Was für ein Glück das es damals noch keine Berufsgenossenschaften gab. Mit kurzen Lederhosen und Sandalen in der Blechverarbeitung wäre heute ein absolutes No-Go! Auf jeden Fall muss man die damalige Arbeitsvorbereitungen und Abläufe mit sehr gut beurteilen.
Lovely footage of the making of the Bf 108 as I never seen it before. Obviously it was filmed in summer time as many was wearing Tyrol shorts and sandals!! It very evident that the Bf 109 derived from the Bf 108 including sharing many construction methods and sheets covering and riveting. Good job and thanks for sharing this very interesting video 👍👍👍
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What a great design of German engineering. I too, first saw this aircraft in the 1960's, watching James Garner steal one from a German base to make his escape! What a great utility/observation platform as well. Love the sandals and lederhosen!
What is incredible is that we’re now 90 years after this film was made and aircraft are still made exactly that way. They even use the same tools such as “Cleecos” to line up sheet metal parts prior to riveting. The rivet guns haven’t changed either. I know this how? Many trips to aircraft manufacturers plants as a US government inspector.
Let me see if I have this correct: two guys in sandals, dressed for Oktoberfest, assembled an entire aircraft from pieces, by hand, a rivet gun and buck-bar. And thousands were made. Unreal. German engineering is unbelievable.
Roger Voss This is not a minimalistic factory. This was one of the most advanced works of it's time. You shouldn't compare it to the big purpose built American arsenals ofcourse. This was no mass production. Yet...
+ZerokillerOppel1 - I was admiring of the minimalism, in engineering or production the simplest solution that does the job is best. 'Elegant' solutions. When I said "how advanced this was then, and ready for WWII" it referred mostly to the aircraft as being advanced and ready for wartime conversion, but it also referred to the factory itself. Relatively easy to set up production anywhere, with minimal resources for tools & forms needed, the only limit other than raw materials is training the workers.
James Garner flew the Bucker Bestmann I believe in the movie The Great Escape. I always thought it was a BF108 until I saw this vid. Well, you learn something every day! Possibly one or more examples have survived. Looks like a trim little speeder. Thanks.
They used it in Spain under the denomination L-15. One is in the "Museo del Aire" in Cuatro Vientos , Madrid www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Europe/Spain/Cuatro_Vientos/Cuatro_Vientos/N1001_L.15-2.htm
Neat ! I sat in one on the ground, designed a tail emblem for it. Later the owner was basking in applause on approach. If he read lips he'd have known they were yelling, 'Gear Down!'
Nice to see this early , more craftman-like version of Messerschmitt's construction method. Wonder if those ribbed fuselage segments were heat-treated after forming?
What an elegant airplane design. Every pilot must itch to fly one. The spring-loaded fasteners being installed with pliers to hold together sheets of aluminum for riveting, sometimes referred to as dagger clamps, are called cleco fasteners in the U.S. after their manufacturer, The Cleveland Company. I always assumed that Cleco invented the fastener, as they have been used here since the 1930s, but their appearance in this film makes me wonder. Perhaps they were licensed or sold in Germany.
The Me-108 is hardly a war plane so I'm somewhat surprised they flanged the fuselage sections like they did. Fantasy of Flight has one being restore and it's taking some time. Apparently, many of the parts are magnesium alloys. I worked in a half dozen airplane factories and never saw Magnesium except as castings, such as landing light brackets or sight gauges for hydraulic fluid. Making this film must have been a bit of work in itself.
yeah I am here after paul recommended it too, they did use filler on the body. You have to love youtube especially as an invaluable reference for obscure details. It may have taken months without the internet to research all the info in this short silent film
The history of the Bu181 given in the description is comprehensive and accurate, but the film has nothing to do with a Bücker Bestmann. The Bestmann has fixed gear, is constructed mostly of wood and has a four cylinder HM504 The aircraft in the film is all metal, has retractable gear and has an 8 cylinder inverted "V" engine. It is clearly a Messerschmitt Bf 108 Taifun with a Hirth HM 508 engine.
16:34 - is that an electrical harness running front to back along the middle of the canopy? I'm no expert, not by a long shot, but that seems like the most inconvenient place to run a bundle of wires or cables.
I thought the same thing at first. I think it's a curtain though... to block the sun. It looks like it slides down on the three curved rods that follow the shape of the canopy.
I always wondered how they assembled planes of this era. It’s really so simple with the right tooling.👍🏻. Restorers should see this video. Somebody send this to Kermit Weeks! He’s restoring a Bf 108 right now!
