and cost. Since he already saw him and they have the MRI. Your dad wouldn't waste any time on the second trip.
Ok cheers :) in uk i worry it might take 2-3 years wait for this surgery..so $5k is nothing in comparison to money and time lost if did at home
@@livinlavidaluke Yes, I agree and more importantly, the PAIN relief! It must be terrible for anyone and his family (let alone an elderly) to live with this chronic pain 24/7 and the negative impact on the quality of life cannot be overstated too.
Good luck for your family's search for an effective treatment!
@@livinlavidaluke $2000-$4000 depends on the condition, the advantage of having surgery in China is that the doctors are very skilled, they perform dozens of such operations a week.
A few years back, 2018 i think, i was in Xining, QH province in China--- a bottom ranked province in economical development. I wasn't feeling well so i went to a big hospital, got to see the doctor, checked blood, and went out with proper medicine. The whole thing cost me less than 200 RMB in total, in less than 1 HOUR. I was pretty shocked, as someone who lived in Canada for almost 20 years.
我们每天经历的日常，没想到会让你们震惊。我去你们的国家到医院看病，我也会震惊吧。我们可以相互震惊~
@@eshina8458 Opposite kind of shock. LOL!
@@eshina8458 别...兄弟，我没有每天都有去医院的经历
Yes, it is fast in China. No time to waste. So many people, so little time.
because Chinese hospitals treat many many many more patients per day than in the west, doctors get 10 times more experience. Most diagnosis in Chinese hospital is given within 1 hour, but in the west you have to wait for appointment which often is weeks if not months away.
China is a country that really worries for its citizens health, and not just populist rethorics!
👍👍👍😃Socialism with Chinese characteristics‼️ 😃👏👏👏
I was coughing more than 6 months last year and did a CT scan and blood test while on my holiday trip in China. It costed 35 euros in total
A 28-year-old student nurse, Zoe Bell, died of sepsis after waiting for approximately 12 hours in the Accident and Emergency (A&E) department at her own hospital, Stoke Mandeville Hospital, on Christmas Eve, 2022. According to reports, Zoe had been working long shifts over the weekend to help finance her studies and felt “run down” afterwards. She presented to A&E with severe chest pains and coughed up blood, but despite being checked by nurses and receiving some medical attention, her condition continued to deteriorate. Doctors triaged her dismissed her case as laryngitis when she was coughing up blood.
That's UK NHS for you.
It's a pity that your stepdad could not stay in China long enough for the surgery. But as far as I know, foreigners are eligible to seek treatment and get the surgery done if they apply to the relevant government departments of China for medical visas. I am not 100% sure but you can check it up.
03:07 -- top right-hand corner, "United Imaging". That's an America MRI machine, in China, examining Chinese patients affordably. While in America, American patients are facing long queues to get proper healthcare. *It's a crying shame*
Wrong, its a chinese MRI machine
@@livinlavidaluke I stand corrected. UIH was founded in 2011 by Xue Min and Zhang Qiang who were former of employees of Siemens.[2][3] The Shanghai Municipal People's Government and Chinese Academy of Sciences helped establish the company as well as provide funding for it to develop.[4] The Shanghai government is considered the controlling shareholder of UIH as it has majority ownership through indirect holdings.[4]
In 2013, UIH established its American Research and development center in Houston. In 2018, Houston became its regional headquarters when UIH entered the North American market by attending the Radiological Society of North America's annual meeting.[3][4]
Actually China made MRI machines started entering the market 15 to 10 years ago. United Imaging is just one brand.
Well done for helping out your folks Luke.😊
I live in NYC. Recently, a front tooth chipped. I went to a dentist to see if I could get it fixed. The dentist told me for the tooth to be aligned with other teeth, I needed a whole mouth construction meaning all front teeth needed to be crowned which would cost thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. It is not a medical treatment. It is a FRAUD.
