In 1986 Platoon was huge hits and fiction about Vietnam were part of the zeitgeist for the next few. So a war comic like the Nam was inevitable, so it's entirely possible Shooter wanted to capitalize on the success of those war movies.
I biffed the release date on Platoon and had it lumped in about 4 years earlier - don't ask me how! I know the country was really starting to process but war books were so few and far between while it might have been inevitable I don't think it was expected to last or be of the caliber that The Nam ended up being. Thanks for the info btw, I still don't know how I was thinking that was super early 80s while working on this but oh well, haha. Thanks for checking this out and taking time to comment btw, means a lot and helps out the channel - plus I always appreciate corrections and additional info!
60:40 -yep, I bought those Golden issues of The ‘Nam magazine as they were released just to admire his art at a larger and black and white format , much like I did with Barry Windsor Smith’s Conan issues reprinted in Conan Saga (complete with new covers and interior sketches.) Another amazing installment, JC. Thank you.
I wish they had chosen or were able to include some of that in one of the Golden Artist's Editions but sadly it was not to be. I think now that Dunbier is on his own he'll be trying some new and different stuff and I'd for sure freak to see this as well as the GI Joe special that they did as a standalone portfolio that no goes for like 200 plus dollars reprinted in a nice AE edition book. And thank YOU btw - means so much you take the time to watch these and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel more than you know.
This whole period in Golden's career was just magic man, he was growing by leaps and bounds and his stuff just explodes off the page. Just wish he had done more stuff...
I wasn’t ready for the ‘Nam being a high schooler at time. I was caught up in X-Men and all things Byrne or Adams, Lee coming into his own at the time. But the amount of detail that Golden would put into his images are so impressive. Scary even. I own digital copies of the ‘Nam now and it is without a doubt an achievement in comics history, despite the comics authority stifling some of the dark and emotional subject matter. Thank you for this amazing deep-dive into a momentous time in comics with the legendarily fussy, combative and obsessive for our benefit Michael Golden.
man it makes me happy to read how you describe Golden's disposition as I think that sums it up well. Yeah he's a curmudgeon and kinda hard to deal with, but a LOT of that is just not putting out dreck and making sure he has time and ample pay as well as creative freedom to allow that - not something you see many in the field demanded and even fewer receive. The Nam is tragically underappreciated, and will likely remain so for reasons totally not its fault. The Zaffino run was mind blowing too and Hama really held the series together well through out most of its run. Though a lot was lot when Golden departed it was fun to revisit the series and get a new perspective on how it came to be for sure. Thanks for checking this out and takign time to leave such a flattering comment btw, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Some of it might have gotten you into trouble to say the least, lmao! I really do want to get a chance to sit down with Golden one day and just ask him about this stuff and clear the air/his name in a lot of regards to be blunt. I think a lot of crap about his is overblown and on the other hand there's stories we're not hearing that have earned him this rep as well. Sad that the Golden communities turned on me and I think they took this all the wrong way like me trying to point fingers or make him look bad - which if you watch this should obviously be clear is not the case. I thought the same thing about Mario Gully when I did the doc and ended up getting to talk to him, and Dave Olbrich as well too now that I think of it... maybe I'll get lucky as Golden deserves the time and shine to explain some of this stuff and offer up his perspective. Not that he would or will, but danged if it wouldn't be nice, haha!
@@JerkComic Got a chance to chat with him at NYCC a couple weeks ago. I blew my chance again! 😆 Instead of hard hitting questions, we ended up talking about his Whisper cover's rarity. Which, I think, disoriented him and he may have given back one of my large bills in change. So essentially I got him to pay for the privilege of signing my stuff.