Back in these days, the Lederhose wasn´t only worn at the Oktoberfest. It was everyday clothing. In fact, it is still today. In many smaller villages all over Bavaria, there are many people still wearing them in everyday life. I live in a small village in Bavaria, about 5 km away from the Austrian border. I wear them everyday. They are very comfortable, literally indestructible and look just really good.
Plus, it being the 30s and with the global depression and all, I would imagine many workers who didn't have protective clothing might have trouble affording them.
Central Air in factories was something that wasn't available, so wearing them in hot factories made things a bit more comfortable. Also the less you wore meant less to get snagged when working in tight places. German workers were highly skilled and careful.
You're looking at state-of-the-art German small-production "sport-modelle" plane construction, in Bavaria, DE, ca.1937-39 - OSHA (or anything like it, esp. in Deutscheland) did not exist yet. Plus, those assemblers undoubtedly had well-developed calloused surfaces on their hands from handling/hand-forming aluminum and light-steel airframe and outer-skin parts for at least 8 - 10 hours/day in that build plant. Some of the machine-hands would have worn goggles for eye-protection when drilling or fine-trimming, where small bits might be flying around, but there was none (or very little, and then only in the background)of that sort of work shown here.
That is the model of plane James Garner and his friend(the guy going blind) took from the Germans and flew to try and escape in the great escape movie.
this is the plane that ends up in hollywood movies that I thought they didnt have the budget for a Bf109 and had to to put cammo and crosses on a some civil aircraft.
Not many, if any - they were being very careful where there were any sharp edges or protrusions, and were all pretty obviously skilled and experienced assemblers/formers. Hands toughened/calloused from the work, no doubt, as well. In assembly/hand-forming work like that, often enough, gloves can be as much of a hindrance as a protection, for skilled workers.
Very interesting, must be before war or in early war years as many plans were manufactured by forced labor from the labor camps in poor conditions. The labor camp museum in Berlin is very interesting gives a insite into those times.
Yes General Patton was right, it was the most senseless war ever. Did you know that Admiral Chester Nimiz was German and spoke fluent Gernan language ?
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Who needs gloves when that very material itself yearns for the touch of the skilled german-craftsmans hand? Just kidding - it's due to hard earned* callosity. *fap fap fap :D
It is pretty easy to see why the Axis did so poorly when you look at how clumsy and inefficient their manufacturing methods are, here. They had obviously not yet come to understand assembly line, and turnkey assembly.
What would make you imagine you are seeing "slaves"? The pictured work is pre-war, mid-to-late 1930s, and those are skilled aircraft builders, NOT "slaves"!
Was für ein Glück das es damals noch keine Berufsgenossenschaften gab. Mit kurzen Lederhosen und Sandalen in der Blechverarbeitung wäre heute ein absolutes
No-Go! Auf jeden Fall muss man die damalige Arbeitsvorbereitungen und Abläufe mit sehr gut beurteilen.
Lovely footage of the making of the Bf 108 as I never seen it before. Obviously it was filmed in summer time as many was wearing Tyrol shorts and sandals!! It very evident that the Bf 109 derived from the Bf 108 including sharing many construction methods and sheets covering and riveting. Good job and thanks for sharing this very interesting video 👍👍👍
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love to see aircraft built from the ground up. awesome video!
What a great design of German engineering. I too, first saw this aircraft in the 1960's, watching James Garner steal one from a German base to make his escape! What a great utility/observation platform as well. Love the sandals and lederhosen!
Wow. 1930's. Beautiful craftsmanship.
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What is incredible is that we’re now 90 years after this film was made and aircraft are still made exactly that way. They even use the same tools such as “Cleecos” to line up sheet metal parts prior to riveting. The rivet guns haven’t changed either. I know this how? Many trips to aircraft manufacturers plants as a US government inspector.
priceless footage ！
Let me see if I have this correct: two guys in sandals, dressed for Oktoberfest, assembled an entire aircraft from pieces, by hand, a rivet gun and buck-bar. And thousands were made. Unreal. German engineering is unbelievable.
Actually, they still do..!
Minimalist 'factory', with few machines needed and wooden bucks.
Anyone else think of how advanced this was then, and ready for WWII?
Maybe if Boeing workers wore Lederhosen, they'd be able to build aeroplanes.
Roger Voss This is not a minimalistic factory. This was one of the most advanced works of it's time. You shouldn't compare it to the big purpose built American arsenals ofcourse. This was no mass production. Yet...
+ZerokillerOppel1 - I was admiring of the minimalism, in engineering or production the simplest solution that does the job is best. 'Elegant' solutions.
When I said "how advanced this was then, and ready for WWII" it referred mostly to the aircraft as being advanced and ready for wartime conversion, but it also referred to the factory itself. Relatively easy to set up production anywhere, with minimal resources for tools & forms needed, the only limit other than raw materials is training the workers.
