I don't know how many yearlings I have bought into over the years, however what I have learnt its vital to see a yearling walk side on, front on and off course from behind as it may better your chances of purchasing a horse that might go on to be allot sounder in its career as a race horse. Yearlings that are slightly off set doesn't bother me at all providing the ex-rays are clear, one must remember they are purchasing a horse that has so much more growing to do and over the year or two while the yearling is being educated and trained these yearling that are slightly off set can end up improving out of sight by the time they are 2 to 3 years old. At the end of the day luck has everything to do with it and the reason I now know this is because I have been to tons of yearling sales, where most of the horses are far from being good regarding confirmation and many even fail vet exams so to speak, yet they go on to be stakes winners. Countless times at yearling sales I have heard trainers say that lot number such & such is not a good type at all, however when its purchased by another trainer and goes on to win at stakes level or occasionally at elite level "Grade/Group 1's". Then the trainer who bought that same yearling goes on to say he/she was a beautiful type as a yearling and now is proving it on the track. The truth is that it's a lotto on 4 legs and for every 100+ horses that are purchased only 1 will go on to be a stakes winner and statistically speaking that percentage reduces dramatically when your talking at the elite level such as Grade/Group 1 winners.
Thanks for the video content! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you researched - Riddleagan Punting Profit Remedy (search on google)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to get rich on the horse racing minus the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cousin got amazing success with it.
One of the more critical things to do when buying a horse is to have the airway scoped. Have a look at the "flaps" that open and close with every breath making sure that there is no paralysis on either side as well as the soft palate to see if it is prone to displacement under exercise stress, which effectively stops a horse from breathing.
In theory, this guy is very good. Whether he can apply the theories he mentions, I don't know. But he knows what he's talking about. That, I do know. I've been buying-selling horses at Keeneland and Fasig-Tipton for many years and I apply the same theories. They've worked for me.
Hi, I'm a vet and a passionate about equestrian world. Any books you can recommand about appreciating a racing horse conformation ou how to choose a "potentiel" future champion ?
Are sale horses ever injured with scopes? Seems that an invasive procedure like this, repeated 20 or 30 times (by each interested buyer's own vet) might cause damage to the soft tissues of the nasal passages, palate, trachea, etc.
No there is no damage from scopes as a horse is NOT scoped "20 or 30 times (by each interested buyer's own vet)". When entered in a sale the horse is scoped by a sale vet and his report entered with the sales office along with the evaluation of the joints, x-rays, etc. It is up to the buyer then to request the veterinary information for the horses they are interested in. After buying a horse, the new owner can request his own veterinary evaluation and if the results vary significantly from the recorded information to his detriment, then he may refuse the sale and the horse is returned to it's original owner.
I could never buy a horse without seeing it walk trot and canter. I agree walk most definately must be good, that will never improve, then the canter thats also very important, but three basic good free, balanced gates are essential. Lets face it there's no room/time to improve movement with a race horse as it can ony go downhill especially as they're forced as two year olds. Very interesting hearing the racing perspective even if it was very limited and simplified. Angles of everything are also rather crittical for movement endurance and speed. Ideally after walking they should turn each horse out for viewing. How marvelouse it would be too be able to choose youngsters never backed by three for riding sport horses from all of these thousands of baby horses. Even then there wont be many that are good enough these days, but still. Unfotunately even at this age the prices are mostly prohibitive for the better ones even though price itself is very often also not a quarantee of success. However quality is always the better starting point. Yes absolutely I study the horses at the races closely, choosing winners based on type, confirmation, attitude and condition, coupled with jockey. Im not a betting man so that's enough for me, "form" for me is also completely uninteresting. Choosing the winner is the reward.......couldn't be bothered sprinting from the ring to the betting booth. I have been known to help others who do exactly that. Placing bets based on things like pedigree is a very shaky idea IMO. I find most commentary on TV and radio on the horses in the ring complete garbage as far as choosing a likely winner is concerned. They rarely if ever at all scream "weak pasterns", "hasn't got a chance" for example LOL, it's all based on form, right whereas I base it on the horse on the day?
ya certainly good breeding has major benefits but doesn't gaurantee champion racehorses-sometimes useless foals!its always a bit of a gamble really and going with gut instinct.
blondenblueeyed for sure. It shows. While it is nice to have a nice temperament, some of the greatest racehorses of all time have had terrible temperaments. Northern Dancer for example, who turned out to also be the greatest stallion of all time.
