Lance "Un" Rivera on Rumor that Biggie Had a $62M Contract Before He Got Killed (Part 24)
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In this clip, Vlad started off asking Lance “Un” Rivera about former Bad Boy bodyguard Gene Deal saying that Biggie was about to leave the label after he saw a $62 million contract in Biggie’s luggage. Lance said that at the time, Biggie had proven himself so much that all of the opportunities were open. He then added that Biggie was battling himself on the charts as both a solo artist and with Junior M.A.F.I.A., which led to Un calling Biggie a “great A&R.”
I love how you ask him a direct question then interrupt him before he answers with your own answer and then he doesnt answer the question lmao
He clarified his line of questioning so that it wouldn’t be interpreted as him insinuating things
@vinnydeville4675 but he did insinuate and he still didn't confirm and answer the question.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 facts only.
@@teluvisionhd he tried to clarify, he tried lol
@@vinnydeville4675 lmao he tried
To put it in perspective Biggie was on his 2nd album and he already had the mind of a bussiness person I honestly believe he would have been richer then Puff and Jay Z had he lived the way he was talking about ownership and expanding on different ventures showed he wasnt dumb also he had the talent, image and all around he was simply unique
Shouldn’t been talkin bout it n just did it. That’s what got him killed !
@@Mike-tp5zw He was 24.. That's young AF... probably didn't think his man would take him out.
Biggie had clothing line Brooklyn Mint, jigga stole his idea 😏
@Mike I think people like to hear and say this to themselves, but there's context. Puff was young and motivated, but he had been around the music businesses as much as he could try to do.
Big didn't think he could've gotten that far. People carve paths based on what's in front of them. Nas is an entrepreneur now. Dre makes more outside of music. Jay started to venture out of music heading into his 40s. Back then, artist also didn't have the knowledge they do now.
Big at 24 and only 4 yrs in the game was starting to be exposed to his own potential. Before his death, he was just seeing himself as a fashion icon.
@@Mike-tp5zw the point is that he did he started Brooklyn Mint and he had his own record label with Un Rivera the dude got a 62 Million dollar distribution deal before he passed 😂😂😂
Biggie would have been what jay-z is now
Bigger
No chance. Jay just wouldnt have existed. Biggie was to generous to have that wealth. Jay has destroyed friendships to join the Elite along with his weird wife
Nah he wouldn’t he talk about sucking men dick and raping people!
@Zuri Frazier not really because Jayz is not that friendly and biggie is way too friendly sometimes friends is destructive ans bring you down
Jay-Z was willing to step on anyone To get what he wanted and I don't think biggie would stop kind of person.
This should tell you how highly regarded Biggie was. Companies were willing to invest in him and with him. BIG was a businessman and a business man.
I believe Big would be what Jay z is today if he was still alive and would have introduced a lot of the artist we know today thru his umbrella ✅
BIG not the same business person at all but anything's possible.
If he had a business mind like Jay, he would.
No one will know until someone asks JayZ what he borrowed from Bigs playbook.
Jay z had his own record while big was alive. Jay z was always ahead of other new York artist when he came to business. BIG definitely would of been on the level that Diddy and jay z is on if he would of been of Alive today but jay z would of still be where he is at if BIG was alive
@@andremiller1566 You necessarily can't Say that your going off younger BiG... You could a said the same about Nas at that time too😅 Nas got money in Lyft, Dropbox tilt and Ring.. his biggest investment and his deal with Hennessey Who's to say BIG wouldn't have not invested in today's companies u looking at 24 year old BIG.. He be 51 right now so stop the cap man😂
Somebody put a birdie in Biggie's ear and told him that Puffy tricked him into selling his publishing for $250k. Biggie was trying his best to get away from Puffy.
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Dont see it
Not there
You keep putting the full interview and it’s nothing
Stop putting it if it’s not there bozo
Shut up glad.
Being that it was reported BIG had to refuse to perform at shows until Puffy paid him I fully believe he was ready to leave and had another deal on the table. When your that hot people are always trying to make you a better offer
Ofc
Well yea it would been bound to happen just when your boss eventually u Don't need anyone else equivalent to Jay leaving dame and biggs
That's why I think Puff ordered the hit.
Puff was not letting him put his deal no matter what.
