Drama At The Start Of The Grand Finale! | Leg 7 Start Highlights | The Ocean Race
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- The Grand Finale of The Ocean Race is officially underway as the sailors departed The Hague and embarked on their journey to Genova earlier today. Team Holcim-PRB who crossed the leaving gate first and are now leading the way towards the Mediterranean in Leg 7, and a serious collision between 11th Hour Racing Team and GUYOT environnement - Team Europe left both boats with serious damage.
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Rosie's Reaction Captures - the shock - of the global community in love with this race.
Hearts are shattered for every team.
Ähm, no. This is racing and when you try to move boundaries you sometimes lose, like party animal Escoffier.
As you later say, let’s hope that all the shore crews can turn this around in a very short timeframe and they’re able to resume their race and at least have a chance to score some points.
We all hope for a great competitive season ending 🙏🙏👏👏🤩🤩😍😍⛵️⛵️
Attack from the Back! Good Luck 11th Hour!!!
Do you believe in fairy tales too? A god? 😂😂
In the 2021-22 Sail GP series the Brits collided with Japs causing serious damage to one of the hulls and the shore teams banded together to get them back in the water for racing the next day. That series has all teams sharing information such that the field is kept even and it’s tactics that allows one to win.
As for fairies, no but Gremlins are something else!!
Matchplan from now on: Team Malizia (or Biotherm) wins Leg 7 so that Holcim gets only 4 points or less. Guyot helps 11th Hour reparing their boat and 11th Hour rejoyns Leg 7, gets 4th place/2 points. And 11th Hour is Winner over all in the end because of In-Port Score. Would be so cool! I hope the best for all of them! almost all of them ;)
That's a lot of "what ifs" but yeah, hope everything goes alright for Charlie. If anyone didn't deserve this it was him and the rest of the 11th hour racing team.
I believe if they will get redress.
you can't call this a Gran Finale.
Julia, you got that right! I was checking and double checking the math. Gooooooo Malizia
Let's hope so! Charlie has to rejoin the race under all circumstances! I wish him and his crew the necessary luck!
these boats are not meant to buoy race
No, but it proves they are dangerous to have sailing around. The crew can't have a proper lookout
Amazing no one was hurt in this.
The boat with 2 points takes out the leaders with 33 points - unbelievable.
Exactly. Can't believe. They've sucked for the entire 6 month race and now the just ruin the finish of the race.
Never forget that while you're leaving your frustration leak out with this comment, a race needs a last position runner and although they are last, they still represent the absolute elite of sailing. Are you in a position that enables you to say they've sucked... IDK, but just respect man
@@enzocamporelli4060 Yes. You are right. They are the top of the sailers. Definitely. For me, everyone in this race is a winner. It's just a pity that the race won't have a normal finish. Probably.
@@enzocamporelli4060 define ‘elite’ lmao
@@enzocamporelli4060 No, Elite of sailing is not doing mistakes like that....
being german myself I'm of course with team Malizia. But in all fairness I think the race should be halted and repeated until 11th hour racing has made their repairs. Totally unfair to them otherwise.
Exactly correct!! TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!! FIX THEM THEN RESTART
TOTAL EFFING BS- typical of the world today tho- un effing real
Entspannt euch mal. Die Refs sind in der Beratung, ob es eine Sonderregelung gibt. Zumindest so der O-Ton im englischen Eurosport.
@@helmutwilhelm8918 ?
Agree 💯. As an American I am with Charlie for the win but the Malizia team has won my heart
I experienced exactly the same condition as 11 hr before they got hit. I was a the rudder as a teenager 3-ton boat. I turned left to avoid crash. My dad threw at the rudder to turn sharply right to lessen the force as we could have a contact in the same direction of two objects. Close call we avoided a crash and raised a protest.
Avoid contact at all cost even if one has right of way!!!
Charlie had angel guard indeed that he didn’t get crushed by Guyot and the recoil of the boom.
So wie wir es gelernt haben. Das Manöver des letzten Augenblicks.