There's so much good stuff hidden in those books man. It's a shame they don't get a lot of love these days but it's always a treat when you take the time to dig the gems out and dust em off imho. Seriously appreciate you taking the time to check this out and especially leaving a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Sorry I had to take such a long break but the next installment is in the editing bay finally! Super appreciate you taking the time to check these out and especially leaving a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton@
A few years ago I scored a long box of old 60's War comics.. mainly DC & Charlton titles like G.I. Combat, Fightin' Army, Battlefield Action, Our Fighting Forces, Army War Heroes, D-Day, Army Attack,.. etc.. Of course the character centric books like Sgt. Rock, The Haunted Tank, Nick Fury & His Howling Commandos, I was already a bit more familiar with.. but these more nameless militatary books that once had a significant market share, but I guess started to wane in the 70's.. with The Nam maybe the last big resurgence... There's a lot of art in there that has become a source of inspiration to me. Anyways.. an intresting alley to go down that doesn't get a lotta play. Great Episode. Keep on Truckin' brother.
There's some absolutely stellar work in a lot of those books, but yeah I think by the late 70s they were definitely on their way out for the most part sales wise. GI Joe was a big exception and I don't really remember ANY after The Nam... Thanks for taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Hey brother. Great 3 parter. Looking forward to the Danzig companion piece I've been trying to gather resources to do a definitive 90s valiant unity video. Both lead up, story, fallout and legacy. Your stuff and editing has been a real inspiration. Have a terrific August, man.
Thanks so much - next episode should be out in a few weeks, this year has just ran me into the ground and been horrible dude. I have a ton of stuff left over from my Deathmate episode as far as research goes so if you need anything drop me a line dude. Valiant was such a crap show at a certain point it's crazy to see how quickly they managed to drive everything about Valiant into the ground after Shooter's departure.
To be frank, there was a lot of popular Vietnam themed movies and TV shows at the time in the 80's so it doesn't surprise me that Marvel wanted to do a book series.This book was quite popular when it came out because of the quality.
I can think of a few movies but not television shows, what comes to mind? I totally biffed the release date on Platoon which was basically dead on though, I don't know HOW I was thinking that was early 80s but I was... oh, well! And no doubt it was popular due to its quality, but getting coverage in the New York Times sure didn't hurt, haha! Thanks so much for checking this out and taking time to comment means a lot and helps out the channel a ton.
@@jasonking4146Yeah I was thinking of those shows too and tangentially you could add The Wonder Years as another TV series that jumped on the Vietnam War era vibe, although it focused only on the home front and effects of the war.
@@JerkComicas said, China Beach and tour of duty. To a lesser degree Wonder years, a-team Lots of shows were Vietnam era back then. I always say it felt like I grew up in the 60s and 80s just because tv was skewed that way. Of course I was an army brat who lived on base for a few years. Sgt Rock fit in with that life too. Nam was fresh at the time though.
@@JerkComic Hey JK, yeah, as what other readers can tell you there was this whole 60's/ Vietnam thing going on at the time back in the 80's. Maybe it was the baby boomers thinking back to when they were younger, I don't know.I can almost say the same with the 90's that there was a little bit of a revival with the 70's too for older Gen X like myself. I do get a kick out of how Millennials and /Gen Z seem to adore the 80's for awhile because of such shows as Stranger Things. I am looking forward to your next chapter of Golden brother! Keep up the awesome work! Take care!
I had a chance to buy the entire run of the Nam,but,ignored it. But,now I wish i had bought them all,they all were in mint condition,bagged and boarded for $ 1.00 each at Hastings Video.
Great series, there are a lot of ups and downs because of sales problems and weird creative teams at times. Jorge Zaffino's issues as well as Golden's are absolute must owns and still very affordable though for sure! Thanks so much for taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Loving this series! The very first comic I ever bought had a Golden cover and I was addicted to his art from that point on! I hope you’re going to include the story that concerns the subtitle of this series too!🤣
That's awesome! Golden was a real gateway for a lot of people, especially kids in the mid to late 80s and I just feel like he never gets the love and respect that he deserves - plus it's hard as heck to find concrete info about his career out there given his reclusive nature and dislike for interviews, haha. I'm really glad you're enjoying this one and it seems to have gone over like a wet blanket party for a lot of people lmao. I honestly WISH I could avoid talking about the title subject. I wasn't even going to really hit on it originally, but the more I looked the more it became painfully evident that it played an integral role in his career and the way that the public perceives him. The fact I was able to talk to some of the people involved and dig beneath the sensationalist coverage of the time I hope will help soften the blow, but yeah - it's coming.... Thanks for checking this out and especially for taking time to comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
I had my own custom 5th to the 1st folio back in 1986/1987(?). I photocopied all the pages from the magazine chapters and bound them together for a personal edition. I wish I still had it. I thought they were copied from Epic Illustrated or something magazine sized. I don’t remember the Savage Tales versions. Fuzzy memory?
