Power Wheels 12 Volt to 24 Volt Conversion
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2016
- Watch to see the difference adding a 12 volt battery can make to a Power Wheels car when you wire it in series with the original 12 volt battery. A 24 volt Power Wheels is pretty fast. I do not suggest that anyone try this at home, this video is for your entertainment only.
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FYI for anyone in the future doing this.. the entire center section is removable and contains all the factory wiring all the way from batter to pedal. You can use this same space and only need to drill trough the firewall to the front compartment.
I thought as much. His wire route is very poor but it does the same job but is definitely not right.
Watching your kids have fun must be a blessing the smile on your face warmed my heart..
I just bought my son a UTV for his 3rd birthday this coming June 1st. This video definitely inspired me. He will love for it to go faster.
How'd the up grade on your sons utv work out? I got the 12v utv for my daughter. It came with 2, 12v 7ah batteries but wired as a 12v battery. The utv is super slow i really want to wire these batteries in series . I was just worried I ight blow the esc or motors. Any luck with getting your sons to run 24 volt?
Organic Oceans hey. I got a friend of mine to upgrade it to 24 volt. My son love it! You should definitely try it.
My dad strapped a car battery to ours...held it with a belt....good times. Cool to see parents still making these fun for their kids :)
bro i did that just yesterday with a belt and its so much fun
My Dad stuck a car battery in a Barbie corvette back in the 90s for my nephew! It was crazy fast.. I think it was 6 volt to start with
Thanks for sharing! The comparison is awesome and well worth the price! Can't wait to convert mine for my twin boys!!!
You need to have a 24 volt motor to go with the battery. If the motor is 12 volt then it will burn out with a 24 volt battery after awhile.
@bibliata even if he just has 2 separate 12 volt batteries the motor will still burn out if he is running both batteries on a motor that is only 12 volt. So I don't know how he did it.
@bibliata ok because I have a power wheels that I got for free because someone cut the battery wires and it is missing the battery but I believe it does have a 12v motor in it.
I was going to strip the ends of the wires inside of the power wheels that are cut and use alligator clips to connect to the stripped ends and the other end clip to a 12v battery terminal and see if it works. I could probably use two 12v batteries and do what he did in this video, but I am afraid that a 12v motor will burn out if I use two 12v= 24v battery.
really enjoyed your video , its great having kids living in the country , im the same , so much fresh air and less bad stuff they see , well done
Looking forward to buying 2 of these next week. I'll update how it goes!
Update: Success!! This racer is super #$&! fast now! We purchased a new one so we were able to run the wiring a little smoother. But thanks for the video, would have been lost without the wiring instructions.
Informative and includes a comparison video, feel like I'm letting my kids down by not upgrading their battery
So the Batteries are Wired in Series?
They Are Having So Much More FUN!!
We Are Going to Try it at Home! Thanks for the Video!
Old dogs can learn new tricks. You don't have no electricity experience background, and you nail it battery series just right. Great job.👍👍👍👍
And what you do when is time to charge the batterys? Like normal you just plug in? Does it take longer since you have to charge two?
Clean Install, we will be at Knowledge Fest Thank you for the content
Thank you for sharing how you did this. I’m planning to give it a try.
Love it. I'm doing this to my kids cars as well. The 6 volt really Flys with 12 volts on it.
Most impressed. I picked up a 12v scooter the other day and it has one of those generic motors. Then I had an idea. The controller does just about nary so what about 24v and 2 speed switch. Many thanks for doing the hard yards I shall now get stuck in.
i have this same powerwheels car for my son! i am doing this upgrade this weekend@ awesome! he will love it
How did he like it
I just bought an 18v battery n it worked perfectly. Good vid 👍
I’ve watched this video at least 3 times since I bought my son his power wheel. I think I’m ready to finally convert it!
The kids had a blast on it.
Thanks for the great info. I have trouble visualizing circuits too!
Too darn cute. Just bought my boy one for Christmas and assembling it now. Just taking a break to see more of what it can do with some tinkering.
Wow awsome speed. Wish i go back in time n rise such thing. I have one question. I have 12 v battery powered atv ride on. It has one geqrbox, but on the other wheel there is a lot left to install another gearbox if in wish, whats the difference between having one 12 volt gear box or two gearboxes of 12 v each installed on each of the rear wheels?
