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This is brilliant! As a parent of adult children, do not underestimate the power of snap shots when it comes to your own kids. Those will be the photos you cherish.
The dead-eye look when a kid is immersed in a video is hard to overcome, and definitely makes them look stoned. I love the idea of facetime with a relative to get them to liven up and appear engaged.
This was amazing! I may have a solution for the one sided FaceTime issue. The latest iPadOS version allows you to plug in a webcam via iPad USB C. So in theory, if your camera has a built in webcam mode, you could connect to iPad and it’ll let you choose your FT camera. As long as grandma doesn’t mind seeing the camera ui, this would be my next step
@@PR15125 You could. You would need to rig a mirror to it. If you are handy with making stuff like that. Might be easier to mount the iphone next to the lens / camera and see if that works.
@@kawag2780 Scissors, cardboard and some tape would suffice. Way more available than phone holders allowing securely hold expensive phone and point it in direction needed.
The other thing that will help, based on what you've shown, is to spend some time with him in the studio without trying to take any photos. Carry him around, help him touch things gently, give him things to interact with that he can't hurt. More experience will equal more comfort will equal more natural behavior. And make some sets with toys and just see what you get from those interactions. One set of baby photos in the extended family was done by adults draping a large sheet over themselves and holding the babies. The babies just look like they're relaxing on a white billowy background and you can't tell they're being held at all.
This would probably also work great for pet photography. You'd just need a suitable collection of clips showing dogs playing, squirrels squirrelling, some birds in a cage, etc. (whatever would get the dog/cat's attention). --- For the baby facetime thing you could put a tiny mirror over the front facing camera at 45 degrees. Wouldn't affect the teleprompter image but would allow the person on the other end of the call to see the subject.
for interaction over facetime(or any online meeting app) I'd do group meeting and use a separate phone to present subject to remote caller. if you use a laptop/tablet PC then an external USB camera can also do nicely. This is a great method you presented, I'll definitely try with my kid.
Some tablets can be used as additional displays for your computer. If the camera has HDMI out, and you have an HDMI capture device, you can initiate the call on the computer, use the tablet as the monitor for the computer, and the camera you are shooting with as the camera for the video call. Then you don't need a group call - 1:1 works fine, and instead of the person on the call getting a side view of the scene, they would be able to see exactly what the photographer sees.
Love the idea. I'm a retired photographer and have shot infant portraits using that same seat (or close to it), and have found just by using a blanket you can camouflage the seat. Besides adding props makes the shot more dynamic. Kids at that age will belly laugh at just about anything. My trick was to find that funny bone trigger. I've also shot a number of K9 portraits for police units. I would use a table with and a curved mount board. Using a fav squeaky toy, I would get their attention and perk up the ears.
So in my studio I had a tabletop I would use when I shot product photos. When I shot k9 portraits I would use a large 30x40(ish) mount board that I would bend to a radius over the leading edge of the table. The reason was so the table didn't leave a crease on the background roll. That way I have the option of a background/hair light, or just roll the background paper over the mount board. I found that having the dog up high they wouldn't be so fast at jumping down, as well as getting the camera down to eye level without laying on the floor. As soon as they see/hear their fav toy the mouth would close and the ears would perk up. @@tinderbox218
Use the tablet's main (rear-facing) camera. It's facing down towards the floor in the teleprompter, so just need a simple mirror beneath it direct it forward.
I photograph kids regularly and never thought of this teleprompter idea. Super clever! I think a modern solution would be to use generative fill to replace the seat? For photos like this, I don't see it as problematic - I'd just want to keep the actual hands/body features you're trying to capture. Tips: It helps to think of the studio as more free-range with the young kids. As the child moves around, adjust lights (key becomes fill, fill becomes hair, hair becomes key, etc.) using the TTL settings on your remote trigger. Before starting, take time to let them see the lights working, to explore a bit. Talking in the repetitive style of Miss Rachel definitely helps. Then I play peek-a-boo with the camera. Never underestimate the power of peekaboo :D
Amazing idea. For several years I shot for Parents Magazine. On cover shoots with toddlers we'd have a baby wrangler basically standing at my shoulder laughing and holding toys and noisemakers above my camera lens. By the end of the day I was exhausted and secretly wishing the baby wrangler never showed up for the shoot. Often we'd use the mother/father/grandparents to stand in for the baby wrangler to get the kid to react. And I started this when I used to shoot with a Phase One back and the capture time was SO slow that even when the kid was looking great and happy by the time my camera caught up with the kid the expression changed. Now with an R5 and fast recycle times on Profoto it would be so much easier.