Such a pity, for all involved!
As much as Guyot clearly didn’t manœuvred safely, I am not surprised to see this happening…offshore flying boats, reduced crew, concealed cockpits seem a great recipe for collisions on onshore racing!
Unfortunately you are absolutely right
Was soll man denn davon halten. Solche Segelasse und dann zu dusselig ein Match zu bestreiten. 😢
I agree, these boats with limited visibility are not made for such narrow race tracks.
Someone should be in visual contact with the competition at all times. There is no valid excuse. Col reg. #8(avoiding collision) was followed by 11th hour unsuccessfully. Extremely irresponsible and completely avoidable actions
@@kailaniandi absolutely. Hard to say but it was not the best seamanship!
Es tut mir so sehr Leid für die zwei Boote, zum Glück wurde niemand Verletzt, viel Glück an die noch verbliebenen Segler und pass gut auf euch auf. Es war so schön und spannend euch zu verfolgen 👌
rose expression on the news !.. priceless! .... best competition to follow ever!
This last leg should have been postponed to allow 11th Hour RT to get back to the race
I would say 11th gets a redress that equals time lost.
I would say this is where we have arrived, boats doing 20 knots plus with crew below deck, who’s keeping a look out in these tight racing conditions? Both boats are at fault read the rules to avoid collision at all cost even when you have right of way.
Ein großes und für alle sehr unverdientes Unglück! Das schmälert auch eine gute Plazierung der nun Führenden. Sehr sehr schade!
Utter BS. Just an accident.
Looks like this type of event is within the rules. 11th Hour is likely to get compensation points for the overall win.
Terrible, how was it that this terrible collision happened Nial? Horrific! We are praying that repairs are quick and both boats continue to Italy. We feel awful for Charlie.
What a Drama. At least nobody got injured. I hope 11th Hour get back racing.
It`s pure tragic... more than a third of the fleet left the race.
Thank God, nobody on board both ships was harmed.
Fantastic coverage. Well done. My heart goes out to the 11th Hour & Guyot teams -- even though it appears that Guyot was at fault for the collision. What a race. The days ahead will determine whether or not we have 3, 4 or 5 boats to finish this race.
Screw guyot. That is not acceptable.
My heart goes out to both teams involved in this collision. I hope they can patch it up and get back in the race. However, I don't think it's gonna be quick. That damage is pretty extensive.
I've sailed/raced enough to know shuff happens (even for the most skilled sailers), but that is some bad seamanship and it could be a career killer for the skipper/helmsman/crew.
I just saw on Twitter that onboard Guyot one calmly filmed the approach till the collision instead of yelling at the helmsman. Or must the observer keep his mouth shut? If so why was this person the only one on deck? In such a course someone has to stay at the bow to inform the helmsman, I think.
the fact that only the helmsman cn see whats going on is crazy
Analysis: 1. No crew on bow on Guyot to call for helm who is unsighted. 2. Helm on Guyot lost count of boats ahead so missed possibility 11th was in hazard - cognitive overload when considering swing point for lay line? 3. 11th identifies the risk via crew on bow and then luffs up to try and give space for Guyot to tack, in event wrong decision, the lost boat speed probably results in collision rather than a very close near miss had they held course and speed.
Re start the leg in 48 hours' for all boats, gutted 😢 11 hour should be time compensated at end of leg to allow for repairs,
this will undoubtedly dispirit all teams but hopefully those still racing will find it within themselves not to be destracted. My heart sank.
Unbelievable and uncomprehensive that 5 sailers did not see the other boat! And incredible the bad luck of Charlie who ceded Guyot his sparemast! An epic tragedy which could not have been worse. Looks like the script for a movie! I respect Benjamin's decision to retire and cross my fingers and toes that Charlie will be able to fix the boat in notime and resumes the race and gets the points he needs for the overall victory. Malama and her team deserve it. And I say that as Malizian.
It's unfortunately one of the issues with these boats which are designed to race off shore and not for close quarters match racing. Visibility from under/behind the coach roof is terrible...
