if you’ve ever taken coaching sessions with m2k, expressions like “you fool!”, “what are you doing?!”, “stop doing that!” are a commonplace. don’t get me wrong, m2k is one of the best coaches-if not the best-but yeah his commentary folds me LOL
We need more top player commentary. They're always too busy playing to commentate and provide their unique "2 steps ahead" insight. They were both like 2 steps ahead and had the option scouted. So cool
Fatality seems to progress slightly every time he faces Kola, but I think he doesn't lack any matchup experience anymore. What he (imo) lacks is the mindset and, with that, the punishes. In the first games, you can actually see him mixing up his ledge game, being as weird in disadvantage as possible and trying out different things in neutral. But it's always the last game/s that he starts getting overwhelmed and doing THE SAME ledge option (being drop down double jump nair) and the SAME things in neutral, being either short hop nair 1 2 or dash attack. On top of that, I think he should really stop punishing things with run up grab all the time. Down and up throw get him nowhere, because it's mad easy to predict and DI away when he repeats the procedure over and over again. Instead, he should mix it up with side b which has actual true and/or easier combos or just up b when he has enough time like for example after Kola missed an up oos. Also, Falcon shouldn't edge guard Roy with drop down dair or weak knee, both don't work if the Roy knows what he does and what Roy can do. I've had more success with bair, but still not worth it, if you miss, you get like 10-20 from the up b and are in a weird spot OR you end up on the ledge. And Roy's ledge trapping is very scary for Falcon.
In every single Fatality vs Kola set, I see him constantly going off stage, and 9 times out of 10, he doesn't hit Kola. Kola ends up getting free damage and/or reverse edge guarding him.
I haven't watched the video yet but the reason he does up throw against roy is because fatality knows kola can escape out of dthrow. It's much better for kola to be above fatality than it is horizontally unless he's setting up for a edge guard/ledge trap and up air is usually true from up throw no matter the DI.
@@Bixnoodle 100%. Its just yelling and bullshit from those types of commentators. They all flock to fighting games but never can compete at the highest level. Whites/Asians dominate, just like in most video games and life honestly.
This was won on the mental game. Both players performed well technically, but props to Kola for staying cool even after a bad loss. In contrast, my man Fatality fell apart mentally--you could see it in his play in the final game. Kept making bad decisions and Kola smelled blood in the water
Fatality has a real hard time with swordy matchips and it sucks, the first 2 games were good from him but the 3 after were just downhill. Hopefully he'll get better with mix ups and his punish game
Its not just Fatality, thats a Falcon problem in general. He really suffers against big disjoints because they tend to zone right in the space he wants to be in, and moves like side b frequently gets stuffed before the armor activates by sword moves. He has a really hard time getting the ball rolling because of that.
You know what Fatality did so much better than I thought. After that 3-0 versus Tweek I thought his mind would be in the gutter but he showed up and I'm not gonna lie was kind of saucing. To go 3-2 versus a matchup you know that you are not good at and you know your character loses is impressive. Kola of course playing awesome, proud of the Georgia boys
Fatality needs a secondary every top 10player has at least three characters they switch to in case of bad matchups or play styles he needs to switch it up idk if he ever won a major but he definitely won’t ever do it with his his solo falcon
He was going to train a secondary but then he realized he didn't want to play anyone other than Falcon. Besides, I watch him because he's the best Falcon. Another Pyra/Mythra player would be lame.
@@PHIplaytesting I get your point but I disagree he doesn’t have to choose pyra he can play anyone else there are 80 something characters im saying he needs to have another character to go to cause as you see it’s not working
@@MrBakerman58 I mean people used to say Falcon couldn't win in Melee too and then Wizzy beat everyone and is always a contender at majors, even winning them. I dont know if that'll ever happen in Ultimate but the simple fact is that Fatality isn't motivated when he isn't playing Falcon. He wants to win but he wants to do it on his terms. Playing the character(s) you resonate with will always give you better results than just picking better characters.
