How to Make your Mazda RX8 Shoot Flames
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2018
- Ever wonder how to shoot huge fireballs out of your car? A Mazda RX8 does this VERY well, so here is some tips to shoot balls of fire and flames from your exhaust pipes and create some great backfire noise. Enjoy!
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50 gallons of fuels was used to make this film.. worth every drop
Leangersh Spikyz lmao
OMG
Smile per gallon
Did this with my rx8 with no cats no mufflers now there’s cameras in my local carpark
People think there was a drive by🤣
I just found this channel and I’m already in love with the car 🤟🏻🔥
My rx8 shoots flames 😎 can’t wait to begin my build
How to get kicked out of every car meet you go to in under 4 minutes
no, bring a mustang.
mustangs can be there... they just need kept 100yards away from all crowds
What kind of car meet u do to it's no fun without reving
What? Is it a baby boomer car meet?
@@bulletclub4life no, a Honda
Hey man, where are you located? I'd love to shoot some videos with you. I've got a 1985 FB that I 13b swapped in Chicago!
Sounds cool! Let me know if you are ever around Philly and wanna make a video. I'd be happy to collab!
hey! i live in the Philly area and am looking at an rx8
Your in Chicago?? I'm located off in Elgin Illinois let's colab
Tl:dr
First of all the rotary engine is actually closer to a 4 stroke engine than a 2 stroke engine.
In a 2t the power / intake cycles are combined and so are the exhaust / compression cycles. In a rotary each action is separated intake / compression / combustion / exhaust. Just because it's combusting on one face of the rotor and doing other actions on the other faces doesn't mean it's a two stoke. Technically a V6 is going through the exact same motions at any given time as a rotary. They're both drawing air in, venting gas and burning what's left at the exact same time.
Secondly any car can throw flames. Removing the cat is the most effective way to do so, and engines never completely burn away all of the air fuel mixture, the catalytic converter changed the chemical make up of the exhaust gases so you're not dumping so many unburdened hydrocarbons an carbon monoxide. Without a cat you will shoot flames regardless of whether or not you have a 3" cat back exhaust, all you might be able to do is make it louder.
Thirdly the real reason rotary engines are great at shooting flames is because they are so thermally inefficient compared to conventional engines. Rotarys dump so much fuel to keep it cooler and the exhaust port timing is static unlike your conventional engine that has variable cam timing. This is why the rotary is most efficient and power at a very specific rpm range, it's all down to port timing. Not only that but the rotary only has about half the time to burn off the air fuel mixture at any given rpm compared to the 4 stroke engine. Creating a build up of unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust manifold, hence why rotarys are known for high exhaust temps and melting cats. Also I've found that revving up and letting off at 3500rpm creates a really loud pop because at 3500rpm the second fuel injector starts up and momentarily makes the mixture rich, letting off at the right time while under load will make your exhaust sound like a gun shot. You get the same effect when the ssv opens at 7500rpm and you let off immediately afterwards. Revving up and down between 8 / 9k will fill the exhaust with hydrocarbons eventually but you create a lot of unnecessary heat and wear in the process.
I understand that everyone is entitled to enjoy their car anyway they like and you might doing for educational purposes. But please try to understand what you are driving and that engines do not like relining while stationary. In my personal opinion a car looks infinitely cooler when they back fire while they're in motion.
Fourthly premix will not make the RX8 more prone to backfire, synthetic 2t oil is designed to burn off easily and turn into a non-flammable vapour. It does create a better seal for the apexes help to reduce carbon though so definitely keep using it, oh and it smells fantastic when it burns too.
Happy Brapping and enjoy your RX8.
Just one question, not an argument but, a 2 stroke pulls in air, combust it and shoot it out at 2 revolustions. A rotary pulls in air, combust it, and send ut out in just one revolutions. That sounds alot more like a 2 stroke than a 4 stroke that has to draw in air in one revolusjon, comust it 2-3, send it out 4. Dont hate on me if im wrong or my spelling. Cheers
@@adrianaustegard8928 actually a 2 stroke does everything in only one revolution. There is the down stroke and then the up stroke, that is one complete revolution of the crank shaft.
