@@misters2837 I've got about 1200 hours in the T-28B and C as a test and cross country flight mech/E2P in VT-2, VT-6 and NARF Pensacola for 3 years in the late 60s. After volunteering with a group that rebuilt an 1820-86A for a resurrected B back in 2014, I got a ride in the finished bird with a retired navy pilot who had been an instructor at Whiting Field when I was there. I noticed a big difference in exhaust sound from what I remembered from the 60s - that smooth, almost deafening note at 52inHg was missing - still had good power though. I assume it came from the differences in new and old fuels - green 100/130 alkylate vs the original 1940s era leaded 115/140 purple that went away about 30 years ago and has only recently made a comeback. When supercharger HIGH was selected at 15,000 feet while climbing at a pretty good rate, it didn't give the same kick in the pants that I remembered, either. The old bird (whose every switch, lever, and gauge I can still visualize in total darkness) remains an impressive machine and needs no excuses in the presence of it's elder warbird brothers....
@@misters2837 Yes, the 9 cylinder radial engines with their 5/4 exhaust always sounded like they were missing on a cylinder. Only the high power runup rpm test knows for sure! But, the T-28Bs and T-28Cs that I flew in 1971 in VT-6 were equipped with the R-1820. The S-2C, C-1A, and Hu-16D were also equipped with the R-1820. Never heard of a R-1300. That must be the 7 cylinder engine in the T-28A that the Air Force flew.
@DavidParker-cf2km That Makes Sense NONE of them sound "RIGHT" the 5/4 9cyl B/C or the 7cyl A-Model! - They wanted you to always think there was something wrong with it! - They Sound like a V8 missing on 2 cylinders about 1 cylinder apart....so like Bang Bang Miss Bang Miss Bang Bang Bang.....I know, cuz I had a car that ran like that when I bought it! (Needed Tune Up!)
@donallen, thank you for your service during the not so cold Cold War. We were at or near SAC bases which had the B-36, C-124, KC-97 and KB-50. I remember that sound at takeoff, the drone when they flew high above us and the dishes rattling in the cabinets.
I love the guy running the engine in his front yard. I bet his neighbors love him too. I love air cooled engines no matter what they are in. The Rolls Royce Merlin and the Allison V12s are pretty bad ass too. That Curtis Wright R-1300 sounded like a galloping horse when it first fired off.
They were built about 5 miles from me in the East Hartford, CT "Headquarters" plant. What a campus they have/had over there. 600 acres I think, with their own airfield and buildings that go on and on. At the peak in the 80's that plant alone employed 60,000 people! (And they had several plants around the state!) Now, it's a sorry shadow of itself. Maybe 3500 people there, and only one other plant still going with a skeleton crew. Don't forget the SR71 Blackbird would not be what it was/is without Pratt solving the problem and coming up with a turbo/ram jet hybrid engine! Pure genius! Official speed of Mach 3.2 but reports from pilots getting close to 4 with plenty of throttle left, at 80,000+ feet! It was the fuselage that couldn't handle the heat from the airspeed, not the engines holding it back! I listened to one story from pilot Brian Shule (sp?) who had to outrun a SAM shot at him (Process that for a second. LOL ) and throttled up, limits be damned...he said he tried to touch the canopy afterwards and couldn't because it was too hot...with gloves on!!
The Clerget 9B was a bit of a shock. So much spinning mass. No wonder those particular planes had so much precession. Just getting it to run without shaking to bits is a triumph. Hats off.
My soul has been shaken. The early radials are so insane...think of them as the "out of the box" ultimate engineering design. I mean who who thought to do this? And it was like early 1900s.... I wonder if there's any brains out there today that could come up with such a radical application of power? Thanks for such a great collection of examples. Oh my that Wasp was beyond insane...look at it....look at the plumbing. Even the Soviet pieces are a work of art. And to think kids worked on these during WW2. I fear "some" kids today couldn't load a mechanical pencil.
@@stirlingschmidt6325 You got that buddy. I talk about slide rules, vernier calipers and architect triangles and kids look at me like I'm from another world...and I am
Kids these days, eh? Quit your bullshit. As a "kid" that is quite mechanically and a bit electronically inclined I find your mindset quite rude. Kids that know about mechanical stuff haven't gone anywhere, you just have to get out of the social media bubble that is mostly populated by mechanically illiterate people. Besides, being mechanically illiterate is not a bad thing, everyone has their own hobbies and likes, and without all kinds of expertise the world wouldn't work.
@@itsnetts Well there Mr. Netts, the only thing I said wrong was that it should have been stated "some kids" (I just edited it) . I know a good amount of kids, like you, who are mechanically inclined and technically/electronically astute. Your comment about the "social media bubble ...populated by mechanically illiterate people" is spot on. I do watch a number of gifted kids working on complex stuff. Admittedly, I can do a very limited amount the higher tech cross-over of mechanical and computerized engineering. I had to learn computer mech/tech when I was in my mid-50s and am amazed how much I've learned to appreciate it over the last 20 years. Hopefully, "as a kid", you'll enjoy learning old and new things when you're in your 70s. Respectfully, Theo.
If you listen - these engines don't like to idle. They lope in idle and run smoothly with throttle on. It's because their cam profile is that of a street rod / drag car. These engines are made to cruise continuously at 75%.