I swear Roy can just throw out moves and it works (and kills!). But, I have to say as a fan of fatality, he got outplayed. He just took so, so, so many offstage risks and picked desperate options. Nerves are tough, so I understand why
Fantastic set. Spoilers below It's gotta be rough running into a local bracket demon in bigger tourneys like this for Fatality. He feels like he's getting closer and closer every time though, his grind will get results eventually you can feel it.
Fatality needs a secondary, he cant climb the competitive ladder if he keeps staying too loyal to Captain Falcon, i mean I respect that but you need another secondary for terrible matchups like Roy
No he needs to switch his style against Kola. He could have reversed edge guard Kola a few times if he raptor boosted. I think it's a good tool to use in disadvantage.
@@ramongosling5309 mu is -1, even before he still struggled against roy, he had a moment where he figured out the roy mu but roy having a sword and speed matching falcon can make it oppressive. Also hard to edge guard roy up b off stage with falcon's moves
@@myoblivion420 But at the same time, he literally hasn't lost a set to Fatality in forever. It seems a little silly to get hyped up for beating him for the 90th time in a row. Love Kola, but it did seem a bit dumb.
This is a big brother little brother matchup. As long as Kola is serious he’ll never lose the set. It’s sucks to see but it is what it is. Also what the heck where the up throws from Fatality for? I’m genuinely curious…… looks like a terrible option.
Kola knows the matchup well and Dthrow on Roy doesnt lead to anything if it is DI'd correctly in a lot of situations. With up throw he at least gets a juggle opportunity, there may be some frametrap with up air after at zero too (notice they were usually at zero or low percent). Thats probably the thought process. Honestly when you have an opponent that schools you this regularly like this you kinda have to experiment and try to throw him off.
In addition to everyone (rightly) commenting on fatality's mindset and neutral, one small point that I really don't understand is his usage of u-throw. It pretty much cost him that last game and gets nothing from it. He could have at least got an u-air of nair from d-throw and pushed roy closer to the ledge.
@@igotthemunchies7292 lol not the worst recovery. specially when you can use up Bs for guarantees in other situations. Roy is busted and everyone knows it. I'm just amazed y he hasn't been nerfed, so many players have picked him up because he so easily exploitable.
so many people play roy but only one gets results lmfao just give kola his flowers already and stop crying. roy falcon is slight roy at most kola is just an insane player.
This guy fatality will die by his aggression. You know, if he can master patient falcon and combine it with his overly aggressive falcon he'd be a beast. And all he wants to do is neutral air all day, to knee. Falcon in this iteration of smash isn't meant to be played like he plays him. You have to utilize every move in his arsenal.
feel like fatality is chasing perfection, you never catch the dragon, you only chase it for as long as you can. falcon doesnt have a sword or tough guy into s, doesnt even have a proper shield poke... to make all that worse, he doesnt have a ranged grab to make up for all that. maybe more coke will give fatality bullet time.
Why do they call perfect block a parry, blocking is not the same as parry. Parry is when you deviate the attack to then counter attack. I thought parry in smash was when 2 attacks clashed and canceled each other. Its p block geezus
Just because one falcon player consistently gets demolished by one Roy player doesn't mean the matchup is impossible. If Leo picked up Falcon I guarantee you he'd get Ws off of Roy players
I hate M2K commentary, this dude is legit just trying to correct everything hungry box is saying, or just talking about how roy is op. They aint even saying anything about the good combos they hittin...
The only way fatality will win this matchup is gimping and cheesing and running. It is not pretty, but it works. Fatality has too many disadvantages to Roy. Evading and Spacing is one of the Godly tactics.