This was such a great idea, I definitely need to try this. I photograph a lot of kids in my studio and I have a teleprompter, but I have never thought of doing this 😃👍
Idea: 1. Macbook - with webcam (maybe ZVE10?). 2. 8'in monitor laying flat on the teleprompter. 3. Turn on FaceTime in Macbook. Grandma can see baby --> baby can see grandma!
awesome discovery video. The video can be you, your face and playing with things he knows As to the facetime trouble, try placing a small mirror at 45 degrees on the ipads camera
Even without a full studio rig, I can see this working for the average family - get the $100 teleprompter, use to keep attention during any kind of baby photos! Very creative idea, thanks for sharing.
if you put a mirror there instead of an iPad it will help with headshot portraits of people who are not accustomed to posing for photography, they will be able to see their reflections and adapt their facial expressions accordingly.
I figured this trick out during covid. My original goal was to do online interviews and make it seem like i'm looking at them (looking into the camera) vs looking away. Then when i realized i was seeing the same thing with my nephew when he came over, i used the exact same method to take pictures. BTW, to solve your issue with camera, if you have an ipad with usb c, any webcam will work so you can use that method.. for facetime. I was using a surface tablet so it was a bit easier then.. but now i have an ipad too.
I do kids' photos completely the other way around. I bring my gear to the kids, not move the kids to the gear. I let the kids do what they want and I use the most shallow depth of field (f/1.4). I can create an interesting background with christmas lights and just wait with the camera in my hand for a smile and a happy expression. Face and eye detect are so great these days. Happy expressions aren't made on demand. You have to wait for them to happen and be ready when they do happen.
Awesome idea! I'm going to try this with my nephew! I recommend playing silent animated short films. Try Disney's Party Cloudy short film. I used to play this for my nephew when he was little and there's a lot of expressions and reactions he would have when watching it. I think I'm going to try to film testing this while visiting for Thanksgiving! Thanks Patrick!!
Great idea! I will try it for making self portraits or even model shoots! When facetiming with Hudson's grandmother it might help when you mount a little mirror above the camera of the Ipad under a 45 degree angle in a position that grandmother can see Hudson. Maybe it shows him upside down (I don't have a teleprompter at hand to try it myself) but she may like that more than the ceiling of your studio.
Awesome. Girdle under his shirt attached to the ceiling or by a cable to bend with back ground or post production or attach girdle to a bookmark/tripod.
What a great idea!! I'll try it with my niece! Thank you! You can try to tether your camera and use it also as a webcam for the Videocall, it may work to have a two-way communication.
This is genius! great work. If you have an iPad Pro with the latest software, it now supports external webcams so you could use that for future facetime calls. That way you can still have the iPad in the teleprompter and whoever you're calling can see the subject.
That is freaking BRILLIANT! I did watch the video but this is one of those ideas that's so obvious once it's mentioned (not that I would have thought of it) that this is a no-brainer for anyone shooting kids' portraits. And yes, finding a cue of videos guaranteed to make kids laugh is the next thing. Depending how old the kid is an absurd AI image (like a duck driving a truck?) should trigger the "that's so silly!" giggles that make for great images (and it's a concept that would work well for all ages -- just need to curate the right kind of absurd images and memes meant to get the reaction I want from the subject).
Use the USB camera app and then get an adapter and a USB cam then enable external camera you could also just call the grandma with two different phones cover up one and sunsets a group call just shrink down the other videos and then use that camera as the one that she sees
This is brilliant. I wish I would have thought of this when my son was little. Now he’s almost through college. I could totally see a bunch of studios adopting this. For FaceTime, the new iPad are USB-C. Maybe a second camera that a webcam mode would work. If not on the iPad then maybe with a Mac and a secondary display in the teleprompter.