Don't forget Ice Berg Slim 👐
Rest well B.I.G🙏🏽🐐💯
This shouldn’t be a surprise coming from how successful Big was as a solo artist with a multi platinum album, multi platinum singles to go with it and multi platinum features coupled with how successful he was not only as a multi platinum songwriter for others, (Puff, Kim, Jr Mafia) but also as a music executive with his & Un’s Undeas Ent which put out Jr Mafia’s debut album that went gold complete with a platinum single. Plus record companies figured Puff’s music expertise as Bad Boy CEO had/would rub off on him so that $62M was a win win rather could have been.
He only had 2 records.
@@JayCapone37 Yes technically Big only put out two of his own albums, ‘ready to die’ and ‘life after death’ (L.A.D was a double album cause he had been in that car accident with Cease driving [he lost a lot of teeth from hitting his face/mouth off the steering wheel] and Charli Baltimore [she got thrown out of the car, through the windshield & landed on the hood, her head was split wide open] & from the car flipping a few times, Big F’d his leg up cause it got stuck under the dashboard & they had to use the jaws of life to get him out! So he was stuck in the hospital) but he wrote all the songs on Junior Mafia’s album with the exception of lil’ Kim’s verses (it has been stated over and over by numerous people that Kim wrote her own lyrics. That Big would go over her lyrics and tell her what he thought was “whack” and should be taken out. And what to replace it with or how to deliver certain lines) Big also wrote all the songs on lil’ Cease’s album too, so in his short time in the music business Big wrote 5 albums. I feel like the only other artist from back then that could do that would be Mase, cause Mase kept babyboy afloat after Big passed away. To this day I’m still finding out about songs from back in the day that Mase wrote.
@@mollee4950 5 albums in 3 years. That's amazing. His work ethic was insane. '90s rappers like Big, Jay and Pac gave these new millennial rappers the blueprint to being successful like they are today. They saw the '80s cats get jerked and wanted nothing of it.
@@JayCapone37 He was writing other peoples hits 🤡
@K G Nah, Master P is blueprint for independent and distribution. Master P was legit the richest rapper✌🏾
So basically Un is confirming what Gene said. I believe that’s the first time someone in relation to Biggie has done that.
Poochie smoked biggie for free. Get your head outta your ass. LA loved 2pac.
Facts
So basically you are a 2Pac bıtchboy.
I think gene is mostly legit😊😊😊
@Zuri Frazier…FACTS!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽 it’s sad and crazy that we even have to feel this way
Damn...R.I.P. in Peace B.I.G. 🙏
Miss you Big Poppa 😢
Big was dope, would’ve love to hear him on today’s production type tracks
He would wreck these new artists.
Big would probably be in the same boat as Jay. Owning businesses and making a lot of money. While also hopping on a couple artists tracks here and there.
Today's production is fucking horrible.
62 is cap. Otherwise Lance would have confirmed.
😂😂😂He not going to conform cause they gave Un the deal after Biggie died.
You must be a 2Pac fanboy
2pac?
BIG 👑🐐
So basically yeah and 65 Back then is 132 million now 😳
Gene deal failed to warn Biggie's ride about the bow tie guy he flashed on march 9th. Big get taken out by suge's hitman and Now we are left with what if's from that young man. R.I.P. Biggie.
Gene deal warned them 3 times how much more warning they need.
@@chrismitchell7261he warned puffy not biggie
@@queenofnyc5584He warned Big too, outside of Andre Harrells house the night Big got killed!!!! Get your FACTS straight GOOFY!!
He warned Big Ces D_Rock too!! They went anyways!!
@@chrismitchell7261FACTS He warned Puff then outside he warned Big,Ces and D/Rock and they thought it was a Joke,Big Gene wasn't responsible for Big anyways,he was ONLY responsible for Puff??
@myladavis3293 Do your due diligence GOOFY,he did warn Big,before they left for the Vibe party he warned Puff inside and he warned Big,Ces and D-Rock outside?!!!!
TRACEY LEE WAS TOUGH!
62 is ALOT
They only let you spend 10.
Gotta be Finesse2tymes pops
Best thing about this interview is finally understanding what “Un” stands for
Anyone know if Busta was gonna be apart of the Commission? He kind of alluded do it on the Fat Joe interview
Never hears it before but makes sense he was hot at the time
No.
Never heard that but maybe they never got around to doing it. They all went to the same high school, so there's definitely a connection there.
At the start of "What's Beef", Biggie gave a roll call of The Commission's roster...Busta was not on it. But later on, who knows, maybe he would've joined.
busta's a bona fide jamaican and knows how to stay outta the way. ilhe wouldn't have been a member as such bit would have guest on tracks.
on the note of biggies murder he was in the vibe party pleading with biggie to leave. busta was straight barling saying big, u've been green lit. Big didn't wanna hear it doh.
that's 100% facts
What part is the Jayz stabbing?