But you *are* a "betting man", sir. You place your bet every time you bid at the sales. Your money goes on whether that yearling you are betting on will be successful on the track within the next couple of years. That's not very different than one who bets on a horse after watching it in the walking ring before it goes to the track. Only the time frame differs.
@@truthseeker5890 Firstly, English is not my first language. Second off I have a degree in Equine Science. Third, love is always wise and hatred is always foolish. Calm yourself.
@@quizillafreak Here's a little secret for you - if you are going to post in a public forum, you'd better know the language and know what you are talking about!! Stupidity does nothing for the world; it contributes absolutely nothing to society. Consider taking night classes.
Here in Australia circle bit and or rearing bits are used when leading because of bad habits some have especially colts like the one you were seeing , they will take a chunk out of you if you don’t keep them in there place with a few corrections you called it yanking on the bits ,I’d hardly call it that , when you work in the stables you ether correct them or or let them bite you and teach them it’s ok to bite ,not cool it’s not acceptable.
I don't know how many yearlings I have bought into over the years, however what I have learnt its vital to see a yearling walk side on, front on and off course from behind as it may better your chances of purchasing a horse that might go on to be allot sounder in its career as a race horse. Yearlings that are slightly off set doesn't bother me at all providing the ex-rays are clear, one must remember they are purchasing a horse that has so much more growing to do and over the year or two while the yearling is being educated and trained these yearling that are slightly off set can end up improving out of sight by the time they are 2 to 3 years old.
At the end of the day luck has everything to do with it and the reason I now know this is because I have been to tons of yearling sales, where most of the horses are far from being good regarding confirmation and many even fail vet exams so to speak, yet they go on to be stakes winners.
Countless times at yearling sales I have heard trainers say that lot number such & such is not a good type at all, however when its purchased by another trainer and goes on to win at stakes level or occasionally at elite level "Grade/Group 1's".
Then the trainer who bought that same yearling goes on to say he/she was a beautiful type as a yearling and now is proving it on the track.
The truth is that it's a lotto on 4 legs and for every 100+ horses that are purchased only 1 will go on to be a stakes winner and statistically speaking that percentage reduces dramatically when your talking at the elite level such as Grade/Group 1 winners.
Thanks for the video content! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you researched - Riddleagan Punting Profit Remedy (search on google)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to get rich on the horse racing minus the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cousin got amazing success with it.
Absolutely correct.
One of the more critical things to do when buying a horse is to have the airway scoped. Have a look at the "flaps" that open and close with every breath making sure that there is no paralysis on either side as well as the soft palate to see if it is prone to displacement under exercise stress, which effectively stops a horse from breathing.
John Warren was the Queens racing manager. He knows his stuff.
In theory, this guy is very good. Whether he can apply the theories he mentions, I don't know. But he knows what he's talking about. That, I do know. I've been buying-selling horses at Keeneland and Fasig-Tipton for many years and I apply the same theories. They've worked for me.
Hi, I'm a vet and a passionate about equestrian world. Any books you can recommand about appreciating a racing horse conformation ou how to choose a "potentiel" future champion ?
@@anisriahi1313 me too, doyou know a book? Horse Racing is just something else bro!
I would save the trouble by standing next to this guy at an auction and bid for whatever he does.
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Are sale horses ever injured with scopes? Seems that an invasive procedure like this, repeated 20 or 30 times (by each interested buyer's own vet) might cause damage to the soft tissues of the nasal passages, palate, trachea, etc.
No there is no damage from scopes as a horse is NOT scoped "20 or 30 times (by each interested buyer's own vet)". When entered in a sale the horse is scoped by a sale vet and his report entered with the sales office along with the evaluation of the joints, x-rays, etc. It is up to the buyer then to request the veterinary information for the horses they are interested in. After buying a horse, the new owner can request his own veterinary evaluation and if the results vary significantly from the recorded information to his detriment, then he may refuse the sale and the horse is returned to it's original owner.