OMG what a great solution to get a straight look into the camera from a child. But also a good point that it is then harder to evoke emotions as interacting with the child would pull the attention away from the camera again. Would have guessed to see stronger reflections in the child´s eye. As I do also have a teleprompter but also see reflections in my glasses when doing teams calls.
Yes, interacting is the most difficult part becuase the second you poke your head out from behind the screen, the effect is ruined. I haven't noticed any weird reflections but at worst you'd probably just get a small colored catch light in the middle of his eye. No big deal. -P
Great idea, as a long time photographer I'd suggest creating more contrast in highlight and a little shadow on the face and tone down the hair light by a lot.
To try and make FaceTime work, tear up a cheap pair of binoculars to remove the prism. Set the prism on top of the front facing camera and then rotate it towards the photo subject. Might work, might not.
Genius. ❤ Try showing them pictures of you, his mother and other people he knows. In that age they don't need Disney or else. Or record videos of yourself and others with actions you know make him laugh (e.g. Peek-a-boo). That should work like a charm.
The problem with this is the real dad and mom are right there in the room yet we can’t hold his attention because we are too familiar. I think the reason videos and grandma on FaceTime work is because they aren’t as common and they grab his attention more. -P
I have lots of great pictures of my sons at that age, but the studio setting was admittedly always a frustration. I will be utilizing this with other families though! It’s brilliant. My favorite pictures are from took them outside with a few interesting things to investigate (an apple, pumpkin, some wooden toys, cute but unbreakable Christmas ornaments…) and captured their experience. We have the benefit of being surrounded by nature, so backdrops come easily. It’s not the same style, but I’m willing to trade the perfection of a studio for inclusion of the chubby hands and thigh rolls. 😏
this is a great idea, might i recommend a small mirror over the front facing camera? you could do a three way call but you weary of audio, if you don't mute you'll get a feedback loop....Zoom....
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This is brilliant! As a parent of adult children, do not underestimate the power of snap shots when it comes to your own kids. Those will be the photos you cherish.
One reason I’ve been following Fstoppers for 10 years is they’re always experimenting and always honest in their videos. Keep up the great work guys.
The dead-eye look when a kid is immersed in a video is hard to overcome, and definitely makes them look stoned. I love the idea of facetime with a relative to get them to liven up and appear engaged.
Stoned babies…that sounds like a great series! -P
This was amazing! I may have a solution for the one sided FaceTime issue.
The latest iPadOS version allows you to plug in a webcam via iPad USB C. So in theory, if your camera has a built in webcam mode, you could connect to iPad and it’ll let you choose your FT camera. As long as grandma doesn’t mind seeing the camera ui, this would be my next step
Wouldn't piece of mirror work to reflect image into existing camera?
You could also add another call using an iphone on a stand where grandma can see him.
I think you can use your own iPhone as a the main camera. At least on the MacBook it is a option
@@PR15125 You could. You would need to rig a mirror to it. If you are handy with making stuff like that. Might be easier to mount the iphone next to the lens / camera and see if that works.
@@kawag2780 Scissors, cardboard and some tape would suffice. Way more available than phone holders allowing securely hold expensive phone and point it in direction needed.
The other thing that will help, based on what you've shown, is to spend some time with him in the studio without trying to take any photos. Carry him around, help him touch things gently, give him things to interact with that he can't hurt. More experience will equal more comfort will equal more natural behavior.
And make some sets with toys and just see what you get from those interactions.
One set of baby photos in the extended family was done by adults draping a large sheet over themselves and holding the babies. The babies just look like they're relaxing on a white billowy background and you can't tell they're being held at all.
This would probably also work great for pet photography.
You'd just need a suitable collection of clips showing dogs playing, squirrels squirrelling, some birds in a cage, etc. (whatever would get the dog/cat's attention).
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For the baby facetime thing you could put a tiny mirror over the front facing camera at 45 degrees. Wouldn't affect the teleprompter image but would allow the person on the other end of the call to see the subject.
for interaction over facetime(or any online meeting app) I'd do group meeting and use a separate phone to present subject to remote caller. if you use a laptop/tablet PC then an external USB camera can also do nicely.