Herniated disc or disc bulges are common degenerative problems. Your stepfather can take physical therapy first, and take medicines or injections for inflammation before doing a surgery. That's how I manage my cervical herniated discs, and more and more, I feel like I may not need a survey. I'll see what my next MRI report says. Good luck!
Yes I agree , the medical services and medical equipment is excellent, the doctors are very experienced ( with 1.4B ppl they def don’t lack case experience), and even tho I go to a private hospital, it’s not expensive if you pay for their 1 yr membership which is about US700 which makes everything 50% off and a couple free consultations. Very impressive indeed.
Hope your stepdad receives the treatment and get well soon.
from Canada, last week my family doctor office told me they have a booking for my MRI, it's booked for the March of next year at the earliest....it's more than 5 month wait, but also it's on the basis that I have to agree i would have the sugery if they found out anything from the scan...otherwise they can't book the MRI appointment
Well it seems Trudeau wants everyone dead.
难以置信
Dude, if your parents are still in China then you might want to try find a good and reputable traditional Chinese doctor to do acupuncture, tui na, moxibustion etc. My herniated disc was so much worse than your stepdad's, based on what I could see on the MRI. I was also recommended surgery after physiotherapy didn't work. I didn't choose that option, In the end it was months and months of traditional Chinese medicine treatments that get me better
Yes, he can try traditional Tui Na and Tit Tar. These may help relieve the pressure.
Hope your father stay healthy and happiness.
Thanks so much🙏
Wow nice the while process was an eye opener, hope ya step dad finds some relief for his pain. Shoutout from singapore 🇸🇬
Don’t compare China with UK. UK should be compared to Countries like US, Bangladesh, Kenya, Nigeria and Taiwan etc.
Taiwan?
@@fridericusrex9812 Yes. Ever been to Taiwan 🇹🇼? Nothing like what you see in media. Except it has free wifi in Taipei. Apart from that all the infrastructures are in shambles sa most of the manufacturing has moved to China and Vietnam.
@@sachintendulkar1094 no I haven't. That is quite surprising to hear.
Taiwan is not country. Better to call then Republic of China (RoC) if you recon.
@@wl82 No it's not. But it's occupied by rebels. China does not want to shed blood unnecessarily so it is waiting for the people to see sense. Just like Hong Kong which China could have taken long before 1996, but waited patiently for UK to see sense.
You should cancel or postpone your trip back to UK and have the surgery in China. I believe it does not cost a lot in China.
Wow very efficient & transparent
A wonderful programme telling a positive tale about PRC instead of the Sinophobic crud from MSM.
You deserve to succeed.
Hope things work out for your stepdad.
Thanks for telling about public hospitals in China.
you should do surgery in China, I had friends same issue, some did it in Canada, some in China, and ones in China had way better feed backs. they have more experience there.
Totally different culture and attitude towards its people technology is available,and its used to benefit the people. Plus the Chinese population doesn't eat trash there entire life and then run to the doctor to fix them.
The west should call this over-capacity of doctors and good medicine. Chinese citizen don't complain
Many Chinese man-babies whine about the long lines in the hospital, without realizing that the doctors are more tired than them.
Doctors in China suggest me to take biologics for my Crohn's Disease (chronic immune disease) and they tell me if you ever come back, you can take the biologics right away, and they can arrange it the same day,
But I have to come back to Canada just like the elder in this video, and now I need wait 2+ months to just see my booked doctor for my Crohn's disease, and they want me to redo a colonoscopy which I just did 2 months ago and I refuse to do so since it is too risky doing that too often. (I already diagnosed CD) I done 3 times in a year...
Frustration happens when you can do nothing about it. I can say China has the world best healthcare system.
My daughter studied in the uk and paid compulsory health insurance. When she caught a cold and was very unwell, what she received was just a glass of honey water from the school nurse and managed to sleep in the sick room and that's all. When we asked for medicines, the nurse came back that medicines were controlled in the country..
The problem with the health care in the us is everyone has to get a cut, and everyones "cut" asking price is too much. An MRI scan is 3000 no questions asked
LOL problem in U$UK everything is a business, nothing about care of human beings!
