@@ms1406 yea dude stop watching this guy’s UA-cam page he’s terrible he’s terrible this the same guy that put a Honda Civic vs a Supra he’s an idiot when it comes to cars
Great video. If you could please do slow motion at the end when the races are close that would be great. Also, if you could add 0-60 & 1/4 mile times for each race, that would be nice. Thanks again for all of the great content.
Wish the races were a bit longer. Even though the convertible Mustang is almost 200 lbs heavier than the fastback, it felt like Mustang was picking up better acceleration towards top end.
A coupe with the drag racing mode would be a much closer comparison than a base convertible but, good stuff either way! These new supras are doing great things.
I'm Supra biased, my nephew has one , and I was surprised how quick it was when I drove it. They're really fun from a 30 roll. I know the vert is heavier, but the mustang wasn't launched properly in any of the runs. He clearly wasn't building power on the converter, or brake boosting , if you will. Especially during the sport Trac off dig.
@@Tone_Of_Dials 50k is a lot to be fair. Before I got started in my career I thought 30k was a lot for a car now I think anything under 80k is reasonable lmao.
@Catholic Firefighter base also has different gearing not great for top end anyways only better for 0-60. Base doesn't have the performance package or lighter tires which all the pp2 and pp1 is a must to really be competitive unless u yourself want to source out the options. The supra base and premium have all the performance options standard, you only get a better interior and few cosmetic touches so regardless the supra gives you all the real necessary options
@Catholic Firefighter In 10 years the 51 k base Supra will be worth, 40k, in 10 years the 40k based Mustang will be worth, 4K. Don’t believe me? Google 1998 Supra for sale, then google 1998 Ford mustang GT for sale and see what you come up with.
It’s an even race if the mustang would have left together with the Supra from a roll. The 5.0 theoretically should pull on top with having more horsepower. And most definitely the curb weight of that stang is lower than 4000 even if it’s a convertible.
@@JV8901 I own a 450hp/480tq tuned Supra. You need big turbo, full bolt ons, port injection, fuel pump, and flex fuel to get that kind of power. Ideally you'd have a built transmission and upgraded axles also. That's an easy 9 second build with slicks.
I don’t understand why folks are so shocked. We haven’t seen a fast mustang in forever! The GT needs cat delete and e85 tune just to be competitive with twin turbo v6’s
@@amrridy7503 The weight that was shown at the beginning of the video is wrong, the Mustang is not 4500lbs, maybe 3800lbs, the Mustang should be making more power,, we don't know how much the Supra is really making, maybe 420hp, think the top 0to60 times are about 3.8 seconds for both, give or take a 1/10th, but this convertible is probably 200lbs heavier than a hard top GT.
Curb weight in the video may be off, but the mustang was definitely moving like a 4550lb car in this video lol. Should've been a close race even from a dig
It seems the Supra has shorter gearing than the Mustang. If you listen carefully when the Supra shirts to overdrive, you can hear how tall the last gear is.
10 speed Mustang gets shit on for 99% of the video: "I'm really impressed with that 10 speed in the Mustang" Zero mention of the superior ZF 8 speed in the Supra. Wat?
The 10 speed in the ustang is very quick quicker than the other other car the one. With the identady crises how quick 11.80. 117. For the manual 6 speed. 12.5. 115. Truth hurts !
I have an 18 gt 6 speed, the automatics are faster no doubt about it, that's where our technology is today but I love controlling the gears myself instead of just slamming my foot down, I have done 3 mods so far and I can feel the hp difference for sure, plus I wasn't about to pay almost 4 grand more for an automatic lol.
Why is it in a Sam video in August a Mustang GT is listed at 3800 lbs and in this video the same car is listed as 4550 lbs ? The 4500 lbs is closer to reality but points like this do make me second guess what is being reported
The Supra is a significantly more expensive car, but this isn’t its strength. It’s a canyon carver, weekend track car. I’m surprised it was even in the roll race. Personally I wouldn’t add any more power as it’s perfect with that set up. Fast enough for fun but u can still use all the power on a twisty road. Got my order. 3.0 premium w/ drivers assist in phantom…6 speed baby. Trading in my 16 civic lol. Wife said ok! 911 turbo(that will just be electric) at 65 or turbo Supra at 35. I’m taking the latter.
