Wow I could only imagine that uploading each 234 pictures into each app and recording the results took... actual days worth of time and attention. Great stuff! I'm somewhat surprised how well Lens did, because I have a Google phone and use Lens for a lot, but I have found it to be somewhat poor at plant ID, or at least the stuff I normally try to ID here in North Georgia. Maybe I'm just not taking great photos, or of the most identifiable parts.
The confirmed identifications on Google Lens were accurate. But it had some 'help' with the partial correct identifications - what happened was it couldn't make it's own positive ID, so it searched the web for similar photos, and some of those were my own from my website! That happened on at least 5 occasions. I still gave it credit, oh well - lesson learned!
Honestly, this is one of the best reviews I have ever seen. You thoroughly researched the apps, quickly explained your process and the results and the bonus, you didn’t waste anyone’s time!! Equally important, the caution regarding poisonous plants and being trained if you intend to consume something. Now I am off to see what else is on your channel since this video just appeared in my feed!
Thanks for getting right to the results first and then going into more details. I have the one and just got the other. I subbed and belled because you gave us the results right away and that is appreciated.
You are very welcome - and I bet you will find both of those apps helpful. Inaturalist is pretty good too. Even better when you consider that the plant community will chime in with their ID results.
@growitbuildit I respect all the work you put into this. One of my volunteers replied, saying she had already seen the video and that she appreciated that you included the benefits of iNaturalist, as we use it to create projects. I use it but have also found PlantNet and Picture This most reliable.
Thank you for getting to the point. 🎉 I use Picture This. Very pleased with it overall. And you’re right…do your own research to confirm. It’s not always correct but is a great starting point. 🍃 🌿
😊 I truly appreciate you taking the time to do this review!! I'm such a newbie to this area but I am slowly learning and having an app to at least guide me to finding more information is critical.
Thanks for a great video! I have several ID Apps on my phone and always use 2 or 3 to check against each other and then, if I plan to eat it, us this info to find the plant in 2 or 3 of my foraging books, just to be on the safe side.
Absolutely the best way to be Jeff - test on multiple, verify with books or a plant key. I haven't seen any news on people who have made mistakes....but it happens. I know that Blue False Indigo (Baptisia australis) looks similar to Asparagus when emerging, and have read the case studies on people who accidentally ate it. They survived, but had a very rough time.
Definitely a god video that many gardeners would like to see. So if you folks are reading my comment here then I am asking you to please share the link to this video on your other social media profiles.
I've been using Picture This app for about 3 months and love it! I live on 20 acres in N. MS and I have learned a lot about what we have here. I have a fairly large garden and this app has been helpful in identifying "volunteers" and "weeds". It has also been good at identifying trees just by pictures of the trunk. The only thing I think it got wrong, so far, is confusing a Japanese Holly, with a Bay Laurel. Just sharing my experience.
I had picture this for awhile and ended up paying and glad I did. It lets me keep data bases for separate gardens. I also like native maps and how to take care. You can also id bugs and it is really good for caterpillars, butterflies, spiders, etc.
Excellent review. I've used a couple of those online ID gadgets and always wondered how good they might be in the overall sense. When I don't know a plant, it's hard to say if the ID the system gives is accurate without then going back to the library to research through the various guides.
For me, I will try to get really good pics, and then get a hint from the apps. Then, I go to efloras or some source that has a botanical key. But nonetheless, no matter how much info you have, some plants are just really hard to ID due to natural variations that can occur. Most perennial sunflowers can be really tough, or at least have several 'cousins' that look very similar. One way that I found the apps to fail was with goldenrods. I had two different species of goldenrod in the test, and for Canadian Goldenrod (S. canadensis) versus Tall Goldenrod (S. altissima) the main difference is on the underside of the leaf, and the height of the height of the involucres. Really tough to distinguish - but most apps would confidently pic S. canadensis or S. altissima, even though I did not give them enough information.
I've tried a large number, and some are clearly better than others. I had tested them years ago, and found them to not perform well. But some of them have come a long way.
Fully agree - it was by far the best. I was really challenging it too, giving it only pictures of leaves or emerging plants. Not the easiest thing to identify.
Great video. I find an app you didn't test is best. I use garden savvy. It doesn't have too many reviews, but appears to be pretty accurate. It also it 100% free with unlimited uses. So I like it a lot!
@@growitbuildit Let me know what you think. I know its also a community where people post gardening content. Their plant identifier is in their GardenAI part of the app located in the menu on the top left.
