My late Mom always had a deep hatred for Frost long. Her being so arrogant and betraying Sub-Zero since Deadly Alliance. She held that grudge from DA all the way to her appearance in Mortal Kombat X lol. And to MK11 and the recent MK1 if she was still here. 🥴🤣
Frost was a cool character, no pun attended, during the Deadly Alliance, Deception & Armageddon era compared to what happened to her during Mortal Kombat X and Mortal Kombat 11. I do hope that if they do bring her back for MK 1 instead of as a cameo character that they do her justice.
I like Frost, at least as much as I can "like" such an underdeveloped character. She's unfortunately very one-note. And that wouldn't bother me THAT much if she ever got to do anything cool in canon, but she always loses humiliatingly in story mode--even in her ladder endings. But I still root for her to have a moment to shine in the future.
I wonder if Kuai Liang being this timelines Scorpion will have any effect on Scorpion. Because originally it was Kuai Liang that she obsessed over. So I wonder if she will still be obsessed with him. It could maybe even change her into a better character. But not certain how that would turn out
Maybe if Frost is part of a dlc in the main timeline, she might end up being a good character. Just like what they did with the new versions of Baraka, Tanya and Millenna. Maybe keeping her pride and arrogance in her abilities, but it's now more along the lines of Kung Lao's. And, she could actually succeed in wrestling control over the Lin Kuei from Bi- Han and bring it back to the side of Earth realms protecters.
In my school vr game, she was the one who froze Goalius, so Exodus shatters him to get his brain for Project Onaga she did actually died as she was killed by Scorpion which crippled the Cyber Lin Que badly
Man I watched you back in 2017 with your first round of lore with everyone, all I can say is you opened a door for me to discover my love for the lore in games and shows, gotta say man nothings more perfect then a little while of learning about what you love to play and watch,
Facts cause they are consistent in their thirst for power. I also think it is funny cause in either MKX or MK11 (I can't remember), Bi Han as Noob Saibot said he would never let a woman into the Lin Kuei.
I clicked on my notifications, took a glance and clicked off. Then it registered you posted another of one of my favorite series on UA-cam. Had to come and check it out.
It would be interesting to see a version of Frost who's had her ego stoked by Bi Han. Building her up as a superior to Kuai due to their shared Cryomantic abilities as opposed to the Fire/Ice that they had as brothers and acting as his enforcer, potentially outranking even Sektor and Cyrax. Obviously, still give her a chip on her shoulder about being held back, since Bi Han would never willingly let her supplant him as Grandmaster, but it would be interesting if her potential betrayal result in her being framed as a protagonist rather than an antagonist
Hey History! Love the videos man, Can you maybe cover the hostility between the Cantaurian and Shokan resurfacing? In some character interactions they mention it (Sindel) Along with Kitana’s ending showing Motaro fighting for her as the Shokan are fighting for Shao. I think it’ll be very interesting that In this timeline it’s a faction war that causes hostility as it may show in the upcoming story expansion.
I can always remember watching the video intro for Deadly Alliance where Shang Tsung and Quan Chi kill Liu Kang and who they thought was Shao Kahn and thinking “Wow these graphics are absolutely amazing and it’s one hell of a jump up in graphics, animation and all round content when compared to MK4”. MK4 has gone on to be my least favourite Mortal Kombat game of all time even thinking at the time when I got MK4 on the N64 that it wasn’t as good as UMK3 on my SNES, so when I got Deadly Alliance on the PS2 I was just blown away by how much of an improvement it was to MK4
I think Frost is the offspring of Bi Han and Serena and Kuai Liang secretly knows this which was why Kuai Liang was super lenient to Frost despite her countless attempts to murder him and usurpe his clan. It's probably his niece.
I doubt that’s true, but I take Bi Han and Tanya as a couple over Tanya and Mileena. Seriously, I never liked the idea of Tanya and Mileena being a thing, felt very random to me.
In MK Origins: Sub-Zero, it is stated that Bi Han and Kuai Liang had a third sibling, a younger sister who has never been mentioned again. It’s always been my personal head canon that Frost is that long lost sister.
