I love it when you do subtle trolling in your videos, like the way you trolled Dak Prescott and company at the very end here. The 1987 draft was the last time I didn't follow the NFL until about 2018, so I don't remember this particular situation. I actually started watching football closely in 1987 when the season began. GREAT storytelling!
I was a Fresno State student when Baker played there. I watched him play every home game. (I had student season tickets while I was at Fresno State.) He was a BEAST. He was a threat to score every time the ball was in his hands. You could see the fear in the eyes of the opposing defense when Baker had the ball in his hands. STILL amazes me that in this pass-happy era, only two WR's since Baker have averaged 29+ yards per reception and him being one of five WR's in the entire history of the NCAA to average over 29 yards a reception in a season. (As an aside, in 1985, Fresno State went 11-0-1, the tie coming vs. Hawaii in a non-conference game at the time. They received one first-place vote in the final UPI poll, that coming from then-OU coach Barry Switzer, who stated, "Fresno State finished undefeated. They deserve a first-place vote." Switzer couldn't vote for his school, and he had a vote in the poll, hence his vote for Fresno State. They were one of two schools to finish unbeaten, OU being the other.)
K-Mart was a very good WR, and an outstanding special teamer. Michael Irvin is on the record that K-Mart REALLY helped him learn to be an NFL caliber WR. One of my favorite Cowboy players of the time.
Yeah, Pelluer was a tease; some talent but made all kinds of mistakes (not just turnovers). A major downgrade from Danny White, and Cowboys fans were wishing for a football film titled, "Steve Pelluer's Day Off". Real rollercoaster time, and that was on a GOOD day.
These types of stories always amaze me. They really do. Sometimes you just shake your head and wonder how could this really have happened. Unreal. As always, just another fantastic video!
I like your positivity. You talked about him having a good career. He had less than 150 catches, just over 2000 yards, and 21 TDs and you said he had a good career. I like that. These days, people make it seem like if a player isn't All-Pro or a HOFer, then he didn't do squat in his career.
Did Sherrard break his leg before or after the draft? I just recall him breaking his leg during an off season after he was expected to be great in the future.. I do not recall him on the field after that although I know he was still in the league.
You mentioned that the Cowboys took Ron Francis in this draft. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Cowboys were close to drafting his brother James three years later. They instead watched him get drafted by the Bengals, so they had to settle on taking someone else with their first pick.
Baker's college QB, Kevin Sweeney, would initially lead the Cowboys replacements. After leading them to a convincing win over the Jets, Danny White would return. I can still see the pic of the Texas Stadium banner in the USA Today, "White's a weenie, we want Sweeney."
In the 1991 draft, Dallas and Detroit agreed on a trade of draft picks. But, didn't have time to report it to the NFL. So Dallas took Kelvin Pritchett with their 1st round pick, and then traded his rights for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 1991. So, Dallas dropped 20 spots and got a 3rd and 4th. For this video, it was more Dan Reeves being a jerk to his former HC and team!! He could have picked Baker and then traded his rights for the other picks.
I can see Chris Grier doing something like this. He already screwed himself by giving the Eagles the Dolphins first round pick this year instead of the 49ers, which turned out to be 15 spots lower. Oof.
As soon as I heard Kelvin Martin, I immediately thought about the final touchdown in the 1992 NFC Championship Game and thought "Dallas got him under THOSE circumstances?!" This Cowboys fan blatantly says screw doing this over!
something doesn't make sense about this story. Wouldn't the DEN/DAL trade still been official, albeit with Dallas being on the clock since DEN couldn't submit the pick for them? It seems from the evidence that DAL just never called to make the trade official. How can it be that Dallas didn't have the pick, but the issue was that the trade went thru but Dallas didn't make the pick, yet it still belonged to Denver?
Live NFL TRIVIA EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT ON TWITCH!!!! Test YOUR football KNOWLEDGE and win CASH PRIZES. Anyway the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Giants are BOTH way below a 39.6. It is DRAFT moves like THIS that put them there. They BOTH would be WAY BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!
Stephen “Touchdown Maker” Baker! Remember him on the Giants Super Bowl Team. Didn’t he get another mention by JaguarGator9 (aka poor Jags fan) for having a very low catch rate per target if like 28% in 1992? Unfair mention. Still love the guy. Hey played with greats like LT & OJ Anderson.
That’s common in the NBA because the draft is before the official start of the league year, so no trades can actually go through until a few days after the draft
This may have been due to the Ted Stepien Rule, which prohibits teams from trading first-round picks in back-to-back years. (It's fine, for some reason, once the pick is made.)
You mentioned Mike Renfro but not thr most infamous non-catch in NFL history that he made with the Oilers. But hey, as a Steelers fan I'm not complaining about that non-catch. lol
I don't know about the Colts, but I do know the Buccaneers took Dan Sileo in the sup draft with that pick. I looked at Bucpower and it was some dude named Don Graham for the Buccaneers.