Fatality would not go to ledge that last game. Quit jumping to stage. So greedy. Why would you do that on the last game 2-2… everybody wants fatality to do well. He butchered his chances that last game
M2K’s commentary kills me “That’s so strong” “YOU FOOL!” “ROY’S WAY TOO STRONG”
if you’ve ever taken coaching sessions with m2k, expressions like “you fool!”, “what are you doing?!”, “stop doing that!” are a commonplace. don’t get me wrong, m2k is one of the best coaches-if not the best-but yeah his commentary folds me LOL
False
Both of them are good
STRONG KNEE!
Fr lmao
"everyone i love is here" took the words right out my mouth lol
$500 sweatshirt btw 👀
Got me on the “get some sleep” part too
I also noticed that he has lots of braindead moments where he just iddles (With or without shield up).
@@futurfry are you serious. Does it fold and wash itself?
@@Death_by_Inches $80 dollars. 5 months late but 0.0
2 melee legends commentating ultimate... what a sight.
It‘s m2k and who? Hbox?
@@igorz.61 Hbox is a god too. He is melee incarnate, never meant to have existed in the way it does, yet it has become legend
My thoughts exactly
Are they not competing in ultimate?
We need more top player commentary. They're always too busy playing to commentate and provide their unique "2 steps ahead" insight. They were both like 2 steps ahead and had the option scouted. So cool
I prefer these two to breezy and that other dude who are just shouting and making hood jokes the entire time
Fatality seems to progress slightly every time he faces Kola, but I think he doesn't lack any matchup experience anymore.
What he (imo) lacks is the mindset and, with that, the punishes. In the first games, you can actually see him mixing up his ledge game, being as weird in disadvantage as possible and trying out different things in neutral. But it's always the last game/s that he starts getting overwhelmed and doing THE SAME ledge option (being drop down double jump nair) and the SAME things in neutral, being either short hop nair 1 2 or dash attack. On top of that, I think he should really stop punishing things with run up grab all the time. Down and up throw get him nowhere, because it's mad easy to predict and DI away when he repeats the procedure over and over again. Instead, he should mix it up with side b which has actual true and/or easier combos or just up b when he has enough time like for example after Kola missed an up oos.
Also, Falcon shouldn't edge guard Roy with drop down dair or weak knee, both don't work if the Roy knows what he does and what Roy can do. I've had more success with bair, but still not worth it, if you miss, you get like 10-20 from the up b and are in a weird spot OR you end up on the ledge. And Roy's ledge trapping is very scary for Falcon.
Crazy good analysis, this was a good read bro
almost good, but u missed the part where he should stop jumping from ledge everytime
In every single Fatality vs Kola set, I see him constantly going off stage, and 9 times out of 10, he doesn't hit Kola. Kola ends up getting free damage and/or reverse edge guarding him.
I haven't watched the video yet but the reason he does up throw against roy is because fatality knows kola can escape out of dthrow. It's much better for kola to be above fatality than it is horizontally unless he's setting up for a edge guard/ledge trap and up air is usually true from up throw no matter the DI.
Ya Fatality always chokes against Kola.
Petition to get Hbox and M2K on commentary for every match/game/tournament
Right? Way better than just ebonics jokes the entire time
@@Bixnoodle 100%. Its just yelling and bullshit from those types of commentators. They all flock to fighting games but never can compete at the highest level. Whites/Asians dominate, just like in most video games and life honestly.
Ik that we’re in like year 4 of ultimate but I love how Ultimate bridged the gap between Melee players and everyone else that came after.
beautiful comment ❤
I'm a simple man. I do it with my girl while fatality and kola sets are playing on speaker.
You just know how much both commentators know one another! The history, some of the best commentary I've heard to date
This was won on the mental game. Both players performed well technically, but props to Kola for staying cool even after a bad loss. In contrast, my man Fatality fell apart mentally--you could see it in his play in the final game. Kept making bad decisions and Kola smelled blood in the water
Fatality has a real hard time with swordy matchips and it sucks, the first 2 games were good from him but the 3 after were just downhill. Hopefully he'll get better with mix ups and his punish game
Its not just Fatality, thats a Falcon problem in general. He really suffers against big disjoints because they tend to zone right in the space he wants to be in, and moves like side b frequently gets stuffed before the armor activates by sword moves. He has a really hard time getting the ball rolling because of that.