They haven’t gotten to it yet sweetheart. They been been talking about BIG and Tupac
Notice that he never answers the question asked. He's answers "a question", but not "the question."
Yeah, he gives round about answers
Well we knew Biggie was going to go into other ventures. He said himself by the time he was 30 he wasn’t going to be rapping anymore
“Lance brought Left-Eye that half hearted chain she used to wear” he was in love with her but idk how deep they relationship was ❤
Biggie was making major moves before he died
The Commission would have been huge. BIG, Jay-Z and Charli Baltimore.
@@davidsamuels9557 don't forget Brooklyn mint
Would Puff have liked that?
@@PeterJones4Lifebiggie ain't nas......nas might be the only dude who couldnt make his team pop, whether it was the firm or even breavehearts........
@@PeterJones4Life The Firm didn't have BIG and Jay-Z. Call me crazy, but I think The Commission would have sold a couple of records.
62 is cap of you consider inflation, but basically big had other deals lined up
Big Cap. They weren’t even giving out 1mil deals back then smh
@@immaculatemal1379WRONG!!!! So you never heard of Birdman or Master P FOH 🤓🤓
@@shawtyeatemup1352 for CEO’s that were selling millions of records independently what the hell are you talking about? Master P took less than a Mil and got 85%.
He became an A&R because of Puffy, he didn't wanna be anything but another NY gritty emcee....he wanted to be Big L, Puff showed him he could be much more than that.
Why couldn’t he have changed that pov since that approach was working for him
@@ZYaKnoe249 ...it changed because it was working, but what he became, he owes to Puff.
Puffy showed him to a early grace that’s about it
He wanted to be Griddy but when women started throwing their draws at him, he wanted to keep listening to Puff.
Biggie was a genius for sure .. he was writing everything so his publishing was straight
He could have just said (Yes) 😵
Right. This dude annoy me for some reason
@@tiszonevans3236 I think he has a doc coming out and doesn’t wanna share too much. Also, nobody ever talks about money when they’re still in business.
Me in my Lance to Kim & cees advanced 🙏🏿💯 RIP LEGEND
That sound like a lot of money but it's really not. Not with that huge line up of people you have to pay. Studio time, expenses on the road, and taxes. 5 year contract for 62 mill is like 12.4 a year. Half of that going to taxes. Not to mention that money really is just a loan. The label has to recoup that back. So that's why they say ain't no money like show money. Merchandise and Endorsements is really where you make your bread.
Still a lot of money for that time
62 million was equivalent to 120 million back in 96ish.
Backing what gene said damn
Jay made big diss the west coast on dead presidents then a year later he makes the song “city is mine” after big gets killed. Jay has always been a slick on his way to the top
“What’s that? California? There’s a lot of money there, I’m taking that over” said by Biggs (the RocAFella dude, not a typo for the slow mfs😂) then Biggie saying “Who Shot Ya?” shooting the dice.. you might be on to something
Hov had nothing to do with biggie dissing west coast bro stop with the Jay-Z hate it's God's plan
How you make a grown man do something tho?
Niggas will egg you on to do some foul shit sometimes…
@@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH instigators love that line
So Pac and Big was planning on starting their own record labels. Hip Hop would be in a whole different space of them 2 niggaz lived
Dolph, Gotti, Birdman, Master P etc. all had Distribution deals. And none of those deals were anywhere near that much. I fuck with Gene Deal but he definitely over exaggerated just for clout.
Yup!
That deal was true. They gave the deal to Un after Biggie died. Un signed Cam'ron, Charlie Balumore, Dutch and Spade. Un spent 20 million only putting out Camron and that Cookout movie. They dropped Un , kept Camron and stopped the bank.
@@shantaalli2865 I’m not saying it wasn’t true I’m saying $63 million is EXTREMELY high for the 1996-1997 timeframe. Especially when hip hop was still a growing genre, it still wasn’t the biggest genre at that time.
You speak without knowledge...The Master P and Birdman deals were over 100 million.
@@ez-duz-it I don't know why they say 64 million. If you spend 10 million of the 64 and nothing happen they stop the 🏦 bank.
The Commission is the album I wish we got.😊
Nobody mentions Cam'ron in that deal🤔 interesting.
Listen…..
Gene did
They did big the same way they did Sam Cooke. When they were signing a bunch of people and becoming a boss they got killed on some BS. Go watch Sam Cookes last interview with Dick Clark.
