My husband had a text that seemed strange (a woman about asking about a plan on Monday) and he immediately opened the conversation and gave me the phone so I could read everything I wanted. I told him I didn't want to read a thing, and he laughed and told me I was sangre Latina and this will eat my brain if i didn't read it and see it's all good 😂 which yeah, jajajaa it would. Thanks to his reaction, the way he reassured me, was direct, and didn't lie or get defensive, I didn't even read anything above the apart from the text that talked about the meeting that was about work. This wife is 100% cheating, an innocent person will show and do anything to give peace of mind to their partner no matter how dumb the reason it might be.
You know when my dad passed it emotionally paralyzed me I had never felt pain like that before in my life. You know what the one thing that never even entered my mind to do and that was to cheat with another man. She's cheated on him a whole hell of a lot more than that one time
A part of me think maybe op wasn't all there but even giving that benefit, she should know the nuke that is about to drop when op is gonna find out. Her choices, her hell.
I thought the same thing. I was 36 when my dad died, I leaned on my husband hard. My first thoughts weren't going out and cheating on him. Losing your parent or friend doesn't make you want to cheat... ffs.
Because he was an idiot for the most part. So many red flags went off and he chose to ignore them. Stevie Wonder could have seen that she was cheating. He went out of his way to overlook everything
Because it's possible he won't go through it 😂🤣 he still believes she only cheated once and with the way he speaks about her and their love it is possible she'll convince him with "couples therapy"
It was only a few days between seeing the text and her admitting to the affair. People need to make allowances that he's had to process his whole life blowing up - it can take time to pull the plug even when it's the obvious thing to do.
I will never understand why people go on reddit about a cheating SO and always say leaving is not an option like what😂 then you should not be asking due advice and kids is the worse reason to ever stay in any situation.
Yep. And theirs always people trying to excuse it with bs like “it’s easy for you to say.” Which is true but I have enough respect for myself to leave when I find out my partner is a cheater
Also the kids end up hating them and never speaking to them again due to the massive mental illness problems living a house of lies caused. And yes the kids know, they always know! The emotions seep out and poison the air like black mold spores!
@@Acehigh-Jenkinsas someone who grew up in a house with the same issues, I would have rather my mom stay single during my adolescence. I’ll take separate households with happy parents vs two parent households & they’re miserable. I didn’t know what was going on but I knew SOMETHING was going on & it affected me tremendously. “Staying for the kids” serves literally no one, *especially* not the kids.
I love the "oh I was having a hard time after my father's death" as an excuse. Yeah, because riding some new dick really helps with the grieving and whatnot. OP may not have seen it, but the wife was trashy the whole time. "Innocent flirting" is not some regular happenstance between co-workers, let alone married ones. Living a lie is way worse than divorce. Wife is just a cake-eater.
Denying and gaslighting would be strike one. Deleting any and all messages would be strike two. Downplaying, shifting blame or not taking any accountability for their actions would be strike three and an immediate halt on the marriage.
I seriously doubt she gave OP the full story. Now comes the *“trickle truth”* phase. The simple fact that she is maintaining the relationship tells the story. There is no real remorse, well not other than she has now been caught.
Man caught his wife getting a "Hey Big Head" message damn. It's always mind boggling a married person leans on someone who isn't their spouse, other family or therapist for help with issues.
I'm never this early. Hi! During your outro I love when you say "I hope you enjoyed listening, I really enjoyed reading them to you." Feels like I just finished listening to a bedtime story. It makes me feel warn and fuzzy.
cheaters are usually emotionally damaged people, sociopaths and as such they don't care about others or if they hurt them...they find it exciting to sneak around behind partners back. That's why most of time relationships between cheater and AP very quickly ends, because that forbidden excitement is simply not there anymore...so they find another sucker to cheat again (damaged people, what else to say). That's one of the reason, why you never give a cheater second chance, they will do that again
If they dont let you check the phone IMMEDIATELY after being caught on suspicious behavior assume the worst and tell them so, that since they are hiding information you will assume it is the worst thing you can imagine and act accordingly, leave them.
I would love if this was best case, but a liar like her could tell EVERYONE AROUND that the only reason he divorced her is because he was trying to invade her privacy when she did nothing wrong. She could tarnish the ears of your children and other family. You need to catch them red handed with proof, especially after marriage when it can be used in court.
“she should look to make sure someone didn’t need anything” LMAO I’m so happy I don’t cheat. That guy is so not interested in being with OP’s wife. She’s played herself
You should never stay together with a cheater for the sake of kids, that never works. Doing that will only build resentment and eventually kids will pick up that.
I've come to like your videos more than other reddit videos because of your mood boosters at the end. ( There were some main stories that were so sad they were a MUCH needed lift. ) Thanks for being so considerate!
I left a job 4 years ago and I have had some contact with my former coworkers, but none of them have texted me late at night to ask if I'm awake. Nor have I ever done that. This is very suspicious.