5 seat muscle car vs Deuce coup... The supra is about $8000 more than the Mustang gt. The Ford gt350 is around $4,000 more than the supra. That's probably a more comparable race. Also the Mustang has a generic engine that's everywhere the bmw b58 is a premium engine that only a few vehicles get
Curb weight on a convertible mustang GT is 3,825. Regular coupe is 3,700. Dunno where you got the 4,500lbs from, since that’s how much a Mach E weighs.
@@marcohinojosa4348 Whoa! Who lit the fuse on your tampon? “If you do this, if you do that.” 🤦♂️ Literally DP and a tune and that POS will need at least 15K-25K in mods to even KEEP UP.. The Supra beats it with EVERYTHING. Looks, MPG, ET, head turning, sound, reliability, EVERYTHING! 🤣🤣🤣 *Lowering you into the grave.* Ouch! This spanking stung a little didn’t it? You’re now dismissed “clown.”
@@blooddrunk1432 I have. I even recorded it. Albeit it was on the freeway. But we both know the stang would lose from the dig as well. My first car was even a mustang. And I thought it was quick just like everybody else that owns these crappy slow American cars. I.e. Challengers, chargers, Camaros, mustangs. Until you pull up next to an RS3, A90, etc. Sorry to break it to ya… Most Americans cars are just slow and lack any emotion.
Gt kids crying thinking the coupe would make a huge difference, it's only 100lbs, the outcome would have been the same from a dig, probably I think the coupe would beat the supra from a 70mph roll race though...
You’re joking right? The Supra is literally just a down pipe and tune away from hitting 10 seconds! People hard hitting 11 seconds with just changing the tires. The B58 will completely destroy a coyote mod per mod!
@@jpSD297 bro just stop you are reaching, motor vs motor NA and supra gets gapped, you add a single turbo on a mustang and supra gets gapped, supra is a great car but for the price you it's no competition, Supra cost easily 15k more l.
I'm no lover of Mustangs... but unless you had 3 fat people in the car with you there's no way it's heavy. This leads to the hp/lb being very wrong. 3825lbs and 460hp for the Mustang for 0.120 hp/lb. But we all know the Supra is horribly underrated. Stock they're putting down ~390whp while the Mustang is putting down ~400whp. Knowing that, this race was obvious...
0-60 for Mustang is 4.2 seconds for Supra it's 3.9. At the top end is where the extra horsepower and torque start to come into play and Mustang would win a 1/2 mile race. Mainly the difference is due to Mustang weight and possibly being a convertible.
The BMW has the torque advantage with the turbo, Mustang is just simply the choice for people wanting a genuine N/A V8 experience. You need to rev it more to get the best out of it, more fun in the real world than Supra in my opinion (even though it's a BMW).
4.,550 lbs on the Mustang? That’s a dodge charger challenger weight. The mustang gt coupe weights about 3,800lbs the convertible should be at 4,000lbs but another 550lbs? What’s inside that mustang?
12 second quarter mile, 460hp from factory for under 40k, how is that slow? That Coyote 5.0 is no joke I have an 18 gt 6 speed so I know, plus you have infinite mods to choose from, what other cars can you get for that price?
I don't get why companies underrated their hp number. Stock for stock supras are known to have 380hp to the wheels. Mustang is maybe around 15-20hp more but weighs more. Pp1 or pp2 mustang COUPE would've been a better race.
Not all about the bigger engine, 70hp difference and supra weighs 200 lbs less, top end the mustang keeps going I have a 2018 gt 6speed and I was going 142mph in 5th gear and it still had plenty more power.
Funny you should say that. Just a few days ago the new Nissan Z was reviewed and raced with a supra and mach1 so go youtube it and watch it was a good race.
A lot of mustang fanboys getting defensive in here haha. And before y’all get more mad, I don’t have either car. Just a neutral bystander with an old sedan
why wasnt there ANY wheel spin on the Mustang Gt? If you dont get a burn out or some wheel spin in a rear drive V8 car with 400plus horsepower at launch you are definitely doing something wrong in this drag race. Why does the Supra launch with wheel spin and the Mustang doesnt? You said it yourself "i had a better take off than him"
Since when is a stock 10r80 Mustang GT weighing in at 4,550 as stated at the beginning of the video? Lol mine is under 4k pounds with me in it. Good video nonetheless.
@@HarryTwatter dude it’s not. Yeah sure maybe it uses a BMW engine, but the reason it’s FASTER then the Z4M is because Toyota did some great modeling or added some stuff to the car. It’s also lighter, and the tcs system works better then the bmw. The only thing that is not Toyota in this supra, is the engine.