They're made to cruise at a steady 2500rpms or so. They change the pitch of the prop to keep the engine at a steady RPM while applying more power if they need to.
Many years ago in Sydney,Aust I took my 8 & 6yr old daughters to an airshow at Bankstown airport specifically to hear a Spitfire flypast.They're in their 40s' now but still remember it. My duty as a father was done that day !
Some years ago, I was working in my garden here in England on a quiet weekend summer day. Then I heard a propeller driven plane in the sky and I just 'knew' it was a Spitfire from the sound of the engine. Flying alone either to or from an airshow. I had never heard one in real life before, but the sound was magical. It sent a shiver down my spine. It made me spin round and stand open mouthed looking up. I am not prone to hyperbole or a lot of emotion but I will never forget that sound.
I still can’t believe radials came AFTER rotary engines..at least insofar as widespread usage. The 985 to me is the Chevy 350 of radials, and prolly my favorite, even after working on larger ones. It was the first I maintained, on a Beech 18. Perfect engine on a perfect plane. Oh wow, the 4360 sounded silky smooth and quiet at the first view from the front. I’ve a better appreciation for the 680 now than when I did when I worked on one, as I didn’t particularly care for the Stinson it was bolted on to. Geez, the Griffon sounds like silk. The Merlin was great, but I always thought it sounded like a zipper. The Griffon is, wow, amazing. The 1710 is a favorite. Such an underrated, under developed American masterpiece. If only the USAAC wouldn’t have told Allison not to bother developing superchargers.
These engines are pure art , The result of collaboration between designers , engineers and exceptional tradesmen. And deep pockets for the fuel bill ⛽️ 💰 💰
Nice, music for engine lovers like me, particulary radial engines, for as a drummer I hear interesting rithmes when they are starting up cold. Extremely inspiring. And thanks also for including the ssme rs 25 test in this collection, it has some unimaginable parameters in its design.
The RR Griffon is a different engine to the Merlin which powered most Spitfires. The Griffon didn’t go into the Spitfire till about the Mk 24 which was nearly a different plane to the Spitfire. Also the US had trouble building aero engines big enough to be useful early on which is why the Merlin built under licence to RR was put into the Mustang. That is what made the Mustang the power house it turned out to be.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The first production Griffon powered Spitfire was the Mk XII. Quickly followed by the Mk XIV. No Sea Fury had counter rotating propellers.. There were Spitfires with counter rotating props, The Seafire Mk 47 is one for example. Typical internet experts, clueless..
I always thought and saw old ads in magazines that the P-51 had Allison engines in them. They are a similar design to the RR, were they licensed to build them under the Allison name or what was the deal?
As someone that was done quite a bit of work on P&W 1830's, it saddens me to see the air-cooled radials ran without some method of cooling them, as is the case with that R-3350 pulling power. Those back cylinders get hot very quickly without proper airflow. They won't last very long like that, and it's a shame to see them deliberately abused. If you can afford to own one of these expensive jewels, please take care of it!
@@LJ-gn2un what sort of cooling would one use? I mean it has a cut down prop that seems to be moving alot of air by itself. What other ways can you cool an air cooled radial on the ground?
My Uncle had a WWI trainer bi-plane. It had a huge Roll-Royce 12 cylinder radial engine on it. It was a monster. Had plenty of power to go up and have a shit load of fun in something that alone is a scary thought. I mean stick and pedal controls. The seats were nothing more than a couple pieces of play wood. The back seat can control the plane but also had what was called a "monkey strap attached to it. That was in case you fell out you pull yourself back in.
Best sounds I ever experienced - #1 At the end of runway with a B-29 taking off. #2 Riding in Ford Tri-Motor #3 Going skydiving so I could get a ride in a Dehavilland Beaver
Love these huge engines, but by far the best part was a guy spraying a fuel fire with a crappy garden hose. Who has one of these engines and can't afford a CO2 fire extinguisher?
The Le Clerget is not a rotary-radial - it is a ROTARY full stop. The cylinders rotate around a fixed crankshaft. A radial has fixed cylinders and a rotating crankshaft. Ex-pilot here so I hope I know what I'n talking about - I've flown aircraft with radials and aircraft with liquid-cooled inlines but never a rotary.
How do you fuel a rotary engine that's revolving at the same speed as the propeller?, and how do the valves/rockers work with the added effect of inertia and centrifugal force? It's amazing they could do this over 100 years ago.
I can't get over the Clerget 9B, with the cylinder bank rotating around the crankshaft. Fascinating, and kind of weird, also, whether practical, or not. I read they had some tough takeoff problems, etc. because of the extreme gyroscopic effects of all that rotating mass.
Rotating the cylinders helped to cool them when they were on the ground hence they were able to get some good power from it without the engine overheating. Manufacturing air cooled cylinders with effective and efficient cooling fins was still quite a challenge at this time, a side effect as you say was the gyro effect on take off and in turns when flying. The other side efdect was that they were 2 strokes that used castor oil for lubrication, after flying a couple of hours ingesting those fumes you were cleaned in your bowels when you landed!