Oh yes those conversations that are so innocent that she deleted it afterwards 🙄. The “I do that with all old conversations” line would have me go “oh really? Ok then let’s check some of your other conversations while we’re at it to see if that’s true” Took OP way too long to grow his spine. The fact he was considering counseling and even entertaining the idea of staying with her had me going “don’t do it just leave she already broke your trust”
The fact that she told him she would understand if he divorced her tells me everything I need to know. She wants out of that marriage & wants to be with AP. I hope OP tells everyone what she did & don’t protect her.
I have only messaged One married woman at 12 in the morning. It was to wish her a happy birthday. Her husband was totally fine with it too! It read "Love you Happy Birthday MOM!"
Yes there is. For many, flirting, finding others attractive, etc. do not constitute cheating. Flirting is not a guarantee of starting any sort of relationship. Heck, I've flirted with many people while single, who returned the flirting, where nothing came of it whatsoever, even though I was single! It's just fun flirting, that's the point. We don't necessarily look for anything more than flirting sometimes. Got it?
@@Number-vt1fl If that's your boundaries, that's fine. But don't pretend like that's the universal law. As I said, flirting can be harmless in many different contexts. The fact that you do not have the mental capacity to recognize the complexities in life and have to reduce things into simple black and white picture isn't our problem. You may just keep believing that for yourself and for your partner who agrees, but do not have the audacity to impose it on others who don't.
@@SE013 You're acting like there's nuance to it when in reality, most people would consider flirting a deal breaker while in a relationship. Also, please don't be rude. I didn't insult you, so please don't insult me.
My sister died 12 years ago and we were very close, more like friends on top of being siblings. You know what I didn't do even when I felt I couldn't breathe and that the world was hell, cheat on my then boyfriend, now husband. OP, DIVORCE & DNA test those kids.
Who is raising these weak, passive, men? That's what I want to know. I've been cheated on and I didn't have to ask reddit what to do, so I just can't understand it.
Reddit does have its benefits but to be so spineless and passive? 😐 I have bigger balls then a lot of dudes and I'm rocking a V, not a P V = vagina P = Penis Just in case my weird lingo isn't understood by some people lol
Very few cheaters cheat once, it becomes an addiction like any other it a secret and exciting and it feeds something "they" feel is lacking in a relationship.
I loved when he voiced like the ex “I don’t know” you’re awesome. MB- I hate that there are ppl that are so vicious to others trying to pay for bills, that they have to be a DK about little things. It’s easier to be nice.
While I don’t always agree with your takes, you have a great channel and I appreciate the mood booster posts when the first post ends on a down note. Keep doing what you’re doing.
For the 2nd story she had evidence in email and text form the person had numerous complaints. In the email to everyone I would have added there are labor laws against harassment and on creating a hostile workplace and HR and this company have failed repeatedly to make a safe working environment. If you word it like that they will be terrified of being sued
The suspect part in the first story was not the late night messages. My God, married people are not kept and locked away. Not everyone who messages late at night is sending "you up?" messages. Welcome to a world where people have friends in different time zones, friends who are bored on a night shift etc. I'm a night owl. Most of my friends are too. If the SOLE reason a partner got suspicious was the time of day my night shift friend sent me a meme I'd be ticked. The swipe and lie? THAT is a reason and gut instinct paid off. But what an archaic view to have about what's "proper" for attached people.
I'm one of those people who say "Why is X messaging me at this time of night?" and showing the message and reply. Not because I'm scared my partner will think I'm cheating, more a "they have no idea of time". If my partner wanted to look through my phone I'd be pissed off, but I'd let them look then go "happy now?"
STORY 1: OP's wife has been cheating on him for 5 years. No one stays in contact with their side piece for 5 years unless they're still screwing. OP is unfortunately naive but better late than never. At least he's divorcing her
OP’s boss tells OP she’s ‘too big for her race.’ Huh? What tf does that even mean?! I am aware there are definitely body/physical stereotypes, but I’ve never heard a person implying being “big” is ok for one race yet unacceptable for another… Racism mixed with body shaming; what an absolutely miserable person. I’m surprised HR didn’t get rid of her much sooner, not because they care about the victim(s!) but because she sounds like _multiple_ lawsuits just waiting to happen, at least in the US. I am having trouble wrapping my head around it, no matter how hard I try. Like… it’s such a bizarre yet specific insult.
Yeah, I know for some Asian folks (Vietnam, Japan etc.) being small is normal / average and Western S size may be their XL or something, and that some parents shame their kids for being bigger, what would've been considered only medium or small size in the West, not even large. Asians tell about this on the internet, make vidoes (on the top of my head I can name Uyen Ninh who compares Vietnam and Germany in her many, many videos and shorts, but I remember seeing more shorts dealing more directly with the topic and in less fun way than Uyen does) and comments. But I never heard such comments directed to someone of other culture / colour, it's between themselves. I'm also surprised they kept her for that long, it really were multiple lawsuits waiting to happen.