I am probably one of the only people that thought Frost becoming a cyborg was actually cool. I liked her gameplay and I liked her design. The only problem I had with it was her lack of story. I think it would have better if she had disbanded from the Lin Kuei after Kuai Liang made amends with Hanzo. Found one a hidden Cyber Initiative base, cyberized herself to become stronger and more powerful than Sub-Zero, started rebuilding the cyber Lin Kuei potentially even being the creator of Triborg, and becomes the new Grandmaster of the Tekunin all without Kronika's help. This would of been the reason why she had Frost join her army because she did all that by herself, with Kronika only upgrading Frost and her Cyborgs.
I too like Frost as a cyborg. I really like how she differs from Sub Zero, being able to use Cryomancy in her own way while blending with robotic abilities. I couldn’t come up with a better way for Frost, and I’m glad she’s a cyborg in MK11. If Frost simply stays good, she wouldn’t be any different than Sub Zero. In terms of being a villain, I didn’t mind her role being small, and not all bad guys have to be main antagonists.
@@BlazerK1914 I agree entirely, I'm not sure how they will utilize in the new timeline since she would be very similar to be Bi-Han. Maybe he'll be like a father figure to her and she'll constantly be seeking for his approval. I can see her kinda being like a Azula from Avatar, wanting to be the strongest Cryomancer and be his heir.
I can think of a better successor for Sub-Zero.. It's Hydro.. He can be a much better disciple than Frost.. Think about it he can manipulate three powers and that's Water, Ice, and Electricity..
Man she takes one step toward to becoming better to two steps back to being an obsessed punk. Hopefully we get more development. Cyber version was definitely a cool edition.
Frost to me was a contrast to other student characters to their mentors (like Takeda to Hanzo), since she intends to betray her mentor Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang, as opposed to fully adopt his teachings. She was interesting to play as in MK11 and her pre-battle dialogue was funny to listen to. I’m not opposed to seeing Frost return to the New Era.
All jokes aside Frost is really a cool chick. I liked her some of her skins in MK11 with the short non spiky hairstyle, the only thing I didn’t like was her being a partial cyber ninja, I much prefer her as a human from the 3D era and MK One kameo. If Frost was to be a later DLC character I’d like to see her remain human but change her outfit and for some skins she has her short MK11 hairstyle and her traditional spiky hairstyle for others as I’m sure there is some MK fans who like her traditional spiky hairstyle
Make Frost a member of the Shirai Ryu but become annoyed of Kuai Liangs teachings, leading to her defecting from the group. Have her join the Lin Kuei where she gives the secrets of the Shirai Ryu to Bi Han in exchange for a higher role and authority. Maybe make her a general or teacher so the Lin Kuei become even deadlier. Bi Han and Frost get along well due similar personalities, mutual hate for Kuai and Cryomancy.
I hope they make a better go of her in the next one. Besides the creative decision to turn her into a cyborg, they also made her ugly; she used to be pretty; but now she’s made to look like King Joffrey from GoT🤦🏻♀️ P.S. Frost is a real sad case: she has a need for recognition and validation, that is almost exclusively driving her need for power. That’s why she’s so reckless and impatient to attain it. And, by asserting her power so recklessly and forcefully, she repels the very people she wants to validate and recognize her. How can anything worthwhile be seen if one comes off as irritating, aggressive and confrontational? She confirmed that for me in her last ending, talking about never being dismissed again. Since she had no love in her life, this is what feeds her, and the way she goes about it has her in her own way and by the end of it, she goes without. Now you’ve got a feedback loop that will repeat until something gives🤷🏻♀️
I liked the cyborg angle in 11 but it should've been her own thing instead of being useless jobber #8 in the story. She definitely should've been part of the kombat kids & had a falling out with Sub Zero instead of "apprentice turns on master because....reasons, explicable only in intros"
I too like Frost as a cyborg. I really like how she differs from Sub Zero, being able to use Cryomancy in her own way while blending with robotic abilities. I couldn’t come up with a better way for Frost, and I’m glad she’s a cyborg in MK11. If Frost simply stays good, she wouldn’t be any different than Sub Zero. In terms of being a villain, I didn’t mind her role being small, and not all bad guys have to be main antagonists.
Best to Worst version of Frost MKDA Frost >>>>MKX Frost >>>>MK1 Frost (they need to fix her looks, I didn't like it at all, I didn't want her same model from MK11)>>>>MK11 Frost.