You know what Fatality did so much better than I thought. After that 3-0 versus Tweek I thought his mind would be in the gutter but he showed up and I'm not gonna lie was kind of saucing. To go 3-2 versus a matchup you know that you are not good at and you know your character loses is impressive. Kola of course playing awesome, proud of the Georgia boys
Georgia is full of players I love to see play. They always never fail to I,press me.
I feel like fatality is just able to recover much further out with captain. I’m like, I die if I go that far out.
Roy looking like a fire mage with that final combo. Congrats Kola, well played Fatality. Love watching Fatality nevertheless
That finished combo was disgusting. For the win. 🤩
Ayyy nice to hear m2k on commentary 😁
Seems like every time Fatality did a getup attack he got KO'd instantly
Fatality needs a secondary every top 10player has at least three characters they switch to in case of bad matchups or play styles he needs to switch it up idk if he ever won a major but he definitely won’t ever do it with his his solo falcon
Fatality ain't top 10 if he had a secondary it would still lose because he's worse than the other player.
He was going to train a secondary but then he realized he didn't want to play anyone other than Falcon. Besides, I watch him because he's the best Falcon. Another Pyra/Mythra player would be lame.
honestly he should just secondary ganondorf
@@PHIplaytesting I get your point but I disagree he doesn’t have to choose pyra he can play anyone else there are 80 something characters im saying he needs to have another character to go to cause as you see it’s not working
@@MrBakerman58 I mean people used to say Falcon couldn't win in Melee too and then Wizzy beat everyone and is always a contender at majors, even winning them.
I dont know if that'll ever happen in Ultimate but the simple fact is that Fatality isn't motivated when he isn't playing Falcon. He wants to win but he wants to do it on his terms. Playing the character(s) you resonate with will always give you better results than just picking better characters.
still waiting for fatality to win against kola
He took a set b4 I believe
I wonder what fatality is going to say on his next stream
That he’s retiring
@@Reconqu1sta2 yes, from losing to roy
@@enviableace9987 ngl roy is annoying I don’t blame him
Fatality: if they were using dk i would win, tust me brus
He's gonna provide more excuses for losing of course. He makes excuses for losing to MkLeo...
That last stock was amazing.
2 Melee GODs commentating I love it
7:06 That face of fatality after this LOL
I swear Roy can just throw out moves and it works (and kills!). But, I have to say as a fan of fatality, he got outplayed. He just took so, so, so many offstage risks and picked desperate options. Nerves are tough, so I understand why
Roy sweet spot is close. He throws moves to rack up damage to kill with sweet spot easier
Probably one of the worst matchups for Cap. Gets close just like he does but has more range options and kill power.
That last stock was like those matches that you have with friends that don't count
This is easily one of the best and most hype matchups in the game imo
Two awesome Ult players being commentated by two Melee legends. Can’t get better than this.
15:37 "...covered everything except roll to the right."
iykyk lol
best couch tbh.
Fantastic set. Spoilers below
It's gotta be rough running into a local bracket demon in bigger tourneys like this for Fatality. He feels like he's getting closer and closer every time though, his grind will get results eventually you can feel it.
M2k with the instant expert analysis of the interaction
Get up attack seems to be the worst choice at all times. Parrying and blocking get up attacks seems to be easier as the game progresses
the most cursed thing i've ever seen.
Fatality needs a secondary, he cant climb the competitive ladder if he keeps staying too loyal to Captain Falcon, i mean I respect that but you need another secondary for terrible matchups like Roy
He did officially(?) Say at one point he was gonna secondary Aegis but he seemingly dropped them since.