Funny to note that most of the opposed horizontal engines are basically stationary power plants - they don't need a ton of RPM and neither do props. The "round motors" were the best sounding of the bunch, with the V-12s very close behind :)
Es ist faszinierend, daß es so viele Faszinierte gibt, die es faszinierend finden, Maschinen zu starten, die nichts weiter machen, als sich zu drehen und manchmal in Flammen aufgehen, während sie sich drehen. Faszinierender ist beinahe, daß es Faszinierte gibt, die sich etwa eine halbe Stunde lang ein Video ansehen, in dem Faszinierte die Dinge zum Drehen bringen. Faszinierend, in der Tat. It's fascinating that there are so many fascinated people who find it fascinating to start machines that do nothing but spin and sometimes burst into flames as they spin. What's almost more fascinating is that there are fascinated people who will watch a video for half an hour or so of fascinated people making things spin. Fascinating, indeed.
I worked on RC121Ds in the USAF in 1963&1964. AKA Super Constellations in the airline world. It was awesome and a little scary to sit in the co-pilots seat during run ups of a test run. The flame shooting out of the PRTs was like the afterburner on a jet !!
@@jayjones6904 Yes "Connie" was a female name that applied when we enjoyed the very curvaceous, sexy profile of her slender "fuselage", those long lifting airfoils of her "wings" and wow did she have big "engines"
Zero idea what ya do with these beautiful engines after ya start'em, watch and listen to them? I guess I'd just LOVE SITTIN THERE WITH THE THING 😊 and of course share it with ppl
None of these can beat the sound of a Merlin in full song! By the way, many WW1 pilots got sick flying behind those Le Clergets and other early engines. The were lubricated with Castor oil!! 😱
The greatest sound in aviation (airplane music if you will), are the compound radials on the DC6&7, and the Lockheed Connie series aircraft. Jets can't hold a candle to the beautiful sound of those great airliners of the past.
The Clerget 9B rotating rotary engine in the Sopwith Camel generated so much gyroscopic force, left turns were slow and right turns were dangerously fast for inexperienced pilots, sometimes leading into an uncontrollable spin. But for an experienced pilot they were incredibly manoeuvrable, with pilots often choosing a 270 degree right turn in favour of a slower 90 degree left turn. The Royal Flying Corp said flying one would get you a cross, either a wooden cross, a red cross, or a Victoria cross!
I love most engines, respect them, props- kind of scare me, but the power! Electric motors are great as well and the Diesel-electric, etc., it's amazing what we can do when we put our heads to use for something good! Classic Cars and Boat Engines get that, the power to move bug ships OMG! It's all just amazing to me.
I LOVE FAST N POWERFUL EVERYTHING so whilst scrolling I saw this and had to stop and take a watch. I'm a WWII buff so this is wonderful even though I don't know anything about aircraft engines I'm still e joking this very much. I REALLY LIKE THE MERLIN! I THINK ABOUT EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF THAT ENGINE 😅 A D ITS A GOODOOKIN ENGINE AT THAT. THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
Correct. R2800-79 or -81. One had Bendix mags and the other GE magnetos. I flew the A26 for years fighting fire with both dash numbers. A great engine. But it will quit cold if it doesn't have air, fuel or the master rod breaks. I had all three happen. Radials can let you down. The only people say a radial will never let you down never put enough hours in behind them.
You can't do justice to the sound of these machines in a recording, but it's a good attempt - or it may just be down to my headphones. Anyway, my father, grandfather and uncle used to fly and restore aircraft, and we went to a lot of aircraft gatherings - including the world's largest in Oshkosh, Wisconsin - so I've been up close with several of these engines. The sound of a big old radial engine will just shake your soul. My favorite plane to listen to has to be the Boeing B17 bomber; when all four engines are properly tuned, they really make beautiful music.
Das hier, bei 15:14, ist der einzige Motor der am besten läuft. Ohne Nebengeräusche ausfallender Zündungen. Dieser Motor hat einen ruhigen satten gleichmäßigen Klang, siehe 15:23 Im Vergleich, wenn man das Laufgeräusch hier beim nächsten Motor hört, siehe 15:50 dann sagt man sich: "an dem Motor stimmt was nicht mit der Zündung" 15:50 Hier nochmal zum Vergleich zum perfekten Motor: 15:23
These old ingines remembers me about the the movie " THE FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX " with James GARNER , Ernest BORGNINE , Hardy KRÜGER and many other. I love this movie.WILL THE INGINE START , OR NOT ? !
That's why the tips of the blades are painted yellow or have white stripes or spirals on the central spinner. Hence the phrase "clear prop" before starting. 😂
@@josephinebennington7247 open propellers have been used on aircraft for as long as they've been around , I think the consequences of walking into a spinning prop are pretty obvious. These public displays are usually cordoned off to a safe distance. Aircraft engineers have to use "common sense" when working on a running engine. It used to be a "thing" once apon a time. 😉
@@Stevie-P123 Murphy’s law is the obvious response. These are display mounts where non-engineers with no common sense can be found. I’m an amateur engineer with plenty of common sense and I wouldn’t fail to demarcate where things get dangerous for the sake of my own head. I’ll stay this side of my screen.
@@josephinebennington7247 arr a fellow engineer , I've been building proped aircraft engines for the best part of 30 years and standing next to these things when they're running is enough to put the fear of God into you , and I'm not even religious. 😆 All the best to you Josephine. 👍
There is no such thing as a rotary-radial engine. There are rotary engines that look like radials but the entire engine spins around the fixed crankshaft. Then there are radial engines where the crankshaft spins inside of the fixed engine.