Here's a big THANK YOU! You're work to bring this information to us is much appreciated. I myself have not added apps for identification due to the number of misidentifications I have seen and because I have a pretty well trained eye after decades of working with plants. Im glad to see the stats and to hear the differences between the apps. This is going to help a lot of people. I'm curious, though, are these apps regionally focused? I'm in NW Oregon and too often find little offered for those of us in the west. ~Patty~
I've paid for PT for 3+ years now. It used to offer up to three results. However, they must have altered the program within the last year. It now only shows one result. I figured they're just that certain of the result? I've used it far more than I anticipated.
So have I, and I'm pulling it out pretty much every time I'm in the yard, or even out and about when I see something interesting. What I would love is for them to let us create zones and assign plants to them so we could create a map of our yard/garden and even have it remind us to do various things like playing seeds, pruning, etc at appropriate times. Not having a dead simple mapping and calendar setup is a large part of what keeps me out of the yard, lol. I'm a procrastinator and definitely need reminders 😂
I think this whole thing was greatz As far as Inaturalist goes, it was a miss to try the app “Seek” which is w/inaturalist, and is there version of the point-n-shoot identifier, with direct post onto inaturalist. It does pretty good for me in the informal field and I’m a botanist. But I rely on inat and keys mainly in the end.
I would have like to test them all, but had to be selective due to time. I will do this again, and add that one as a few other people mentioned it. I didn't include it initially because the few times I had used it the results weren't good for plants. For insects though, it seems excellent.
@@growitbuildit yay! I also should mention that inaturalist and seek are focused on wild plants while the other apps may be better at identifying garden plants. That said, this was a fantastic study, I’ve sent it to a couple of people because I found it interesting, you’re doing great work, and there’s always time to do more experiments on wildflowers vs cultivated id (although it sounded like that photo packing was a heck of a lot of work) maybe ai can help soon😌
I like inaturalist cause it gives me an opportunity to practice plant ID since it shows you things it might be, things that are known to be nearby. It also leaves the opportunity for someone to come and give their own suggestions (which you can accept or reject). It's definitely more of a communal way of documenting and IDing things. It also allows multiple photos, so I can try to take pictures of all the different parts of a plant I might use to ID it if the app or other users can't.
I'm a big fan of Inaturalist, and will keep it on my phone. Personally I like that they are 'conservative' in their identifications. While PictureThis is the most accurate, I would be afraid that someone may actually try to use an app as the sole source of info before foraging.......
@ bluefish you listed many valid benefits of iNaturalist. I’ll add that the other people confirming or correcting your ID’s can be true experts in their fields. Professional botanists in the case of plants but also entomologists and other biologists. Do any of the other apps offer that, or the ability to build a catalog or life list of observations over time? These benefits aren’t captured by the test methodology but they might have been mentioned.
@@delongdesign that the other thing I like it lets citizen scientists and scientists connect. I also like the project feature. I have a self made one to help me tell if things in my area are invasives, anything I take a picture of that is invasive automatically gets put into that project, it has been very helpful.
Thank you for this video. Very informative! I have been using picture this for several years now. It has really enriched my outdoor/nature/landscaping experience. Also good to know its accuracy (or lack of accuracy) rate. I was surprised to see a lot of the 75 ish percent in there. Still, this and plant ID will only continue to improve over time, so lots to look forward to.
I was really trying to give it a tough test, and for the majority of the pictures it couldn't identify, it was a complete species. So, it was really like the species was missing from it's database. And I often had 3 pictures of the same plant, one leaves, one stalk, and a flower. There are some others that were just difficult too, emerging plants for example. But it definitely seemed to beat most other apps by a good margin (for positive, single-answer ID). Plant.net did very good though, as well as inaturalist when you considered the partially correct answers.
Thanks for this info, and getting right to the point. Was wondering if you’ve heard of Planta, that Ashley from Plant Life with Ashley Anita mentioned. I’m trialing it but I’m a newbie and not sure how it compares. I’m looking for plant care more than ID.
Hi - I haven't used Planta before, and hadn't really heard of it. There are a lot of different apps out there though. It looks to be like Blossom, but hopefully they can have better identifications. I may give it a shot in the future when I update this.
I had to look up who Joey Santore was - and I am subscribed to him. I just never knew his name. Well, he definitely knows his stuff - sort of like a walking botanical database!
Thank you for doing this. I have been using inaturalist and half the time it just tells me it's a dicot. Thanks.... I didn't think that tree was a grass. It gives me about 20% incorrect IDs. Granted, I ask it some weird plants... but I'll definitely try out some others. Wonderful work, thanks.
You are welcome, and I'm glad you found it helpful. If you upload your observations to inaturalist, and get the user feedback, you can often get solid ID info. But the app itself is pretty conservative in it's suggestions. But I can feel your frustration - being told it was a grass!