@@SamCarLegion lol I know man they're rare even in the US but I really wanna see how they do against their competitors, especially the way you race them 💪🏿
As a mustang owner, I can say they have fallen way behind the competition. They can make a ton of power, but cant effectively use it. Why can other manufacturers develop RWD cars that can launch like crazy, yet Americas 1st car company still hasnt figured it out?
@Catholic Firefighter closest competitor that isn’t domestic around that power for that price is prob the new 400z. Unfortunately that’s it, new is500 is 56 k bc luxury whatever and the Supra is more expensive for the German components as well
@Catholic Firefighter Its part of performance, but in actuality its the least important part. Power with no traction = useless. Power with bad suspension = useless. Power with too much weight = useless. Power with bad gearing = useless. Guys that drive exclusively american muscle cars and ride harleys just think "make it bigger and have more power". Thats why german, japanese, hell even korean cars all have them beat these days. Sure I own a mustang, but its actually the least fun, worst power delivery car I own.
Seen alot of jumping by the supra. Even worse you put in manual to start the race in the proper gear then kick it in drive. Seriously wtf is up with the comvertible? Its heavier and not a true comparison. If you want to choose a mustang in the same price range then how come you dont pit it against a mach 1 with 480hp?
@@SamCarLegion Hm no Ford has the eco boost at 3636 for the vert and 3492 for the coupe, I can link it if you want but car and driver and others have it the same too, besides I had my GT weighed when it got dyno tuned and it definitely was no where near that heavy
Mustang coupe makes about 415whp, and the Supra 390whp so they’re equal in hp to weight ratio, but the mustang has that naturally aspirated torque so I would probably have the mustang over the Supra
The 2022 premium GT i looked at was near $52,000 while a premium Supra is around $56,000 so im not sure where people think these cars are in two different prices points? $4000 isnt worth cheaping out to get the better car.
Ok I'm going to be that guy. The Supra is on Michelin Pilot sport which are sticky. It has a 5.29 first gear ratio. and 3.15 rear. The mustang is on continentals which are garbage. It also has a 4.79 first gear with the same 3.15 rear. If it was a PP1 with the same michelin's and the 3.55 gear ratio it may have launched a little better and held it's own, but with the help of turbo's to get it moving the Supra just walks it.
After reading these comments. A lot of y’all haven’t owned a 10 speed mustang. Don’t go based off this video. They are fast and both drivers don’t know how to launch the mustang.
Point remains the same.... It will lose. Sry but mustang have fans that stay in denial. The cars sound amazing look decent have power but are not the fastest
@@jayjones5333 Ask the guys that I raced. Asking me if my car is stock. Do you even have a GT? I’ve raced Amg and competition. Please don’t make a fool of yourself.
@@jblackrevo9 I had a GT 18 PP1, traded it for the Supra. It's lighter, drivers better and has better tuning potential. There is no way to make the GT to be in the high 10s with $2000 usd, the Supra can. Different cars.
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I’d actually like to see a GT coupe instead of the much heavier convertible.
Dude the convertible is like 3800 lbs idk what he’s talking
Coupe it’s 3700 convertible it’s 3800 look it up
@@cdl34453 in the vid they said the cw is 4500 that can't be so
@@ms1406 agreed! That’s like Hellcat weight! lol
@@ms1406 yea dude stop watching this guy’s UA-cam page he’s terrible he’s terrible this the same guy that put a Honda Civic vs a Supra he’s an idiot when it comes to cars
@@cdl34453 lol damn man
Supra 💪. But 4500lbs for the mustang??? Does the driver weigh 700lbs or something. They are rated around 3800-3900lbs.
@@Eugen-E do you really believe that a conv mustang could be 4500lbs. Maybe the new suv version is. The OP def. Got specs for the Suv mustang
The mustang convertible weight around 3825 while the fast bast is 125 less.
The convertible version of the Mustang was not helping the cause.
@@mcbgaming95 power to weight is all that matters you be light all you want if the hp /curb weight is lower you will lose top end
Yep the vert only weighs like 3900-4k. Obviously a mistake was made but OPs video was still great. Mistakes happen
Great video. If you could please do slow motion at the end when the races are close that would be great. Also, if you could add 0-60 & 1/4 mile times for each race, that would be nice. Thanks again for all of the great content.
You right we love number ITs the best way to compare
Wish the races were a bit longer. Even though the convertible Mustang is almost 200 lbs heavier than the fastback, it felt like Mustang was picking up better acceleration towards top end.