No he needs to switch his style against Kola. He could have reversed edge guard Kola a few times if he raptor boosted. I think it's a good tool to use in disadvantage.
He used to fuck Kola up. Kola just leveled up. I’m pretty sure this match up is even
@@ramongosling5309 mu is -1, even before he still struggled against roy, he had a moment where he figured out the roy mu but roy having a sword and speed matching falcon can make it oppressive. Also hard to edge guard roy up b off stage with falcon's moves
Well he drops them ones he has one. Mario & pyrtha/mythra
We need more Mewtwo king commentary.
Happy to see that Kendrick representation. Love my boy Kenny. and Smash. Glad to see the two together
Respect to the Mr Morale tag
Only Kola would pop off like that for winning game 1. 🤣
For some players winning the first game of a set gives them a massive confidence boost and overall enhance their gameplay.
Because it was a competitive first match
Because he was losing and was able to clutch it he can't pop off? What a terrible mindset
@@myoblivion420 But at the same time, he literally hasn't lost a set to Fatality in forever. It seems a little silly to get hyped up for beating him for the 90th time in a row. Love Kola, but it did seem a bit dumb.
@@calebw8189 Guess no one can be hype about anything these days if that is what your saying
7:04 - “Kola’s gonna bang on the table” LOLOLOL
That whole last game i dont think fatality landed with one safe option. Dude just would straight up nair right on kolas shield
"He's dead. Cuz Roy's WAY too strong!" -M2K 2023
Commentators talking about Armada and stuff until I realize they are M2K and HBX lmao
Kola is like saiyan the more you hurt him the more dangerous he gets 🤣
But damn that story about his dreads being cut by accident is tragic 💀
Love seeing HBox & M2King commentate ultimate!
"You fool!" I hereby deem thee legendary
JFC…. That combo to end the stock. HYPE. Dair at the top platform to a friggin up smash??? 💣
Por que los cortes de espada de roy suenan como si fueran golpes con bates?
Why does this look like it was filmed in like a 80's prno.
It's hilarious that the characters with fire like abilities are always the most entertaining to watch.
The electricians are not far behind, for KAZUYA MISHIMA
Red pikmin?
Lets play a drinking game. Drink every time Jason says "That's so strong."
This is a big brother little brother matchup. As long as Kola is serious he’ll never lose the set. It’s sucks to see but it is what it is.
Also what the heck where the up throws from Fatality for? I’m genuinely curious…… looks like a terrible option.
Kola knows the matchup well and Dthrow on Roy doesnt lead to anything if it is DI'd correctly in a lot of situations. With up throw he at least gets a juggle opportunity, there may be some frametrap with up air after at zero too (notice they were usually at zero or low percent). Thats probably the thought process.
Honestly when you have an opponent that schools you this regularly like this you kinda have to experiment and try to throw him off.
We need more sets like this with Hbox and M2K commentary who's with me?
Kola *pushes a button*
Commentator: thats so strong
Just a reminder...there IS another guy playing the game!!! Not just Fatality....smh
The white guy in the match naming himself Mr Morale lmfao
In addition to everyone (rightly) commenting on fatality's mindset and neutral, one small point that I really don't understand is his usage of u-throw. It pretty much cost him that last game and gets nothing from it. He could have at least got an u-air of nair from d-throw and pushed roy closer to the ledge.
4:48キャラへの理解深すぎるな
How do people look at Roy and say "yea, he should gave all these kill options at low percentages and still be fair af." Nerf him already
His recovery sucks
@@igotthemunchies7292 lol not the worst recovery. specially when you can use up Bs for guarantees in other situations. Roy is busted and everyone knows it. I'm just amazed y he hasn't been nerfed, so many players have picked him up because he so easily exploitable.
so many people play roy but only one gets results lmfao just give kola his flowers already and stop crying. roy falcon is slight roy at most kola is just an insane player.