I've used plantin and plantum apps. Both similar but I do get different results between the 2 when identifying. I don't think the plant care is that helpful as they provide very generalized plant diagnoses so it doesn't quite work as advertised where you snap a photo of your sick plant and it tells you the diagnoses and treatment plan. It's more like "here are a dozen things that could be wrong with your plant". I'll definitely give picture this a go after watching this. Thanks for doing the research for us!🎉
I'm actually a big fan of PlantIn and was using them in the study. But all of a sudden the app quit working and they weren't able to fix it. I cleared the cache, deleted and reinstalled, and it even quit working for me on desktop. I took out support tickets, sent videos/screen captures, and traded emails. So, I just took them out from it since I only got about half-way through the pictures. I agree with you regarding Plant Care. It is very generic stuff. Really, if you can keep the plant in growing conditions that it likes, you normally won't have any problems.
Great video! Would you want to make a similar test with apps that help you identify what's wrong with your house plant? As a newbie balcony gardener it would be incredibly helpful
It's scary accurate. Try it with grasses - you will be impressed. Just still be cautious though, as if it gets a plant wrong, it will be consistently wrong and you won't know.
Hi Marvin - PictureThis will do that, at least it says it will. I have not tried that part of the app. I can tell you though, for most plants, if you keep it in the kind of sunlight/moisture and soil drainage conditions that it likes, you will prevent nearly all potential diseases. For example, nearly all plant problems I've dealt with are usually related to poor draining soil.
Thanks! Installing plantnet right now... previously I've had plantsnap and inaturalist, and wasn't really happy with either one. Will be trying your suggestion today on a species that I've been trying to positively id for several years now, lol (a dead nettle that is not henbit, wild sage, or anything else that other apps have come up with).
Thanks for the analysis! I would be curious to see how the iPhone identification feature stacks up, I use it a lot because I don’t need to launch an app to use it.
I like iNaturalist. When/if I choose the wrong i.d., users will pile on and correct your selection. I give it a 4.7/5. (Sometimes it is adamant that the plant is from interior China, etc)
Interesting - that is an aspect I couldn't really include in the test (the users piling on). But, overall it did perform really well. And since I personally like to consider partial correct along with correct, I consider that it was the #3 (per my test of single photos).
Excellent work. It would be interesting to know if the 20% of failures were on the SAME group of plants, and, if so, would they “pass” with better photos, or were those plants simply not in their databases? Also, COST is an important factor to mention, especially if they require a subscription. Thanks again.
I can assure you that the pictures were in focus, and represented the plant features quite well (leaves, bloom, stalk). For PictureThis, it was almost like they didn't include these specific plants in their database. As in they would mis-identify each photo of a species (Short's Aster, for example). Regarding cost, all but one app had a free version, or free way to use it (which I did). The only one app that didn't have a free option, which I did note in it's section, was Blossom (which was the worst app by far). The free version of PictureThis can be annoying as it often prompts you to sign up and pay, but you just have to click an 'x' in the top right to keep using it. So, the best accuracy for free.
I got leaf snap. I don't know where it would fit in any lists. It's just the one I picked when I was looking for a plant ID app. I take a picture and it gives me an answer or a few possibilities. It is correct most of the time, but I don't use it on the easy stuff I already grow or know. A proper test would be interesting.
thank you for testing. I have used a few of these and I find them tolerable but lacking. The problem is that they search using AI instead of real human experience. If your only choice is to get an ID right away on your phone, then they serve a purpose. If you can take a photo and use a garden forum with a plant identification thread, then you get answers from real people with real experience. When searching for an ID on a non native cultivated plant or a rare houseplant, I have had better results in forums. Depends upon your expectations.
Over the years I've often used FB groups to help in ID, and still do for caterpillars and some insects. But, two apps in particular (plant.net and inaturalist) will usually get you close if not exact. At least getting the correct genus, which is a great jumping off point.
Picture This used to give an ID of what it most likely was and then let you scroll to the next most likely id's if the first may not be accurate. I much preferred when it gave other possible id's in case the first one did not look quite right. I still like the app but liked it better before they made that change.
Some years ago, I was reading about plant ID apps. Some added your photos to the database and got feedback on the correct IDs, which helped grow their database and become more accurate. The idea is that it would grow larger and more accurate over time. Do any of these apps do this?
I honestly don't know. Inaturalist probably does, as the community can rate the ID's as accurate or suggest alternatives when they believe it has gotten it wrong. But I don't have any data for this as the MO of any app.
Thank you for getting straight to the point, and not dragging the video out like most UA-camrs!!!