A coupe with the drag racing mode would be a much closer comparison than a base convertible but, good stuff either way! These new supras are doing great things.
mustang is faster
It better be with more power out of a 5.0 v8.....it would be a big problem if it was slower LOL.@@Albatrosi-123
I'm Supra biased, my nephew has one , and I was surprised how quick it was when I drove it. They're really fun from a 30 roll. I know the vert is heavier, but the mustang wasn't launched properly in any of the runs. He clearly wasn't building power on the converter, or brake boosting , if you will. Especially during the sport Trac off dig.
Brake boosting an NA V8 motor?
@@Tone_Of_Dials Owning a Supra does not make you rich - Sincerely , a Supra owner who financed half the car.
@@Tone_Of_Dials 50k is a lot to be fair. Before I got started in my career I thought 30k was a lot for a car now I think anything under 80k is reasonable lmao.
@@Tone_Of_Dials I graduated University 4 months ago lmao. I know where you're at. It gets better, trust me.
All he had to do was downshift. The whole point od the 10 speed is to use those extra 4 gears
That B58 engine is awesome in stock fashion. Plus that ZF 8 speed is a killer transmission..
Wow this is the first race I thought there would be a clear winner and the outcome was totally different. Great match up
Fantastic video. Mustang convertible is heavier than a coupe version, hence a bit slower. But supra would still win, cant lie I have a mustang gt :D
3825 not 4550.
No it doesn’t.
@Catholic Firefighter base gt has 0 options lol，if you are fine with cloth seats and no navi.
@@tongsun3136 whats a Navi?
@Catholic Firefighter base also has different gearing not great for top end anyways only better for 0-60. Base doesn't have the performance package or lighter tires which all the pp2 and pp1 is a must to really be competitive unless u yourself want to source out the options. The supra base and premium have all the performance options standard, you only get a better interior and few cosmetic touches so regardless the supra gives you all the real necessary options
notice the windmills in the back creating all that power.
Good races, really surprised how the Supra performed at the top on the rolling races. But as we all know the B58 motor is under rated by BMW.
Everyone knows the 21 Supra really pushes about 450 Hp the the crank 388 to the wheels.
Toyota (BMW) lied on their HP 😎
@Catholic Firefighter In 10 years the 51 k base Supra will be worth, 40k, in 10 years the 40k based Mustang will be worth, 4K.
Don’t believe me? Google 1998 Supra for sale, then google 1998 Ford mustang GT for sale and see what you come up with.
@Catholic Firefighter there’s no supra in 2011 .. & 1998 supra still more expensive than 2011 mustang gt or even shelby & maybe more than 2021
@Catholic Firefighter 2011 mustang gt for 30k lol this guy is real fun at parties
@Catholic Firefighter No one paulying 30k for a 2011 Rust bucket Stang.🤣 Fuck outta... Here...
@@kobedabest I won't even pay 3k for that garbage toyota and people are comparing this trash with mustang lol
If i remember correctly they call Supra V8 Killers
It’s an even race if the mustang would have left together with the Supra from a roll. The 5.0 theoretically should pull on top with having more horsepower. And most definitely the curb weight of that stang is lower than 4000 even if it’s a convertible.
So the mustang curb weight listed in this video was 600lbs off?
@@HarryKuloh Yes there is no way it ways 4500 it's more like 38XX
@@HarryKuloh yes 4,550lbs is challenger charger territory.
Its all in the tuning.
@@JV8901 what? Tuning gives you 500-600lbs?
Would be interesting to see a non convertible with performance pack set to drag mode. Should do better.
Facts. Convertibles are heavier than non Convertibles... Mustang lost before the race. Lol
Check throttle house’s UA-cam
Plus no traction with base model wheels
@@JuergenChappelle yea that was the 2020 Supra against the GT not the 2021 Supra. The 2021 is after than the 2020
@@JonathanSanchez-vu6mx right. Missed that detail
When he said let’s see if the GR Supra can keep up with the 10 speed I was DYING OF LAUGHTER
Supra has MUCH more to gain with just a tune
Literally like twice what it brings from factory. Its amazing the amount of power you can get out of that in line 6.
@@JV8901 Twice? So almost 800hp with a tune? Lol, no.
@@wfujay3946 Snap, now i read this and notice. Obviously not just the tune, it needs hardware and other stuff.
@@JV8901 I own a 450hp/480tq tuned Supra. You need big turbo, full bolt ons, port injection, fuel pump, and flex fuel to get that kind of power. Ideally you'd have a built transmission and upgraded axles also. That's an easy 9 second build with slicks.