I agree. I'm a engineer and auto mechanic amongst other things, and the engines here are radial, not rotary. Rotary engines are like Mazda rx-7 wankel engines, and are completely different than radial engines. Get your terminology correct. If you are unsure 🤔, just ask an engineer 🤗. Jason Wampler
Did I see the cylider heads move independently of the block. It seemed to move counterclockwise from the propeller and the radial heads move. I thought they were stationary.
I can't see how lubrication would ever work. Sure, the pistons are stationary, but how do you keep all the oil from eventually ending up in the valve covers?
Oil is in the fuel and enters the crankcase first , bit like a simple two-stroke , it travels through a port valve in the piston itself and is eventually spat out the exhaust valve at the top of the cylinder. They are still a four-stroke but the mixture in the crankcase is excessively rich so additional air is actually drawn back in through the exhaust valve before the compression stroke.
Hearing the engines firing up and running was always the best part of the airshows I used to go to.
I worked on the R1300, R-200 and the R-4360 when I was in the Air Force back in '62-'66.
LOVED MY JOB!!
The R1300 never sounds "Right" to me, I remember hearing them in T28's at air shows....I am always thinking....Dead Mag? - LOL!
@@misters2837 I've got about 1200 hours in the T-28B and C as a test and cross country flight mech/E2P in VT-2, VT-6 and NARF Pensacola for 3 years in the late 60s. After volunteering with a group that rebuilt an 1820-86A for a resurrected B back in 2014, I got a ride in the finished bird with a retired navy pilot who had been an instructor at Whiting Field when I was there. I noticed a big difference in exhaust sound from what I remembered from the 60s - that smooth, almost deafening note at 52inHg was missing - still had good power though. I assume it came from the differences in new and old fuels - green 100/130 alkylate vs the original 1940s era leaded 115/140 purple that went away about 30 years ago and has only recently made a comeback. When supercharger HIGH was selected at 15,000 feet while climbing at a pretty good rate, it didn't give the same kick in the pants that I remembered, either. The old bird (whose every switch, lever, and gauge I can still visualize in total darkness) remains an impressive machine and needs no excuses in the presence of it's elder warbird brothers....
@@misters2837 Yes, the 9 cylinder radial engines with their 5/4 exhaust always sounded like they were missing on a cylinder. Only the high power runup rpm test knows for sure! But, the T-28Bs and T-28Cs that I flew in 1971 in VT-6 were equipped with the R-1820. The S-2C, C-1A, and Hu-16D were also equipped with the R-1820. Never heard of a R-1300. That must be the 7 cylinder engine in the T-28A that the Air Force flew.
@DavidParker-cf2km That Makes Sense NONE of them sound "RIGHT" the 5/4 9cyl B/C or the 7cyl A-Model! - They wanted you to always think there was something wrong with it! - They Sound like a V8 missing on 2 cylinders about 1 cylinder apart....so like Bang Bang Miss Bang Miss Bang Bang Bang.....I know, cuz I had a car that ran like that when I bought it! (Needed Tune Up!)
@donallen, thank you for your service during the not so cold Cold War. We were at or near SAC bases which had the B-36, C-124, KC-97 and KB-50. I remember that sound at takeoff, the drone when they flew high above us and the dishes rattling in the cabinets.
I love the guy running the engine in his front yard. I bet his neighbors love him too. I love air cooled engines no matter what they are in. The Rolls Royce Merlin and the Allison V12s are pretty bad ass too. That Curtis Wright R-1300 sounded like a galloping horse when it first fired off.
The P&W Wasp 18 cylinder engines were the marvel of design and engineering, and have such a great sound.
They were built about 5 miles from me in the East Hartford, CT "Headquarters" plant. What a campus they have/had over there. 600 acres I think, with their own airfield and buildings that go on and on. At the peak in the 80's that plant alone employed 60,000 people! (And they had several plants around the state!) Now, it's a sorry shadow of itself. Maybe 3500 people there, and only one other plant still going with a skeleton crew. Don't forget the SR71 Blackbird would not be what it was/is without Pratt solving the problem and coming up with a turbo/ram jet hybrid engine! Pure genius!
Official speed of Mach 3.2 but reports from pilots getting close to 4 with plenty of throttle left, at 80,000+ feet! It was the fuselage that couldn't handle the heat from the airspeed, not the engines holding it back! I listened to one story from pilot Brian Shule (sp?) who had to outrun a SAM shot at him (Process that for a second. LOL ) and throttled up, limits be damned...he said he tried to touch the canopy afterwards and couldn't because it was too hot...with gloves on!!
The 28 cylinder R-4360's sounded even better.... 👍
@@JVielloYes, the Blackbird COULD outrun missiles..
Kudos!!! to the people who restore, maintain and exhibit these fine engines for viewers to enjoy🎉❤
Yes indeed!
The Clerget 9B was a bit of a shock. So much spinning mass. No wonder those particular planes had so much precession.
Just getting it to run without shaking to bits is a triumph.
Hats off.
My dad had an aircraft parts business, I grew up around the Pratt Whitney engines, tore down lots of them while I was in high school!
The Curtis Wright R3350 with the blower sounds truly badass!