I love the "safety" sandals.
Safety resides between their ears...
James Garner flew the Bucker Bestmann I believe in the movie The Great Escape. I always thought it was a BF108 until I saw this vid. Well, you learn something every day! Possibly one or more examples have survived. Looks like a trim little speeder. Thanks.
They used it in Spain under the denomination L-15. One is in the "Museo del Aire" in Cuatro Vientos , Madrid
www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Europe/Spain/Cuatro_Vientos/Cuatro_Vientos/N1001_L.15-2.htm
Very interesting ! Thanks
Neat ! I sat in one on the ground, designed a tail emblem for it. Later the owner was basking in applause on approach. If he read lips he'd have known they were yelling, 'Gear Down!'
Thank You for sharing this great vid ;)
You can see the 109 written all over that plane. Just upscaled.
The Bf 108 has very pleasing lines ,pity there aren't more of them around .
Nice to see this early , more craftman-like version of Messerschmitt's construction method. Wonder if those ribbed fuselage segments were heat-treated after forming?
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What an elegant airplane design. Every pilot must itch to fly one. The spring-loaded fasteners being installed with pliers to hold together sheets of aluminum for riveting, sometimes referred to as dagger clamps, are called cleco fasteners in the U.S. after their manufacturer, The Cleveland Company. I always assumed that Cleco invented the fastener, as they have been used here since the 1930s, but their appearance in this film makes me wonder. Perhaps they were licensed or sold in Germany.
Yup. I use em. Makes me wonder.
Because everything was invented in America and licensed to "the rest of the world". :-)) Including the Archemedes screw.
Far from an easy plane to fly.
Wonderful footage!
Nice lederhosen Fritz.
Photographic proof that *Head Banging Hard Rock* _is not required for pleasant viewing of good videography._
.....but it sure helps. :)
German engineering and perfection in manufacturing and testing.
Anyone know or have specific info about the kneeboard that the Pilot straps to his leg in the 16:32/34 mark(????
The Me-108 is hardly a war plane so I'm somewhat surprised they flanged the fuselage sections like they did. Fantasy of Flight has one being restore and it's taking some time. Apparently, many of the parts are magnesium alloys. I worked in a half dozen airplane factories and never saw Magnesium except as castings, such as landing light brackets or sight gauges for hydraulic fluid. Making this film must have been a bit of work in itself.
so this film was in my recommended when a certain Paul recommended to go watch it, hmm wonder how that happened
yeah I am here after paul recommended it too, they did use filler on the body. You have to love youtube especially as an invaluable reference for obscure details. It may have taken months without the internet to research all the info in this short silent film
The history of the Bu181 given in the description is comprehensive and accurate, but the film has nothing to do with a Bücker Bestmann. The Bestmann has fixed gear, is constructed mostly of wood and has a four cylinder HM504 The aircraft in the film is all metal, has retractable gear and has an 8 cylinder inverted "V" engine.
It is clearly a Messerschmitt Bf 108 Taifun with a Hirth HM 508 engine.
Thanks, we have completely changed the film description to correct this mistake. DANKE!
Magnífica construcción.
The 108 was a drill exercise for later building a fighter. The 108 and the 109 have everything in common except for engine and canons.
Excelente vídeo.
16:34 - is that an electrical harness running front to back along the middle of the canopy? I'm no expert, not by a long shot, but that seems like the most inconvenient place to run a bundle of wires or cables.
I thought the same thing at first. I think it's a curtain though... to block the sun. It looks like it slides down on the three curved rods that follow the shape of the canopy.
Thats why german things are the best. They made, make em with love.
Many of the factories used slave labor
No slave labor there at that time. It was built in the early 1930‘s.
I see a Nord "Norecrin " at Buenos Aires,Argentina;in 1980.This one was not in flight at that time.
I gotta put on my factory work shorts and sandals.
I confidently predict that, with time, they could be building two, maybe three, every year.
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I always wondered how they assembled planes of this era. It’s really so simple with the right tooling.👍🏻. Restorers should see this video. Somebody send this to Kermit Weeks! He’s restoring a Bf 108 right now!
Great footage. Notice how everyone’s wearing hard hat, steel toe capped boots and high vis vests.😂
And gloves!😂
As well as hearing protection, especially for those making the panels with their hammers...lol!
381st Model Group Not to mention the hearing protection when bucking rivets!🙀
The outfits look like they are ready for octoberfest.
Back in these days, the Lederhose wasn´t only worn at the Oktoberfest. It was everyday clothing. In fact, it is still today. In many smaller villages all over Bavaria, there are many people still wearing them in everyday life. I live in a small village in Bavaria, about 5 km away from the Austrian border. I wear them everyday. They are very comfortable, literally indestructible and look just really good.