@@wfujay3946 Yeah, i got carried away on that one lol
There is an 1100 pound difference between the 2 cars😳 not really a fair comparison
I prefer the BMW Supra over the mustang, but the Ford would be cheaper to maintain in the long run.. epic race!
I don’t understand why folks are so shocked. We haven’t seen a fast mustang in forever! The GT needs cat delete and e85 tune just to be competitive with twin turbo v6’s
This should be really close, reaction time could make the difference.
It shouldn’t be close just like how it was Supra way lighter then the mustang
@@amrridy7503 The weight that was shown at the beginning of the video is wrong, the Mustang is not 4500lbs, maybe 3800lbs, the Mustang should be making more power,, we don't know how much the Supra is really making, maybe 420hp, think the top 0to60 times are about 3.8 seconds for both, give or take a 1/10th, but this convertible is probably 200lbs heavier than a hard top GT.
@@garys2157 Correct me if I’m wrong, but the 0-60 time on a convertible mustang is definitely not 3.8 seconds.
@@garys2157 supras just the faster car
@@Nicky392WB No, you are right the convertible does not get 3.8, I said the Top for the Supra and a Mustang GT are both about 3.8.
Curb weight in the video may be off, but the mustang was definitely moving like a 4550lb car in this video lol. Should've been a close race even from a dig
It seems the Supra has shorter gearing than the Mustang. If you listen carefully when the Supra shirts to overdrive, you can hear how tall the last gear is.
Seeing that the Mustang is over a 1/2 ton heavier (😳) than the Supra, I figured the Supra would do well!
Damn good race Sam👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks bud👊🏽👊🏽
The weight was wrong a Mustang gt is 3700 lbs and a convertible is 3800. This guy needs someone to do his video productions , they are quite sloppy.
@@vroomgc it's actually 3915lbs
@@vroomgc exactly, I was looking so confused as I was expecting more like 3600-3800, not 4500. The weight in the video weighs more than most SUV’s
With a 100 less hp take those week ford's back to the shop and that's a bmw engine wack GT mustangs 😂😂
So 500lbs is not a half tons. A ton is either 2000lbs or 2200lbs (1000kg)
10 speed Mustang gets shit on for 99% of the video: "I'm really impressed with that 10 speed in the Mustang" Zero mention of the superior ZF 8 speed in the Supra. Wat?
The 10 speed in the ustang is very quick quicker than the other other car the one. With the identady crises how quick 11.80. 117. For the manual 6 speed. 12.5. 115. Truth hurts !
I have an 18 gt 6 speed, the automatics are faster no doubt about it, that's where our technology is today but I love controlling the gears myself instead of just slamming my foot down, I have done 3 mods so far and I can feel the hp difference for sure, plus I wasn't about to pay almost 4 grand more for an automatic lol.
The supra is so quiet in comfort mode, i can actually surprise my friends by showing up without them hearing me lol
or you can pull up in that 2018 and up 5.0 V8 and have them hear you a couple miles away
I'd love these videos to show a GT couple with the performance pack. Tire size and weight make a huge difference.
4500lbs? Cmon bud, any car guy should know thats not right
Why is it in a Sam video in August a Mustang GT is listed at 3800 lbs and in this video the same car is listed as 4550 lbs ? The 4500 lbs is closer to reality but points like this do make me second guess what is being reported
Why did you choose a hardtop vs a convertible? Not really a fair race. Also you need a PP1 car which gives you better gearing.
Do you have a hard top so we can borrow it?
Sam, you have the CW listed for the Mustang at 4550. Might be a little high.
Yeah they’re around 3,800 or so
It's the drop top that's adding the weight
@@Viperjay09 the convert is around 100 pounds more wich makes it like 3900 something.The mustang is no where close to be 4500 lbs.
@@pope9349 3825 is the convertible GT base curb weight.
@@cpineo13 yeah its not 4500 lol.
The Supra is a significantly more expensive car, but this isn’t its strength. It’s a canyon carver, weekend track car.
I’m surprised it was even in the roll race.
Personally I wouldn’t add any more power as it’s perfect with that set up. Fast enough for fun but u can still use all the power on a twisty road.
Got my order. 3.0 premium w/ drivers assist in phantom…6 speed baby. Trading in my 16 civic lol. Wife said ok!
911 turbo(that will just be electric) at 65 or turbo Supra at 35. I’m taking the latter.