My soul has been shaken. The early radials are so insane...think of them as the "out of the box" ultimate engineering design. I mean who who thought to do this? And it was like early 1900s.... I wonder if there's any brains out there today that could come up with such a radical application of power? Thanks for such a great collection of examples. Oh my that Wasp was beyond insane...look at it....look at the plumbing. Even the Soviet pieces are a work of art. And to think kids worked on these during WW2. I fear "some" kids today couldn't load a mechanical pencil.
Facts as stated above! (Love the Mechanical Pencil...)
Not only that, but they were designed without the help of any computer.
@@stirlingschmidt6325 You got that buddy. I talk about slide rules, vernier calipers and architect triangles and kids look at me like I'm from another world...and I am
Kids these days, eh? Quit your bullshit. As a "kid" that is quite mechanically and a bit electronically inclined I find your mindset quite rude. Kids that know about mechanical stuff haven't gone anywhere, you just have to get out of the social media bubble that is mostly populated by mechanically illiterate people. Besides, being mechanically illiterate is not a bad thing, everyone has their own hobbies and likes, and without all kinds of expertise the world wouldn't work.
@@itsnetts Well there Mr. Netts, the only thing I said wrong was that it should have been stated "some kids" (I just edited it) . I know a good amount of kids, like you, who are mechanically inclined and technically/electronically astute. Your comment about the "social media bubble ...populated by mechanically illiterate people" is spot on. I do watch a number of gifted kids working on complex stuff. Admittedly, I can do a very limited amount the higher tech cross-over of mechanical and computerized engineering. I had to learn computer mech/tech when I was in my mid-50s and am amazed how much I've learned to appreciate it over the last 20 years. Hopefully, "as a kid", you'll enjoy learning old and new things when you're in your 70s. Respectfully, Theo.
If you listen - these engines don't like to idle. They lope in idle and run smoothly with throttle on.
It's because their cam profile is that of a street rod / drag car. These engines are made to cruise continuously at 75%.
They're made to cruise at a steady 2500rpms or so. They change the pitch of the prop to keep the engine at a steady RPM while applying more power if they need to.
if you have ever heard a spitfire or a mustang flying past live, then you know what the best ever sounding engines are, they are incredible.
There good. But in my opinion nothing beats the sound of the B25's. Those R-2600's are a deafening symphony!
It’s even better from the back seat of a P-51 Mustang, I used to maintain one, test flights were the best!
@@marcwesley8513 you lucky bugger, i would love to experience a flight in one.
@@marcwesley8513 This I can agree with. We keep one in working order at the local airfield here.
Many years ago in Sydney,Aust I took my 8 & 6yr old daughters to an airshow at Bankstown airport specifically to hear a Spitfire flypast.They're in their 40s' now but still remember it. My duty as a father was done that day !
Some years ago, I was working in my garden here in England on a quiet weekend summer day. Then I heard a propeller driven plane in the sky and I just 'knew' it was a Spitfire from the sound of the engine. Flying alone either to or from an airshow. I had never heard one in real life before, but the sound was magical. It sent a shiver down my spine. It made me spin round and stand open mouthed looking up. I am not prone to hyperbole or a lot of emotion but I will never forget that sound.
Some fine pieces of engineering, for sure ! Love that sound of raw power.
That RR Griffon sure is a beauty...
Amazing engineering that went into these engines of the day.
I still can’t believe radials came AFTER rotary engines..at least insofar as widespread usage.
The 985 to me is the Chevy 350 of radials, and prolly my favorite, even after working on larger ones. It was the first I maintained, on a Beech 18. Perfect engine on a perfect plane.
Oh wow, the 4360 sounded silky smooth and quiet at the first view from the front.
I’ve a better appreciation for the 680 now than when I did when I worked on one, as I didn’t particularly care for the Stinson it was bolted on to.
Geez, the Griffon sounds like silk. The Merlin was great, but I always thought it sounded like a zipper. The Griffon is, wow, amazing.
The 1710 is a favorite. Such an underrated, under developed American masterpiece. If only the USAAC wouldn’t have told Allison not to bother developing superchargers.
These engines are pure art , The result of collaboration between designers , engineers and exceptional tradesmen.
And deep pockets for the fuel bill ⛽️ 💰 💰
Bet the neighbors love having this guy run up aircraft engines in a residential area
My neighbors' kids make more noise than this.
I'd be mad if he didn't let me know when he was going to run it, so I could watch.
Reply: Its sound of the Freedom!
@@juhajuntunen2557 Nah... It's the sound of slavery to anyone actually paying attention.
I'd run right over there and....ask if he needs any help. LOL
Nice, music for engine lovers like me, particulary radial engines, for as a drummer I hear interesting rithmes when they are starting up cold.
Extremely inspiring. And thanks also for including the ssme rs 25 test in this collection, it has some unimaginable parameters in its design.
Значит мне не одному это казалось
This video is awesome! These sounds will definitely shake the soul of anyone who loves airplanes. Highly recommend it to those who haven’t seen it
Thanks for sharing!
@@technofusionhd yes ser
The RR Griffon is a different engine to the Merlin which powered most Spitfires. The Griffon didn’t go into the Spitfire till about the Mk 24 which was nearly a different plane to the Spitfire. Also the US had trouble building aero engines big enough to be useful early on which is why the Merlin built under licence to RR was put into the Mustang. That is what made the Mustang the power house it turned out to be.