Thanks. Getting my 2 and 4 yr old boys this for Christmas. Will eventually be upgrading like this, video saved! Great job with this, very helpful.
Holy cow what a difference great video 👍🏼
gonna try this 12 volt to 18 volt.......do you a way a clearer pic of connection in back......thanks.(not an eletriction either)
Nice job. Nothing wrong with taking the time to think through the problem.
I was curious where you got that small interstate battery and charger? And how many amps is it?
Like your truth of having to process s-l-o-w-l-y. Very humble. Lord bless you.
Jose Jimenez makes it sound like even a guy like me can do it
Good Job, Man! Thanks for the idea!
Thanks for the video bud, you did a great job. I bet the kids love riding around on that faster car. Just my two cents, if you use some old timing belts and glue or screw em In the middle of the plastic wheels the wheels will last a very long time
Old bike tires.
Just buy some rubber air up dolly wheels they cost about $12 each
And you gave em a track! Daaang that's cool.
Yeah watching this I may in fact be a failure as dad if I don’t mod my sons Yamaha raptor from 12v to 24v. Thanks for the inspiration!!!!
Put a helmet on him it will be too fast
You are awesome dad! Thank you for sharing.
Jeff, you are a crazy ma..., in a good way! I'm sure your kids appreciate that.
Haha, thanks Ron, yea the kids appreciate it sometimes.
Jeff Furr any solution for the blown 30amp fuse?
Get a circuit breaker instead that resets automatically.
Hello, do you need to change a motor? The original motor is only 12 volts. When you make it 24 volts, how can the motor take the twice-high voltage? Is the motor take both 12 and 24 volts?
Thank you for the video!
WARNING!!! You forgot the fuse!MUST install an in line fuse!!! I've modded many powerwheels and depending on the motor and gear box ratio some motors and wires get hotter than others but they all get really really HOT after 24v conversions because all the wiring is 12 AWG size wire rated for a max of 30AMP constant current draw before a melt down can occur and those batteries will draw rite at 28/29amps at 24 volts. Stay safe by installing the 30AMP inline fuse between the positive and negative connections of the two batteries ran in series or you WILL eventually melt the wires and some have even caught fire! So you MUST install the fuse. A few additional things to NOTE! If upgrading to 24v, DO NOT try to add more traction because the gears are plastic and will strip if theres to much grip or resistance. Due to faster rpms the brushes in the motors burn up a lot faster but can find new motors online as well as other upgrades. I recommend not getting any 12v SLA batteries over 9ah that will be wired in series. I've found that if you were to install two 12v 12ah batteries the initial current load tends to surpass 30amps and constantly blows the fuses. Also, its not good for the battery (life) to be powered in series if the battery specs are rated different (as done in this video). It tends to shorten battery cells of the smaller rated battery so batteries should match.
1) So you're saying 2 12v 9.5ah batteries(matching the stock battery),
2) Can you clarify if the fuse goes here: www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/eybcwj/in_progress_powerwheels_upgrade/
3)I am planning on adding a significant counterweight to the front so we have more traction and prevent wheelies but would that matter for a person who is 175 pounds?
@@sriramneravati5048 1) Yes and No it depends on how they are wired together. 2)12v/9,5ah batteries wired in parallel will increase the ah (amp hour) to 19ah wich means the battery will just last longer for more riding time. Or, 2)12v/9,5ah wired in series increases the volts to 24v/9,5ah which means the more volts the faster it goes.
2)If wired in Parallel you technically dont need a fuse. Just wire the batteries positive to positive and the negative to negative. For PowerWheels white wire is power (+) and the black wire is ground(-) so you'd connect the white motor whire to the positive side of one of the batteries and the black motor wire to the negative side of the second battery. If wired in series, you will need to add a 30amp inline fuse connecting the positive of one battery to the negative of the second battery. Then connect the white motor wire to the available positive terminal and the black motor wire to the available negative terminal of second battery.