If this is true, puffy definitely took him out. Puff wouldn't handle his own artist getting ritcher than him . Its that Durk and king Von shit. Von was definitely getting offers around the time he died or was about to.
Poochie took out big stop it
He saying Puff allowed BIG to take the fall cause Suge/Cali in general wanted revenge after the Pac loss…
@@kerry2921Poochie took him out but Puff sacrificed BIG fed him to the lions.
62 is a lot but not unbelievable
Wasn’t Camron included in that deal???
That’s not a lot at all for all those artist and what BIG had a reputation for selling at that time
@@darnelldarden9429 62 million in 1997 for a rapper was definitely a lot.
This dude try to make biggie seem like he was the biggest artist in the world talking about he was battling himself on the charts everybody know that's a lie
Nas was king at that moment
Why it seem like you hating ? Biggie was the biggest at the time
@@ZYaKnoe249biggie was outselling nas......
@@tristandaniels9438 nigga why tf would I hate on biggie he wasn't outselling pac he was dead when life after death came out them just facts
Go see what IWW did and come back
He is the product of Big Boy and Dr. Dre having a child 😂
Sound like cap
It would to a loser
Big was about to be a heavyweight champ in the record exec game. Wish I could watch the alternate film where he stayed alive. Pac too.
Good way to not answer the question 😂
VLAD Gene Deal is telling the truth about everything, stop trying get somebody else to say something different bra.
If you wasn't there you can't confirm that
What!?! 🤦🤣🤣🤣
Ask Un about his Untertainment deal. That was a big thing at the time.
Everything Big Gene said coming to light
Um huh sums it up 💎🏅😂😂😂💯Un Rivera😅😅😅
Respectfully I can’t agree with the dominance at that time, 2Pac sold at least 4 million records in that span
Big was thinking business, Pac was acting gangster ..
Big was gonna have Cam up there way before his shine with diplomats
Notice how he didn't really co sign what Gene said
To sum it up: puff had biggie's life insured so the bigger biggie got the more money puff would get if smthn were to ever happen to big..and since big was possibly gna leave bad boy..why not convince big to go to LA where there was a better chance of smthn happening to him and if smthn did happen puff would get paid from big's life insurance..Because after big puff got richer didnt he..jus sayn
I never bought any of Puff's merchandise after Big passed because I never liked him nor trusted him. I copped Big's first two albums because of Big... and I copped Craig Mack's Flava In Ya Ear single with the remix version on the B-side. I think he had something to do with Craig Mack's demise, too, because Craig spoke out against him and he was talking about leaving Bad Boy, too. Now Jamie Foxx is near the edge of death? Somebody needs to look into that dude.
@@KtotheG yea puff a bitch..the whole industry knows that. The only reason he got on was because his dad was in the harlem mob or wateva
I’m gonna tell my grandkids this was Dr Dre
Big was probably going to end up with his on record label. He was going to be a mogul. He learned the game; Puff couldn’t get over on him
The way Un downplays other MCs at the time is funny. Biggie was definitely competing with Nas, Wu, Redman, Snoop and Bone lol
I'm team Nas all day everyday..But I understand what Un was saying..Big was making big moves, He had a working formula. And his artists were popping..
Biggie surpassed all them dudes you named he was the hottest rapper in ny
It’s 50/50, Nas was the hottest in 96 but BIG was gonna take over in 97 with Puff and Mase
@@ZYaKnoe249 I cant front, biggie album in 97 went bananas, and after his death puff and mase had the game on lock, i can only imagine what could of happen if biggie didnt die
Nah in 95 -96 it was ALL Frank White. Nas and Wu were doing their thing but everybody was banging some joint from Big in the streets. I mean you couldn't go 2 minutes without hearing a car go by blasting BIG. I remember this girl I used to mess with say she was tired of hearing dude music all day 😂😂
00:30 he shouldn’t have shown gene that contract man. He probably went and told puf
62 million was more than diddy ever gave him and if Big and Pac went independent they wouldve pulled in billions and owned the rap game and i think people saw that happening and had to get rid of them
No rapper have billions.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 aint jayz a billionaire
So u nean to say 2pacs " All Eyez on Me" album didnt outsell Biggies when it dropped? Please tell the truth. You said Big was competing with himself? Smh ✋️ the hate bro
Biggie was competing with himself..He went platinum on his first album, Junior Mafia had platinum hit and album going gold..Killing features, Dropping hottest verses in Total and 112 singes respectively..
