@@shikarixox1195 thing is he’s so good at bowser he can get away with playing bad matchups a lot of the time. My fav example of this is him vs MKLeo (greninja)
Webb you're making me speechless. Well done! I think that might have been the first time I saw webb (or any sheik at all) winning against Leons Bowser. Great stuff really!
It was he doing the IDJ upair，the IDJ upair will makes u land on that platform instantly，so u can do F tilt-double IDJ upair at early percent，u can also cross ur opponent for the di mixup at the very end of ur last upair，this sequence will leads u some early kill，I mean not very，but its Sheik…
WebbJP played very clean and consistent, and that won the day. Bowser isn't as fast or consistent as Sheik, so he shouldn't try to beat Sheik on that level. Instead, Bowser excels at reads and punishes. Leon needed several things here: 1. More mixups: Leon relied on his bread-and-butters too much here, and it made him predictable. He needed to mix things up to set up the next point: 2. Go for more reads: to win against Sheik, Bowser needs to take advantage of his power for some early kills, but that has to come off good reads. 3. Slow down in disadvantage: when WebJPP got to the end of a string, Leon would put out a panic get-off-me or landing option (e.g. up-b, dair, etc), but would whiff, then WebbJP would start up another string on the punish. Instead, Leon should have backed off and reset neutral, which would give him a better chance at an opening.
Huh bowser has shell armor or sum on the back of his utilt??? I was unaware of this Webb legit jus ftilted thru him and the utilt still went thru?? Someone explain and how many of his other tilts have armor like this?
because edgeguarding sheik is hard, she has a ton of mixups and it would be very risky for bowser, since giving up stage control in this matchup can be the last thing you do (just look at webb's edgeguarding sequences for reference), and if sheik uses up B from above the ledge it has full intangibility, which means it cannot be 2 framed (this applies to every teleport recovery), and webb used it to his advantage very expertly
You just can't edgeguard Sheik when she has any resource. She can reversal really easily, or you can just die to up-b. Also, webb knows that if you recover diagonally above ledge, you can't get 2framed.
*webb played phenomenally, but everybody here acting like bowser isn’t 100% complete combo food especially for such a quick character. webb knew the matchup was terrible and absolutely took advantage of that poor Leon it hurt so much watching him fight the inevitable lmao*
He needs to improve a lot he was mashing options like grab oos and upb cuz he was scared and didn’t know what else to resort to. Good looks on Webb tho bringing the character up on the tierlist
Every time I hear people like this call themselves "commentator", I cringe. The smash commentators be talking like, super casual. They just sound..... like some socially awkward people having a conversation
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Yo Webb is clean as hell.
"Maybe I'll need a secondary" - Leon, for the first time in his life
He has a hero, banjo, and bowser jr
@@ChinChin12142 TIL. Thanks!
@@ChinChin12142Good man, I see so few people who are aware Leon has whipped out at least 3 pocket characters.
@@shikarixox1195 thing is he’s so good at bowser he can get away with playing bad matchups a lot of the time. My fav example of this is him vs MKLeo (greninja)
Didn't he play Lucina as well? I genuinely thought he would try use her
Webb played absolutely immaculate. Insane stuff.
Webb you're making me speechless. Well done!
I think that might have been the first time I saw webb (or any sheik at all) winning against Leons Bowser.
Great stuff really!
Cant wait to see what this guy does at smash con
Amazing Set. Easily one of the best True Finals I have ever seen
It's honestly astounding how fluid Webb is able to play this character and make her seem easier to use than she actually is.
Great commentary. Professional and worked well as a team.
Dude, Webb, your Sheik is INSANE! Also, hate to see it end on a scare-dodge but I understand lol. GGs Both of you!
Bowser: Love can really make a guy come out of his shell 🐚
Peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches I looove yoooou!!!
Incredible execution and knowlege from webbjp. Great wins this tournament.
Webb doing what void couldn't in his time
Me when Webb beat sparg0
@@humouringgit’s funny cuz void also beat spargo
@@googlymooglyman I was making a joke that void has beaten spargo and Webb has not
7:15 Did anyone else notice the insane up air platform cancel here?!?!
That just a normal animation. No animation cancel. You can see it on slow-motion.
It was he doing the IDJ upair，the IDJ upair will makes u land on that platform instantly，so u can do F tilt-double IDJ upair at early percent，u can also cross ur opponent for the di mixup at the very end of ur last upair，this sequence will leads u some early kill，I mean not very，but its Sheik…
Dude this is a miracle
who was the first seed at this tourney? either way it was a banger!