Savage Tales was magazine format so I'm guessing that's where they were from as I don't think Marvel ever really reprinted them anywhere now that I think of it either... Man that's sad. I mean, I know it's not technically The Nam but it would be nice to see that stuff comped in an Epic collection of the Nam where it would sit nicely next to a black and white reprint. I wish I still have my Savage Tales mags but I lost all my magazine sized stuff when my roof collapsed at my last place sadly. This made me wanna track them down again but so many books and so little space, am I right? Thanks as always for checking stuff out my friend - hope things have been well for you!
Nam was great but it was one of those nore prestige titles so it cost a bit. I remember the marvel age that talked about it. Vietnam comic told from the viewpoint of a vet. I also remember when things got messed up and it went downhill. Wish theyd collect the whole series in epic collections.
Yeah the tpbs for The Nam slip in and out of print but I guess it's never been super expensive just a pain to track down 84 issues haha. I really like a lot of The Nam but there's some definite peaks and valleys. I remember seeing Jorge Zaffino in there and just having my mind melted by his work as well and I know that was definitely later on. Thanks so much for checking this out and taking time to leave a comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Another amazing video. thank you. I feel like the comics industry is symbolic of the ironic conundrum of trying to preserve artistic integrity while at the same time marketing, promoting and selling comics on a time-based schedule within the confines of a dodgy and nefarious distribution system whereby the business side has as much respect and gratitude for these "cheap monthly pamphlets" as sales industry professionals would have for flavored kitty litter with an expiration date. Is it not a wonder that so many idiocentric artistic geniuses like Wally Wood, Steve Ditko, Alex Toth and yes...even Michael Golden have slowly been driven insane by the greedy bureaucratic restrictions of the comic book industry. Never allowing these artists the space and time to develop and flourish in this field. As an industry we continue to create these artificial conditions of complacency and cheap gimmicks that keep us within the realms of lowbrow entertainment. (btw. You never went into any detail regarding what happened between the collaboration between Michael Golden and the late Jason Pearson. Will you be revealing that in upcoming videos?) Awesome work, Mr. Jerk🏆
Weird ass timing! Been watching this series as it premieres and literally yesterday I bought Marvel Savage Tales #1 at a flea market. Open it up, Mike golden… that name sounds familiar, holy shit it’s the dude I’ve been hearing about! And then today you literally cover the comic I was reading, I had no idea it was popular but that’s probably why someone held onto it all these years.
Golden is one of those industry faves - a lot of people know ABOUT him but maybe not what he worked on or why he's so famous with other artists, one of the big things I hope to remedy with this piece. It's kind of crazy to think about how big he was when I was young and how little people talk about him today tbh. I'm sure you noticed how amazing his work was, just a shame he never got more of it out there I guess.
Man I had totally forgotten about those! Nice deep cuts. For some reason war books never really got me all excited, but I did love The Nam. When I was trying to piece together how and why it happened I legit didn't think of the wave of war stuff that was taking place at the time and the more I think about it and see people bring stuff up, the more I'm inclined to believe Hama's story about Shooter just telling him one day, "hey do a Vietnam book" and tossing a GI Joe cover for him to repurpose on the desk. Super appreciate you checking this out and taking time to comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a TON!