Don't help when mustang isn't under load at the start and spinning into 2nd gear!
2021 GT convertibles come heavily equipped so they can reach over 4000 lbs if you guys don’t know
They don’t. There isn’t that many options to add to a mustang to add an extra 200lbs just from spec.
That Supra from the dig beats most American muscle cars. Plus that ZF 8 speed is perfection.
I’d like to see the Lexus isf 5.0 at some point!!
5 seat muscle car vs Deuce coup... The supra is about $8000 more than the Mustang gt. The Ford gt350 is around $4,000 more than the supra. That's probably a more comparable race. Also the Mustang has a generic engine that's everywhere the bmw b58 is a premium engine that only a few vehicles get
Even in spite it’s curb weight, the Supra seems to be extremely underrated in its factory power ratings. That would seem more like 380 to the wheels
Stock tune has been dyno'd at 404 hp. And 480hp with just a down pipe and tune. Absolute beast.
Love the content , amazing less weight really shines!
I don't believe a stang weighs 4500 lb . More likely.
Curb weight on a convertible mustang GT is 3,825. Regular coupe is 3,700. Dunno where you got the 4,500lbs from, since that’s how much a Mach E weighs.
Mustang didn’t load up on the converter, makes a huge difference in the 10 speed
Mustang will still lose. They’re just slow cars.
@@hughesbalasanga9037 A slow N/A car, foh clown, all you gotta do is do minor mods and it mops the floor with that Supra for the same price…
@@marcohinojosa4348 Whoa! Who lit the fuse on your tampon?
“If you do this, if you do that.” 🤦♂️
Literally DP and a tune and that POS will need at least 15K-25K in mods to even KEEP UP..
The Supra beats it with EVERYTHING. Looks, MPG, ET, head turning, sound, reliability, EVERYTHING! 🤣🤣🤣 *Lowering you into the grave.*
Ouch! This spanking stung a little didn’t it? You’re now dismissed “clown.”
@@hughesbalasanga9037 LOL ? Go outside and race one If youre calling the coyote 5.0 SLow youre SLOW in your head.
@@blooddrunk1432 I have. I even recorded it. Albeit it was on the freeway. But we both know the stang would lose from the dig as well. My first car was even a mustang. And I thought it was quick just like everybody else that owns these crappy slow American cars. I.e. Challengers, chargers, Camaros, mustangs. Until you pull up next to an RS3, A90, etc. Sorry to break it to ya… Most Americans cars are just slow and lack any emotion.
Gt kids crying thinking the coupe would make a huge difference, it's only 100lbs, the outcome would have been the same from a dig, probably I think the coupe would beat the supra from a 70mph roll race though...
only difference is . the stang is literally a tune and e85 in the tank away from being a 10 second car
You’re joking right? The Supra is literally just a down pipe and tune away from hitting 10 seconds! People hard hitting 11 seconds with just changing the tires. The B58 will completely destroy a coyote mod per mod!
@@jpSD297 bro just stop you are reaching, motor vs motor NA and supra gets gapped, you add a single turbo on a mustang and supra gets gapped, supra is a great car but for the price you it's no competition, Supra cost easily 15k more l.
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I'm no lover of Mustangs... but unless you had 3 fat people in the car with you there's no way it's heavy. This leads to the hp/lb being very wrong. 3825lbs and 460hp for the Mustang for 0.120 hp/lb.
But we all know the Supra is horribly underrated. Stock they're putting down ~390whp while the Mustang is putting down ~400whp. Knowing that, this race was obvious...
Exactly!
Is that Mustang GT weight a typo? There's no way that thing is 4,500lbs, even with the rag top?!
0-60 for Mustang is 4.2 seconds for Supra it's 3.9. At the top end is where the extra horsepower and torque start to come into play and Mustang would win a 1/2 mile race. Mainly the difference is due to Mustang weight and possibly being a convertible.
The BMW has the torque advantage with the turbo, Mustang is just simply the choice for people wanting a genuine N/A V8 experience. You need to rev it more to get the best out of it, more fun in the real world than Supra in my opinion (even though it's a BMW).
That mustang owner doesn’t know how to drive tbh...
4.,550 lbs on the Mustang? That’s a dodge charger challenger weight. The mustang gt coupe weights about 3,800lbs the convertible should be at 4,000lbs but another 550lbs? What’s inside that mustang?
We need one with the Mustang performance pack 10-Spd!
That Supra has a character of Z4 gt3 in it , it's there, somewhere in there.