Some people are so pathetic. AITA if I called someone a jerk, after they punched me in the face for no reason? The proper response was to immediately, physically, remove the phone from her possession by ANY means necessary. Then let her know that she won’t be getting it back until I’ve gone through it. If she won’t give up the password, I’ll take it somewhere. If you’re smart, the phones are in both names, and it’s legally yours.
Story 1: Really happy OP was able yo brush off his spine. But a part of me wishes he stuck in a comment about how her father would be ashamed to know how she acted in his death.
I delete all my chats except my husband .. but that's because I like to reread our conversations... and we both get texts at all hours from friends and coworkers of both genders.. I think you either trust them or don't
I typically hold onto documentation of past conversations to simultaneously shows transparency with my partner or to prove my innocence in case of false allegations (which has happened). So the wife deleting them sounds alarming to me.
My friend messaging me at 1 am cause his sleep schedule is f*ck up: 😅 Some people just go to sleep really late, although that woman sounds hella suspicious hiding her phone :v
Story 1: I'm sorry OP is dealing with an overhaul of his life because his wife wasn't faithful. I, too, couldn't forgive and move on. I hope he and his kids find peace. Mood booster: I hope Jane learns from her experience and quits being a crappy person.
Story 1: funny how when I lose family members I don't really feel the inclination to cheat on my partner. OP needs to LEAVE. And get a paternity test for the kids. Edit: If you don't want to see your kids every weekend or so, sue for full custody? Literally nothing says you can't
There's nothing like privacy in commited relationship and absolutelly not in marriage...if you ask, she will show you, same is valid for her if she ask to see your phone...women are using "privacy excuse" for secrecy
I don't understand why a person would not confront their partner on the spot when they see something dodgy. If you don't, you just give them time to delete everything and lie to your face so you can come to Reddit and cry all shocked about how you didn't see that coming 😅 You see you ask. Don't just see, make thousands of scenarios in your head for days then confront them. Are people really that thick? It's common sense to ask on the spot and not weeks later.
That sketchy explanation, plus the fact that she deleted from archives is pretty incriminating. She’s been sexting at the least. Check the bank balances and transactions. And LORD I hate manipulative cryers. That pisses me off more than yelling. And even if she’s truthful that it only happened that once in an emotional situation, the fact that she’s still in contact with the guy should tell you she’s not done with the guy. Your choice whether you want to work through it-lots of people do manage to save their marriages after an affair, but IMO the trust is gone.
S1: Person goes to Reddit-a site INFAMOUS for saying "Divorce/Leave/Break-up" and says "those aren't options." What did they expect? That being said, unless OP1 gets counseling with the wife, their marriage is doomed. Trust is gone. After update: Ok. She's definitely cheating. OP1, stick a fork in that marriage, it's done! Moodbooster: There's cutting off one's nose to spite their face and then there's THAT.
An old high-school friend i had to block, he knew i was married and very happily. He started to make lude comments to pictures, at first i thought he was just being ironic, cause that tended to be his personality, then he started to DM me constantly, at first it was innocent, about shit we talked about when we were teens, but then he started to send crazy messages, i showed my husband cause i wasn't sure if i was being over sensitive about, he said no, he was being gross and a jerk, blocked him right after talking with my husband. Talked to other female friends in our group and apparently he had been doing the same to them as well, why? Ugh. Haven't talked to him in 8 years, he was a great friend but nope, i love my husband.
It's the continuing contact during the past 5 years that does it for me. I don't know what things were like 5 years ago when she lost her dad. Maybe she wasn't even in her right mind. Grief can fuck you up really badly. But getting back in touch when you've moved on, changed jobs even, chatting sporadically for years? I mean, come on now.
I don't understand how her father passing away would be a good excuse for cheating. The fact that that was what she thought of after that just shows she have thought for a long while.
Yeah, I was a wreck when my mom passed away suddenly. But I sought comfort and pleasure from my partner, because why the hell would I go elsewhere?! So gross. I love her. I would never want to disrespect her. And she has done the same with me when her parents passed away. Grief is not an excuse for cheating, not even being "too drunk" is a valid excuse! I've had alcohol poisoning a couple times and I was still able to understand what actions would be bad. Cheaters will cheat, no matter what. And if they do it once they will most likely do so again & again. And sadly in this case it is not just the spouse that is suffering from her actions but the children also. She is breaking her family. I hope Op doesn't do the common, and very stupid thing, thing by "keeping the infidelity" a secret, because at some point she won't and she'll make Op out to be the unfaithful one, or claim he was abusive or emotionally/physically neglectful. Cheaters do that bs all the freaking time! Stop it before it starts, that's the only good thing to do.
She has either cheated or is thinking about it. As far as her not being hypervigilant about her phone? Maybe she thought it was safe because she wasn’t expecting a text from AP.