Technically speaking a rotary will do a full combustion cycle on 1 face of each rotor in one revolution of the E-shaft too. But the reason I say it is closer to a 4 stroke engine is because the ports never overlap like a 2 stroke, and the other stages of the combustion cycle are all separated as well. One rotor face can only do one of these jobs at any given time. Intake, compression, combustion, exhaust. Whereas a two stroke piston is always doing 2 jobs at one time. Intake & combustion. Exhaust & compression.
I think where people get confused is when they compare a rotary to a 2 cylinder engine, when you should look at each face as a cylinder and compare it to a v6. Because just like a rotary which any given time will have two faces drawing in air, two pushing out exhaust, and depending on the position of each rotor, one will be combusting and the other will be compressing. The rotors are offset by 60 degrees.
But it's the exact same story for a v6 piston engine, each piston is at a different stage of the combustion cycle. The engine is drawing in air the same time it is compressing on another cylinder, and on another it is igniting and on another it is exhausting etc etc.
No one cares to listen to anyone who starts off a sentence with "first off" talk to people not at them
great video good info
The legendary rotory engine
Now I know why rx8 have a low mpg
i done this the first day i got my aftermarket catback, not only it got flames out the back but the tips caught fire and had to be put out
Lucky
You lucky awsome person you
very cool
What I've noticed in mine is that I have to be not as aggressive w/ the accel pedal to shoot flames. The way you did it in this vid is a bit too aggressive. It has to be a bit smoother, at least in my case. Also, the closer you are to 9k, the results don't seem as promising. I've shot the biggest flames at around 7-8k. Maybe that's my ECU map throwing a lot of fuel in around that range, idk. And in my case, I don't shoot nice flames. It's usually cannonballs that make you deaf and balls of fire. Try my technique, let me know if u get better results: when you're warm and ready to fire flame-age, bounce the needle between 6 and 8k, but don't be as aggressive as you were in this video. Let it be a smooth up and down of the needle.
I get the same thing like big fire ball at 6k-7k
Between 5000-6000 rpm in 3rd gear is the best give it a good bit of gas when your sitting at about 5200 rpm and you shoot some 2-3 footers 😂 at least for me I have a BHR Catless midpipe and Greddy cat back
@@Baaang360 I rev to about 5-6 k rp. And bounce it and it kinda works stock, im doing a cat and muffler delete to make it better but idk if it'd be too loud
nah this happens in a lot of cars
7k to 6k rpms is the sweet spot in a lot of cars
@@Rotarygng same here although can’t complain since at least I’m getting something
What exhaust parts did you use on your rx8?
I have a 2009 R3 that the cat just got so hot it crumbled and blew out of my exhaust. Do you know if it will shoot flames like a straight pipe?
those are some nice rims, which enkeis are those?
A straight pipe will work right
Greddy Exhaust and BHR Long Tube Headers, Done.
What side skirts, lip and wing is that?
My rx8 looks just like this except with a stock spoiler and oem skirt flares
I have a gutted cat. Resonator and a duel straight pipe back. No flames
I just know that the more u rev the more it shoots flames
What state are you guys from?
Maybe you would see a better flame if you did this at night? Just a suggestion
Hood exit or straight pipe is better
You could also get the ecu to chuck more fuel out of the exhaust but you’ll probably go down to about 1 mile per gallon in an rx8
I’m already at 7
what exhaust is that?
What kind of vape juice do I fill it with?
Miss my rx8
ive got an rx8 with stock exhaust system. if i warm it up and bounce the revs at around 4500-5500 there will be flames. not like with an aftermarket, decat exhaust but it still shoots flames. if anyone else tries this out. let me know if it worked for you as well
Look, im putting straight pipes on mine and deleting the cat, just remind me and I'll let you know
@@Rotarygng reminder
@@evanharley4180 ended up doing a muffler delete, spits flames, loud as hell, its loads more fun
Yeah, not to piss on your fire (pun intended) but you only need the midpipe. I have a stock backbox and i hands down guarantee you my bangs are louder than an aftermarket pipe.
Do u have any type of engine mode that cause you to shoot flames or it’s just a stock engine?
Its stock, and even without the decat it does nice bangs :) but not so loud
My RX8 had oem exhaust and I can make it shoot flames.
Music to my ears 1:46
Will a cat delete and mazda speed exhaust work to shoot flames?