Given the amount of time that you spent researching and talking about The Nam one can only estimate that you have certain amount of affection for the material in order to spend so much time talking and speculating about it and its' origins. One would have to assume that you would wish to try and get as much of the story correct as you can. Having said that, there's a few details that conflict with the research. There was no gap between the end of Savage Tales (vol.2) and the start of The Nam. Savage Tales #5 featured an ad with the upcoming cover for The Nam #1. The final issue of Savage Tales (#8) featured another ad for The Nam announcing it as a new monthly book and included interior artwork from the second issue of The Nam. The publication date for Savage Tales#8 was December of 1986, the same publication date as The Nam #1, meaning that they came out a few weeks apart. You noted that the story in the comic was told in real time. That was not kismet, coincidence or even good luck it was by design from day 1. Doug Murray constructed the idea (as far as I recall from back then as it having been his idea/concept) from the onset to tell the story of The Nam in real time and have the book ultimately run a total of 84 months/issues to coincide with the length of the Vietnam War. Luckily the book was a success for the various factors that you mentioned and he was able to let his idea come to fruition. I'm afraid that the length of time in this part of Michael Golden's career and his role in some of the events may be a bit more shrouded in mystery and are, again, probably best left up to comic lore and mystery.
So, so many fans in the 90s and early 2000s. While it's true that Golden's less than amicable attitude might have played into his loss of work, as well as his general disinterest in comics at a given point, the fact is fans simply weren't clamoring for Golden like they should have. He never stuck around on a book long enough to really hook a massive mainstream audience and while some of his work in the 80s is highly heralded, there's about 3 people and a goat out there waiting for him to finish Spartan X or read any of that Jurassic Park stuff for anything but his covers. I was kind of personally shocked at the lack of interest people showed when I said Golden was going to be my next big project. Lots of people that lived through The Nam or are in the industry know how important and insanely talented Golden is but sadly, a lot of comic readers, especially these days, just don't.
In 1986 Platoon was huge hits and fiction about Vietnam were part of the zeitgeist for the next few. So a war comic like the Nam was inevitable, so it's entirely possible Shooter wanted to capitalize on the success of those war movies.
I biffed the release date on Platoon and had it lumped in about 4 years earlier - don't ask me how! I know the country was really starting to process but war books were so few and far between while it might have been inevitable I don't think it was expected to last or be of the caliber that The Nam ended up being. Thanks for the info btw, I still don't know how I was thinking that was super early 80s while working on this but oh well, haha. Thanks for checking this out and taking time to comment btw, means a lot and helps out the channel - plus I always appreciate corrections and additional info!
60:40 -yep, I bought those Golden issues of The ‘Nam magazine as they were released just to admire his art at a larger and black and white format , much like I did with Barry Windsor Smith’s Conan issues reprinted in Conan Saga (complete with new covers and interior sketches.) Another amazing installment, JC. Thank you.
I wish they had chosen or were able to include some of that in one of the Golden Artist's Editions but sadly it was not to be. I think now that Dunbier is on his own he'll be trying some new and different stuff and I'd for sure freak to see this as well as the GI Joe special that they did as a standalone portfolio that no goes for like 200 plus dollars reprinted in a nice AE edition book. And thank YOU btw - means so much you take the time to watch these and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel more than you know.
My favourite Comics Artist ever. Excellent episode.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate you taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment! Means a lot and helps out the channel a ton
Some of my favorite covers
This whole period in Golden's career was just magic man, he was growing by leaps and bounds and his stuff just explodes off the page. Just wish he had done more stuff...
I wasn’t ready for the ‘Nam being a high schooler at time. I was caught up in X-Men and all things Byrne or Adams, Lee coming into his own at the time. But the amount of detail that Golden would put into his images are so impressive. Scary even. I own digital copies of the ‘Nam now and it is without a doubt an achievement in comics history, despite the comics authority stifling some of the dark and emotional subject matter. Thank you for this amazing deep-dive into a momentous time in comics with the legendarily fussy, combative and obsessive for our benefit Michael Golden.