This is a great method you presented, I'll definitely try with my kid.
Some tablets can be used as additional displays for your computer. If the camera has HDMI out, and you have an HDMI capture device, you can initiate the call on the computer, use the tablet as the monitor for the computer, and the camera you are shooting with as the camera for the video call. Then you don't need a group call - 1:1 works fine, and instead of the person on the call getting a side view of the scene, they would be able to see exactly what the photographer sees.
Love the idea. I'm a retired photographer and have shot infant portraits using that same seat (or close to it), and have found just by using a blanket you can camouflage the seat. Besides adding props makes the shot more dynamic. Kids at that age will belly laugh at just about anything. My trick was to find that funny bone trigger. I've also shot a number of K9 portraits for police units. I would use a table with and a curved mount board. Using a fav squeaky toy, I would get their attention and perk up the ears.
"I would use a table with and a curved mount board" Can you elaborate on this a little?
So in my studio I had a tabletop I would use when I shot product photos. When I shot k9 portraits I would use a large 30x40(ish) mount board that I would bend to a radius over the leading edge of the table. The reason was so the table didn't leave a crease on the background roll. That way I have the option of a background/hair light, or just roll the background paper over the mount board. I found that having the dog up high they wouldn't be so fast at jumping down, as well as getting the camera down to eye level without laying on the floor. As soon as they see/hear their fav toy the mouth would close and the ears would perk up. @@tinderbox218
Use the tablet's main (rear-facing) camera. It's facing down towards the floor in the teleprompter, so just need a simple mirror beneath it direct it forward.
I photograph kids regularly and never thought of this teleprompter idea. Super clever!
I think a modern solution would be to use generative fill to replace the seat? For photos like this, I don't see it as problematic - I'd just want to keep the actual hands/body features you're trying to capture.
Tips: It helps to think of the studio as more free-range with the young kids. As the child moves around, adjust lights (key becomes fill, fill becomes hair, hair becomes key, etc.) using the TTL settings on your remote trigger. Before starting, take time to let them see the lights working, to explore a bit. Talking in the repetitive style of Miss Rachel definitely helps. Then I play peek-a-boo with the camera. Never underestimate the power of peekaboo :D
That is genius! I think this would work for my 5-year-old as well, not just babies.
Great idea. I once cut a lens hole out of foam core. Then drew an eye around the hole making an anime character. It worked!
Amazing idea. For several years I shot for Parents Magazine. On cover shoots with toddlers we'd have a baby wrangler basically standing at my shoulder laughing and holding toys and noisemakers above my camera lens. By the end of the day I was exhausted and secretly wishing the baby wrangler never showed up for the shoot. Often we'd use the mother/father/grandparents to stand in for the baby wrangler to get the kid to react. And I started this when I used to shoot with a Phase One back and the capture time was SO slow that even when the kid was looking great and happy by the time my camera caught up with the kid the expression changed. Now with an R5 and fast recycle times on Profoto it would be so much easier.
GE-NI-US!!! Just GENIUS!!!
Very clever! I, too, have been struggling taking photos of my 7 month old twins haha. I need to try this!
This is an excellent idea! Because there's so many vloggers, these teleprompters have become very user-friendly and affordable.
This is so ridiculously simple, I can't believe this is the first time I've seen this idea fleshed out. Kudos.
This was such a great idea, I definitely need to try this. I photograph a lot of kids in my studio and I have a teleprompter, but I have never thought of doing this 😃👍
This is a fantastic solution for photographing kids with special needs. Thank you so much#
Pat that’s genius man!! Also, congrats on papahood and Hudson’s a looker. That little grin!! 😂
Idea:
1. Macbook - with webcam (maybe ZVE10?).
2. 8'in monitor laying flat on the teleprompter.
3. Turn on FaceTime in Macbook.
Grandma can see baby --> baby can see grandma!
What a cute little chunk! Oh, enjoy him. Love this tip!
awesome discovery video.