Probably the same dude owns the hospital, pharmaceutical company, insurance company, even the company gave the student loan to that doctor.
You should get a digital copy of the MRI results and take it back to the UK. At the very least you can see if there's any change if you get another in the UK
hey mate. if it's a degenerative spine issue esp with the L4 L5 S1, you can try Osteos (or Chiro's, depending on where you are). Those may be quick (like, done in 5 mins), but when it's done every 2 to 3 days for 4 to 5 times consecutively, it can help your dad a LOT.
There are chinese options too, but from what i know, the capable ones are in Beijing. But you can always Baidu and check out the reviews. To us bonesetting practitioners, it's nothing new and we do it all the time, AND we see results =)
Hope this helps!
Man i also have a little problem with my spine (s1 i think) and always scared to do chiro incase they mess it up .. but cheers haha
Nah! UK NHS has Dr Noel Fitzgerald who can fix spines like a magician. Seen him do many cats and dogs with screws and bolts. Why not humans?
I never know that public hospitals in Shanghai have international departments, thank you for your information.
I live in UK, it is a fact that NHS is getting very inefficient, almost impossible to get to see a doctor.
UK is allowing uncontrolled immigration, overloading the hospitals. China have tightly controlled borders, and put China first. If you voted Labour, you got what you voted for.
UK has to import doctors from India or the Philippines
Yes, for many years my local GP surgery had 8-9 doctors registered there but only 2 or so would actually be at work each day. They claim to open 5½ days a week, yet you need to call at 8am exactly on the dot, any minute less and you will be told there are no more doctor's appointment for that day. The appointment are almost always in the morning. If you get an appointment in the afternoon, there are very few people in the waiting room like doctors don't seem to work in the afternoon. Also nobody ever gets seen on Saturday morning and of course never on Sunday. Many of the senior doctors never ever turned up for work leaving only young inexperienced doctors to see patients in the morning. I was there a lot back then because my children were young at the nursery which was a hotbed of illnesses and they often fell sick.
@@rinzler9775 No, you need to remember that China has a population of 1.4 billion. Equivalent to the entire population of Europe and the United States. The illegal immigration you face is only equivalent to inter-provincial medical treatment in China. The more developed a province, the more people will seek medical treatment. And we don't have such a problem. Even the most crowded hospitals in China only require an appointment a day or two in advance. Except for organ transplant surgeries that require waiting for a donor, routine surgeries only require an appointment and can be performed quickly.
Rishi imported 1 million Indians during his reign
Hope your stepdad receive the necessary operation in the UK and get better soon. I live in London UK, and I know the NHS in under unbearable stress.
Underfunded, understaffed and undermined.
Reform of the NHS incoming (privatisation) 😂
中国人看病方便快捷都是建立在医生护士的辛苦付出。并且我们医药人才培养费用低，连印度、巴基斯坦都觉得中国学医便宜。比印度学医费用还低。来中国留学的最多就是医学专业.
NHS is NOT free service in the UK as more than 13.25% of salary are taken to pay the national insurance every month. On top of that, there r still 22% to 40% tax to pay
you see, the number of patients a Chinese doctor would see in one day would be more than 10 times a British doctor would see in one day, the experience and number of weird cases would be 10 more times
为什么你们的医生工作效率如此低？这种事发生在中国肯定会被民众疯狂举报的，然后就会发生医院会给你打电话道歉，如果经常被举报，这个医院就会面临罚款和整改，有可能医院相关领导人也会被调查处分~
@@eshina8458in the west doctors will do anything possible to avoid liability
In america they'd charge you 1000 dollars before you even walk in the door 😂
damn , every footstep of mine is 100 usd cost each
Never be afraid of treatment in China. I live in Guangzhou. I have stage 4 cancer and my Chinese doctors put me on targeted inhibitors. I live a relatively normal life. Each visit to the doctor costs me $1.50.