man it makes me happy to read how you describe Golden's disposition as I think that sums it up well. Yeah he's a curmudgeon and kinda hard to deal with, but a LOT of that is just not putting out dreck and making sure he has time and ample pay as well as creative freedom to allow that - not something you see many in the field demanded and even fewer receive. The Nam is tragically underappreciated, and will likely remain so for reasons totally not its fault. The Zaffino run was mind blowing too and Hama really held the series together well through out most of its run. Though a lot was lot when Golden departed it was fun to revisit the series and get a new perspective on how it came to be for sure. Thanks for checking this out and takign time to leave such a flattering comment btw, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Another great video! I met Golden years ago. Wish I'd had a fraction of this information back then. Would've had so many questions. 😆
Some of it might have gotten you into trouble to say the least, lmao! I really do want to get a chance to sit down with Golden one day and just ask him about this stuff and clear the air/his name in a lot of regards to be blunt. I think a lot of crap about his is overblown and on the other hand there's stories we're not hearing that have earned him this rep as well. Sad that the Golden communities turned on me and I think they took this all the wrong way like me trying to point fingers or make him look bad - which if you watch this should obviously be clear is not the case. I thought the same thing about Mario Gully when I did the doc and ended up getting to talk to him, and Dave Olbrich as well too now that I think of it... maybe I'll get lucky as Golden deserves the time and shine to explain some of this stuff and offer up his perspective. Not that he would or will, but danged if it wouldn't be nice, haha!
@@JerkComic Got a chance to chat with him at NYCC a couple weeks ago. I blew my chance again! 😆 Instead of hard hitting questions, we ended up talking about his Whisper cover's rarity. Which, I think, disoriented him and he may have given back one of my large bills in change. So essentially I got him to pay for the privilege of signing my stuff.
Awesome research. I was one of those kids that got turned on to this. Now I still go back and get war series from way back and enjoy the art and style
There's so much good stuff hidden in those books man. It's a shame they don't get a lot of love these days but it's always a treat when you take the time to dig the gems out and dust em off imho. Seriously appreciate you taking the time to check this out and especially leaving a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Another solid effort. Can't wait for Part 4. Thanks for the continued diligence with these.
Sorry I had to take such a long break but the next installment is in the editing bay finally! Super appreciate you taking the time to check these out and especially leaving a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton@
A few years ago I scored a long box of old 60's War comics.. mainly DC & Charlton titles like G.I. Combat, Fightin' Army, Battlefield Action, Our Fighting Forces, Army War Heroes, D-Day, Army Attack,.. etc.. Of course the character centric books like Sgt. Rock, The Haunted Tank, Nick Fury & His Howling Commandos, I was already a bit more familiar with.. but these more nameless militatary books that once had a significant market share, but I guess started to wane in the 70's.. with The Nam maybe the last big resurgence... There's a lot of art in there that has become a source of inspiration to me.
Anyways.. an intresting alley to go down that doesn't get a lotta play. Great Episode. Keep on Truckin' brother.
There's some absolutely stellar work in a lot of those books, but yeah I think by the late 70s they were definitely on their way out for the most part sales wise. GI Joe was a big exception and I don't really remember ANY after The Nam... Thanks for taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Hey brother. Great 3 parter. Looking forward to the Danzig companion piece
I've been trying to gather resources to do a definitive 90s valiant unity video. Both lead up, story, fallout and legacy. Your stuff and editing has been a real inspiration. Have a terrific August, man.
Thanks so much - next episode should be out in a few weeks, this year has just ran me into the ground and been horrible dude. I have a ton of stuff left over from my Deathmate episode as far as research goes so if you need anything drop me a line dude. Valiant was such a crap show at a certain point it's crazy to see how quickly they managed to drive everything about Valiant into the ground after Shooter's departure.
To be frank, there was a lot of popular Vietnam themed movies and TV shows at the time in the 80's so it doesn't surprise me that Marvel wanted to do a book series.This book was quite popular when it came out because of the quality.
I can think of a few movies but not television shows, what comes to mind? I totally biffed the release date on Platoon which was basically dead on though, I don't know HOW I was thinking that was early 80s but I was... oh, well!
And no doubt it was popular due to its quality, but getting coverage in the New York Times sure didn't hurt, haha! Thanks so much for checking this out and taking time to comment means a lot and helps out the channel a ton.
@@JerkComic Tour of duty and China Beach are two shows that come to mind. Tour of duty more resembled the Nam' than other shows.
@@jasonking4146Yeah I was thinking of those shows too and tangentially you could add The Wonder Years as another TV series that jumped on the Vietnam War era vibe, although it focused only on the home front and effects of the war.