No counterrunning propellers on spitfires
@@andrslnks4804 No. I think the Sea Fury had contra rotating props, the Griffon in the model Mk 24 Spitfire I have built did not.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
The first production Griffon powered Spitfire was the Mk XII. Quickly followed by the Mk XIV. No Sea Fury had counter rotating propellers..
There were Spitfires with counter rotating props, The Seafire Mk 47 is one for example.
Typical internet experts, clueless..
@@zero1zero184 Go for it mate.
I always thought and saw old ads in magazines that the P-51 had Allison engines in them. They are a similar design to the RR, were they licensed to build them under the Allison name or what was the deal?
These boys and their motor stands would make great neighbors
I'll bet the Clerget 9Bs neighbours just love it.
Imagine your house being downwind of that cloud of oil vapor coming the exhaust!
Best leaf blower in the street 😂
I wish the people operating the cameras wouldn't stand in line with the props -- even if the chances of a mishap are low.
As someone that was done quite a bit of work on P&W 1830's, it saddens me to see the air-cooled radials ran without some method of cooling them, as is the case with that R-3350 pulling power. Those back cylinders get hot very quickly without proper airflow. They won't last very long like that, and it's a shame to see them deliberately abused. If you can afford to own one of these expensive jewels, please take care of it!
@@LJ-gn2un what sort of cooling would one use? I mean it has a cut down prop that seems to be moving alot of air by itself. What other ways can you cool an air cooled radial on the ground?
Nevermind my dumbass is looking at wright r2600. My bad, lol.
My Uncle had a WWI trainer bi-plane. It had a huge Roll-Royce 12 cylinder radial engine on it. It was a monster. Had plenty of power to go up and have a shit load of fun in something that alone is a scary thought. I mean stick and pedal controls. The seats were nothing more than a couple pieces of play wood. The back seat can control the plane but also had what was called a "monkey strap attached to it. That was in case you fell out you pull yourself back in.
Only the best in safety equipment 👍😎✊
@@steven.h0629 😆😆😆. Safety 3rd. 🤪
"Roll-Royce 12 cylinder radial engine on it" No such animal.
@@wagonmaster1974 he was being sarcastic. 😀
RR never built a radial engine.
No such thing as an even cyl radial engine. 🤪
Best sounds I ever experienced -
#1 At the end of runway with a B-29 taking off.
#2 Riding in Ford Tri-Motor
#3 Going skydiving so I could get a ride in a Dehavilland Beaver
My father worked at the Curtiss Wright plant in New Jersey after WWll.
gotta love those Giffon sounds, raw
Griffons
Thanks for putting a couple of turboprops in there. 👍
Love these huge engines, but by far the best part was a guy spraying a fuel fire with a crappy garden hose. Who has one of these engines and can't afford a CO2 fire extinguisher?
its hard to see some of these aircooled engines runn att full speed without propellers that give cooling, eaven if its just a short time its painfull.
The TPE331-10 at 14:00 sounds like an angry demon trying to escape when it reaches full speed
The Le Clerget is not a rotary-radial - it is a ROTARY full stop. The cylinders rotate around a fixed crankshaft. A radial has fixed cylinders and a rotating crankshaft. Ex-pilot here so I hope I know what I'n talking about - I've flown aircraft with radials and aircraft with liquid-cooled inlines but never a rotary.
It's mind boggling the engineering in this style of engine... how to feed fuel when it is spinning has me puzzled.
@@dennissorensen9320 There's a good explanation on Wikipedia.
Imagine putting your life in the hands of one of these engines … is at a whole other level.
That first guy's neighbors must absolutely love him
It was the sound of those radials that made me become an aircraft mechanic. Music to my ears ( Up close I always wore ear protection )
How do you fuel a rotary engine that's revolving at the same speed as the propeller?, and how do the valves/rockers work with the added effect of inertia and centrifugal force? It's amazing they could do this over 100 years ago.
Nothing like a multi bank radial under stress ❤
Those are works of art. And think of the tech they were using to make them.
Amazing engine’s! The lefty’s would stroke out seeing this. I love it!
I am a far left wing guy, and I love this too, without a hint of shame.
Me too😎
Maybe because they all rotate counterclockwise, so a "stroke out" of joy?
@@asmundukkelberg8741 you know they were burning fossil fuels right?
@@asmundukkelberg8741maybe the designers of these engines were racisss too 😮
Would loved to have seen a Napier Sabre
Best engines piston or jet ever even today Rolls-Royce !
Best Aircraft Engines even today piston or Jet Rolls-Royce !
@@charlesimwold1429Nah, I'll take a G.E. turbine anyday...
Packard produced the best Merlin engines, far better manufacturing than the Brits.
Looks like the Allison 1710 was the smoothest running engine there out of all these engines.
I love it when someone uses water on a type B (Bravo) fuel fire instead of CO2.
I can't get over the Clerget 9B, with the cylinder bank rotating around the crankshaft. Fascinating, and kind of weird, also, whether practical, or not. I read they had some tough takeoff problems, etc. because of the extreme gyroscopic effects of all that rotating mass.