@@BilldalSWE GUYOT know this and the skipper chose not to have a bowman. 11th Hour Racing had a bowman. 100% the fault of the skipper and not a boat design issue.
@@Aoi_Fans Oh I'm not saying it's not the skippers fault. Only that the boat design is PART of the reason it happened.
@@BilldalSWE Nonsense. The skipper must always adapt. GUYOT needed a bowman or arrange other lookout. Maybe he slept badly or had a headache and that was another PART of the reason. It does not work like that.. Don't talk about other PARTS of a reason irrelevant.
This situation where the starboard boat turns up and the port boat bears down and hits the starboard boat in the stern is something I have been in, witnessed in person, and seen on video. I have also avoided it as the starboard boat by turning down instead of up because the then the stern moves away instead of toward the port tack boat. Just a hard thing to be in and seems like a subtle/tricky solution, but it's there.
It's a classic mistake. Unfortunately I have also done this, once, trying to bear away too late while the other boat luffed. Same result, I hit the other boat broadside, one meter forward of the transom, at full speed. All my fault. Very embarassing.
But this incident shows how little the helmsmen on these boats actually see of the world around them!
see real emphathy Rosie and Will
If 11th hour wouldn’t have headed up and killed their speed, I think the port tack boat would have been able to duck them without hitting. There is a rule that says the starboard tack boat can’t alter course to prevent the port boat from keeping clear, but not sure if it applies in this situation.
NOOOO CHARLIE!!! So sad for his team, hope they can make it ot Geneva at least
So very sorry for both teams! Would have been great to have all boats in the final leg. Best of luck for Eleventh hour racing team to join the race!
That’s close quarters racing for you people. The show will go on regardless.
Undamaged boats mutually agree to restart in one week.
That would be unfair for Holcim because when their mast came down no one even said a word about re starting the leg
@@lovropirkl2672 another boat didn't ram their mast...in violation of the rules of the race.
Is it confirmed?
I dont know why you think sport is fair... This is the same in motor racing or any other sport for that matter. At Lemans, when you get crashed out, the race doesn't pause and resume until you are repaired.
@@timlolxP the rules of the race allow for redress in a situation like this.
Bill OHaras words are close to impossible to understand, any chance we could see the transcript somewhere?
To make this kind of error at this level is unreal. Lot to learn about this. Is there boat to boat communication for crossing situations on the racing buoy parts of the race? Where were the leeward eyes on Guyot??? You have got to have situational awareness in buoy racing. I've been watching Charlie for years and thought he had it this time.
Since when do yachts sale on a race tracks!
What were they playing at? It’s so bad it almost looks deliberate? Firstly they should have tacked away to lay the mark but continued on with no right of way. Then they failed to bear away under 11th Hour’s stern. With a foil sticking out, the bear away must be even stronger to avoid any contact yet they simply continued on their merry way. 11th hour were completely in the right and have been dealt a very poor hand.
Just heartbreaking l followed 11th from the start only thing left to do is cry...l pray they get things sorted out to finish this leg...the devil is a damn LIAR..
Das Schwert des Damokles hat wieder zugestochen.
It all ended in tears.
Yup this race and 11th Hour got me into sailing. Sad if this derails a chance for victory.
It's incredible that at this level of competition and professionalism (theoretical...), the skipper didn't post a leeward team to keep an eye on the sailing fleet. All the more so when sailing on the port tack, so not priority...
Last place team takes out prospective winning team through egregious lack of situational awareness. Inexcusable.
Es war mit Sicherheit keine Absicht! Hier handeln Menschen und die machen nun mal auch Fehler, manchmal auch eklatant schwere!
Wäre ich Dutreux, ich wäre untröstlich.
@@mariokramer6799 doesn't matter if it was on purpose Team Europe were still in the wrong for doing it
5 boats, 2 ahead of Guyot, only 1 in play, and they don't know where it is. BS.
That's what happens when you put a F1 on a Kart track.