@@JerkComicas said, China Beach and tour of duty. To a lesser degree Wonder years, a-team Lots of shows were Vietnam era back then. I always say it felt like I grew up in the 60s and 80s just because tv was skewed that way. Of course I was an army brat who lived on base for a few years. Sgt Rock fit in with that life too. Nam was fresh at the time though.
@@JerkComic Hey JK, yeah, as what other readers can tell you there was this whole 60's/ Vietnam thing going on at the time back in the 80's. Maybe it was the baby boomers thinking back to when they were younger, I don't know.I can almost say the same with the 90's that there was a little bit of a revival with the 70's too for older Gen X like myself. I do get a kick out of how Millennials and /Gen Z seem to adore the 80's for awhile because of such shows as Stranger Things. I am looking forward to your next chapter of Golden brother! Keep up the awesome work! Take care!
I had a chance to buy the entire run of the Nam,but,ignored it. But,now I wish i had bought them all,they all were in mint condition,bagged and boarded for $ 1.00 each at Hastings Video.
Great series, there are a lot of ups and downs because of sales problems and weird creative teams at times. Jorge Zaffino's issues as well as Golden's are absolute must owns and still very affordable though for sure! Thanks so much for taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
@@JerkComic You're welcome,amigo,you have a channel with-GREAT-content.Keep-up the-GREAT-work.
@@kerry-j4m can't stop won't stop, haha!
@@JerkComic GOOD,that's the spirit. LOL.
Loving this series! The very first comic I ever bought had a Golden cover and I was addicted to his art from that point on! I hope you’re going to include the story that concerns the subtitle of this series too!🤣
That's awesome! Golden was a real gateway for a lot of people, especially kids in the mid to late 80s and I just feel like he never gets the love and respect that he deserves - plus it's hard as heck to find concrete info about his career out there given his reclusive nature and dislike for interviews, haha. I'm really glad you're enjoying this one and it seems to have gone over like a wet blanket party for a lot of people lmao. I honestly WISH I could avoid talking about the title subject. I wasn't even going to really hit on it originally, but the more I looked the more it became painfully evident that it played an integral role in his career and the way that the public perceives him. The fact I was able to talk to some of the people involved and dig beneath the sensationalist coverage of the time I hope will help soften the blow, but yeah - it's coming....
Thanks for checking this out and especially for taking time to comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Ah man I missed the premiere, passed out after work.
That happens when you work as much as you do, haha! Sorry we missed you but hopefully it was up to snuff, there's always next episode, lmao
I had my own custom 5th to the 1st folio back in 1986/1987(?). I photocopied all the pages from the magazine chapters and bound them together for a personal edition. I wish I still had it. I thought they were copied from Epic Illustrated or something magazine sized. I don’t remember the Savage Tales versions. Fuzzy memory?
Savage Tales was magazine format so I'm guessing that's where they were from as I don't think Marvel ever really reprinted them anywhere now that I think of it either... Man that's sad. I mean, I know it's not technically The Nam but it would be nice to see that stuff comped in an Epic collection of the Nam where it would sit nicely next to a black and white reprint. I wish I still have my Savage Tales mags but I lost all my magazine sized stuff when my roof collapsed at my last place sadly. This made me wanna track them down again but so many books and so little space, am I right? Thanks as always for checking stuff out my friend - hope things have been well for you!
Nam was great but it was one of those nore prestige titles so it cost a bit. I remember the marvel age that talked about it. Vietnam comic told from the viewpoint of a vet. I also remember when things got messed up and it went downhill. Wish theyd collect the whole series in epic collections.
Yeah the tpbs for The Nam slip in and out of print but I guess it's never been super expensive just a pain to track down 84 issues haha. I really like a lot of The Nam but there's some definite peaks and valleys. I remember seeing Jorge Zaffino in there and just having my mind melted by his work as well and I know that was definitely later on.