Can you please tell me more about the targeted therapy?. I have nsclc stage4 and has the egfr mutation exon 20. Thank you.
May that because the drug is currently on a trial program so it got heavily subsidised by the government? That's my guess on this!
@@phildefer2342 Sure. Targeted inhibitor therapy is new medication that targets the source of the cancer if cancer has an underlying reason. For example I have a mutated V600BRAF gene which causes the quick replication of cells, which could lead to cancer wherever cells are being replicated too quickly. In this instance there is targeted inhibitor therapy for the V600BTAF mutation. The medicine nullifies the mutation and controls and even reduces the cancer caused by the mutation. No chemo- or radio-therapy needed.
Unfortunately, it is very expensive ($3000 a month), and targeted inhibitors have not been developed for all types of cancer. I would suggest that you ask your oncologist if targeted inhibitors are available for your type of cancer. Good luck!!❤️
@@timmyjiang4692 A consultation is $1.50...my targeted therapy is patented and publicly available...that's not so cheap. U pay $3000 a month for the meds...
@AndreDMalan1966 thank you..we have a shot here on clinical trial which has been approved by the gov't. but not yet funded. It costs a lot of money, first month 28k then 13k dollars each month. Hopefully it will be funded soon or I get recommended by my medical oncologist based on compassionate care. You take care too❤
That;s pretty impressive to get the results so quickly. I hope your stepdad gets the treatment and recover quickly. Best wishes.
Bro, go to multiple hospitals, try traditional (chinese medicine) hospital and bring your scan results, I feel like some accupunture and therapy could be enough. Also Try find a hospital that specializes (or most known for) bone-related issues. As a Chinese, we tend to get the same check up from multiple hospitals and then take advice. I do not recommend taking advice from only one doctor especially if he's recommending surgery first thing. Always good to get at least a second opinion.
Thats what we locals do, ask locals which hospital is known for what department, get opinion from at least two specialists and try a traditional method.
We do not recommend surgery unless absolutely necessary.
In Australia, booking a simple procedure to remove endometrial polyps takes to wait 3 weeks up to a month…. I had the same procedure done in Shenzhen. It was done within a day( including ultrasound, blood test, red light therapy)
The result was good.
You can thank unrestrained immigration in Australia overloading the hospitals. China conyrol their borders, and have a China first policy.
Literally I’ve heard of Chinese immigrant families who are Australian residents or citizens
fly back to get surgeries done in China.
i was thinking of that but honestly the air fare and the accommodation? its not a cheaper option.
@@thevocalcrone So between illness and airfare and hotel money, you choose illness.
@@fantasycelestial2908 what an interesting projection and assumption you make. No between illness, airfare, hotel money, and the fact I can access health care at home, with family and friends.. i don't need to travel. However, I find the other persons experience quite interesting and don't understand why there were so many delays with her treatment. We aren't the UK or the US, we have one of the best (but not as good as it used to be) health care systems in the world. Poops all over the US and UK that is for sure.
I have medical insurance in China, but I usually don't use it very much, because it's only 20-50 dollars to go to the hospital for common diseases, and I don't bother to apply for insurance compensation for these small money.
Ruijin hospital is one of best hospital in China
Is China going to disrupt Healthcare like it did with so many other areas ? We all hope so and it looks like they're making great progress . Humanity would so benefit if all these warring countries could cooperate to solve world issues like tough dieases conditions and climate change instead of antagonizing each other.
Warring countries = only the west
As a Shanghainese living in the UK, although I live in London, if I want to see a doctor, I have to wait at least three to four weeks for an appointment. Then, for something like a blood test, I have to schedule it two or three weeks in advance. Because of this, I almost avoid seeing a doctor in the UK. When I go back to China once a year, I get a full body check-up, get prescriptions, and see the dentist.
@@duoxingbuyibizibi5671I’m a Brit living in the UK but visit China at least once a year, was totally amazed when I went for a check up last time I was there, highly efficient and thorough service for a fraction of the cost.