The organizers just wanted a show and well they managed to break four boats. What a shame !
That was such an arrogant display of sailing from Guyot. And for what? One boat length's worth of space at the very start of a 2,532 mile leg. Ridiculous.
On the short downwind to Mark 2 - Guyot was very aggressive moving inside Malizia.
IMOCA's are not dinghies... but dinghies are where all these sailors learned their craft.
The question is : will "11th hour" receive a time compensation for a collision they aren't responsible for ?
We will retain that Guyot adventure in this Ocean race is a real nightmare.... everything, absolutely everything went wrong.
Bumping a concurrent, moreover the leader and the expected final winner is just "terrible"
Benjamin Dutreux is still a young sailor as his german team mates, in fact his experience on IMOCA foiler (for the last VDG Benjamin ran a "daggerboard" IMOCA, not a foiler) is quite recent, Benjamin is not comparable to Kevin, Boris, or Paul.
This team showed a lack of experience that cost a lot to the team and to the race.
Most of time, breaking a mast IS NOT a simple mechanical failure as alledged falsy by Kevin, most of time breaking a mast is a consequence of a previous mistake.
Holcim PRB ran like a perfect swiss watch the first 3 steps (except bad performances in in-port races), things began to go wrong when Holcim team decided to change almost all the crew, and the result has been IMMEDIATELY catastrophic, suddenly they broke a mast at an unexpected moment (everyone expected to break a mast most likely in the southern, not in the atlantic).
Biotherm had also changed almost all his crew and had been close to make comparable fatal mistake on the same leg BUT, it seems that Paul Meilhat did take into account that his team was unexperimented, and so he decided to slow down a lot to preserve the boat.
For Holcim this was quite different... as for "11th hour" and "Team Malizia", Kevin was here to win the more he could, so in fact he pushed the boat far more than Paul Meilhat.... completely forgetting that his new team was lacking some experience compared to the previous leg, this has been fatal.... he broke a mast, this is not a question of fortune/misfortune, this is a consequence of bad decisions.
Niall the usual commentator had underlined himself the risks linked to such massive changes in a team.... Holcim, after winning 3 legs in a row, seemed to get overconfident at this moment, ignoring such basic considerations.
For Biotherm, this is different. The team has never played the final "win". Due to the fact that they were not technically ready, the boat being brand new, only six months at the start of Ocean race, compared to the other teams. So the main point was not performance but rather to show as much possible some possible future talented women (Biotherm being a division of l'Oreal, making cosmetics mainly for women. As a reminder, Biotherm has been the sponsor of missing Florence Arthaud well known by thoses who know a little on offshore race).
On an IMOCA you pay immediately any "big" mistake because the increased speed compared to a VO65 increases the damages, in a VO65 you can make more "big" mistakes before a fatal issue.
On an IMOCA due to a very short crew, only 4 sailors, changing a member with a less experimented one MAKES IMMEDIATLELY huge differences. "11th hour" and "Team Malizia" did have a different management, they always kept from leg to leg a core basis of well established sailors, they just changed one member not more.
On an IMOCA a team mate IS NOT SPECIALIZED as on a VO65 or Americas' cup. On an IMOCA all sailor must be able to do everything due to the fact that IMOCA is run in "duo" (so, as said by Charlie Dalin, this is far closer to the french solo race than british fully crewed race).... because the two others are generally sleeping. This is much harder to find the good team mates than in a VO65 because being a good sailor on IMOCA requires multiple skills and especially clerveness. On an America's cup boat, being a grinder doesn't require to be clever. You just have to comply exactly with a process decided by the skipper, you just do as Forrest Gump, but "grind" instead of "run", no need to understand meteo, Adrena sailing management software, multiple sensors data and alarms (all being rather automatically managed by calculators on an AC75), foil settings...