This was karma for Dallas! The year earlier they jumped ahead and took Mike Sherrard after the Giants expressed big interest in him. He was on everyone's boards to go to NY.... Dallas literally stole him by trading up. Eventually, he'd play for the Giants after some time with both Dallas and San Francisco.
@@F40PH-2CAT According to PFR that's only for the final year of his career though, we don't know how he was the previous five seasons. He did average one TD per 7 receptions though, which isn't too bad. The Parcells-era Giants were always awful at WR.
I’ll never understand how the split back “pro” set formation dominated the league for so many years I understand it was a different game back then more run heavy of course but for running the ball the I form is a completely better formation the split back completely negates the full back as a lead block unless u wanna completely telegraph the play pre snap dumbest football formation in history in my opinion
The 86 Cowboys was 6-2 at the half way point going with the #1 offense, headed into Giants Stadium.... that game White breaks his wrist... and was one of the worse offiated games you will ever see... The Boys lost and the following week to the Raiders in which both games let get away... it was downhill from there winning only 1 of the last 5 games
Those were the sleepy days of the sad last years of the landry and co. era. And that is stephen baker the touchdown maker who ends in the division with g men thanks to boys blunder. too funny.
I’m surprised that the Dallas Cowboys did this bc they’ve done so many drafts since 1960 and have drafted a lot of talented players throughout their history and yet they make a mistake like this which you could say ultimately symbolized their downfall in the late 80’s. If it was the New York Jets who made this mistake their fan base would’ve murdered them but then again it probably would’ve been for the best if the Jets didn’t pick anybody because they’re pretty terrible at evaluating talent and I’m looking at Richard Todd, Kyle “not Tom” Brady, and Mark Sanchez.
Frenchy Bordagaray reference FTW. An extra dose of 40s baseball.
Danny Noonan from Caddyshack? I always wondered what he got up to after golf didn't work out. I was hoping he didn't end up at the lumbermill.
The world needs ditch diggers too
As a lifelong Fresno State fan and graduate whose first star player I followed was "The Touchdown Maker" Stephen Baker, interesting.
I love it when you do subtle trolling in your videos, like the way you trolled Dak Prescott and company at the very end here.
The 1987 draft was the last time I didn't follow the NFL until about 2018, so I don't remember this particular situation. I actually started watching football closely in 1987 when the season began.
GREAT storytelling!
I was a Fresno State student when Baker played there. I watched him play every home game. (I had student season tickets while I was at Fresno State.) He was a BEAST. He was a threat to score every time the ball was in his hands. You could see the fear in the eyes of the opposing defense when Baker had the ball in his hands. STILL amazes me that in this pass-happy era, only two WR's since Baker have averaged 29+ yards per reception and him being one of five WR's in the entire history of the NCAA to average over 29 yards a reception in a season. (As an aside, in 1985, Fresno State went 11-0-1, the tie coming vs. Hawaii in a non-conference game at the time. They received one first-place vote in the final UPI poll, that coming from then-OU coach Barry Switzer, who stated, "Fresno State finished undefeated. They deserve a first-place vote." Switzer couldn't vote for his school, and he had a vote in the poll, hence his vote for Fresno State. They were one of two schools to finish unbeaten, OU being the other.)
K-Mart was a very good WR, and an outstanding special teamer. Michael Irvin is on the record that K-Mart REALLY helped him learn to be an NFL caliber WR. One of my favorite Cowboy players of the time.
WR wasn't the Cowboys biggest problem, QB Steve Pelluer was the big problem
Yeah, Pelluer was a tease; some talent but made all kinds of mistakes (not just turnovers). A major downgrade from Danny White, and Cowboys fans were wishing for a football film titled, "Steve Pelluer's Day Off". Real rollercoaster time, and that was on a GOOD day.
Excellent video! I clearly remember Baker but I never knew the backstory behind it
These types of stories always amaze me. They really do. Sometimes you just shake your head and wonder how could this really have happened. Unreal. As always, just another fantastic video!
And the Seinfeld "Reservation" clip was perfect :)
The fact that Baker went to the Giants was brutal.
Tampa jumps ahead of Denver and picks LB Don Graham, leaving Brooks for Denver. It figures they would be the team to screw up.
I can't believe how well things worked out for all 3 clubs, but that's an outlier.
I like your positivity. You talked about him having a good career. He had less than 150 catches, just over 2000 yards, and 21 TDs and you said he had a good career. I like that. These days, people make it seem like if a player isn't All-Pro or a HOFer, then he didn't do squat in his career.
I remember Sweeney, that guy had a golden arm. I think he opted to play baseball. can't recall.