The video can be you, your face and playing with things he knows
As to the facetime trouble, try placing a small mirror at 45 degrees on the ipads camera
Wow... you guys have done a few things in the past that I thought were super smart... but this is borderline brilliant!!!
Even without a full studio rig, I can see this working for the average family - get the $100 teleprompter, use to keep attention during any kind of baby photos! Very creative idea, thanks for sharing.
if you put a mirror there instead of an iPad it will help with headshot portraits of people who are not accustomed to posing for photography, they will be able to see their reflections and adapt their facial expressions accordingly.
brilliant
I figured this trick out during covid. My original goal was to do online interviews and make it seem like i'm looking at them (looking into the camera) vs looking away. Then when i realized i was seeing the same thing with my nephew when he came over, i used the exact same method to take pictures. BTW, to solve your issue with camera, if you have an ipad with usb c, any webcam will work so you can use that method.. for facetime. I was using a surface tablet so it was a bit easier then.. but now i have an ipad too.
Great thinking outside the box, why did nobody (including me) not think of this earlier !!!
I do kids' photos completely the other way around. I bring my gear to the kids, not move the kids to the gear. I let the kids do what they want and I use the most shallow depth of field (f/1.4). I can create an interesting background with christmas lights and just wait with the camera in my hand for a smile and a happy expression. Face and eye detect are so great these days. Happy expressions aren't made on demand. You have to wait for them to happen and be ready when they do happen.
Thank you for a lovely technique - i am going to use it
Awesome idea! I'm going to try this with my nephew! I recommend playing silent animated short films. Try Disney's Party Cloudy short film. I used to play this for my nephew when he was little and there's a lot of expressions and reactions he would have when watching it. I think I'm going to try to film testing this while visiting for Thanksgiving! Thanks Patrick!!
Great tip, I usually just put a small stuffed toy on top of my camera and it works fairly well.
This is brilliant! How have I never thought about this before.
I always use miss Rachel, or gracies corner videos for my photo shoots. The kids love it.
Yeah I was using Ms Rachel’s caterpillar song for this session. That video and song mesmerizes him! -P
This is a super brilliant idea. What a hack 👏🏾👏🏾
Amazing! This is innovation! Thank you for sharing this technique!!!
The greatest tricks are always the simplest ones. This is dope.
Great idea! I will try it for making self portraits or even model shoots!
When facetiming with Hudson's grandmother it might help when you mount a little mirror above the camera of the Ipad under a 45 degree angle in a position that grandmother can see Hudson. Maybe it shows him upside down (I don't have a teleprompter at hand to try it myself) but she may like that more than the ceiling of your studio.
iPads now support USB cameras. Maybe you could run one as an external camera for facetime to give the person on the other side better visibility?
This is a very good idea!! I will try it with my daughter! Thank you for sharing
Beautiful child, God bless you family and Thanks for that great idea👍🏽
Awesome. Girdle under his shirt attached to the ceiling or by a cable to bend with back ground or post production or attach girdle to a bookmark/tripod.
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Omgosh! So brilliant!
What a great idea!! I'll try it with my niece! Thank you! You can try to tether your camera and use it also as a webcam for the Videocall, it may work to have a two-way communication.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing.
This is genius! great work. If you have an iPad Pro with the latest software, it now supports external webcams so you could use that for future facetime calls. That way you can still have the iPad in the teleprompter and whoever you're calling can see the subject.
this is rocket science! you deserve a nobel prize!
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Great idea! Tipp for your facetime problem: plug in a external cam on your pad, then the facetime partner can also see whats going on.
Genius idea! I will have to try this.
Outstanding idea!
That is freaking BRILLIANT! I did watch the video but this is one of those ideas that's so obvious once it's mentioned (not that I would have thought of it) that this is a no-brainer for anyone shooting kids' portraits. And yes, finding a cue of videos guaranteed to make kids laugh is the next thing. Depending how old the kid is an absurd AI image (like a duck driving a truck?) should trigger the "that's so silly!" giggles that make for great images (and it's a concept that would work well for all ages -- just need to curate the right kind of absurd images and memes meant to get the reaction I want from the subject).
Absolute genius idea, going to try this myself
You BRILLIANT man... thank you for this awesome idea!!!