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Rotating the cylinders helped to cool them when they were on the ground hence they were able to get some good power from it without the engine overheating. Manufacturing air cooled cylinders with effective and efficient cooling fins was still quite a challenge at this time, a side effect as you say was the gyro effect on take off and in turns when flying. The other side efdect was that they were 2 strokes that used castor oil for lubrication, after flying a couple of hours ingesting those fumes you were cleaned in your bowels when you landed!
It's a shame that all of these are on trailers, not in aircraft.
シリンダーが回るタイプの星形ロータリーエンジン初めて見た、落ち着いて考えると吸気排気のセクションをシリンダで共有出来るからシンプルでいいかもしれない。
OUTSTANDING!!!! Love it!!! Thank you for posting this video!
The OX-5- "Aw, just put a propeller on it. Itt'L work!" Dad- "Hey, where's the motor to my 'Vette?"😁
Funny to note that most of the opposed horizontal engines are basically stationary power plants - they don't need a ton of RPM and neither do props.
The "round motors" were the best sounding of the bunch, with the V-12s very close behind :)
Exactly what I need in my back yard for my neighbor😜
soul is indeed stable and never shook
Es ist faszinierend, daß es so viele Faszinierte gibt, die es faszinierend finden, Maschinen zu starten, die nichts weiter machen, als sich zu drehen und manchmal in Flammen aufgehen, während sie sich drehen.
Faszinierender ist beinahe, daß es Faszinierte gibt, die sich etwa eine halbe Stunde lang ein Video ansehen, in dem Faszinierte die Dinge zum Drehen bringen.
Faszinierend, in der Tat.
It's fascinating that there are so many fascinated people who find it fascinating to start machines that do nothing but spin and sometimes burst into flames as they spin.
What's almost more fascinating is that there are fascinated people who will watch a video for half an hour or so of fascinated people making things spin.
Fascinating, indeed.
Yep - I watched it from start to finish
Fascinating !
I concur with your sentiments gentlemen
That turbocharged curtiss wright 3350 sounds evil.
Ahhhh .... music to my ears. Thx. TF
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪,, thanks for a very enjoyable and interesting video, well done, my ears 👂 are ringing 😀
Glad you enjoyed it
Best aircraft engine video EVER.
I worked on RC121Ds in the USAF in 1963&1964. AKA Super Constellations in the airline world. It was awesome and a little scary to sit in the co-pilots seat during run ups of a test run. The flame shooting out of the PRTs was like the afterburner on a jet !!
Connie's to me were one sexy airplane
@@jayjones6904 Yes "Connie" was a female name that applied when we enjoyed the very curvaceous, sexy profile of her slender "fuselage", those long lifting airfoils of her "wings" and wow did she have big "engines"
The R3350 also powered my favorite war bird...the A1 Skyraider.
Radials sure do burn a lot of oil
Absolutely nothing like the sound of a round motor.
all those people ready to get hammered
Gotta love a radial at cruising speed
Loved your production, so well presented and ESPECIALLY well supported by intelligent, clear and properly phrased subtitles.
Nice work, some cool engines. 👍👍
Zero idea what ya do with these beautiful engines after ya start'em, watch and listen to them? I guess I'd just LOVE SITTIN THERE WITH THE THING 😊 and of course share it with ppl
I love this show!!! Keep on showing these engines and what they sound like!
WOOOW MAN !!
JUST 2 MINUTES LATER WHEN THE EXPLOSION OCCURRED , I JUMPED OF RIGHT 😂😂😂
ENGINEERING MARVELS .
👍👍👍
2:55. Love that enclosure using a truck bed cap. Great idea.
Glad you like it!
None of these can beat the sound of a Merlin in full song!
By the way, many WW1 pilots got sick flying behind those Le Clergets and other early engines. The were lubricated with Castor oil!! 😱
The greatest sound in aviation (airplane music if you will), are the compound radials on the DC6&7, and the Lockheed Connie series aircraft. Jets can't hold a candle to the beautiful sound of those great airliners of the past.
The lack of vibration from these motors is astounding.
The Clerget 9B rotating rotary engine in the Sopwith Camel generated so much gyroscopic force, left turns were slow and right turns were dangerously fast for inexperienced pilots, sometimes leading into an uncontrollable spin. But for an experienced pilot they were incredibly manoeuvrable, with pilots often choosing a 270 degree right turn in favour of a slower 90 degree left turn. The Royal Flying Corp said flying one would get you a cross, either a wooden cross, a red cross, or a Victoria cross!
0:29 Looks like it WAS a nice, quiet neighborhood. 🙂
Love those rotary radials
*Everyone’s Gangsta Till Avro-Vulcan Peaks Over The Horizon 💀*
I love most engines, respect them, props- kind of scare me, but the power! Electric motors are great as well and the Diesel-electric, etc., it's amazing what we can do when we put our heads to use for something good! Classic Cars and Boat Engines get that, the power to move bug ships OMG! It's all just amazing to me.
Great hobby love to rebuild one in my back ysrd!!😊
my neighbors would hate me if did this in the front yard lol
Very good 👍👍👍👍👍
The Shvetsov ASh-62- "I'll take 2 please! To Go!"
My neighbors would love me to get one!