You are very welcome - I prefer straight-to-the-point videos too
Gotta pad the watch time
Ikr, my pet peeve about many UA-camers. ❤
@growitbuildit Finally someone being thorough about this dilemma big thanks buddy. Subscribing now. ❤😂
@hilohahoma thank you!
Wow I could only imagine that uploading each 234 pictures into each app and recording the results took... actual days worth of time and attention. Great stuff! I'm somewhat surprised how well Lens did, because I have a Google phone and use Lens for a lot, but I have found it to be somewhat poor at plant ID, or at least the stuff I normally try to ID here in North Georgia. Maybe I'm just not taking great photos, or of the most identifiable parts.
The confirmed identifications on Google Lens were accurate. But it had some 'help' with the partial correct identifications - what happened was it couldn't make it's own positive ID, so it searched the web for similar photos, and some of those were my own from my website! That happened on at least 5 occasions. I still gave it credit, oh well - lesson learned!
This is fantastic research for the community. Also, "you are responsible for your own actions" is something I think the world needs to hear more of.
Thank you! And I fully agree - the world needs to hear more of that
Honestly, this is one of the best reviews I have ever seen. You thoroughly researched the apps, quickly explained your process and the results and the bonus, you didn’t waste anyone’s time!! Equally important, the caution regarding poisonous plants and being trained if you intend to consume something. Now I am off to see what else is on your channel since this video just appeared in my feed!
Thank you so much -and I hope you enjoy my other videos!
@@growitbuildit I subscribed!! 😎
I didn't even get past the first five minutes of the video before I knew this channel was a keeper.
Thank you Dave
Wow! I can’t imagine how long this took to do this! Thank you so much!!
You are very welcome - I'm glad you found it helpful!
Thanks! Appreciate getting the results first. So impressed, I actually stayed for the whole thing!
Thank you so much Jon! Glad you enjoyed it, and a big Thank YOU for the super thanks!
Thanks for getting right to the results first and then going into more details. I have the one and just got the other. I subbed and belled because you gave us the results right away and that is appreciated.
You are very welcome - and I bet you will find both of those apps helpful. Inaturalist is pretty good too. Even better when you consider that the plant community will chime in with their ID results.
Wonderful job! And I'm happy to note that Picture This is the winner because that's what I've also found.
Thank you - and I agree. Picture this just seems to be more accurate!
Joe, you're the GOAT! Thank you!
Thank you so much Glenn!
This is wonderful. Im sharing it with our volunteers who rely on these apps for plant I D in the field!!
Oh that is awesome - thank you so much!
@growitbuildit I respect all the work you put into this. One of my volunteers replied, saying she had already seen the video and that she appreciated that you included the benefits of iNaturalist, as we use it to create projects. I use it but have also found PlantNet and Picture This most reliable.
The "ProjectFarm" of plant-id-apps.. love you diving into the per-category information. Thank you!
Thank you Noah! That is quite the compliment as I love ProjectFarm.
I’ve used Picture this for a few years now. Frequently use the plant diagnostics. Thank you for the wonderful video great work😊🌿☮️
Thank you so much Stacey! Glad you found it helpful.
You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you. 🌼🌱🌿🎋🌸🌾
Thank you so much Gin! It means a lot.
So many opinions out there about plant apps! Thanks for sorting it all out. A lot of work!!!
You are very welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Fascinating, thanks for your diligence with this project!
You are very welcome! And thank you for the kind words
Great quality videos, no fluff and thorough research.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for getting to the point. 🎉 I use Picture This. Very pleased with it overall. And you’re right…do your own research to confirm. It’s not always correct but is a great starting point. 🍃 🌿
You are very welcome, and I'm glad to hear you find the same results as I do with Picture This.
Thank you for this info. It confirms what I thought about the app on my phone, in a negative way. I will give the two Apps you suggest a try.
You are welcome. And I hope you find similar results with the two apps. Some plant id apps are just....bad.
Excellent videos. Straight to the point with no waffle or annoying, loud, intrusive “music” competing with your clear and concise instructions.
Thank you - I prefer videos that get straight to the point, so that's what I make. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for all of the time you took to test and put this together. I can't imagine the amount of coffee it would take. Thanks Joe.
You are welcome, and yes, much coffee was involved! Some apps were definitely slower than others...........
😊 I truly appreciate you taking the time to do this review!! I'm such a newbie to this area but I am slowly learning and having an app to at least guide me to finding more information is critical.
You are very welcome! I'm glad I could help you out.
The best is a lot less than I would like. Thank you for doing this.
You are very welcome Patty
Well done great video. Thanks for taking the time!