Mustangs don't weigh 4500+ lbs. That's Charger Hellcat widebody territory. Mustang is probably 3900 ish. Maybe.
Yeah I was wondering what was up with that. 3800-3900 is about what I was seeing as well.
That Supra is bloody impressive what’s the top speed on those things
Limited from the factory at 155 mph.
Based on that tattoo, Sam is an Albanian fella :)
Yes sir
What we've learned is that a Supra GR(2021 and up) will kill anything with a Mustang logo on it. Mustangs are slow anyway.Hahahaha
What's the safety rating on the Supra? Also you can tune the mustang to be faster
12 second quarter mile, 460hp from factory for under 40k, how is that slow? That Coyote 5.0 is no joke I have an 18 gt 6 speed so I know, plus you have infinite mods to choose from, what other cars can you get for that price?
I don't get why companies underrated their hp number. Stock for stock supras are known to have 380hp to the wheels. Mustang is maybe around 15-20hp more but weighs more. Pp1 or pp2 mustang COUPE would've been a better race.
👀 that Supra got me like 🤯🤔❤️
Which one is win
A bit surprising because the Mustang had the bigger engine. However, when you realize the Supra is really a BMW.....
Not all about the bigger engine, 70hp difference and supra weighs 200 lbs less, top end the mustang keeps going I have a 2018 gt 6speed and I was going 142mph in 5th gear and it still had plenty more power.
The Mach-1 has more horsepower, should try that one.
Funny you should say that. Just a few days ago the new Nissan Z was reviewed and raced with a supra and mach1 so go youtube it and watch it was a good race.
Cheated on the 3rd race
Cheated his ass off
"His 10spds gonna get me"
Meanwhile their doing 80mph+ Dude lost all credit with that statement.
It's a Ford.
A lot of mustang fanboys getting defensive in here haha. And before y’all get more mad, I don’t have either car. Just a neutral bystander with an old sedan
😂😂
why wasnt there ANY wheel spin on the Mustang Gt? If you dont get a burn out or some wheel spin in a rear drive V8 car with 400plus horsepower at launch you are definitely doing something wrong in this drag race. Why does the Supra launch with wheel spin and the Mustang doesnt? You said it yourself "i had a better take off than him"
How is that a 21 Supra, it had a red interior? Either is a launch edition 20, or it’s a 2022 premium/ CF.
Since when is a stock 10r80 Mustang GT weighing in at 4,550 as stated at the beginning of the video? Lol mine is under 4k pounds with me in it. Good video nonetheless.
Why did you use a GT convertible instead of a coupe? Pointless race
Consider a rerun with an auto performance pack/track pack GT and non convertible. Should be an interesting turnout.
Stang would win
Considering the supra makes 80 less horsepower it is a really close race and says a lot about the supra. My M340ix is pretty gnarly for having "382hp"
@@M340B58 3 series with M appearance package 😂
When people say Toyota only makes slow cars
because it's a BMW
@@HarryTwatter dude it’s not. Yeah sure maybe it uses a BMW engine, but the reason it’s FASTER then the Z4M is because Toyota did some great modeling or added some stuff to the car. It’s also lighter, and the tcs system works better then the bmw. The only thing that is not Toyota in this supra, is the engine.
So what's better
Where did all the extra curb weight come from on that GT? 4500 lbs? The convertible stock is supposed to 3700.
Much better introduction music 💯
I don’t know even on the rolls it didn’t seem like either of the drivers was down shifting to the lowest gear possible
I would like to see Lexus IS500 vs Supra GR
Really wanna see a Lexus GS F vs another NA car like a Camaro SS or Mustang GT. If not then the Infiniti q50 RS
Hard to find Lexus cars to race
@@SamCarLegion lol I know man they're rare even in the US but I really wanna see how they do against their competitors, especially the way you race them 💪🏿
Why didn’t you take my grandma’s minivan against Supra?
How can you compare Coupe with Convertible??
Great content but I was pretty sure the Toyota "BMW" was gonna take it.
To be fair for both cars you should’ve tried roll race at 120 kmh
As a mustang owner, I can say they have fallen way behind the competition. They can make a ton of power, but cant effectively use it. Why can other manufacturers develop RWD cars that can launch like crazy, yet Americas 1st car company still hasnt figured it out?
Good point, but out of all the American muscle cars/ performance the Mustang is the better one.
@Catholic Firefighter Price/POWER....maybe. Lots of stuff beats the mustang price/performance.