3)Its ok to add some weight to the front for better grip but keep in mind they are mostly plastic so over time the front wheel hubs will lean inward. However, It is better to add some other means of grip to front tires for more traction rather than adding more weight. For example the rubber from a bicycle tire inner tube or even swaping out the front tires with actual rubber tires works best. Most powerwheels wont tip nor do wheelies unless your an adult sitting on the very back of the machine. The 24v conversion will just spin the rear tires untill it picks up momentum. The rear plastic tires just wont grip enough to pop wheelies before you strip out the plastic gears inside the gearbox. Thats why I stated in my original post its best to not add grip to rear tires. Besides its way more fun to have the rear tires spin because then you can do donuts, drift corners and even do figure 8 pattern burnouts. They are a blast for kids to drive once modified!!! Hope all that helps. Enjoy!
@@yourlips_myassah the diagram I drew was of batteries in series though.
@@sriramneravati5048 yah thats how to wire for 24v conversion
@@yourlips_myassah Thanks for the reply, also yes I am a 6'1" adult planning on making one of these. I found a website where I can get 36V batteries, Metal gearboxes for the car. I live on a very hilly campus and my friend and I are trying to ride up and down the hills. We are planning on putting a little bit rubber on the front wheels and maybe even the back because we will have metal gearboxes.
Hey don't feel bad I am the same way and you are far ahead of me, because you have done it and here is the video. Thank you.
Where did you connect the in line fuse?
To find your speed with distance and time: V=d/t so V=(85)/10.9 And V=(85)/6.05. V= 7.80 and 14.05. Then convert Velocity to speed. S=V/1.466 S=7.80/1.466 and S=14.05/1.465. S=5.32 MPH S=9.58 for an increase of 4.26MPH.
What ever nerd
Speed/velocity doesn't equal HP though. This is why some vehicles have a MPH limit on their speedometer even when compared to other vehicles of the same HP and engine type and size and all else being equal.
I did 5280/85= 62.1176470588 x seconds to course completion. Then from there I had time to complete a mile. I divided 60 by this outcome to get mph
Do you charge each battery apart or you keep the batteries in serie to charge it?
Não há danos elétricos com a voltagem em dobro nos motores?
I'm going to do this conversion too after I make it look like the bat mobile. I added bicycle off road tires since the plastic was wearing thin. Better grip now
Wholesome video and awesome upgrade 👌
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Very good video, thanks for sharing!
Your struggle is understanding series vs parallel, one way will still give you 12v but double the life but hooking neg to positive on second will give you 24v. UA-cam has some great videos for understanding basic electrical.
If you do the way that keeps it at 12 volts, will that help give any extra power too? Or no none just last longer? I am like this guy, and my 6 yr old and 4 yr old ride together and have growed since battery died in theirs. Iv been watching g does for months trying to decide what to do that can give them more power, that won't strip it out!
@@leahrodriquez1349 No, more volts (pressure) allows more current (amps) which gives more power (watts).
Power equation: Power (W) = Volts x Amps.
example: 12 volts x 9 amps = 108 watts. In a series circuit, voltage adds up, in a parallel circuit, voltage stays the same. In order for more current to flow, you need more voltage.
example 2: 24v x 9 a = 216 watts. Watts is a measurement of work accomplished in the means of heat or mechanical movement.
In parallel circuit, amperage adds up instead of voltage.
I hope this helped.
@@Crusader143d a very easy way to do what was done in this video with few or no issues is to simply replace the 12 v motor with a 24 v and then connect the two 12 v batteries the way he showed. Otherwise if you leave the 12 v motor then it will eventually burn out if you are trying to use 24 v battery in tandem.
Really nice, 👍🏽👍🏽you gotta keep it fun for the kids... 🔋🔋
What Amp battery are you using and how long would the 18 volt last on a full charge?
Best Dad Ever!
When you charge it do you chage it all together or individually???
Great video, good explaining...greetings from mexico...
What is best way to revert back? I found a green buggie on my street no one wanted to trash for free pick up and they had it hot wired for 2 batteries. Trying to go slower for my daughter’s 1st hot wheel
How long before the gear box broke? I’ve tried metal gears and still burn through them at 24v. 18v is a little easier on the gear boxes but still breaks a cog eventually.
Amazon, or ml toys.....use a brake reduction module, its put in line by brake pedal. No hard stopping, this is what kills your 1st gear teeth. Big improvement on gears!