Thank you - I'm glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for a great video! I have several ID Apps on my phone and always use 2 or 3 to check against each other and then, if I plan to eat it, us this info to find the plant in 2 or 3 of my foraging books, just to be on the safe side.
Absolutely the best way to be Jeff - test on multiple, verify with books or a plant key. I haven't seen any news on people who have made mistakes....but it happens. I know that Blue False Indigo (Baptisia australis) looks similar to Asparagus when emerging, and have read the case studies on people who accidentally ate it. They survived, but had a very rough time.
This is exactly what I have observed myself and I am very experienced at plant ID. Thanks for the data driven conclusion.
Thank you for the kind words. And it is always nice to get confirmations from those who are knowledgeable!
Thank you for another informative video! Big plus, you have a good voice I could listen to you on repeat.
You are very welcome, and thank YOU for the kind words!
Wow! Thank you for going through all that testing, this is super helpful!
You are very welcome! It was a lot of work, but I felt it was worth it.
Definitely a god video that many gardeners would like to see. So if you folks are reading my comment here then I am asking you to please share the link to this video on your other social media profiles.
Thank you!!!!! Very much appreciated.
Super grateful for the time and thought you put into your research and this video. Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
Thank you - I'm very happy you found it helpful. Good luck!
Thank you for sharing the list first!
You are very welcome! No sense making you sit through 10 minutes to say which was the best.
This is so helpful! You really went above and beyond. Thank you.
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I've been using Picture This app for about 3 months and love it! I live on 20 acres in N. MS and I have learned a lot about what we have here. I have a fairly large garden and this app has been helpful in identifying "volunteers" and "weeds". It has also been good at identifying trees just by pictures of the trunk. The only thing I think it got wrong, so far, is confusing a Japanese Holly, with a Bay Laurel. Just sharing my experience.
Thank you for sharing - good to hear you liking PictureThis too
I had picture this for awhile and ended up paying and glad I did.
It lets me keep data bases for separate gardens.
I also like native maps and how to take care.
You can also id bugs and it is really good for caterpillars, butterflies, spiders, etc.
For the paid apps, Picture This seemed to be head and shoulders above everything else.
Thank you for doing this research ❤
You are very welcome - I'm glad you found it helpful
What a great dang video. Thanks for doing all that testing and for reporting the results concisely.
You are very welcome! Glad you found it helpful.
Thank you so much for your kindness and time ❤️
You are very welcome! Glad you liked it.
Timely and helpful! Thank you!🙏🏾🌿💖🌱🌺💖
You are welcome, and I'm very glad I could help you out.
Adding more thanks for this fantastic video.
Hi Annie - thank you very much for the kind words.
Excellent review. I've used a couple of those online ID gadgets and always wondered how good they might be in the overall sense. When I don't know a plant, it's hard to say if the ID the system gives is accurate without then going back to the library to research through the various guides.
For me, I will try to get really good pics, and then get a hint from the apps. Then, I go to efloras or some source that has a botanical key. But nonetheless, no matter how much info you have, some plants are just really hard to ID due to natural variations that can occur. Most perennial sunflowers can be really tough, or at least have several 'cousins' that look very similar.
One way that I found the apps to fail was with goldenrods. I had two different species of goldenrod in the test, and for Canadian Goldenrod (S. canadensis) versus Tall Goldenrod (S. altissima) the main difference is on the underside of the leaf, and the height of the height of the involucres. Really tough to distinguish - but most apps would confidently pic S. canadensis or S. altissima, even though I did not give them enough information.
Thank you for this. Great format...no bs. Subscribed. keep em coming...
You are welcome - glad you enjoyed it
Dude, you are awesome! You were super clear and helpful. 100/10
Thank you! I'm glad it could help you out!
Impressive amount of research to share with us your results! Thanks. I’m another viewer that appreciates the results being given early in your video.
You are very welcome Diane
Great video! Valuable information. Great methodology! Fantastic stuff!
Thank you Nathan! I'm very happy you found it helpful.
ty for sharing and saving us the time to figure out the best! :) you're awesome!
You are quite welcome! Glad I could help you out!
Thanks for doing all the research for us. Valuable info here.
You are very welcome - I'm glad you found it helpful
Heard about the plant apps, never tried one, now I know! Thank you ✅️
I've tried a large number, and some are clearly better than others. I had tested them years ago, and found them to not perform well. But some of them have come a long way.
You're amazing for doing this! Thank you!
Thank you Jennifer! I'm glad you found the info helpful.
I think I Picture This picture is fantastic ! Hadsyingyingloads of different elements to it as well as identity!
Fully agree - it was by far the best. I was really challenging it too, giving it only pictures of leaves or emerging plants. Not the easiest thing to identify.