Cat is gone, so yeah - it should. If it isn't well, then its probably a good thing tbh. That way you don't have people flashing their lights at you when they're behind you for no reason other than to tell you that "dude there's fire coming out the back of your car".
Whare is tha flame
To get flames from your RX8, first rev the nuts off it, destroy the motor and then it will flame no problem.
Wankel engines love to redline. 😂
Hahaha that’s hilarious 👌🏻
The proper way is to drive for like 20-30 minutes then rev up to 4k hold for a sec then rev to 8k and you'll get good flames.
Mazda actually recommends to high rev this particular rotory engine . Cleans out unburned build up .
@@joshcab968 That's all of their Wankel engines
Can you tell me what premix you use pls.
Can’t tell what he’s using, but Idemitsu makes a premix specifically for rotaries.
Stock one can make flame too.
Fr?
tututututu ;D
The RX7/8 runs rich and leaves extra gas in the exhaust. And the exhaust is hot and ignites the extra gas this making a flame
I called the mazda dealership here in Louisville cause I just bought a 2005 rx8 and I wasnt sure whether to premix or not. The mechanic at the dealership said not to premix, that it didn't need the extra oil in the gas tank. Regardless of the year or anything. Why did he say not to if ur saying to do it
The first generation of the Rx8 did not have three oil injectors like the ones from 2009-2012. Most of the problems you hear from the RX8 rely in the first generation. There is only two in each housing and those two oil injectors are at an angle to get the sides of the apex seals. Sometimes the oil doesn't do a good enough job with the apex seals and that's why they end up breaking is due to lack of lubrication. Its recommended to premix on the first gen due to a lack of oil injectors. Also, Mechanics at dealerships aren't very trustworthy.. let alone mechanics at all if they're a big corporation. That's the other thing too is that the guy probably was thinking it was just a standard piston engine, you'd be surprised on how many people know about the Rx8, let alone the rotary engine. Premixing is recommended on the first gen, I own a 40th Anniversary edition, and I've had it for about 6 months and even with a small oil leak, it kicks ass. You will have to check oil levels every other weekend, It is a mechanics car. JASO certified is what I've heard about premixing, I've been using the Lucas stuff because its just easier to get. The Idemistu is probably a lot better but there is also very little power gain if any with premixing... its just acting like an extra heat shield. There's a whole lot more stuff for maintenance too, Changing oil every 3k miles or less is recommended, maximum of 4-6. Keeping up with plugs and the cooling. The ignition system and the cooling system is probably one of the most important things for the rotary engine to keep it going.. They produce a ton of heat. Those plugs are also very hot and foul over time. A ton of information regarding about this car is over at RX8Club, you should check them out.
Do you know why my car shakes in idle ?
You probably just have a low idle. Check your intake system for restrictions.
What about Straight Piping your Rx-8 ???
no back pressure. dont do it, it can hurt the engine
2:05 RIP
what type of aditive fuel do u add
No need for fuel additives: the premix does that for you and so does your engine oil - depending on what you use (recommended 10w30 by Idemitsu) ; and you have to use no lesser than 93 octane.
@ 1:19 Did he just pour oil into his gas tank? wtf
Anyway I'm here because my G35 backfires and I'm trying to stop it. Yes i have test pipe and exhaust.
It's called pre-mixing and it's something you do with every fill of your gas tank (2 cycle oil). It's recommended for rotaries, not for piston engines.
Yeah this actually keeps the rotory engine reliable .
@American Chupacabra reliability lies in the owner's care of the engine.
Apex seals were harmed in the making of this video 😢
It shoots flame on stock exhaust
Or weld a bung and screw a spark plug into the exhaust
No that's cringe
Anne auto?
What liquid u add in gasoline tank??
He added oil . It's called pre-mixing and you need to do it if you own a rotary !
For even larger flames, blow up the motor and watch it light up 😇
If it's an rx8 just drive it. It'll start shooting flames eventually 😂
How is your apex holding
Vag group he wont say because he knows these cars are shit.
It's not holding.
David B what car do you drive?
WhenTitansSpeak I have 5 cars I daily a new Camaro.
David B have you driven an Rx-8? Ever owned one? Ever put in the effort to keep up with one?