I miss his Lucas. Great job Webb
Been playing sheik for a couple of years and i just found out about the sideb extension lmaoooooooooooooooooo
10:09
Bro I swear to god you said
“‘A-Sexually’ perfect all night”
Love the voice of LyricOfWisdom
What is that sheik off edge coverage? Wtf
30:10 he couldn’t grab ledge because there is a small window after you get hit where you can’t grab ledge
Where did this guy come from?!?!? Webb🎉🎉🎉😮
Who woulda thought
Great commentary
WebbJP played very clean and consistent, and that won the day.
Bowser isn't as fast or consistent as Sheik, so he shouldn't try to beat Sheik on that level. Instead, Bowser excels at reads and punishes. Leon needed several things here:
1. More mixups: Leon relied on his bread-and-butters too much here, and it made him predictable. He needed to mix things up to set up the next point:
2. Go for more reads: to win against Sheik, Bowser needs to take advantage of his power for some early kills, but that has to come off good reads.
3. Slow down in disadvantage: when WebJPP got to the end of a string, Leon would put out a panic get-off-me or landing option (e.g. up-b, dair, etc), but would whiff, then WebbJP would start up another string on the punish. Instead, Leon should have backed off and reset neutral, which would give him a better chance at an opening.
I think if leon would've used more nairs before the reset he would've had had a better chance
I've never seen a guy master trading as sheik...sheik always loses trades but he found a way to make it
Work
Huh bowser has shell armor or sum on the back of his utilt??? I was unaware of this Webb legit jus ftilted thru him and the utilt still went thru?? Someone explain and how many of his other tilts have armor like this?
All of his tilts have a little bit of armor
Bowser has a perk called big guy (If I remember right) where he wont flinch and can attack through moves that dont deal enough damage
22:36 I-Is that actually true?
Yes☠️ Works on di out too and Sheik can reverse it if she runs out of stage
@@Dia2BI should keep that in mind lol
At 7:06???? Wha???
Yup. Bowser is heavy. Even multi jab don't work on bowser. Also f-tilt as well. If bowser use any movement.
Yup. Bowser is heavy. Even multi jab don't work on bowser. Also f-tilt as well. If bowser use any movement.
Yup. Bowser is heavy. Even multi jab don't work on bowser. Also f-tilt as well. If bowser use any movement.
Why isn’t Leon trying to 2-frame him at all?
Void could never
Shiek should've just went ahead and saved Hyrule on "his" own.
Good game! Great Commentary!
Why does leon refuse to go offstage
and wasn’t trying to get 2 frame! i don’t know man
Bowser can edgeguard pretty well, but Sheik is super slippery offstage. She can reversal you easily if you mess up offstage.
because edgeguarding sheik is hard, she has a ton of mixups and it would be very risky for bowser, since giving up stage control in this matchup can be the last thing you do (just look at webb's edgeguarding sequences for reference), and if sheik uses up B from above the ledge it has full intangibility, which means it cannot be 2 framed (this applies to every teleport recovery), and webb used it to his advantage very expertly
@@Sooth0 makes sense. Thought I saw a couple run off forward air openings. But he’s the pro player, not me
You just can't edgeguard Sheik when she has any resource. She can reversal really easily, or you can just die to up-b. Also, webb knows that if you recover diagonally above ledge, you can't get 2framed.
Leon should reconsider career jesus christ like f a 2 grabs and there goes a stock
The female announcer called the grenade kill clean. 👌🏾
he played sheik perfectly
*webb played phenomenally, but everybody here acting like bowser isn’t 100% complete combo food especially for such a quick character. webb knew the matchup was terrible and absolutely took advantage of that poor Leon it hurt so much watching him fight the inevitable lmao*
Webb’s Shiek is so clean and exciting to watch
real
Leon needs to improve his edgeguarding
Shiek is too fast. Thats why Bowser hold shield. Its difficult for sheik to get back on stage when Bowser hold his shield. Big shield can be annoying.
He needs to improve a lot he was mashing options like grab oos and upb cuz he was scared and didn’t know what else to resort to. Good looks on Webb tho bringing the character up on the tierlist
To be fair it might be because Sheik's up b is not 2 framable when done above the platform
webb can juggle due to going against large opponent only reason why he won matches.
Doing combos on bowser is expected. Why are ppl impressed
Every time I hear people like this call themselves "commentator", I cringe. The smash commentators be talking like, super casual. They just sound..... like some socially awkward people having a conversation