Great video. I find an app you didn't test is best. I use garden savvy. It doesn't have too many reviews, but appears to be pretty accurate. It also it 100% free with unlimited uses. So I like it a lot!
Just downloaded it per your recommendation. I'll check it out
@@growitbuildit Let me know what you think. I know its also a community where people post gardening content. Their plant identifier is in their GardenAI part of the app located in the menu on the top left.
Will do. I plan to do an update in the future. I will put this app through the same battery of tests as the others.
@@growitbuildit Cool, I can't wait to see your review! I love your content!
Here's a big THANK YOU! You're work to bring this information to us is much appreciated.
I myself have not added apps for identification due to the number of misidentifications I have seen and because I have a pretty well trained eye after decades of working with plants. Im glad to see the stats and to hear the differences between the apps. This is going to help a lot of people. I'm curious, though, are these apps regionally focused? I'm in NW Oregon and too often find little offered for those of us in the west.
~Patty~
Hi - they are not regional in my experience. They are generally drawing on a global database from what I can tell.
I've paid for PT for 3+ years now. It used to offer up to three results. However, they must have altered the program within the last year. It now only shows one result. I figured they're just that certain of the result? I've used it far more than I anticipated.
So have I, and I'm pulling it out pretty much every time I'm in the yard, or even out and about when I see something interesting.
What I would love is for them to let us create zones and assign plants to them so we could create a map of our yard/garden and even have it remind us to do various things like playing seeds, pruning, etc at appropriate times.
Not having a dead simple mapping and calendar setup is a large part of what keeps me out of the yard, lol.
I'm a procrastinator and definitely need reminders 😂
Thank you for sharing that - they must be very confident. And I guess it shows, as they were clearly the winners in the test.
I've got the free version and it still gives me multiple options. Maybe I'm just overdue to update the app.
Thanks for doing this and giving a good idea of what you did to get these results. I value this
You are very welcome.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
You are very welcome!
I think this whole thing was greatz As far as Inaturalist goes, it was a miss to try the app “Seek” which is w/inaturalist, and is there version of the point-n-shoot identifier, with direct post onto inaturalist. It does pretty good for me in the informal field and I’m a botanist. But I rely on inat and keys mainly in the end.
I would have like to test them all, but had to be selective due to time. I will do this again, and add that one as a few other people mentioned it. I didn't include it initially because the few times I had used it the results weren't good for plants. For insects though, it seems excellent.
@@growitbuildit yay! I also should mention that inaturalist and seek are focused on wild plants while the other apps may be better at identifying garden plants. That said, this was a fantastic study, I’ve sent it to a couple of people because I found it interesting, you’re doing great work, and there’s always time to do more experiments on wildflowers vs cultivated id (although it sounded like that photo packing was a heck of a lot of work) maybe ai can help soon😌
Thanks. Excellent review. Clear, comprehensive and knowledgeable.
You are very welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful!
Hell yeah I was already using picturethis as my main. I love proving my preconceived biases correct
Haha - you're welcome!
I like inaturalist cause it gives me an opportunity to practice plant ID since it shows you things it might be, things that are known to be nearby. It also leaves the opportunity for someone to come and give their own suggestions (which you can accept or reject). It's definitely more of a communal way of documenting and IDing things.
It also allows multiple photos, so I can try to take pictures of all the different parts of a plant I might use to ID it if the app or other users can't.
I'm a big fan of Inaturalist, and will keep it on my phone. Personally I like that they are 'conservative' in their identifications. While PictureThis is the most accurate, I would be afraid that someone may actually try to use an app as the sole source of info before foraging.......
@ bluefish you listed many valid benefits of iNaturalist. I’ll add that the other people confirming or correcting your ID’s can be true experts in their fields. Professional botanists in the case of plants but also entomologists and other biologists. Do any of the other apps offer that, or the ability to build a catalog or life list of observations over time? These benefits aren’t captured by the test methodology but they might have been mentioned.
@@delongdesign that the other thing I like it lets citizen scientists and scientists connect.
I also like the project feature. I have a self made one to help me tell if things in my area are invasives, anything I take a picture of that is invasive automatically gets put into that project, it has been very helpful.
Great review of the different options out there.
Glad you liked it- good luck!
Thank you for this video. Very informative! I have been using picture this for several years now. It has really enriched my outdoor/nature/landscaping experience. Also good to know its accuracy (or lack of accuracy) rate. I was surprised to see a lot of the 75 ish percent in there. Still, this and plant ID will only continue to improve over time, so lots to look forward to.