@Catholic Firefighter closest competitor that isn’t domestic around that power for that price is prob the new 400z. Unfortunately that’s it, new is500 is 56 k bc luxury whatever and the Supra is more expensive for the German components as well
@Catholic Firefighter Its part of performance, but in actuality its the least important part. Power with no traction = useless.
Power with bad suspension = useless.
Power with too much weight = useless.
Power with bad gearing = useless.
Guys that drive exclusively american muscle cars and ride harleys just think "make it bigger and have more power". Thats why german, japanese, hell even korean cars all have them beat these days. Sure I own a mustang, but its actually the least fun, worst power delivery car I own.
The driver sucked
Do remember b58 can make 500+hp with simple tune lol
and a 5.0 will make 1000 with a turbo
@@HarryTwatter simple tune cost 1000+，5.0+turbo+tune 5000+🙂
@@tongsun3136 while that may be true, the mustang with the numbers for the mods you mentioned still costs less money than the supra
Supra easily cost 15k more from factory than a GT mustang, so you wanna really compare put 15k in gt mustang to equal the price and see what happens.
I wish you could have honked off the roll races to make sure the cars leave around the same time
We have a flag person
Seen alot of jumping by the supra. Even worse you put in manual to start the race in the proper gear then kick it in drive. Seriously wtf is up with the comvertible? Its heavier and not a true comparison. If you want to choose a mustang in the same price range then how come you dont pit it against a mach 1 with 480hp?
The mustang weighs 4550?
@Catholic Firefighter is that for the Coup or Convertible
did any 21 supra get the red interior thought that was only a 2020 thing.
Can you do Charger GT Vs Avalon TRD?
I wish I could fine one
Doesn’t the mustang vert weigh about 3800? 4550 seems to be hellcat weight 😅
A quick google says like 3850. No way this is 4550.
No it doesn’t, definitely not 3800lbs
@@shoutingwulf8648 every site I searched says above 4300 lbs, no way it is 3900. Maybe you are looking at the Ecoboost
@@SamCarLegion Hm no Ford has the eco boost at 3636 for the vert and 3492 for the coupe, I can link it if you want but car and driver and others have it the same too, besides I had my GT weighed when it got dyno tuned and it definitely was no where near that heavy
www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/2021/st-401880880/features-specs/
Go to dimensions. That’s my reference point
what's the colour of that Mustang ?
Love the intro music!
Mustang coupe makes about 415whp, and the Supra 390whp so they’re equal in hp to weight ratio, but the mustang has that naturally aspirated torque so I would probably have the mustang over the Supra
Need to get the fastback mustang, the convertible ones are like 200 pounds heavier.
Only 100lbs but I agree. Also should get one with performance pack to get better tires.
Is that the 2020 or 2022?
I thought 2021 only has black interiors.
In Canada and in Europe the 21 come with red interior. This is a Canadian Market Supra.
Technology > brute force. If the mustang gets the $10k difference in parts it will be even :)
You know nothing about the mustang gt if you think $10k in parts will make it even with a stock Supra.
3 grand in Mods to the Supra (Tune and down pipe) and it’s bye bye 👋
The 2022 premium GT i looked at was near $52,000 while a premium Supra is around $56,000 so im not sure where people think these cars are in two different prices points? $4000 isnt worth cheaping out to get the better car.
Ok I'm going to be that guy. The Supra is on Michelin Pilot sport which are sticky. It has a 5.29 first gear ratio. and 3.15 rear. The mustang is on continentals which are garbage. It also has a 4.79 first gear with the same 3.15 rear. If it was a PP1 with the same michelin's and the 3.55 gear ratio it may have launched a little better and held it's own, but with the help of turbo's to get it moving the Supra just walks it.
After reading these comments. A lot of y’all haven’t owned a 10 speed mustang. Don’t go based off this video. They are fast and both drivers don’t know how to launch the mustang.
Point remains the same.... It will lose. Sry but mustang have fans that stay in denial. The cars sound amazing look decent have power but are not the fastest
@@jayjones5333 Ask the guys that I raced. Asking me if my car is stock. Do you even have a GT? I’ve raced Amg and competition. Please don’t make a fool of yourself.
@@jblackrevo9 I had a GT 18 PP1, traded it for the Supra. It's lighter, drivers better and has better tuning potential. There is no way to make the GT to be in the high 10s with $2000 usd, the Supra can. Different cars.
Why convertible though?
The Mustang GT coupe is lighter and faster. It would be a more fair comparison.