With visa free entry, I would go there just to have medical checkups while getting a free vacation paid with left over money from the healthcare savings in the western countries.
BBC headlines be like: "Medical Treatment in China is Better than UK. But at What Cost?"
😂😂
Yes, not LGBT aware enough.
Bbc would posit the cost is your soul.
代价是我门一年要给400元、保险百分之80的医疗费用？？
BBC: Come to work tomorrow. We need you.
i hope that nice man gets well soon
26 Weeks waiting and you are complayning? Come to Portugal and you will love the U.K hospitals.
Thank you for sharing, and I do hope your step dad can get treatment too! Keep us updated
Amazing efficiency!
There’s something to be said for a country where the health system is properly funded, so that the health professionals have time to think, and maintain an interest to keep up their knowledge because they’re not burned out, and there’s no worry that there are insurance companies or venture capitalists perpetually lobbying for parts of the system to be privatised, perpetually trying to make costs inflated, which makes it harder to fund, which makes it easier to say “hey why not privatise it and save money?”.
Go to a Chinese acupuncture doctor, he will stand up and walk right after the treatment, but you need another treatment after a few months. This is better than surgery that might take few months until he can sit. But make sure you get a good one.
Sorry to hear that it was a degraded disc :( problem.
It is very difficult to fix :(
Hoping Chinese doctors have a solution for your stepdad.
He should try traditional medicine in China, no surgery
2:00 Seriously need 26 weeks appointment for MRI scan at UK ? ? My country Singapore 1 ~ 2 days for CT scan
In the United States, you get to wait forever. Because insurance is not free. Any doctor visit will cost your life's savings. And even with insurance, you still have to wait and pay an outrageous copay.
In the US, if you need a MRI, you have to get permission from your medical insurance.
When a doctor tell me it all in your head i know he not a doctor. 😂
Well a larger part of my allergies were in my head… underwent hypnosis and psychological treatments and my allergies are down to 2-3 weeks each year from some 5 months… so please do not underestimate your mind and body… a phantom pain can be the result of years of ignored stress and a subsequent burnout … a cry to slow down…just saying
@@Ghredle at least they tell you what in your head that you need to get treatment not just say it all in your head without details. I been told by doctor like that after just do some basic blood pressure & heart beat. It my body of course i know there something wrong not like i love medicine or love doctors.
Ruijin is perhaps one of the best hospitals in China.
Dr speaks better English than many Canadians for sure😅
I'm actually going back to China soon for a medical check too.. 😌😌
My copay in the US for a MRI is $350 with an insurance.
You must have a very good insurance!
Most insurance has the deductible that the insured person must pay first before the copay kicks in.
Show d world d truth. Best wishes to yr dad.
瑞金 RuiJin is good hospital. In Shanghai all 三甲 hospitals are public, just like school, all Elite are public. Growup in China, I'm always critical about PRIVATE institutions😮
I love china
not something you want to advertise about, don't want americans flying over to china for cheap medical services and taking up resources for ppl who actually live in china
We go to Mexico for that. Pay cash and it's done.
@@davidlam5122Especially a trip to Medellin for the "therapeutic" massages. 😂😂😂
The only thing we go to china for are special messages with happy endings lol
Nah... The efficiency of Chinese hospitals can probably easily digest these American patients. All tests are done in a day or so. American system is totally totally broken. And you have a bunch of idiots running the healthcare system who can't even figure out how to handle 2 diff strength of medications (ye in my case).
Broken system, way worse dumber labor. It's unimaginable
Yeah, for real. When China starts curing diabetes, cancer, etc, they shouldn't advertise it to the world, otherwise you will have tons of people trying to get treatment there. It will clogged up the system.
AN MRI SCAN needs 26 weeks wait? WTF!!!!!!! unbelievable！！！！
can happen if marked as least urgent
If you really need it, I think they can schedule your surgery next week. It seems like standard procedure.