If someone messaged my husband after midnight and it wasn't an emergency, there would be big problems. NTA. But I'm pretty sure your wife is cheating, could be emotional, could be physical.
How do you repair a marriage where cheating has occurred without separation or divorce being on the table? What is the incentive for the cheating spouse to correct and atone for their behavior? I had an acquaintance that was in a relationship with a partner who cheated repeatedly and she told him she would never leave him. I was like why did you tell him that? He won’t stop until he’s tired of running around now because there aren’t any immediate consequences for him that have an impact that he cares about. Every relationship should have standards that everyone involved knows that although I will love you forever that doesn’t mean that I will live with you forever through disrespect, abuse, dishonesty or cheating.
The majority of us single women, who have waited for a man like hers, are unbelievable angry at her choices. Nope, loosing your father is an excuse to Cheat. That’s when you seek refuge with your husband. 😂 no excuses. S2: karma at its best. 😂😂😂 thank you so much for your videos. The make my day. 😋
If the wife was truly 100% regretting what she did then she wouldve cut ALL contact with the lover, she'd want to get as far away from his as possible no matter how long it had, supposedly, been since she cheated. Also, only happened once? Suuuuuure it did. Imo theres about a 5% chance it was a one off. Yes, unfortunately mistakes do happen & you learn ur lesson, grow from it & move on & try to improve urself. You DO NOT keep in contact with that person out of courtesy or anything else, youd cut them from ur life & keep as far away as posible. Shes lying & trickle truthing imo
s1: NTA. wife is comfortable lying to you and has begun the trickle-truthing and sugarcoating. if she's casually messaging an "old work-friend", why is this the first time you're hearing about it? and also why would she cry over telling you? wife is defo going behind your back. yes i am the devil on your shoulder, get her out of your life.
"This conversation was totally innocent which is why I deleted it and scrubbed the archives. That is how innocent it was"
Honest, Guv!
If it was innocent then she would've had no problem showing him. 🙄
My husband had a text that seemed strange (a woman about asking about a plan on Monday) and he immediately opened the conversation and gave me the phone so I could read everything I wanted.
I told him I didn't want to read a thing, and he laughed and told me I was sangre Latina and this will eat my brain if i didn't read it and see it's all good 😂 which yeah, jajajaa it would.
Thanks to his reaction, the way he reassured me, was direct, and didn't lie or get defensive, I didn't even read anything above the apart from the text that talked about the meeting that was about work.
This wife is 100% cheating, an innocent person will show and do anything to give peace of mind to their partner no matter how dumb the reason it might be.
The fact that OP is asking AITA, and referring to cheating as a mistake shows he has a simp mindset.
I'm sure that couple's counselling will be very eye-opening for the OP
Sleeping with someone and then still texting that person screams no remorse and likely to cheat again.
Lets be honest, she's probably never stopped cheating and there is a good chance that one or both of those kids aren't his.
@@AusExplorer true
@@AusExplorer But she said it was only one time.
@@johnbradbury8610 lol she said a lot of things...
You know when my dad passed it emotionally paralyzed me I had never felt pain like that before in my life.
You know what the one thing that never even entered my mind to do and that was to cheat with another man.
She's cheated on him a whole hell of a lot more than that one time
A part of me think maybe op wasn't all there but even giving that benefit, she should know the nuke that is about to drop when op is gonna find out. Her choices, her hell.
Same for me. I just went through the motions and functioned, but that was as much as I was capable of doing.
I thought the same thing. I was 36 when my dad died, I leaned on my husband hard. My first thoughts weren't going out and cheating on him. Losing your parent or friend doesn't make you want to cheat... ffs.
S1: Get those kids paternity tested and STD tests for you. Talk to an attorney about divorce. Wake up.
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If he's a decent father, he won't want to paternity test them for fear that if they're not his bio kids he might lose them.
I don’t see the fuss, why are people bashing op when he literally admitted Reddit was right and he’s getting a divorce.
Idk, tbh I just think he’s a idiot cause he took her back after she nearly cheated the first time
Because he was an idiot for the most part. So many red flags went off and he chose to ignore them. Stevie Wonder could have seen that she was cheating. He went out of his way to overlook everything
Because it's possible he won't go through it 😂🤣 he still believes she only cheated once and with the way he speaks about her and their love it is possible she'll convince him with "couples therapy"
It was only a few days between seeing the text and her admitting to the affair. People need to make allowances that he's had to process his whole life blowing up - it can take time to pull the plug even when it's the obvious thing to do.
@@anxnymous_bodiesStevie Wonder has inner visions, OP has weaponized ignorance against himself 😂
I will never understand why people go on reddit about a cheating SO and always say leaving is not an option like what😂 then you should not be asking due advice and kids is the worse reason to ever stay in any situation.
Yep. And theirs always people trying to excuse it with bs like “it’s easy for you to say.” Which is true but I have enough respect for myself to leave when I find out my partner is a cheater
Also the kids end up hating them and never speaking to them again due to the massive mental illness problems living a house of lies caused. And yes the kids know, they always know! The emotions seep out and poison the air like black mold spores!