Thanks man you're awesome did the same thing to mines
Excellent job
Hey mr. how has this held up since you’ve done it ?
How’s the length of the charge last after conversion?
Did you add the 30amp Fuse?
Thanks for the advice man
About how long did the motor last?
Based on the video, it looks like you didn't include the inline fuse Box (I couldn't see it wired when you showed both batteries and the underside of the vehicle). When you did install the fuse, did you experience blown fuses when the faster speed was engaged? If so, how did you resolve?
Did you remove the circuit breaker in the power wheel battery?
Long story short, ours works in low speed, but once we push the gear shift forward, it rides for a second and then fuse blows.
It really depends on how much current/ampere your particular car/motors pull. I've personally never blown one at 18 volts with the fuse that came with them. You might want to try taking off the inline fuse, put some load on the car, drive it around with a multi-meter on it, and see what the current draw is. Otherwise you might need to find out the motor used and consult the spec sheets.
Thank you so much. My boys have the same car and wants it to go faster.
Very cool + fun. Good Job 👍
Where did u place the fuse?
Shout out to all the dads trying to make their kids power wheels faster right now haha
Since you connected the extra battery in series to gain speed, would wiring the battery in parallel give longer running time as opposed to increased speed? Thanks, L
View Accounts yes, you should get a lot more running time
it seems like actual fun now
Ashmeed Mohammed yes the kids love going fast
How long did the motor and board last?
Does this have an impact on the circuit or the motor? I am assuming your connecting 24v to 12v motor?
You owe Dominique toretto that 6 second car😂😂🤦♂️
This is the same set up for my wee girls big 2 seater megastar Rocket Quattro 12v, as it has two 6v batterys wired up same way your diagram says. So in theory I should be able to stick 2 12v battery & it would work but I think this would blow the Motor, especially if you did not use another fuse. I think I would just wire another battery to run the lights & radio on NY kids car. That would in turn make let the Motor run in a full 12v. 🤔 I might try that. As the thing has lights every where, even on the wheels 🙈. Cool little buggy & it defo was speeded up for sure. Much faster second run. ✌
How did your gear boxes hold up? I only got about an hour or so out of ours before one of the gear boxes took a dump... Time to upgrade to 775 motors with steel gears.
They have a website you can order metal gear boxes exact replica of the plastic ones
I am doing this for my little sister because our yard is very sandy and is at a slant so it makes it difficult for it to even go and I thought u might like my idea of finding a way to replace the tires so that they aint that hard plastic and actually get some traction
Jason Williams that's a great idea, I need to find some rubber tread for these tires.
I'm quite happy with this thing without the upgrade. My biggest challenge is finding a spacious, safe and comfortable place to use it with the kids. I'm trying to avoid the beach because of sand issues. Anyone know if there are parks that allow these types of toys to be used?
I would add caulking to the tire treads for better traction on pavement. Maybe just in the rear...
Thoughts?
Wide tight Rubber bands
Nice job!
Good work!!
What a great dad !!! ❤❤
Thanks for sharing , enjoyed this video a lot!
My kid's car is 12V. Is it possible to replace that 12V car with a 24V battery? Since the motors in the 12V car are 12V motors and lighting systems, is it okay to install a 24V battery instead?
What a lovely video. "He kissed me" that comment and moment was so cute .
I'm currently upgrading my boys Lambo I've changed out the 13K rpm motors for 30K rpm ones and it's now moving at a fast jog speed from a fast walk speed.
It's currently 12 volts but I've just ordered another 12 volt battery to convert it into 24v and hoping to upload it to UA-cam.
Thanks for you post I enjoyed the whole thing 👍
Thank you so much, I appreciate that
How long did it go before you frayed your motor?
I want to use my Kobalt 24v drill batteries in my kids power wheels. How long did your motor last? It's been some time now...but I'd really like to know how long the motor held up
Was wondering the same thing
Awesome job dad
Heaven& Earth thank you, I appreciate that. Thank you for watching
Good Job Sir, I need to ask u about the 30A fuse, where did u fix it??
Always goes in line of the positive as close to the battery as possible
@@HamBone86 but theres 2 batteries
@@spacebound2195 then you will need two fuses, one for each battery
Where did you put the 30 amp inline fuse . ?