Buying a horse it's a lottery it can be the best or the worst, zanyatta was regeted at the sale cos of her pedigrees but she was dominate the world.
She was dominant on synthetic
What is form look like?
I could never buy a horse without seeing it walk trot and canter. I agree walk most definately must be good, that will never improve, then the canter thats also very important, but three basic good free, balanced gates are essential. Lets face it there's no room/time to improve movement with a race horse as it can ony go downhill especially as they're forced as two year olds. Very interesting hearing the racing perspective even if it was very limited and simplified. Angles of everything are also rather crittical for movement endurance and speed. Ideally after walking they should turn each horse out for viewing. How marvelouse it would be too be able to choose youngsters never backed by three for riding sport horses from all of these thousands of baby horses. Even then there wont be many that are good enough these days, but still. Unfotunately even at this age the prices are mostly prohibitive for the better ones even though price itself is very often also not a quarantee of success. However quality is always the better starting point. Yes absolutely I study the horses at the races closely, choosing winners based on type, confirmation, attitude and condition, coupled with jockey. Im not a betting man so that's enough for me, "form" for me is also completely uninteresting. Choosing the winner is the reward.......couldn't be bothered sprinting from the ring to the betting booth. I have been known to help others who do exactly that. Placing bets based on things like pedigree is a very shaky idea IMO. I find most commentary on TV and radio on the horses in the ring complete garbage as far as choosing a likely winner is concerned. They rarely if ever at all scream "weak pasterns", "hasn't got a chance" for example LOL, it's all based on form, right whereas I base it on the horse on the day?
What rubbish!!! Clearly from someone who has never owned or been involved with racehorses.
Balanced ‘gates’......I prefer ones with hinges if possible.
ya certainly good breeding has major benefits but doesn't gaurantee champion racehorses-sometimes useless foals!its always a bit of a gamble really and going with gut instinct.
Disagree with his assessment of the importance of temperament. I believe that it should be at the top of the list.
blondenblueeyed for sure. It shows. While it is nice to have a nice temperament, some of the greatest racehorses of all time have had terrible temperaments. Northern Dancer for example, who turned out to also be the greatest stallion of all time.
temperament won't win the race.
W.O.W. This sounds like a science!
He was the Queen’s buddy.
fascinating
"Just because he's related to Lester, doesn't mean the horse is going to wait in the stalls just for when he's ready to buy?"
Is intrasting to read all of you.
11+ years later: what knock-on effects has 2 years of Covid had on this process & result.
But you *are* a "betting man", sir. You place your bet every time you bid at the sales. Your money goes on whether that yearling you are betting on will be successful on the track within the next couple of years. That's not very different than one who bets on a horse after watching it in the walking ring before it goes to the track. Only the time frame differs.
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Look at a horse at three days, three months and three years, rest is a waste of time, you're buying nothing but pedigree which is a real lottery.
Unless you know the bloodlines, which real breeders and show people do.
@@watchgoose You have a slightly higher chance of having a winner, but by no means guaranteed. So many racehorses with good bloodlines do nothing.
And then 2 years later. When they don’t win.
IN the Kebab house.
Those handlers sure like yanking on those bits for no apparant reason.
And, it's *apparent that you should have completed one more grade past the third grade before you quit school.
@@truthseeker5890 Firstly, English is not my first language. Second off I have a degree in Equine Science. Third, love is always wise and hatred is always foolish. Calm yourself.
@@quizillafreak Here's a little secret for you - if you are going to post in a public forum, you'd better know the language and know what you are talking about!! Stupidity does nothing for the world; it contributes absolutely nothing to society. Consider taking night classes.
Here in Australia circle bit and or rearing bits are used when leading because of bad habits some have especially colts like the one you were seeing , they will take a chunk out of you if you don’t keep them in there place with a few corrections you called it yanking on the bits ,I’d hardly call it that , when you work in the stables you ether correct them or or let them bite you and teach them it’s ok to bite ,not cool it’s not acceptable.
Catalogue man. Not really impressed with the words. They didn't really add up to anything enlightening.
try listening again. Also check dosage numbers of parents.
Omg
This guy talked and talked, never said anything!
What is up with that? They don't know horses in Europe.