In offshore sailling with short crew, this is absolutely not the same thing. From many aspects IMOCA are more complex than a AC75, because you just ask to an AC75 to do a very short coastal races (and in fact that matches more an in-port race as we see in an Ocean race than real coastal races as Ocean Race Europe) in a very restricted range of meteo condition, an IMOCA must run everywhere on the globe under every kind of condition.
But IMOCA learned a lot of America's cup. "Wing mast profile" rotating on a ball bearing had been invented by a french engineer for the Larry Ellison's Oracle America's cup catamaran. Auric main sail, old concept coming from very old ages, that authorizes a greater sail area, also originated from America's cup who revived the concept thanks to modern carbon fiber that authorizes a rigid and ultra light "gaff" on the top of the main sail. Foils come indirectly from America's cup, because the source of modern foils, the first REALLY WORKING, and not the many various prototypes and attempts more or less working on a sailboat (foils having been in fact successfully experimented some years ago in the 60's on a US military patrol boat prototype), is the famous Hydroptere catamaran who impressed Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle Corp) more than the french themselves who quickly forgot it. Hydroptere being the spirit of the future America's cup catamaran AC50 class. Hydroptere reached 51,36 knots back in 2009. Hydroptere is the real birth date of hydrofoil applied to sailboat because this is the first project ever where renowed engineers coming from major aeronautic companies (Dassault and Airbus) rationally modelized the "fly" applied to a sailboat, flying rules being the same as known in aeronautic. Theses engineers have been able to use the powerfull computer and software tools from their companies to do a rigorous job, this had never been really done before. All previous attempts were only "some hacks" not really working most of the time. Foiling concept for sailboat is in fact a very old dream. People tried to make fly boat in the early ages of navigation, but with no success as a superb Leonard de Vinci futuristic machine draw that in fact has never proved to be ever a slightest valid concept. This is the reason why Airbus, a european company, is from long time a prime partner of New-York based America's cup syndicate, because historically Airbus along with Dassault can be indirectly considered as the fathers of modern hydrofoils modelized for sailboat (and not for motorized ship where things are in fact easier as long as you have a very powerffull propulsion source, so it is not so difficult to "foil" in such condition. Foiling, but only with natural wind, this is another problem).
"indirectly" because these were originally engineers from Airbus and Dassault who just loved sailing during their hobbies, some of them were even retired, and they first worked on this matter as an hobby to help Hydroptere project. When Hydroptere later grew up more consistently, thanks to the free contribution of theses engineers who proved the concept of foiling sailboat, Airbus (but not Dassault) took an official part of the project along with DCNS (today Naval Group the french military shiypyard currently world leader).
On the last two legs, "11th hour" made critical choices by integrating Charlie Dalin and after Franck Cammas.
For those who know really what is the offshore sailing.... these guys are simply two BIG stars and the result has been very very very clear.... "11th hour" won the last two legs leading almost all the time, compared to previous legs where "11th hour" was always trying to catch up the lead.
For next ocean races I don't want to see so much improvisation :
- first : only experimented skipper because as boats are pushed a lot, the risk to break is in fact much higher than in a solo VDG where "alone" the sailor takes very few risks compared to an Ocean Race.
- second : wise management of the teams, as done by "11th hour" and "Team Malizi", changing 1 team member from leg to leg, but not more. If for some reasons we must change two members, so we must chose ONE VERY VERY EXPERIMENTED on IMOCA foiler, with possibly one newbie BUT NOT TWO NEWBIES !!!! This is the reason why, following an injury, Boris chose Yann Elies to replace him because Yann is a senior sailor knowing very well IMOCA.
Nobody can convince me that Holcim didn't pay the last place boat to take out the first place boat just so they could sneak in from behind to win it all. Thankfully 11th hour wins the overall race.
Quel dommage pour Guyot et 11 th Hour ...Désolée pour eux .
Screw guyot they t boned a fellow racer and leader after 11th hour gave guyot their spare mast they should just go back to port an help fix 11th hr before they even touch their boat.
Who knew fleet racing boats from inside the boat was a bad idea.
Inexcusable collision! With so much at stake for this final leg, there is sadly no fair solution.