^ Still was people doing just as good if not better
All eyes on me didn’t outsell life after death and me against the world didn’t out sell ready to die
@@toryronbrown9908 ur In denial. Look it up
@@arkadi9226 u look it up I know the facts
Puffy was going to sign to Biggie record label to keep the money in the family.
Gene deal dont lie 🤥 he tells the truth and he and big had a good conversation
Puff couldn’t become a figment of Biggies past.
It probably won’t be a question but I hope VLAD ask what went left in Craig Mack & Biggie’s relationship
True...
From my perspective what I thought was Mack thought he should have been the premier headline Bad Boy artist. I think he resented the fact that Big came on the scene and was given more attention. So Mack didn't like that and Big kinda noticed and and really care for Mack as a result.
P diddy is what happened
I wonder why your write 50 comments for one video. Plus the comments you write on your other account Tell De Truth.
@Kanserus Hey Jalen, glad you to know you’re still following me
This why you cannot trust Puffy
Poochie might have killed BIG but Puffy fed him to the Lions in L.A. . BIG was about to really get to the bag.
SO in other words puffy really did do that….dam.
Basically there was going to be a jayz and dame type split with biggie and puffy 😮
No. Jay and Dame were equal partners and could simply split. Puffy and Big were boss and contractually obligated employee. Big had to honor that contract no matter what. Not the same.
This guy didn't know about the contract wasn't in on it has nothing to share about it
He must be talking about the New York charts lol because everybody knows All Eyez On Me AND Makaveli outsold Biggie
Life After Death wasn’t released until after he died
If this is real. I’d see his current label being mad and upset . And possibly setting him up
I think the fact that Big was possibly leaving Bad Boy to pursue his own thing without Puff gives more credence to the notion that Puff was behind Big being murdered in order for him to gain financially.
But it's already been confirmed that Suge paid Poochie to kill Big.
@@Dwayne3007 confirmed by who?
Tracey Lee's album was 💯
One cheeseburger away…
That was a smooth way of not answering the question😂
So basically Un doesn't know.
Biggies death brought out the shiesty individuals that he spoke of….people he thought was down really wasn’t….would Jay Z even work up the nerve to stab This man if biggie was alive.They wouldn’t be as cool
Bootlegging records can get you stabbed or shot no matter who you run with.
I think your making out that Big had more juice in the streets and his word carried more weight than it actually did, in the rap game yeah he was heavily respected but on the streets he was unknown.
Vlad try to force the truth out of people
Dammm Gone To Soon ! RIP Big Young Legend
Funny thing is *_Big Gene_* just did a video blasting Vlad for not playing his flashbacks in one of Un's interview clips
Great and factual observation
Lol why post this clip?? Un didnt say a damn thing.. vlad question clips 2023
Maybe 3-5 albums each from all those artists.....$62M isn't enough, but he was never going to get what its worth anyways.
I wonder if, un got his name from having a conversation with gene on the regular because gene says understand a lot when talking
Are you for real? 😂
Wasn’t biggie one of if not the only Bad boy artist to recoup sales wise??
Puff stayed steady ripping his artists off
💯 Mogul Ent LLC
Sounds like it was a label deal tho that doesn’t mean he was leaving bad boy & he prob couldn’t have left even if he wanted to without making a deal with puff
Tbh, Un Rivera confirmed what Gene Deal has said.
Wouldn’t have been one of the first times a major act purpose fully went independent??
No. That was a distribution deal. He would of been still with a label, he would just have alot more leverage
Oh okay thanks. Didn’t know
He likes saying we
Un is dancing around the question because Un knows it's true 😂😂
If that was true, then it would mean leaving both undeas and badboy. Which i doubt. That Contract must have been for his undeas entertainment to sign to Major label. All those rappers where already on signed to him through undeas. Where they released 2 albums Lil kim and Jr Mafias.
Or it must have been a proposal. Un is being more careful with his words here you can tell he is not sure.
I hate how this dude talks. Just erks my ears🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣
He ain’t answer the question
So puffy stopped it si he can rich which he did after biggie died sounds like a sacrifice to me
Big would be waaaay bigger than Jay.
Wow that must be a long time ago cuz I just got offered a 100 million for 2 albums 🙋🏿♂️🙆🏿♂️💯💯 I'm still thinking about it not sure yet 🤔
Don't bite the bait!!!
I believe a lot but 62 million contract back then it sounds like bullshit
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
No doubt BIG was leaving Bad Boy🤔💯