I had the same problem as you five years ago. I have bloating under my ribs on my right side which is very uncomfortable. I went to the best Western medicine hospital in China and checked everything. The doctor told me there was nothing wrong with me. But I was really, really uncomfortable. Later, I spent more than ten yuan to buy a bottle of Chinese patent medicine, and I felt better after taking it.
因为西医太过于依赖各种仪器来判断各种生理指标从而诊断出什么样的治疗方案；而中医是通过望闻问切，对整个生理机能运行状态进行评估，望能看看出表象，闻能听出叙述经历，问能知道关键信息，切脉象能分析出身体内循环有没有其他异常。
@@nihaohola 嗯，肝郁，吃了逍遥丸，好了。。。折腾我大半年，疯了。。。
Working in China can be stressful but retired people are treated very well.
UK doctors to reduce work load, they just try not to do anything more than they have to. 😂😂😂😂
Some, some. My niece and daughter work more than they're paid to do.
26 weeks the bloody UK doctor will tell you too late you came
They told him he had muscle problem. This Chinse doctor told him right away, even before the MRI, that is not the case. They are incompetent!
I have disc problems, too, they are degraded, and caused a (very) painful bunch of pinched nerves, L 2 L3 mzybe others, I believe. Went to a chiropractor trained in Pennsylvania, U.S. , a former pro basketball player (6 foot 8 inches) who got serious injuries, but got treated
successfully with chiropractic. He treated me twice a day. With sometimes a day between. In the beginning I could not get out of bed without pain or patient help. Very painful. Could walk but with ferocious pain depending on the movement. Needed help getting around, including being wheeled to the bathroom in my office chair. By treatment 8 I am walking with a cane only ' just in case' I make a wrong move, but often, no cane is needed. Get in and out of bed pain free. No acetominephen needed. Can turn overduring sleep pain free and without help. I'm going for 4 more treatments, hopefully I will get even better. See if there is a decent Chiropractor in your area. It could help avoid surgery.
In HK , government hospital will let you to wait 1 1/2 year for ultra sound checking !
That was quick👌.
MRI alone in the US costs an average $1000 without insurance, though it can range between $400 ~ $4000 situational. I've done it twice for lung scans and each time was $1800.
WTF，are you kidding ？most of Chinese can not afford it like the price.
I studied in the UK and enjoyed NHS once, it's not bad at all other than waiting for 2 hours, which is okay and acceptable. They also managed to call back to check up on me so I was really grateful for the NHS. Here in China, we also have a heavily gov subsidised health care system that allows many people to be able to receive care easily. Much like the transformation of the country, China's health care system also received tremendous improvement. I now don't feel the pressure for having to wait and can go easily.
You don't say when in uk. NHS has gone downhill in the last 3-5 years under the Tories. Under labour it's likely to be destroyed.
@@Zerpentsa6598 it's really a pity they don't keep it in a good shape. Back then I remember there was a famous youtube video from the Brits appreciating the NHS against American when hearing how much it cost to have a baby in the States. Rather amusing reactions.
All the best to your dad he's a cool guy
It is still way cheaper! In fact that costs less than going to the vet!😂
well, vets are usually more expensive than human doctors, even in hong Kong.. As we all know, our dogs and cats are way more valuable and in higher positions than us.
@@alanchanhongkong Is this a joke? 😛😝😂
@@eugenec7130 nope.. pet owners know vets are expensive in HK>
The hospitals in Europe just get worse and worse.. I got giardia, it's a troublesome parasite when I was in Nepal.. I got really sick and lost 12kg in 2 weeks.. after 5 weeks I was able to get to Thailand, well there at the hospital, it took 6 hours to take ALL the tests, send to the lab and get answers and the right medicine.. Now it took 6 months to get rid of the parasite so well at home in Sweden I needed more medicine.. But it wasn't possible to just get more medicine altho I had all the papers.. So new tests were to be taken and it took 14 days before I got my medicine
So would a UK hospital actually acknowledge the MRI result from China? Imagine going back, knowing exactly what it is but then having to wait another 6 weeks so you can have the exact same tests to validate what you already know.
the machine is American😂
@@loongsiu4766 I heard that China has developed and mass produces its own MRI machines
In the US that will cost 10,000 😭
$10,000 added to US GDP COUNT. Health Service account to 17% OF US GDP. Easy to understand why there are so many poor people in so called rich countries with high gdp
Are you saying for the visit and MRI?