Canceling start, postponing restart to allow the two boats to perform necessary repairs would unjustly penalize the three leaders.
Collisions in racing, wether intentional or not is why I gave up racing yachts over 20 years ago!
Very sad turn of events and my heart goes out to 11th Hour team.
I expect both damaged boats to perform necessary repairs and set course for Italy and complete this final leg.
Don't worry Charlie, it'll buff right out 🤣🤣🤣Glad everyone is okay
This is why they need more boats. The race is rubbish with just 5 let’s be honest
Wtf Guyot… first you break your own boat twice, then you get penalised for carrying too many sails, and lastly you go break the leading boat? Honestly so disappointed this team was even allowed to enter this race in the first place
That's a bit harsh... However I wish that Guyot had a bowman in this situation
I believe the mast they are currently using is 11th hours backup mast
And so ends the mildly interesting Port racing exhibitions by boats made for open oceans. What a disaster. Doesn’t seem fair to continue when actions of another boat led to damage on the boats.
Yes, that is sailing, in the end it shows, that mistakes and wrong decisions are not only made by hobby skippers. It can happen to everybody!
This isn't going to attract anyone to watch sailing. What could have been a great race, ruined. I no longer care who wins as it wont be a fair result.
Perfectly stated- disappointment hardly describes it
I say what happens! Team 11 has already won the overall championship. All it takes is for them, is to resume the race and claim the correct time correction, that's it! it won! He will travel to Genoa doing unprecedented oceanic research on behalf of the cause for all to see on TV. Double victory!!! Basta cosi. Go Mālama #1
A shame accidents need to happen before people realise these boats are not build for around the cans races
If this event is sailed in terms of the ISAF Racing Rules of Sailing and a protest is lodged, Charlie Enright should be awarded redress for this incident. Redress would normally be the award of average points achieved for the series to date, by Charlie Enright - for the race or leg of the series in which he was prevented from finishing. Go figure where that would place him on the Race leaderboard.
Holcim should ask for a restart....who wants to win like this?
yeahh, it will be a half final... like a half nothing pizza 😇
Holcim! Part of the game. Dry your eyes..
@@MrGentlebutfirm all dried out.
@@00000000000101010 Good on ya..
Alter Schwede!!!
It all ended in tears.
Amazing sporting event ruined by total incompetence. No longer a race worth watching with only 3 boats left, this would have been an amazing final leg to watch.
Rosie at 17:57. Shock and dismay.
Malizia - warum habt ihr nicht die Segel gestrichen und seid umgekehrt? Gewinnen könnt ihr das Rennen wahrscheinlich eh nicht mehr, aber das wäre ein Zeichen größter, beispielhafter Kameradschaft gewesen, das man euch nie vergessen hätte. Aber ihr wärt absoluter Gewinner aller Herzen geworden!
Unbelievable
I can‘t believe what I see.
What an absolute gong show.
Red Flag. Abortem a partida.
Who didn’t see this coming on super close super fast inshore courses
the Formal way, would be, to protest the opponent and requesting for redress. Redress would usually be a average score of the past races and that wouldn't be to bad, tbh. Haven't studied the Sailing instruction, but i see no reason why 11 hours shouldn't get redress.
STARBOARD ! !
Should be a restart in a week.
Why? Name any other sport, where that would be the case?
@@timlolxP Table tennis and badminton ,
@@istra70 How would something comparable happen in these sports?
@@timlolxP Ooh i forgot synchronized swimming .....
@@istra70 okay now I get it
Was that on purpose? Last place takes out first?
Makes you wonder. But the race should have been suspended and delayed. Not fair on 11th Hour and now an incredibly anticlimactic end to what has been a great race.
@@clydewardle not fair at all
Of course not [on purpose]. Guyot is clearly at fault here, but responsibility and intent are different things. 11th hour were occluded by Guyot’s sails, and Guyot failed to check their blind spot.