Damn fatality played so poorly this set, more so than usual vs kola. Whiffing so many combos, doing random dthrows, and playing so scared in general
why do they keep saying goblin?
I’m not here to say fatality is better than kola or anything but I can confidently say Roy > falcon. At least in this match up.
Final combo great!!!
This guy fatality will die by his aggression. You know, if he can master patient falcon and combine it with his overly aggressive falcon he'd be a beast. And all he wants to do is neutral air all day, to knee. Falcon in this iteration of smash isn't meant to be played like he plays him. You have to utilize every move in his arsenal.
Some things never change 🤣
can we get M2K to be headliner commentator?
feel like fatality is chasing perfection, you never catch the dragon, you only chase it for as long as you can. falcon doesnt have a sword or tough guy into s, doesnt even have a proper shield poke... to make all that worse, he doesnt have a ranged grab to make up for all that. maybe more coke will give fatality bullet time.
i said this in smash 4 roy is cpt falcon of swordies...but straight up BD jeez
Does Fatality ever beat Kola?
M2k def has a touch of the tisim
Why do they call perfect block a parry, blocking is not the same as parry. Parry is when you deviate the attack to then counter attack. I thought parry in smash was when 2 attacks clashed and canceled each other. Its p block geezus
roy is so hard to punish
M2k and hbox commentating ultimate is awesome
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Kola use down smash LIKE EVER
same Lol until recently he has been using it as combo mixup in nair chains because roy down smash comes out surprisingly fast
That last part of set 3 wow
"you fool!"-MTK lololol
"Roy's DAir sucks" *wins with DAir*
17:17 beautiful
I firmly believe at a certain skill level some matchups are borderline impossible to win. Cpt Falcon vs Roy is one of those.
Just because one falcon player consistently gets demolished by one Roy player doesn't mean the matchup is impossible. If Leo picked up Falcon I guarantee you he'd get Ws off of Roy players
The matchup is even or maybe slightly winning for roy and kola is just better than fatality
why he called kola globin a thousand times XD
i understand the purpose of up b-ing each time but as a roy player it would even annoy me to constantly do it
Fatality be pissing me off with these over extensions
first set was epic
Fatality with patience is scary
He definitely started slowing down within the past couple months. He's still evolving his play.
ggs, no chesse falcons allowed fr, nice set kola
I hate M2K commentary, this dude is legit just trying to correct everything hungry box is saying, or just talking about how roy is op. They aint even saying anything about the good combos they hittin...
15:36 so not everything
The only way fatality will win this matchup is gimping and cheesing and running. It is not pretty, but it works. Fatality has too many disadvantages to Roy. Evading and Spacing is one of the Godly tactics.
kola vs fatality is 23-9 for Kola
That last ko tho
everyone i love is here 😃
I don't think Fatality has taken a set off of Kola in Ultimate ever...
Wrong, he’s taken multiple sets off kola, even one at a major
Not recently
@@-rainz4457 Can you provide proof? I know he's beaten Kola at one of the 4o4 local events
@@RiemannIntegral According to Kola vs Fatality Chart on PGStats: They are 23 - 9 on Kola's favor.
When was the last time fatality beat kola
🗣 get a pocket character
look kola play, and then look japanese play, like they play on slow mo .
GG Koal !
fatality is the only one airdodging
i don't like the 'put on a show' aspect
any pro should not ever get juggled
Falcon just can’t deal with the top tiers 🗑
Fatality only win vs big characters. Dk etc
i need hbox on EVERY VIDEO
We all know how this story goes , without even watching the video , lmao 😢 😂
No Falcon DTilts enough. That angle is actually disgusting... Myself included* so I'm not even talking shit.
Stubborn Fatality, learn a new character, it's becoming sad at this point.
Kola beat fatality so bad he plans on retiring
Fatality would not go to ledge that last game. Quit jumping to stage. So greedy. Why would you do that on the last game 2-2… everybody wants fatality to do well. He butchered his chances that last game