@@Acehigh-Jenkinsas someone who grew up in a house with the same issues, I would have rather my mom stay single during my adolescence. I’ll take separate households with happy parents vs two parent households & they’re miserable. I didn’t know what was going on but I knew SOMETHING was going on & it affected me tremendously. “Staying for the kids” serves literally no one, *especially* not the kids.
Yeah.. then they get defensive.. like if you don't want the advice, leave it then
I can understand a person who is in an abusive relationship, where it's dangerous or someone with no money or a means to support themselves.
She delete text conversations, yeah, she's cheating.
Noone deletes FB messenger text. I have shit from 2006 if I freaking go looking for it
I love the "oh I was having a hard time after my father's death" as an excuse. Yeah, because riding some new dick really helps with the grieving and whatnot. OP may not have seen it, but the wife was trashy the whole time. "Innocent flirting" is not some regular happenstance between co-workers, let alone married ones. Living a lie is way worse than divorce. Wife is just a cake-eater.
@@immapotato1 I do I just don't like clutter.
@@immapotato1 I got messages from over 12 years ago on facebook. Anybody who deletes messages Z is purposely trying to keep any secrets. Hidden.
Emotional cheating is cheating
Denying and gaslighting would be strike one. Deleting any and all messages would be strike two. Downplaying, shifting blame or not taking any accountability for their actions would be strike three and an immediate halt on the marriage.
What is even worse is that she is using her father's pass away as an excuse. It's that whole saying of you never know the person face a disaster.
I seriously doubt she gave OP the full story. Now comes the *“trickle truth”* phase. The simple fact that she is maintaining the relationship tells the story. There is no real remorse, well not other than she has now been caught.
I want couple's counselling updates!
Wait until he comes back with the update about his kids not being his.
Man caught his wife getting a "Hey Big Head" message damn. It's always mind boggling a married person leans on someone who isn't their spouse, other family or therapist for help with issues.
She just wasn't feeling 100% ok, so she needed those big vitamin-D injectioins to get herself through the day.
😂@@AusExplorer
That's a "Wyd you up?" text 😂.
I'm never this early. Hi!
During your outro I love when you say "I hope you enjoyed listening, I really enjoyed reading them to you."
Feels like I just finished listening to a bedtime story. It makes me feel warn and fuzzy.
😊Same here! I love when he says that because it's genuine... ❤ Eta: And his morning!!
That's awesome :) great to know of your positive take away from my videos!
Meant, GOOD MORNING 😂😂❤
I never understood why people would rather cheat than either work on it or divorce. No, they would rather cause as much pain as possible.
cheaters are usually emotionally damaged people, sociopaths and as such they don't care about others or if they hurt them...they find it exciting to sneak around behind partners back. That's why most of time relationships between cheater and AP very quickly ends, because that forbidden excitement is simply not there anymore...so they find another sucker to cheat again (damaged people, what else to say). That's one of the reason, why you never give a cheater second chance, they will do that again
If they dont let you check the phone IMMEDIATELY after being caught on suspicious behavior assume the worst and tell them so, that since they are hiding information you will assume it is the worst thing you can imagine and act accordingly, leave them.
I would love if this was best case, but a liar like her could tell EVERYONE AROUND that the only reason he divorced her is because he was trying to invade her privacy when she did nothing wrong. She could tarnish the ears of your children and other family. You need to catch them red handed with proof, especially after marriage when it can be used in court.
Some people don't see emotional cheating as cheating until they are caught and then try to defend their actions.
“she should look to make sure someone didn’t need anything” LMAO
I’m so happy I don’t cheat.
That guy is so not interested in being with OP’s wife. She’s played herself
If she admits she cheated 5 years ago, and they are still in contact, you can bet she cheated more since then.
You should never stay together with a cheater for the sake of kids, that never works. Doing that will only build resentment and eventually kids will pick up that.
I've come to like your videos more than other reddit videos because of your mood boosters at the end. ( There were some main stories that were so sad they were a MUCH needed lift. ) Thanks for being so considerate!
I left a job 4 years ago and I have had some contact with my former coworkers, but none of them have texted me late at night to ask if I'm awake. Nor have I ever done that. This is very suspicious.
What a terrible wife, mother, and person OP's wife is.
So she feels guilty? But still messaging the guy and kept it hidden? No she doesn’t feel bad she just reacting to the blow up.
Poor guy. He’s right though, living with the painful truth is better than living in blissful ignorance
Oh yes those conversations that are so innocent that she deleted it afterwards 🙄. The “I do that with all old conversations” line would have me go “oh really? Ok then let’s check some of your other conversations while we’re at it to see if that’s true” Took OP way too long to grow his spine. The fact he was considering counseling and even entertaining the idea of staying with her had me going “don’t do it just leave she already broke your trust”
No idea why you would clear messaged when they don't take up space in a limited capacity.