I was really trying to give it a tough test, and for the majority of the pictures it couldn't identify, it was a complete species. So, it was really like the species was missing from it's database. And I often had 3 pictures of the same plant, one leaves, one stalk, and a flower. There are some others that were just difficult too, emerging plants for example. But it definitely seemed to beat most other apps by a good margin (for positive, single-answer ID). Plant.net did very good though, as well as inaturalist when you considered the partially correct answers.
Thanks for this! Great timing for me. Subscribed!
You are very welcome! Glad you are enjoying it.
Thanks for this info, and getting right to the point. Was wondering if you’ve heard of Planta, that Ashley from Plant Life with Ashley Anita mentioned. I’m trialing it but I’m a newbie and not sure how it compares. I’m looking for plant care more than ID.
Hi - I haven't used Planta before, and hadn't really heard of it. There are a lot of different apps out there though. It looks to be like Blossom, but hopefully they can have better identifications. I may give it a shot in the future when I update this.
Picture this was recommended to me by Joey Santore, I knew it would be #1
I had to look up who Joey Santore was - and I am subscribed to him. I just never knew his name. Well, he definitely knows his stuff - sort of like a walking botanical database!
Thank you for doing this. I have been using inaturalist and half the time it just tells me it's a dicot. Thanks.... I didn't think that tree was a grass. It gives me about 20% incorrect IDs. Granted, I ask it some weird plants... but I'll definitely try out some others. Wonderful work, thanks.
You are welcome, and I'm glad you found it helpful. If you upload your observations to inaturalist, and get the user feedback, you can often get solid ID info. But the app itself is pretty conservative in it's suggestions. But I can feel your frustration - being told it was a grass!
"You are responsible for your own actions". You are going to get in trouble for THAT one.....😊
Great review - very helpful. I am now a subscriber. 👍
Thank you Jim. And for those that have a problem with personal responsibility - well - let them cry!
Great review of apps, but would really like you to include Plant Parent in future reviews… I think it’s excellent!
And because of your comment I will do just that!
I would love to see Google lens included in a follow up video. It has worked for me in the past.
Hi - it was in the test! Results are shown a couple minutes in.
Excellent info 🎯Going to try your 2 top picks.... thank you!
Thank you! I hope you find them to perform as well as I have
Thanks! Nice work! Appreciate you sharing this.
Thank you Karen - I'm glad you found it helpful!
I've used plantin and plantum apps. Both similar but I do get different results between the 2 when identifying. I don't think the plant care is that helpful as they provide very generalized plant diagnoses so it doesn't quite work as advertised where you snap a photo of your sick plant and it tells you the diagnoses and treatment plan. It's more like "here are a dozen things that could be wrong with your plant". I'll definitely give picture this a go after watching this. Thanks for doing the research for us!🎉
I'm actually a big fan of PlantIn and was using them in the study. But all of a sudden the app quit working and they weren't able to fix it. I cleared the cache, deleted and reinstalled, and it even quit working for me on desktop. I took out support tickets, sent videos/screen captures, and traded emails. So, I just took them out from it since I only got about half-way through the pictures.
I agree with you regarding Plant Care. It is very generic stuff. Really, if you can keep the plant in growing conditions that it likes, you normally won't have any problems.
Thank you. Just what I was looking for.😊
You are very welcome - glad it was helpful!
Great video! Would you want to make a similar test with apps that help you identify what's wrong with your house plant? As a newbie balcony gardener it would be incredibly helpful
Hi - I probably couldn't do it because we actually have very few houseplants! Plus I would have to get them infected with specific diseases
I use Picture This. It is accurate almost always. I am amazed how quickly it can ID even the smallest plants.
It's scary accurate. Try it with grasses - you will be impressed. Just still be cautious though, as if it gets a plant wrong, it will be consistently wrong and you won't know.
Thank you for getting to the point!!
You are very welcome May!
Excellent information. Do the top 2 apps identify what the plant or tree needs if unhealthy? Thanks, Mary
Hi Marvin - PictureThis will do that, at least it says it will. I have not tried that part of the app. I can tell you though, for most plants, if you keep it in the kind of sunlight/moisture and soil drainage conditions that it likes, you will prevent nearly all potential diseases. For example, nearly all plant problems I've dealt with are usually related to poor draining soil.
Thanks! Installing plantnet right now... previously I've had plantsnap and inaturalist, and wasn't really happy with either one. Will be trying your suggestion today on a species that I've been trying to positively id for several years now, lol (a dead nettle that is not henbit, wild sage, or anything else that other apps have come up with).
You are welcome - I am curious how it does with your mystery plant. Please let me know.
@@growitbuildit top result came up as hemp nettle, and after looking it up it seems to be correct :)
@@AgnesMariaL Cool - glad to hear it.