@@barendgarvelinkEvery eye onboard 11th Hour was watching in disbelief as Guyot barrelled in on port tack, all on board asleep, not giving way. By the time Charlie tried to evade it was too late
@@jweitzenheimer I mean Guyot’s *own* sails creating the blind spot for Guyot’s helmsman. 11th hour had nothing to do with it, they’re completely in the right and nobody has suggested otherwise. That includes Guyot who have immediately acknowledged full responsibility.
carpe diem... director's cut ... congratulations !!!!
#7 seems not so lucky number , isn't ?
Just wondering what happened to the rule that if you sail over Starboard (Guyot), you have to give way to those sailing over Port-side (11th hour)? Guyot would be the guilty party here.
Or does this rule not apply on ocean racing?
I guess M. Dutreux has a few days to revise the Colregs while repairs are made. After he makes a grovelling apology to Charlie that is.
No AIS , Bowman , Get the simple things right first ?
Are you kidding me? This sort of thing happens on Wednesday night beer can races, not with world-class sailors with all sorts of digital computer read outs to tell everybody where everyone is. This, then the dismasting, then the delaminations, makes me want to completely tune out to this entire fiasco
I know that cycling and sailing are different.....but...In the Tour de France if the race leader goes down in a crash, the rest of the peleton, and especially the other contenders, sit up and wait for the race leader to get back on the road and catch up. It's not a rule that they do so. It's simple sportsmanship, and the desire to win a race based on performance, not a rival's bad luck. It is considered very bad form to attack when the race leader is incapacitated, especially if it was not their fault. The same should hold true here. 11th Hour was damaged due to the bad judgement of another boat's crew. The race should be neutralized and restarted after 11th Hour fixes their boat. It's the only sportsman-like solution. And if I were the skipper of Holcim, as soon as I learned that 11th Hour was holed, I would have turned back to port.
Untrue BS. In cycling only some teams/riders wait. Some others always attack. Like Quickstep. There is no rule for this. What is the diff with breaking the mast anyway?
@caskraker The obvious difference is that 11th Hour was holed by another boat. No fault of theirs or their equipment.
@@MikeK02048 So what? Hitting an object is a reason for a restart?
@@caskraker Not the same thing at all. Hitting something is your fault, and a navigational error. 11th Hour was hit, they didn't hit anything. And they are the race leaders for a race that spans months and tens of thousands of miles. Surely, you see the difference.
@@MikeK02048 Hitting something is almost never a fault. Just unlucky. Same here. You are just biased and not thinking clearly. For me, I don’t care who wins. It is a lame and unworthy edition of the Ocean Race anyway. But stating the others should stop and wait is completely off. Although it would suit this crap edition if 11th hour got some crazy compensation points and were announced winners.
The slowest boat in the fleet crashes into the fastest causing both to withdraw. How ironic.
The PR guys got in the way of the sailors, it seems
Lets go Team Malizia!
Daghe Munegu!
How could you not see that boat ? It is not that it is small... On the port tack - they need to be double observant .... Who was on watch ? .... This is plain stupidity
So sad . Thougts are with great sailing team 11hour.
Oh my. At 5:00 I actually said “what the f___?” at the computer.
Lmao!! I KNOW
Commentators on the broadcast need a better understanding of how sailboat racing and the rules work! In the live broadcast they basically gave up on 11th Hour Racing when the MOST LIKELY OUTCOME will be redress granted for an incident that was clearly ‘no fault of her own’ for 11th Hour Racing. Less fluff for non sailors, and more accurate commentary for the larger audience who are actually sailors!
What redress is appropriate? If holcim win this leg with the other two boats not far behind is the racing committee going to give the points to 11th hour?
Commentator is Dee Caffari. Are you seriously suggesting she doesn’t understand sail racing?
If this event is sailed in terms of the ISAF Racing Rules of Sailing and a protest is lodged, Charlie Enright should be awarded redress for this incident. Redress would normally be the award of average points achieved for the series to date, by Charlie Enright - for the race or leg of the series in which he was prevented from finishing. Go figure where that would place him on the Race leaderboard.