"A man (or woman) with nothing to hide, hides nothing".
"worst fears confirmed" ... not yet, he hasn't had a paternity test.
The fact that she told him she would understand if he divorced her tells me everything I need to know. She wants out of that marriage & wants to be with AP. I hope OP tells everyone what she did & don’t protect her.
I have only messaged One married woman at 12 in the morning. It was to wish her a happy birthday. Her husband was totally fine with it too!
It read "Love you Happy Birthday MOM!"
My favorite parts of these videos are where you say something really dry and sarcastic under your breath after reading parts of the story 🤣🤣😏
It was the cheating, the lies and the disrespect what ruined the marriage. The text just saved him from living a lie another day.
His eyes were completely wide shut! Probably naive to what 'trickle truth' is. All the best OP
Oh OP, you poor naive soul.
No such thing as "innocent flirting" when you're a marriage woman.
*married person. Fixed that for you. Shit is abhorrent
Yes there is. For many, flirting, finding others attractive, etc. do not constitute cheating. Flirting is not a guarantee of starting any sort of relationship. Heck, I've flirted with many people while single, who returned the flirting, where nothing came of it whatsoever, even though I was single! It's just fun flirting, that's the point. We don't necessarily look for anything more than flirting sometimes. Got it?
@@SE013 No there isn't. If you're married, you shouldn't be flirting with anyone other than your spouse.
@@Number-vt1fl If that's your boundaries, that's fine. But don't pretend like that's the universal law. As I said, flirting can be harmless in many different contexts. The fact that you do not have the mental capacity to recognize the complexities in life and have to reduce things into simple black and white picture isn't our problem. You may just keep believing that for yourself and for your partner who agrees, but do not have the audacity to impose it on others who don't.
@@SE013 You're acting like there's nuance to it when in reality, most people would consider flirting a deal breaker while in a relationship. Also, please don't be rude. I didn't insult you, so please don't insult me.
This is why I leave when I see red flags the first time
My sister died 12 years ago and we were very close, more like friends on top of being siblings. You know what I didn't do even when I felt I couldn't breathe and that the world was hell, cheat on my then boyfriend, now husband. OP, DIVORCE & DNA test those kids.
Oh my god...the naivete of this dude is INSANE! Ignorance is only bliss for the ignorant. For everyone else, it suuucks
Who is raising these weak, passive, men? That's what I want to know. I've been cheated on and I didn't have to ask reddit what to do, so I just can't understand it.
Reddit does have its benefits but to be so spineless and passive? 😐 I have bigger balls then a lot of dudes and I'm rocking a V, not a P
V = vagina
P = Penis
Just in case my weird lingo isn't understood by some people lol
She's cheating and will keep on cheating. Leave OP.
Very few cheaters cheat once, it becomes an addiction like any other it a secret and exciting and it feeds something "they" feel is lacking in a relationship.
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Enjoy them every time you post LG ^_^
They need to discuss this over a nice cup of coffee.
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OP clearly a tea drinker
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Good evening from Virginia as well!
Good stories today. I love your commentary. Makes me smile ☺️
I hate how op allows this person to gaslight him
Story number one.... Messages are never gone on Facebook or messenger, you just have to request your account... Everything is there including photos
I loved when he voiced like the ex “I don’t know” you’re awesome.
MB- I hate that there are ppl that are so vicious to others trying to pay for bills, that they have to be a DK about little things. It’s easier to be nice.
When he saw the message, he should've asked to see the phone then.
Thanks LG
😊☕️❤️ Thanks for the stories.
Story one: This sub is trash? Yeah that’s gonna make people want to help you…
That sub and reddit in general is trash
You pick and choose what you're exposed to, on Reddit. If you feel it's trash, that's your fault, make "better" choices.
I mean he isn’t wrong tho…
@@fyoutube9410😂😂 yeah sure bud that's why so many people still use it.
It was a username. RARLY do people actually read usernames let alone take them seriously
While I don’t always agree with your takes, you have a great channel and I appreciate the mood booster posts when the first post ends on a down note. Keep doing what you’re doing.
I appreciate that! Thank you :)
Yeah communications stop when affairs stop.
Poor poor OP.
Hope OP gets the kids DNA tested.
"Give me your &#@%ing phone right now, or we are divorcing tomorrow anyway!!"
Wife didn't cheat five years AGO. She has been cheating for 5 years.
☕☕ the only thing missing from this was her blaming him
OP 1 had a hard time, the mood booster was great!
For the 2nd story she had evidence in email and text form the person had numerous complaints. In the email to everyone I would have added there are labor laws against harassment and on creating a hostile workplace and HR and this company have failed repeatedly to make a safe working environment. If you word it like that they will be terrified of being sued
Good morning, LG!