I just bought an rx8 3 days ago!!!( woot woot ) and the only issues is that the o2 censor had failed... so now this gives me a good reason to get a good exhaust.. im new to this so what will I need... a mid pipe and a catback?
I also know its explained in the video but links would help x.x
The exhaust modification is optional, but if you do track racing, its probably a good idea. (Please note it may not be legal)
The O2 sensor as I'm sure you figured out (and replaced by now) is very cheap and not a big deal (pretty much like changing spark plugs), so you might have already modded your car. If you haven't, I don't think its a huge improvement chopping the catalytic converter out (does a lot of pollution as is, which is why rotaries are illegal to make). You definitely won't pass emissions if they test. That being said, the rotary likes to spit fire and run hot exhaust (inefficiency), so apparently you can burn through a cat converter (still mind blowing nothing else melts first, so I would need to see that myself to believe it). I'm not sure what the power difference is (which is the main reason people remove cat converters), but its optional. Mine has a few things modded, but I bought it used, so I don't know how they are stock (I should test drive sometime at a dealership, but I haven't).
Since you haven't had it long, this list might help you out. Typical recommendations:
pre-mix 2 cycle oil when you are filling up with gasoline
many people use heavier oil than the factory recommends (Mazda politics changed every car to a super thin oil, and this is often blamed as the early death from wear of rotaries, the RX7 did use thicker oil). Oil type is highly debated.
Change the oil more often (I did the math, this car costs me $1k more per year with low miles than my other car, so an extra $30 a year on oil changes isn't going to kill me, not doing it might kill the engine though), so 3k miles is what I do, you might go a little higher but its up to you. Oil type is highly debated.
Red-line them!!!! People have had these die in 20k miles from driving them like a grandma, please do not kill your rotary from loneliness.
So its optional on the exhaust, but if you do track racing, its probably a good idea.
I had a go when I gutted my cat with the toyo box Think I did it too slow but did work hit the beep then let go till it’s at 7000rpm then do it again
But mine stopped me reving it I had to wait a minute till it went back to normal so I drove home
I want to buy this car but is it worth it? I plan to take care of it
I know I’m late, but if you take care of them (which doesn’t require as much work as people say) they’re reliable and fun engines
To take care of the engine, make sure to red-line it 9 to 10k every other drive at least. Normally this would be a terrible thing to do in a piston engine, but these are not piston engines, and they need to be raced often to keep carbon from building up. My car has 88k miles, second engine replaced at just 50k miles because the original owner didn't follow the rotary principle of "drive it like you stole it" attitude.
Typical recommendations:
pre-mix 2 cycle oil when you are filling up with gasoline
many people use heavier oil than the factory recommends (Mazda politics changed every car to a super thin oil, and this is often blamed as the early death from wear of rotaries, the RX7 did use thicker oil)
Change the oil more often (I did the math, this car costs me $1k more per year with low miles than my other car, so an extra $30 a year on oil changes isn't going to kill me, not doing it might kill the engine though), so 3k miles is what I do, you might go a little higher but its up to you. Oil type is highly debated.
Red-line them!!!! People have had these die in 20k miles from driving them like a grandma, please do not kill your rotary from loneliness.
Unfortunately the Apex seals wear to the point of very low compression. The vehicle will exhibit the following symptoms.
1) Will not idle after engine warms up.
2) Hard start or no start after engine warms up.
3) Loss of horsepower.
4) Engine has difficulty reaching higher rpms or redline.
The rest of the RX8 is amazing, 6-spd manual transmission is a little weak in 2nd gear but manageable. The ride, handling, comfort, design, style, smooth, quick acceleration, stopping power, it's a very special sports car, just be financially ready to operate it, have money set aside for that new engine.
Engine oil in fuel tank??? I think I need to learn more about rotary engine
No, 2 stroke oil, not engine oil... It's called pre-mixing, helps the engine be more lubricated and last longer. It gives some blue smoke, but that's ok...but be precise with the amount you mix, to much can leave deposits in the catalic converter and sparkplug. That's about the easiest way to explain.