That final jab though....
Not in this video but interesting: The Cowboys ended up taking Baker's college QB in the very same draft.
So that’s how Stephen Baker the Touchdown Maker ended up in the Big Apple?
Yup. Ironically Mike Sherrard also became a Giant and had a great year in 1993 before injuries derailed his career.
@@F40PH-2CAT, didn’t Sherrard end up becoming an actor?
no fan should ever go through: going through adversity... Laughs in Browns fan
I love you videos as a suggestion look into the Browns, Colts 2013 trade the ultimate no one wins situation.
5:06 I've never seen player's last names be highlighted in a white block like that, I like it 😊
Baker was such a great play action deep threat on those ground and pound NY Giants teams.
I think this is a nice story since it worked out for every team involved; in general life that's rare, but also very special.
Mike sherrard was later traded to Sanfrancisco where he had a solid career but not a great career as was projected.
Did Sherrard break his leg before or after the draft? I just recall him breaking his leg during an off season after he was expected to be great in the future.. I do not recall him on the field after that although I know he was still in the league.
He broke his leg twice. Once after his first year, again during rehab.
you did another video on a bad draft move by the cowboys during this time. this is 1 reason why the cowboys had bad years
You mentioned that the Cowboys took Ron Francis in this draft. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Cowboys were close to drafting his brother James three years later. They instead watched him get drafted by the Bengals, so they had to settle on taking someone else with their first pick.
And that pick was Emmitt Smith!
@@DC9727737757 ...and the rest is history.
I love how a video about a Cowboys trade with the Broncos gone bad has multiple clips of Cowboys passes getting picked off by the Broncos 😊
Loved your parting shot for them cowboys.
Baker's college QB, Kevin Sweeney, would initially lead the Cowboys replacements. After leading them to a convincing win over the Jets, Danny White would return. I can still see the pic of the Texas Stadium banner in the USA Today, "White's a weenie, we want Sweeney."
It was all a ploy by Dallas to sabotage Denver’s draft, just Landry messing with a former player.
In the 1991 draft, Dallas and Detroit agreed on a trade of draft picks. But, didn't have time to report it to the NFL. So Dallas took Kelvin Pritchett with their 1st round pick, and then traded his rights for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 1991. So, Dallas dropped 20 spots and got a 3rd and 4th.
For this video, it was more Dan Reeves being a jerk to his former HC and team!! He could have picked Baker and then traded his rights for the other picks.
The fact that the Cowboys had bad quarterbacks in 1987 wasn’t a factor?
IF Mike Sherrard didn't have such brittle bones he would have been one hell of a receiver.
"... or not..." 👍👍😂😂
Cowboy fans actually blaming the officials for this was even more hilarious 🤣
That 20-19 final vs. Phoenix was the most memorable game the Giants would win with that score the entire season.
As soon as I heard the name, my mind immediately went to Tecmo Super Bowl and Stephen Baker, the Touchdown Maker 🤣🤣
a frenchy bordagaray mention! he had a solid, if unspectacular decade-long career in major league baseball, mostly with the brooklyn dodgers
I can see Chris Grier doing something like this. He already screwed himself by giving the Eagles the Dolphins first round pick this year instead of the 49ers, which turned out to be 15 spots lower. Oof.
1964 was the year after the Kennedy assassination sorrow was still hanging in the air in Dallas.
4:41 they drafted the kid from Caddyshack? lol
Hard to believe the Cowboys were draft stupid even before Jerry Jones bought the team
Stephen Baker The Touchdown Maker!!
I am amazed that there hasn't been an owners meeting to fix some of this stuff
It's not Ste--ven... He was Ste--Fan.
As soon as I heard Kelvin Martin, I immediately thought about the final touchdown in the 1992 NFC Championship Game and thought "Dallas got him under THOSE circumstances?!" This Cowboys fan blatantly says screw doing this over!
something doesn't make sense about this story. Wouldn't the DEN/DAL trade still been official, albeit with Dallas being on the clock since DEN couldn't submit the pick for them? It seems from the evidence that DAL just never called to make the trade official. How can it be that Dallas didn't have the pick, but the issue was that the trade went thru but Dallas didn't make the pick, yet it still belonged to Denver?
Live NFL TRIVIA EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT ON TWITCH!!!! Test YOUR football KNOWLEDGE and win CASH PRIZES. Anyway the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Giants are BOTH way below a 39.6. It is DRAFT moves like THIS that put them there. They BOTH would be WAY BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!
Stephen “Touchdown Maker” Baker! Remember him on the Giants Super Bowl Team. Didn’t he get another mention by JaguarGator9 (aka poor Jags fan) for having a very low catch rate per target if like 28% in 1992? Unfair mention. Still love the guy. Hey played with greats like LT & OJ Anderson.