Girl really got "u up?"'d in her dms and pretended it didn't happen lol
The suspect part in the first story was not the late night messages. My God, married people are not kept and locked away. Not everyone who messages late at night is sending "you up?" messages. Welcome to a world where people have friends in different time zones, friends who are bored on a night shift etc. I'm a night owl. Most of my friends are too. If the SOLE reason a partner got suspicious was the time of day my night shift friend sent me a meme I'd be ticked. The swipe and lie? THAT is a reason and gut instinct paid off. But what an archaic view to have about what's "proper" for attached people.
I'm one of those people who say "Why is X messaging me at this time of night?" and showing the message and reply. Not because I'm scared my partner will think I'm cheating, more a "they have no idea of time". If my partner wanted to look through my phone I'd be pissed off, but I'd let them look then go "happy now?"
STORY 1: OP's wife has been cheating on him for 5 years. No one stays in contact with their side piece for 5 years unless they're still screwing. OP is unfortunately naive but better late than never. At least he's divorcing her
OP’s boss tells OP she’s ‘too big for her race.’ Huh? What tf does that even mean?! I am aware there are definitely body/physical stereotypes, but I’ve never heard a person implying being “big” is ok for one race yet unacceptable for another…
Racism mixed with body shaming; what an absolutely miserable person. I’m surprised HR didn’t get rid of her much sooner, not because they care about the victim(s!) but because she sounds like _multiple_ lawsuits just waiting to happen, at least in the US.
I am having trouble wrapping my head around it, no matter how hard I try. Like… it’s such a bizarre yet specific insult.
Yeah, I know for some Asian folks (Vietnam, Japan etc.) being small is normal / average and Western S size may be their XL or something, and that some parents shame their kids for being bigger, what would've been considered only medium or small size in the West, not even large. Asians tell about this on the internet, make vidoes (on the top of my head I can name Uyen Ninh who compares Vietnam and Germany in her many, many videos and shorts, but I remember seeing more shorts dealing more directly with the topic and in less fun way than Uyen does) and comments. But I never heard such comments directed to someone of other culture / colour, it's between themselves.
I'm also surprised they kept her for that long, it really were multiple lawsuits waiting to happen.
Good morning from Hitchins Kentucky.
Some people are so pathetic. AITA if I called someone a jerk, after they punched me in the face for no reason?
The proper response was to immediately, physically, remove the phone from her possession by ANY means necessary.
Then let her know that she won’t be getting it back until I’ve gone through it. If she won’t give up the password, I’ll take it somewhere. If you’re smart, the phones are in both names, and it’s legally yours.
Story 1: Really happy OP was able yo brush off his spine. But a part of me wishes he stuck in a comment about how her father would be ashamed to know how she acted in his death.
Innocent flirting is the biggest delusion I’ve heard in a long time…
She lied at every step. Awful.
She's been cheating for 5 years. Otherwise they wouldn't still be talking.
If I had a text at midnight I'd freak out. I'd think someone is in danger. The fact that she lied and wasn't even worried doesn't sound good.
LG, your sub voce comments are hilarious.
I delete all my chats except my husband .. but that's because I like to reread our conversations... and we both get texts at all hours from friends and coworkers of both genders.. I think you either trust them or don't
S1. Emotional cheating is still cheating.
I typically hold onto documentation of past conversations to simultaneously shows transparency with my partner or to prove my innocence in case of false allegations (which has happened).
So the wife deleting them sounds alarming to me.
S1 - NTAH. For any of it. After getting caught lying, she gave up the right to be trusted. Period. An innocent person would welcome it.
My friend messaging me at 1 am cause his sleep schedule is f*ck up: 😅
Some people just go to sleep really late, although that woman sounds hella suspicious hiding her phone :v
Story 1: I'm sorry OP is dealing with an overhaul of his life because his wife wasn't faithful. I, too, couldn't forgive and move on. I hope he and his kids find peace. Mood booster: I hope Jane learns from her experience and quits being a crappy person.
Story 1: funny how when I lose family members I don't really feel the inclination to cheat on my partner. OP needs to LEAVE. And get a paternity test for the kids.
Edit: If you don't want to see your kids every weekend or so, sue for full custody? Literally nothing says you can't
There's nothing like privacy in commited relationship and absolutelly not in marriage...if you ask, she will show you, same is valid for her if she ask to see your phone...women are using "privacy excuse" for secrecy
She was trickle-truthing him. I knew she was cheating. Sucks for OP and the kids.
I don't understand why a person would not confront their partner on the spot when they see something dodgy. If you don't, you just give them time to delete everything and lie to your face so you can come to Reddit and cry all shocked about how you didn't see that coming 😅
You see you ask. Don't just see, make thousands of scenarios in your head for days then confront them. Are people really that thick? It's common sense to ask on the spot and not weeks later.
That sketchy explanation, plus the fact that she deleted from archives is pretty incriminating. She’s been sexting at the least. Check the bank balances and transactions. And LORD I hate manipulative cryers. That pisses me off more than yelling. And even if she’s truthful that it only happened that once in an emotional situation, the fact that she’s still in contact with the guy should tell you she’s not done with the guy. Your choice whether you want to work through it-lots of people do manage to save their marriages after an affair, but IMO the trust is gone.