Thanks so much for checking this out and taking time to leave a comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Do it ISO much enjoy these videos great job
New episode is almost finished, FINALLY
Another amazing video. thank you. I feel like the comics industry is symbolic of the ironic conundrum of trying to preserve artistic integrity while at the same time marketing, promoting and selling comics on a time-based schedule within the confines of a dodgy and nefarious distribution system whereby the business side has as much respect and gratitude for these "cheap monthly pamphlets" as sales industry professionals would have for flavored kitty litter with an expiration date. Is it not a wonder that so many idiocentric artistic geniuses like Wally Wood, Steve Ditko, Alex Toth and yes...even Michael Golden have slowly been driven insane by the greedy bureaucratic restrictions of the comic book industry. Never allowing these artists the space and time to develop and flourish in this field. As an industry we continue to create these artificial conditions of complacency and cheap gimmicks that keep us within the realms of lowbrow entertainment. (btw. You never went into any detail regarding what happened between the collaboration between Michael Golden and the late Jason Pearson. Will you be revealing that in upcoming videos?) Awesome work, Mr. Jerk🏆
Weird ass timing! Been watching this series as it premieres and literally yesterday I bought Marvel Savage Tales #1 at a flea market. Open it up, Mike golden… that name sounds familiar, holy shit it’s the dude I’ve been hearing about! And then today you literally cover the comic I was reading, I had no idea it was popular but that’s probably why someone held onto it all these years.
Golden is one of those industry faves - a lot of people know ABOUT him but maybe not what he worked on or why he's so famous with other artists, one of the big things I hope to remedy with this piece. It's kind of crazy to think about how big he was when I was young and how little people talk about him today tbh. I'm sure you noticed how amazing his work was, just a shame he never got more of it out there I guess.
Can’t wait
Thanks for making it to the premier sir!
This book was a serious book. It was my major religion of the day, along with Weird War tales and G.I. Combat.
Man I had totally forgotten about those! Nice deep cuts. For some reason war books never really got me all excited, but I did love The Nam. When I was trying to piece together how and why it happened I legit didn't think of the wave of war stuff that was taking place at the time and the more I think about it and see people bring stuff up, the more I'm inclined to believe Hama's story about Shooter just telling him one day, "hey do a Vietnam book" and tossing a GI Joe cover for him to repurpose on the desk. Super appreciate you checking this out and taking time to comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a TON!
Given the amount of time that you spent researching and talking about The Nam one can only estimate that you have certain amount of affection for the material in order to spend so much time talking and speculating about it and its' origins. One would have to assume that you would wish to try and get as much of the story correct as you can. Having said that, there's a few details that conflict with the research. There was no gap between the end of Savage Tales (vol.2) and the start of The Nam. Savage Tales #5 featured an ad with the upcoming cover for The Nam #1. The final issue of Savage Tales (#8) featured another ad for The Nam announcing it as a new monthly book and included interior artwork from the second issue of The Nam. The publication date for Savage Tales#8 was December of 1986, the same publication date as The Nam #1, meaning that they came out a few weeks apart. You noted that the story in the comic was told in real time. That was not kismet, coincidence or even good luck it was by design from day 1. Doug Murray constructed the idea (as far as I recall from back then as it having been his idea/concept) from the onset to tell the story of The Nam in real time and have the book ultimately run a total of 84 months/issues to coincide with the length of the Vietnam War. Luckily the book was a success for the various factors that you mentioned and he was able to let his idea come to fruition. I'm afraid that the length of time in this part of Michael Golden's career and his role in some of the events may be a bit more shrouded in mystery and are, again, probably best left up to comic lore and mystery.
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The next video its about that series that end with a x???
Not quite yet... first we have some Fanfare to deal with. Then we get Spartan with things haha
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Golden underrated? By who?
So, so many fans in the 90s and early 2000s. While it's true that Golden's less than amicable attitude might have played into his loss of work, as well as his general disinterest in comics at a given point, the fact is fans simply weren't clamoring for Golden like they should have. He never stuck around on a book long enough to really hook a massive mainstream audience and while some of his work in the 80s is highly heralded, there's about 3 people and a goat out there waiting for him to finish Spartan X or read any of that Jurassic Park stuff for anything but his covers. I was kind of personally shocked at the lack of interest people showed when I said Golden was going to be my next big project. Lots of people that lived through The Nam or are in the industry know how important and insanely talented Golden is but sadly, a lot of comic readers, especially these days, just don't.