I LOVE FAST N POWERFUL EVERYTHING so whilst scrolling I saw this and had to stop and take a watch. I'm a WWII buff so this is wonderful even though I don't know anything about aircraft engines I'm still e joking this very much. I REALLY LIKE THE MERLIN! I THINK ABOUT EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF THAT ENGINE 😅 A D ITS A GOODOOKIN ENGINE AT THAT. THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
Well, 30 minutes and no german engine. Well done sir
A quick observation - you credit the R2600 to being used in the Douglas A26. In fact, the A26 used the P&W R2800.
Correct. R2800-79 or -81. One had Bendix mags and the other GE magnetos. I flew the A26 for years fighting fire with both dash numbers. A great engine. But it will quit cold if it doesn't have air, fuel or the master rod breaks. I had all three happen. Radials can let you down. The only people say a radial will never let you down never put enough hours in behind them.
You can't do justice to the sound of these machines in a recording, but it's a good attempt - or it may just be down to my headphones. Anyway, my father, grandfather and uncle used to fly and restore aircraft, and we went to a lot of aircraft gatherings - including the world's largest in Oshkosh, Wisconsin - so I've been up close with several of these engines. The sound of a big old radial engine will just shake your soul. My favorite plane to listen to has to be the Boeing B17 bomber; when all four engines are properly tuned, they really make beautiful music.
Das hier, bei 15:14, ist der einzige Motor der am besten läuft. Ohne Nebengeräusche ausfallender Zündungen. Dieser Motor hat einen ruhigen satten gleichmäßigen Klang, siehe 15:23
Im Vergleich, wenn man das Laufgeräusch hier beim nächsten Motor hört, siehe 15:50 dann sagt man sich: "an dem Motor stimmt was nicht mit der Zündung" 15:50 Hier nochmal zum Vergleich zum perfekten Motor: 15:23
Bless the aviators!!!
That was awesome. Thanks!
These old ingines remembers me about the the movie " THE FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX " with James GARNER , Ernest BORGNINE , Hardy KRÜGER and many other. I love this movie.WILL THE INGINE START , OR NOT ? !
Great movie
Thanks!
Your Welcome! 🤗
I find it scary just watching the unguarded propellors whirling invisibly. Surprising that this is permitted.
That's why the tips of the blades are painted yellow or have white stripes or spirals on the central spinner. Hence the phrase "clear prop" before starting. 😂
@@Stevie-P123 Can’t say I’m impressed by that minimal measure. A demarcated “do not enter” zone would be my chosen action.
@@josephinebennington7247 open propellers have been used on aircraft for as long as they've been around , I think the consequences of walking into a spinning prop are pretty obvious. These public displays are usually cordoned off to a safe distance. Aircraft engineers have to use "common sense" when working on a running engine. It used to be a "thing" once apon a time. 😉
@@Stevie-P123 Murphy’s law is the obvious response. These are display mounts where non-engineers with no common sense can be found. I’m an amateur engineer with plenty of common sense and I wouldn’t fail to demarcate where things get dangerous for the sake of my own head. I’ll stay this side of my screen.
@@josephinebennington7247 arr a fellow engineer , I've been building proped aircraft engines for the best part of 30 years and standing next to these things when they're running is enough to put the fear of God into you , and I'm not even religious. 😆 All the best to you Josephine. 👍
glad you didnt gum it up with music like some dorks do. GREAT SOUND!
There is no such thing as a rotary-radial engine. There are rotary engines that look like radials but the entire engine spins around the fixed crankshaft. Then there are radial engines where the crankshaft spins inside of the fixed engine.
Everything is correct but the rotary engine to my understanding came first so there are radial engines that look like Rotary's . Not being pedantic
Seems to be clarifying against a wankel rotary. Both referred to as "rotary engines"
I agree. I'm a engineer and auto mechanic amongst other things, and the engines here are radial, not rotary.
Rotary engines are like Mazda rx-7 wankel engines, and are completely different than radial engines.
Get your terminology correct. If you are unsure 🤔, just ask an engineer 🤗.
Jason Wampler
Den einen Motor aus dem 1. Weltkrieg nennt man Umlaufmotor, der Rest Sternmotor
I never knew that the whole engine spun like that. That’s wild. How does it stay oiled?
Did I see the cylider heads move independently of the block. It seemed to move counterclockwise from the propeller and the radial heads move. I thought they were stationary.
Love to see a Bristol Centaurus. If you are going to play turboprops put the first decent one in, the RR Dart.
great video it will soon take off
Fire up a radial engine in front of your house ? You can be my neighbor ! That’s gotta be a interesting oil system w/the cylinders rotating
I can't see how lubrication would ever work. Sure, the pistons are stationary, but how do you keep all the oil from eventually ending up in the valve covers?
Oil is in the fuel and enters the crankcase first , bit like a simple two-stroke , it travels through a port valve in the piston itself and is eventually spat out the exhaust valve at the top of the cylinder. They are still a four-stroke but the mixture in the crankcase is excessively rich so additional air is actually drawn back in through the exhaust valve before the compression stroke.
They used castor oil (ricinus) and fuel mixture for lubricant
@@glbor yea and in some cases it give the pilots the squits. 😏
@@glbor well, it worked great in model engines.
To me, this looks like a LOT of moving parts that could fail lol.
At 22:10 you mention that the R-2600 was installed in the Douglas A-26 I believe that the A-26 had P&W R-2800s
I believe the Douglas A-20 Havoc had the R-2600s