Boom! Why have I never seen this trick before?! Thanks Fstoppers!
I dunno, I’ve never seen it either. This is my idea although maybe someone else has done it too. -P
Wow, great idea! Thanks for sharing!
So simple and brilliant.
That is really brilliant idea, really! Thanks and thumbs up 👍🏻
Props. Brilliant idea.
Use the USB camera app and then get an adapter and a USB cam then enable external camera you could also just call the grandma with two different phones cover up one and sunsets a group call just shrink down the other videos and then use that camera as the one that she sees
This is one of the best ideas I saw in time of youtube
Good Trick! It looks like it worked really well!
This is so smart! Thank you for sharing.😊
Genius idea!
Wow, what a fantastic video, great discovery on a use for a Teleprompters.
Brilliant idea!😊
Toys for the hands!
That's the boss baby
Hah we know! Or Gerber -P
So clever! I might give it a try as I have all the tools. My daughter is 2.5 years old and she is constantly moving, it's impossible.
This is brilliant. I wish I would have thought of this when my son was little. Now he’s almost through college. I could totally see a bunch of studios adopting this.
For FaceTime, the new iPad are USB-C. Maybe a second camera that a webcam mode would work. If not on the iPad then maybe with a Mac and a secondary display in the teleprompter.
I saw our Sony a6700 supports a webcam mode, so may need to try this out.
This technique is really creative and useful. Thanks for sharing!
What a great idea!
Awesome, question so your shooting through the reflected glass with the camera correct?
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OMG what a great solution to get a straight look into the camera from a child.
But also a good point that it is then harder to evoke emotions as interacting with the child would pull the attention away from the camera again.
Would have guessed to see stronger reflections in the child´s eye. As I do also have a teleprompter but also see reflections in my glasses when doing teams calls.
Yes, interacting is the most difficult part becuase the second you poke your head out from behind the screen, the effect is ruined. I haven't noticed any weird reflections but at worst you'd probably just get a small colored catch light in the middle of his eye. No big deal. -P
Great idea but the introduction at the beginning is even greater and funny. Thank you. Regards from Hamburg
Great idea, as a long time photographer I'd suggest creating more contrast in highlight and a little shadow on the face and tone down the hair light by a lot.
Brilliant, and I think we could do it with adults as well!
Very clever. Well done
Very clever! 😮
To try and make FaceTime work, tear up a cheap pair of binoculars to remove the prism. Set the prism on top of the front facing camera and then rotate it towards the photo subject. Might work, might not.
Genius! Brilliant! Fantastic! Game-changing idea! What else can we say about this?!
Genius. ❤ Try showing them pictures of you, his mother and other people he knows. In that age they don't need Disney or else. Or record videos of yourself and others with actions you know make him laugh (e.g. Peek-a-boo). That should work like a charm.
The problem with this is the real dad and mom are right there in the room yet we can’t hold his attention because we are too familiar. I think the reason videos and grandma on FaceTime work is because they aren’t as common and they grab his attention more. -P
I have lots of great pictures of my sons at that age, but the studio setting was admittedly always a frustration. I will be utilizing this with other families though! It’s brilliant.
My favorite pictures are from took them outside with a few interesting things to investigate (an apple, pumpkin, some wooden toys, cute but unbreakable Christmas ornaments…) and captured their experience. We have the benefit of being surrounded by nature, so backdrops come easily. It’s not the same style, but I’m willing to trade the perfection of a studio for inclusion of the chubby hands and thigh rolls. 😏
What a master stroke. Wish I'd sen this 10 years ago!
Brilliant stuff!
Wow, what a fabulous concept! Well done, brilliant!
Amazing!
Great idea!!
This is freakin' brilliant! Thanks, bro!
You are a genius! 👍🤩
Very cool experiment!
Love it!!
This is brilliant! Now I have an idea for my next photo shoot
What a brilliant idea! Thank you.
That's a pretty neat idea, the exact kind of "why didn't I think of that?" idea.
this is a great idea, might i recommend a small mirror over the front facing camera? you could do a three way call but you weary of audio, if you don't mute you'll get a feedback loop....Zoom....