Great advice,thank you!
Thanks for the analysis! I would be curious to see how the iPhone identification feature stacks up, I use it a lot because I don’t need to launch an app to use it.
I'll have to try that. I have an iphone for my job, but almost never use it outside of work.
@@growitbuildit I have a feeling it will not perform well… It works pretty good for wildlife though.
I like iNaturalist. When/if I choose the wrong i.d., users will pile on and correct your selection.
I give it a 4.7/5.
(Sometimes it is adamant that the plant is from interior China, etc)
Interesting - that is an aspect I couldn't really include in the test (the users piling on). But, overall it did perform really well. And since I personally like to consider partial correct along with correct, I consider that it was the #3 (per my test of single photos).
I have found LeafSnap to be fairly accurate. It gives a few options of what it thinks your plant might be.
Thank you for this - I will download it and check it out.
Excellent work. It would be interesting to know if the 20% of failures were on the SAME group of plants, and, if so, would they “pass” with better photos, or were those plants simply not in their databases? Also, COST is an important factor to mention, especially if they require a subscription. Thanks again.
I can assure you that the pictures were in focus, and represented the plant features quite well (leaves, bloom, stalk). For PictureThis, it was almost like they didn't include these specific plants in their database. As in they would mis-identify each photo of a species (Short's Aster, for example).
Regarding cost, all but one app had a free version, or free way to use it (which I did). The only one app that didn't have a free option, which I did note in it's section, was Blossom (which was the worst app by far). The free version of PictureThis can be annoying as it often prompts you to sign up and pay, but you just have to click an 'x' in the top right to keep using it. So, the best accuracy for free.
Thanks so much for this! Im too reliant on Google lens
You are very welcome - hope you find PictureThis and Plant.net as helpful as I have.
Hey, great video. You saved me a lot of time! I used Flora incognita and leafsnap before. Maybe you will review them at some point
Since you said so, I will download them. I may not do an update for a long time, but they are on the list!
Appreciate all the info😉👍🏻
You are very welcome - glad you found it helpful
Thanks your info is so helpful!!!
Thank you so much Lynne! I'm very happy you found liked the test & results!
Good review, thanks.
You're welcome - there is a lot of garbage out there.
Great test. Thank you😀
Thank you - I'm glad you found it helpful!
I got leaf snap. I don't know where it would fit in any lists. It's just the one I picked when I was looking for a plant ID app. I take a picture and it gives me an answer or a few possibilities. It is correct most of the time, but I don't use it on the easy stuff I already grow or know. A proper test would be interesting.
I've downloaded leaf snap - a few other people mentioned it. So I will give it a try for a future update.
thank you for testing. I have used a few of these and I find them tolerable but lacking. The problem is that they search using AI instead of real human experience. If your only choice is to get an ID right away on your phone, then they serve a purpose. If you can take a photo and use a garden forum with a plant identification thread, then you get answers from real people with real experience. When searching for an ID on a non native cultivated plant or a rare houseplant, I have had better results in forums. Depends upon your expectations.
Over the years I've often used FB groups to help in ID, and still do for caterpillars and some insects. But, two apps in particular (plant.net and inaturalist) will usually get you close if not exact. At least getting the correct genus, which is a great jumping off point.
Thank you!! Extremely useful video!
You are very welcome - I'm glad you found it helpful!
Great work. Thank you!
Thank you so much!
Very helpful info, thanks!
You are very welcome
Ty. Subscribed and shared.
Thank you so much Joyce! I'm glad I could help you out.
Wow, this is so helpful. Thank you❤
You are very welcome Charlene - I'm glad you found it helpful.
Thank you so much for doing this.
You are very welcome Joan!
Picture This used to give an ID of what it most likely was and then let you scroll to the next most likely id's if the first may not be accurate. I much preferred when it gave other possible id's in case the first one did not look quite right. I still like the app but liked it better before they made that change.
Thank you for sharing that info - I would have preferred multiple suggestions too.
Thank You!
You are very welcome!
Amazing content. Thanks
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it
Wow, thank you! Shared :)
Thank you Jake - I appreciate that. And I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Some years ago, I was reading about plant ID apps. Some added your photos to the database and got feedback on the correct IDs, which helped grow their database and become more accurate. The idea is that it would grow larger and more accurate over time. Do any of these apps do this?
I honestly don't know. Inaturalist probably does, as the community can rate the ID's as accurate or suggest alternatives when they believe it has gotten it wrong. But I don't have any data for this as the MO of any app.
@@growitbuildit Thank You.
If I can find the info, I will pass it back to you.
I would appreciate that. Thank you