@@barendgarvelinkshe literally skipped turn the tide on plastic in 2018 and was apart of team SCA in 2014 lol
A port starboard? Little late to make a hack move like that.
A rookie mistake
! Benjamin please go back to the basics of the regatta, it's more careful
the laser is formative and solid
Well that Guyot wow I would sell that boat. If it wasn’t for bad luck they would have no luck at all. I love the cometary Guyot trying to put pressure on 11th hour 😂😂😂 11th hour on starboard not sure how you could pressure on everyone. Geez what a shit show. Oh well, disaster for one is gold for someone else. I am happy for team Melissa. Go you good thing.. 👍💥🏴☠️
They should have suspended and postponed the leg. Terrible decision to have the leading team lose the race through a crash that wasn’t their fault. It would have been easy with the boats so close to The Hague to delay.
Delay by how long though? We don't know how easy the damage will be to fix.
No doubt Charlie has already been reviewing Rule 62!
@@tiagdvideo 48 hours would probably be enough to repair the damage. You could even restart with the boats maintaining their time advantages around the last mark before the crash
It’s sailing, they can’t do that
Life is cruel, 11th Hr could of avoided the collision & then protested Guyote, read the rules even when you have right of way you should make every effort to avoide a collision. Why suspend the race it's not F1 or Moto GP. the course is clear & open to race.
@chantalrubino337 I agree in principal however 11th hour has right of way and these are professional sailors. Charlie enright- the skipper of 11th hour would’ve expected guyot to keep clear and the manoeuvrability of the imoca’s isn’t great so by the time he realised guyot was keeping their course, it was too late.
Noooooo 😭
It looks like Guyot took 11th out! They swerved twice before lining them up. Bad sportsmenship
To put it plain and simple: It is no longer a fair race!
WOW OUT OF NO WHERE ONE TEAM FORGET HOW TO WORK A BOAT?
リスタートしかないでしょう？このレースの成立は不公平ですよ。一旦レースをキャンセルして11Hour Racingの艇体の修復を待ってレースを再開すべきだと思います。
基本的なルールを守れなかったGuyotは失格（全レースDSQ)になるのかなぁ。自分、「ポート・スターボードのケースだけは一番つまらないから起こすな」と言われて育ちました。
それが出来ないのであれば、その前のレースを持って最終レースとするかの判断ですかね。レースの開催者としては最終フィニッシュ地点を盛り上げたいでしょうから、それをアリとすると、このレースは全体に対しては影響を与えないか、低いポイントのレースとするかの判断になります。
どう考えても全部無理ですよね。被害者が優勝の権利を剥奪されるケースがあるなら、悪意のある参加者が優勝の可能性のある艇に対してこの行為を繰り返したったいい訳ですから。
Hate to say it but that sure looked like it was on purpose. The way and where they hit them they couldn’t be making a turn around the bouie.
I get more and more the feeling that guyot is kind of a team of dösbaddels
Was ein Müll. Was können die für ein ausgelutschtes Boot was auseinander bricht? Und einen kollabierten Mast?
@@CooCaa-ru7mp nimm's nicht zu ernst, ja das Boot hat wohl die beste Zeit hinter sich. Trotzdem sehr ärgerlich wie das Manöver verhauen wurde. Der letzte knippst den ersten aus, ist einfach frustrierend zu sehen.
I once heard that sailboats shouldn't be green... go figure!
@@komplexx3682 ja und im Import Rennen 2 Tage vorher haben sie komplett dominiert, shit happens.
@@pierpalumbo415 Guyot is pitch black. Go figure.
Closed cockpits must be forbidden !!! not spectacular also
And next you will demand they get rid of the jacuzzi . 😃🇺🇸
Does take away from the thrill of the 65 boats.
Such an un necessary collision.
this is just so sad overall :(
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!!!
poor camera choice
Absolutely awful television …. They cut away from the collision very obviously only a split second away…. Someone in the control room wasn’t watching! 0/10!