Be careful the pedal switch won't handle it in the long run it will stick wide open
Awesome video
Good job, taking your time and making sure everything is done right and SAFE is nothing to be ashamed of, if more folks took their time with mapping out how to do their electrical fixes there would be a lot less injuries. If you are thinking of other mods, those SLA batteries can be fast charged with up to 10-12 amps safely. Therefore, you can use an automatic battery charger for a car. I like the automatic chargers that sense 6 or 12 volt and switch to float (trickle charge) once the batteries are charged to prevent overcharging.
It is much faster to charge up the batteries than with those trickle chargers at .5 amp to 2 amps.
So everything is stock power wheels except for the extra battery hooked up in series?
Yes, everything is the same except the extra battery
Just curious i have the same exact 12 V car and want to do the same conversion. Since you did the conversion is the car running well as in the engine hasn't overheated? thanks
Cobey Huish we haven’t had any issues with the two motors getting hot but the right side motor did strip a gear. I’m pretty sure that if my kids had of taken turns riding in the car, the tires could have broke traction when needed and it would still be running as it should. The problem was all three kids tried to ride together and with all the weight it couldn’t break traction or lunge forward so the gear gave way. Looking for a replacement gear or motor for that now. I’m gonna keep it boosted to 24 volts and make them ride one at a time.
People throw these away all the time when the battery dies. I found mine on the curb. Also look at "free" items on Craigslist and also do a search with max price at like $25-$50 and many will turn up there!
r the motors still holding up?
Mine got smoked after 5 minutes. Going to order a 24v motor
@@tristannolan85 how much would a 24 volt motor cost though? At some point it's gonna end up costing you more than it's worth.
I wired mine with an inline 30 amp fuse and it runs when i push throttle by hand but as soon as i sit in it the fuse blows after pushing the throttle. Is this due to the fact that i used 16 gauge wire instead of 12 gauge.
I really am not sure of what would cause that. I know very little about electricity and when I have issues, I can usually fix the problem but I have to ask someone that knows a little more than me to guide me in the right direction
It still work good want do this with my sons
Where’s the second battery located?
But does it outlast ? Riding time is what we have trouble with.
You're a good dad.
Thanks Mike
Jeff Furr how long did the motor last?
Justin Wright sorry for the delay on this message, the motors are still running strong, only issue was the right side motor stripped a gear due to all three of my youngest kids riding at the same time. To much power from take off with too much weight.
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The Furrminator did you replace the gears? If so where did you get them?
hey Jeff, for the inline fuse wire, where in the diagram does it fit into?
Halzton Verdida I added the fuse in the front near the new battery, it's on the wire leading back to the motors
The Furrminator so you added the fuse to the negative on the front battery?
@@TheMelMan215 Most Power Wheels cars I've seen come with an inline fuse going to positive (because negative is ground/the return path).
I did modify my kids power wheels Jeep with 2 x 12W 12 AH battery. But every time my kid rides the Jeep fuse goes of. What should I do?
I’m using 30amps fuse.
Replace all the wiring with larger, replace the switches with higher rated, and replace the motor - then use a 50 amp fuse. Anything else is setting your kid in a fire trap.
How well has it help up? Has the motors burned up or is it doing well? Thanks.
Robert Romaine I too wonder tits. that's why I only bumped mine to 18v.
joe, did 18 volts make a big difference? I'm about to upgrade my son's 4 wheeler and was thing about doing the 18 volt upgrade.....
Chris Crews 18v was definitely the way to go. 24v burned those motors out in days. 18v is pretty good bump in speed, and definitely the most reliable.
Joe Ghelarducci Thanks for the reply guys. I bought my son a used Jeep hurricane last month. I am fixing to do the 18v upgrade. From what I have read, anything more than that, you need to upgrade motors and gears.
motors are good for 18v because they can handle 15v to 18v .the way to go is 18 and also is way safer.
Rhino liner or herculiner spray on the tires will give it traction, you may need to reapply every other week but that's what I did with my son's jeep, it definitely moves on tarmac, it slips every now and then but it's better than just plastic
Good Job Sir
ADIL ALTAF thank you and thanks for watching
How do you charge the battery