No way a back surgery would only cost 10k
And that's $10,000 with medical insurance.
@@FAFORednickincell Just the MRI and visit I think. It seems to depends because some sources say its only 500 but others say it is like 12,000 for some MRIs.
@@cookiesareyum1043
You might be interested in this
I was watching a documentary some westerner who had come back to the poorest village in China 1 year later
As he walks in on a Poverty Alleviation Senior Social worker berating 5 or 6
Poverty Alleviation social workers because a deadline was fast approaching and they had a quotas to meet getting people in the village above a poverty line or they all including this Senior Social worker would get demoted/fired
Where they for example had to make sure the villagers were signed up for some State healthcare plan where the State paid 95% of the bills
Then this guys follows one social worker as he shows him the newly paved roads and new houses and the donated furnishings in a home
Even with all that you could get a sense of fear and worry in this guy demeanour.
As we find out he was some Government banking official who was demoted to this job
And the only way you move back up is to meet your deadlines and quotas
Is this a better system than we have in the west?
Depends on if our Government is willing to build roads and houses for people with little expected return. And put peoples jobs on the line to get those results
Type into a UA-cam Search
“Revisiting China's poorest village”
Perhaps you can get your parent to try traditional Chinese bone fixing 跌打 master . Maybe is the spinal cord bone compressed the nerve
It may work for upper body discs but not the lower ones. I have a ruptured disc in my neck more than 20 years ago, I did not do the surgery. I'm doing fine.
Same in Portugal. They didn’t guess or tell me to rest, they tested. After 40 years of pain without an x-ray on NHS I was diagnosed in a day.
Unbelievable! Best wishes for your step dad. Hope you can also give us an update on the treatment of your ears when you get a chance. Thanks❤
上海的同濟大學醫學院是全英語教學 , 所以畢業的醫生都能操流利英語 !
I've health care in both Canada and Taiwan... I live in Canada and only go back to Taiwan once a year. Guess what I do for the few weeks I stay in Taiwan. I book myself to hospitals, health checkups, therapies, eye exams, dental office, anything you can think of. I can get much more done in a couple of weeks in Taiwan than the 11 month that I live in Canada. The health care is free in Canada but it's definitely crappy. However, compare to the utter ridiculousness they have in the USA, I guess I shouldn't complain that much....
I lived in taiwan for a year(my wife is tw) and now we live in china, we both lived in canada for 2-3 decades before that, and definitely healthcare way better in taiwan and china, and I hear in other south east asian countries than they are back home.
Ruijin Hospital is amazing. Back in 2012, one of my students got a broken neck and was treated in Ruijin Hospital. To my relief and surprise, he recovered completely! A friend also had ACL surgery there with good results and no complications.
Shame he couldn't have it done in China... I would have extended the visit to do so!
But expensive medical cost is good for British economy. It creats a lot of GDP
And the royal family gets new boats.
If they were smart they would realize a healthy and productive population would increase the gdp way more
So efficient and fast results and recommended solutions in China! In the US just waiting for blood work results it would takes a few days, appointments probably took weeks or months to see the doctor as well. And if you don’t have insurance the costs is you don’t want to know, it’s a nightmare. With insurance it’s not free either.
Youll have a flood of Brits & Americans visiting China now😂
No Thanks maybe they are Spies 😂
Thanks for sharing this. Awesome video very informative. Try acupuncture before considering the surgery. Get well soon.
Same here in Canada 6 months wait for MRI. Decompression surgery will only help temporarily.
If you voted Trudeau, you got what you voted for.
I've had decompression surgery and I'm still playing golf 2x18 holes a week.(walking). I was falling over before the surgery.