S1: Person goes to Reddit-a site INFAMOUS for saying "Divorce/Leave/Break-up" and says "those aren't options." What did they expect? That being said, unless OP1 gets counseling with the wife, their marriage is doomed. Trust is gone.
After update: Ok. She's definitely cheating. OP1, stick a fork in that marriage, it's done!
Moodbooster: There's cutting off one's nose to spite their face and then there's THAT.
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Good morning!! Have an awesome day!
Hello from the South coast of England! It's 4pm here, and looking gloomy and damp here!
An old high-school friend i had to block, he knew i was married and very happily. He started to make lude comments to pictures, at first i thought he was just being ironic, cause that tended to be his personality, then he started to DM me constantly, at first it was innocent, about shit we talked about when we were teens, but then he started to send crazy messages, i showed my husband cause i wasn't sure if i was being over sensitive about, he said no, he was being gross and a jerk, blocked him right after talking with my husband. Talked to other female friends in our group and apparently he had been doing the same to them as well, why? Ugh. Haven't talked to him in 8 years, he was a great friend but nope, i love my husband.
Losss sass during these cheater stories is my life blood.
It's the continuing contact during the past 5 years that does it for me.
I don't know what things were like 5 years ago when she lost her dad. Maybe she wasn't even in her right mind. Grief can fuck you up really badly.
But getting back in touch when you've moved on, changed jobs even, chatting sporadically for years? I mean, come on now.
Jane see op as a threat and was trying to run op out of the company and her plan backfired on Jane story2
I don't understand how her father passing away would be a good excuse for cheating. The fact that that was what she thought of after that just shows she have thought for a long while.
Yeah, I was a wreck when my mom passed away suddenly.
But I sought comfort and pleasure from my partner, because why the hell would I go elsewhere?! So gross.
I love her. I would never want to disrespect her.
And she has done the same with me when her parents passed away.
Grief is not an excuse for cheating, not even being "too drunk" is a valid excuse!
I've had alcohol poisoning a couple times and I was still able to understand what actions would be bad.
Cheaters will cheat, no matter what. And if they do it once they will most likely do so again & again.
And sadly in this case it is not just the spouse that is suffering from her actions but the children also. She is breaking her family.
I hope Op doesn't do the common, and very stupid thing, thing by "keeping the infidelity" a secret, because at some point she won't and she'll make Op out to be the unfaithful one, or claim he was abusive or emotionally/physically neglectful.
Cheaters do that bs all the freaking time! Stop it before it starts, that's the only good thing to do.
She has either cheated or is thinking about it. As far as her not being hypervigilant about her phone? Maybe she thought it was safe because she wasn’t expecting a text from AP.
Story 1.. I would open and let him read it. Cause there be nothing but a dirty joke or something
If someone messaged my husband after midnight and it wasn't an emergency, there would be big problems. NTA. But I'm pretty sure your wife is cheating, could be emotional, could be physical.
When you add comments in a softer voice like "because she is" it makes me giggle
How do you repair a marriage where cheating has occurred without separation or divorce being on the table? What is the incentive for the cheating spouse to correct and atone for their behavior?
I had an acquaintance that was in a relationship with a partner who cheated repeatedly and she told him she would never leave him. I was like why did you tell him that? He won’t stop until he’s tired of running around now because there aren’t any immediate consequences for him that have an impact that he cares about.
Every relationship should have standards that everyone involved knows that although I will love you forever that doesn’t mean that I will live with you forever through disrespect, abuse, dishonesty or cheating.
Paternity test both kids.
The majority of us single women, who have waited for a man like hers, are unbelievable angry at her choices. Nope, loosing your father is an excuse to Cheat. That’s when you seek refuge with your husband. 😂 no excuses.
S2: karma at its best. 😂😂😂 thank you so much for your videos. The make my day. 😋
If the wife was truly 100% regretting what she did then she wouldve cut ALL contact with the lover, she'd want to get as far away from his as possible no matter how long it had, supposedly, been since she cheated.
Also, only happened once? Suuuuuure it did. Imo theres about a 5% chance it was a one off. Yes, unfortunately mistakes do happen & you learn ur lesson, grow from it & move on & try to improve urself. You DO NOT keep in contact with that person out of courtesy or anything else, youd cut them from ur life & keep as far away as posible. Shes lying & trickle truthing imo
s1: NTA. wife is comfortable lying to you and has begun the trickle-truthing and sugarcoating. if she's casually messaging an "old work-friend", why is this the first time you're hearing about it? and also why would she cry over telling you? wife is defo going behind your back. yes i am the devil on your shoulder, get her out of your life.
Feels like a piece of crap but only confessed when she was caught 😑
you can ask
but i would be amazed if she had not deleted the history and that conversation