@@Got_braaaaap... Thanks
nice vid. but advice for talking:
speak louder, sounds a bit strange when you speak so silent.
you can perfectly hear the difference at the end of the video.
your voice gets more clear. still deep, but not that "wet bubbely"
no idea why I even wrote about it.
just bored hehe
My rx8 backfires the best if I let it idle and spool the engine up to about 8,000 really fast
Actually rotory is considered 4 stroke
Does this work on rx7 fds?
Should, its similar engine design (might even be more impressive, not really sure)
It will yes but it wont last long before the turbos take a shit
Smile per gallon
Next video: Rebuilding my RX-8 engine
what about us 4 port boys;(
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Ok so here’s mine…. ua-cam.com/video/Qi-I_DrAqyc/v-deo.html
Decat and aftermarket cat-back exhaust. It shot decent flames before I had the map done anyway.
awaiting these comments
"i done this and my car overheated....."
🤦♂️
I done this because my car overheated
Lol
I bounce mine off 7k rpm and get decent flames. Vids on my channel go check it out
How do I make it get 20 mpg? Lol
J Lo 2jz swap it
You don't.
Premix
put a hybrid in it
I almost got 20 mpg. I was in 6th gear at 65 mph drafting a Semi burning premium, but I only made 19.2 mpg (trip of 200 miles drafting)... Close though!
My 30 year old Mercedes made 40+ MPG driving like mad on the highway, or ridiculously high if you drafted, but it was a turbo-diesel.
The RX makes single digit in town for me (half highway/half town I get 13 to 16 mpg). Its the SMILES per gallon that count!
If its high MPG vs high fun, I'll take a bicycle before a boring car (I actually do enjoy cycling, raced in a fair chunk of races last year. Just collegiate level having fun)
Is this possible with an automatic?
Matthew Janocik yuh
Yes, no reason for it NOT to do that if you follow the basics.
Snoopy25 why would not, what if there is no fire leaking to the exhaust...
I said that there is no reason that it wouldn't work if the procedure is followed and proper hardware is installed...
Wish I could upload picture comments that way I could show you just how big of a flame you can get even being an auto
I predict low compression in your future.
Then engine isnt a 2 stroke its a 4 stroke
well it's a rotary so it is unique all together, but it is similar to a 2 stroke because the intake occurs during compression
or just watch the turkish Rx8 videos
Wankel engine is a 4 stroke
How, please explain
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o Lemurs
Ok
Says the person with a profile pic just like his mommas fanny♐😂😂
How to destroy your car in just 3 minutes!
That's a great way to shorten the life of a rotory.
more like an all stroke, because all 4 strokes of a 4-stroke happen all the time. needs to be an actual technical term for it instead of calling it strokes
Rotation? That's a better word...
ah yes. the reason we china restaurant owner kicked us from his parkinglot
Just get a flamethrower kit lol so not worth it what you're doing
4th like
My dude bouncing off the rev limiter is never a good thing to do because u risk blowing your engine that why there called a REV --LIMITER but nice I see u some what know what you doing though
Anthony Charles Its a rotory m8, it needs to rev
You have no idea about the rotary my dude
Yeah man be careful you’ll or you’ll fire a piston through your hood!!
To take care of the engine, make sure to red-line it 9 to 10k every other drive at least. Normally this would be a terrible thing to do in a piston engine, but these are not piston engines, and they need to be raced often to keep carbon from building up. My car has 88k miles, second engine replaced at just 50k miles because the original owner didn't follow the rotary principle of "drive it like you stole it" attitude.
LOL
This is so cringe
Shooting flames like that will burn the valves.
maybe in a piston engine
valves?
There are no valves in a rotory engine
Boi 😂
What valves
This is a sure fire way to kill your car quicker
Mazda literally advises you to redline these engines to keep carbon from building up
@@iamthagreatone4041 trust me i have one and they dont like popping and banging it over fuels them and on start up it really dose some damage and no mazda dont say redline them they actually state they need to go to atleast 6k to open the carbon release valve and thats far from the cars full rev limit
@@jameshoath83 oh apologies, you have one, so I should _definitely_ trust you
@@iamthagreatone4041 wether you trust me or not doesn't change the fact that I'm right though, I know my way around an rx8 fairly well and do all the maintenance on mine and its running sweet unlike guys I've known over the years who drive their's like in this video usually end up having to do an early rebuild
@@jameshoath83 but you’re not right
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Car sucks just breaking apex seals always