Stephen Baker The Touchdown Maker
That’s odd. In last year’s NBA Draft, the Rockets made a trade with the Thunder, yet asked them to make the pick for them.
That’s common in the NBA because the draft is before the official start of the league year, so no trades can actually go through until a few days after the draft
This may have been due to the Ted Stepien Rule, which prohibits teams from trading first-round picks in back-to-back years. (It's fine, for some reason, once the pick is made.)
'With that'.
how do you find these stories?
#16 out there's looking like garoppolo.
Amazing that this involved the Touchdown Maker..now we know how the Giants got him.
You mentioned Mike Renfro but not thr most infamous non-catch in NFL history that he made with the Oilers. But hey, as a Steelers fan I'm not complaining about that non-catch. lol
Sometimes you stumble your way into success.
They never should have changed the name of the PCAA to the Big West.
He puts O'Dell Beckham to shame but Jr. Still got a ring God bless him.
FTR, who did the Colts and Buccaneers take when they leapfrogged?
I don't know about the Colts, but I do know the Buccaneers took Dan Sileo in the sup draft with that pick. I looked at Bucpower and it was some dude named Don Graham for the Buccaneers.
Colts took OL Randy Dixon, who had a solid 9-year career.
This was karma for Dallas!
The year earlier they jumped ahead and took Mike Sherrard after the Giants expressed big interest in him.
He was on everyone's boards to go to NY.... Dallas literally stole him by trading up.
Eventually, he'd play for the Giants after some time with both Dallas and San Francisco.
Steve is out there throwing hella picks. Terrible.
Ahhhh, the touchdown maker....went to my Giants and did....nothing.
@@matthewdaley746 statistically the worst receiver in the league during his career, literally caught less than 30% of the passes thrown his way.
@@F40PH-2CAT According to PFR that's only for the final year of his career though, we don't know how he was the previous five seasons. He did average one TD per 7 receptions though, which isn't too bad. The Parcells-era Giants were always awful at WR.
SO...we now know that OJG9/8 was in 8th grade in 2011 which would make him...around 25 now if my math is correct.
is that you Mike?
...and the Bills lost to both NYG and Dallas in those Super Bowls mentioned
I’ll never understand how the split back “pro” set formation dominated the league for so many years I understand it was a different game back then more run heavy of course but for running the ball the I form is a completely better formation the split back completely negates the full back as a lead block unless u wanna completely telegraph the play pre snap dumbest football formation in history in my opinion
This all wouldn't have happened had they drafted Qb Albert Bundy from Polk.
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
Stephen baker 'the touchdown maker'.
The 86 Cowboys was 6-2 at the half way point going with the #1 offense, headed into Giants Stadium.... that game White breaks his wrist... and was one of the worse offiated games you will ever see... The Boys lost and the following week to the Raiders in which both games let get away... it was downhill from there winning only 1 of the last 5 games
Wow, you're right! From 6-2 to 7-9, all because White was hurt. His passer rating that season was 30 points higher than Steve Pelluer's 😯
Lawrence Taylor was giving QBs career ending injuries, I know white Returned the next season but he never recovered from that Wrist Injury.
@@johnliberty3647 Carl Banks ended Danny White's season in week 9.
The Phil Posderic game
Those were the sleepy days of the sad last years of the landry and co. era. And that is stephen baker the touchdown maker who ends in the division with g men thanks to boys blunder. too funny.
@@matthewdaley746 sad even landry couldn't see the end coming before it did. tex, gil, the whole bunch of them as well.
@@stevenbauer4799 UH oh...Matthew Daley's comments have disappeared again 😟
@@DolFan316they do for me as well. wtf? I don't know why. I end up leaving empty replies.
@@DolFan316 yeah, me too
Daley where are you? Lol
tip for other viewers .. play at 1.25 speed
Don't give a crap about this guy and his college stats.
Worst trade in history, Minnesota trades their franchise to Dallas for Hershel Walker.
I’m surprised that the Dallas Cowboys did this bc they’ve done so many drafts since 1960 and have drafted a lot of talented players throughout their history and yet they make a mistake like this which you could say ultimately symbolized their downfall in the late 80’s. If it was the New York Jets who made this mistake their fan base would’ve murdered them but then again it probably would’ve been for the best if the Jets didn’t pick anybody because they’re pretty terrible at evaluating talent and I’m looking at Richard Todd, Kyle “not Tom” Brady, and Mark Sanchez.
You're right, it would have been another episode of The Jets Being The Jets, with Joe in Saddle River going OH THE PAIN!
pelluer from the sewer was the problem, not the receivers in 1987 for dallas
brooks SUCKED got killed my NINERS 55-10 ELWAY had lost his 3rd SUPER BOWL.....LOL