Plus, it being the 30s and with the global depression and all, I would imagine many workers who didn't have protective clothing might have trouble affording them.
+ely miller I thought the same thing until I read gus23a comment. Very educational!
gus23a And what about the "Dirndl"? Must be invented by men. No way that's everyday wear too, right?
Central Air in factories was something that wasn't available, so wearing them in hot factories made things a bit more comfortable. Also the less you wore meant less to get snagged when working in tight places. German workers were highly skilled and careful.
Safety glasses and work gloves? who needs 'em.
You're looking at state-of-the-art German small-production "sport-modelle" plane construction, in Bavaria, DE, ca.1937-39 - OSHA (or anything like it, esp. in Deutscheland) did not exist yet. Plus, those assemblers undoubtedly had well-developed calloused surfaces on their hands from handling/hand-forming aluminum and light-steel airframe and outer-skin parts for at least 8 - 10 hours/day in that build plant. Some of the machine-hands would have worn goggles for eye-protection when drilling or fine-trimming, where small bits might be flying around, but there was none (or very little, and then only in the background)of that sort of work shown here.
Almost 80 years ago. Study your history about work safety...
No audio
It's a silent film.
Any still flying?
See ua-cam.com/video/nvZbgyHlzVs/v-deo.html
That is the model of plane James Garner and his friend(the guy going blind) took from the Germans and flew to try and escape in the great escape movie.
Donald Plesance was his name. English actor.
They used a Bücker Bü 181 Bestmann basic trainer.
they feed the machines with Alu stripes without wearing gloves ...
Bf 108 - the ME designation did not start until after the war began.
Fantacy of Flight out of Florida is renovating an original.. Check them out..They are on UA-cam..
Germans made some great planes , my favorite STUKA !!
Worst plane in the war.
And it only took 80 years for those goofy hair cuts to get back in style.
Recon? No armaments shown. Would like to know how control cables were strung. Another video? Thanks!
It's not a military plane at all.
all the tail is just supported with a ribbed skin??
Nabi as is the spitfire. Monocoque construction
It seems like they are working for the their pleasure.
this is the plane that ends up in hollywood movies that I thought they didnt have the budget for a Bf109 and had to to put cammo and crosses on a some civil aircraft.
All of this furtive activity while the rest of the world was at peace, and a few hundred miles away the French were enjoying wine and reparations.
If only Poland and France had seen what was happening!
Es un Taifun bf 108
I wonder how many Hans and Fritz's lost fingers by not wearing gloves?
Not many, if any - they were being very careful where there were any sharp edges or protrusions, and were all pretty obviously skilled and experienced assemblers/formers. Hands toughened/calloused from the work, no doubt, as well. In assembly/hand-forming work like that, often enough, gloves can be as much of a hindrance as a protection, for skilled workers.
Messerschmitt Bf 108 Tajfun
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Very interesting, must be before war or in early war years as many plans were manufactured by forced labor from the labor camps in poor conditions. The labor camp museum in Berlin is very interesting gives a insite into those times.
Por favor lo pueden editar en español!
By the way im an aircraft mechanic. Licensed for A-320 series.
General Patton.
WE FOUGHT THE WRONG ENEMY.
Yes General Patton was right, it was the most senseless war ever.
Did you know that Admiral Chester Nimiz was German and spoke fluent Gernan language ?
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Have Kermit Weeks boys seen this?
Surely the Americans would have built hindreds of their planes in the same time frame on an assembly line in a giant factory?
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no gloves! no OSHA in the fatherland
No eye protection of knee pads either.
Who needs gloves when that very material itself yearns for the touch of the skilled german-craftsmans hand?
Just kidding - it's due to hard earned* callosity.
*fap fap fap :D
@R Diaz YOU'RE GODDAM RIGHT!!!
Don't Bu 181 but Me 108 ...
Take me to your Lederhosen!
It is pretty easy to see why the Axis did so poorly when you look at how clumsy and inefficient their manufacturing methods are, here.
They had obviously not yet come to understand assembly line, and turnkey assembly.
Happily, working for the "FATHERLAND" Make GERMANY, GREAT AGAIN! NOW know were TRUMP,GOT THAT!
No safety googles !
So you're a Man without Hat... www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mckmh
LOTS OF KNOW NOTHING C COMMENTATORS, silly Safety Sallies
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no wonder they lost, willow run blew them away in every facit
This was before the war.
The doomed and the damned.
Amazing what you can do with a few million slaves.
What would make you imagine you are seeing "slaves"? The pictured work is pre-war, mid-to-late 1930s, and those are skilled aircraft builders, NOT "slaves"!
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