My beloved ice queen 🩵🩵🩵🩵
"Such wasted potential." - Kuai Liang
I always liked frost growing up she was a interesting character growing up in my opinion.
Her 3rd era was the best so far, wish she was playable in MKX because I did like the MKX comics
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My late Mom always had a deep hatred for Frost long. Her being so arrogant and betraying Sub-Zero since Deadly Alliance. She held that grudge from DA all the way to her appearance in Mortal Kombat X lol. And to MK11 and the recent MK1 if she was still here. 🥴🤣
Frost was a cool character, no pun attended, during the Deadly Alliance, Deception & Armageddon era compared to what happened to her during Mortal Kombat X and Mortal Kombat 11. I do hope that if they do bring her back for MK 1 instead of as a cameo character that they do her justice.
There is an intro between sub & shao that possibly mentions her. I think she might comeback in the dlc or mk13
I like Frost, at least as much as I can "like" such an underdeveloped character. She's unfortunately very one-note. And that wouldn't bother me THAT much if she ever got to do anything cool in canon, but she always loses humiliatingly in story mode--even in her ladder endings. But I still root for her to have a moment to shine in the future.
Always enjoyed your work. It’s comforting and insightful. Could you do Claudio at some point?
I wonder if Kuai Liang being this timelines Scorpion will have any effect on Scorpion. Because originally it was Kuai Liang that she obsessed over. So I wonder if she will still be obsessed with him. It could maybe even change her into a better character. But not certain how that would turn out
Maybe if Frost is part of a dlc in the main timeline, she might end up being a good character. Just like what they did with the new versions of Baraka, Tanya and Millenna.
Maybe keeping her pride and arrogance in her abilities, but it's now more along the lines of Kung Lao's.
And, she could actually succeed in wrestling control over the Lin Kuei from Bi- Han and bring it back to the side of Earth realms protecters.
The problem with Frost is that while she does have the power, she is the one standing in her own way.
In my school vr game, she was the one who froze Goalius, so Exodus shatters him to get his brain for Project Onaga she did actually died as she was killed by Scorpion which crippled the Cyber Lin Que badly
Man I watched you back in 2017 with your first round of lore with everyone, all I can say is you opened a door for me to discover my love for the lore in games and shows, gotta say man nothings more perfect then a little while of learning about what you love to play and watch,
I really think she has cannon status in the sequel. Her and Bi Han are made for each other.
Facts cause they are consistent in their thirst for power. I also think it is funny cause in either MKX or MK11 (I can't remember), Bi Han as Noob Saibot said he would never let a woman into the Lin Kuei.
@pandaninja_19 Now, does she betray and murder Bi Han in her lust for power, or is she loyal to him and the Lin Kuei?
I clicked on my notifications, took a glance and clicked off. Then it registered you posted another of one of my favorite series on UA-cam. Had to come and check it out.
It would be interesting to see a version of Frost who's had her ego stoked by Bi Han. Building her up as a superior to Kuai due to their shared Cryomantic abilities as opposed to the Fire/Ice that they had as brothers and acting as his enforcer, potentially outranking even Sektor and Cyrax. Obviously, still give her a chip on her shoulder about being held back, since Bi Han would never willingly let her supplant him as Grandmaster, but it would be interesting if her potential betrayal result in her being framed as a protagonist rather than an antagonist
Hey History! Love the videos man,
Can you maybe cover the hostility between the Cantaurian and Shokan resurfacing?
In some character interactions they mention it (Sindel) Along with Kitana’s ending showing Motaro fighting for her as the Shokan are fighting for Shao. I think it’ll be very interesting that In this timeline it’s a faction war that causes hostility as it may show in the upcoming story expansion.
I can always remember watching the video intro for Deadly Alliance where Shang Tsung and Quan Chi kill Liu Kang and who they thought was Shao Kahn and thinking “Wow these graphics are absolutely amazing and it’s one hell of a jump up in graphics, animation and all round content when compared to MK4”. MK4 has gone on to be my least favourite Mortal Kombat game of all time even thinking at the time when I got MK4 on the N64 that it wasn’t as good as UMK3 on my SNES, so when I got Deadly Alliance on the PS2 I was just blown away by how much of an improvement it was to MK4
Frost would fit well as MK1 Sub-Zero's apprentice but has much more potential to be an even cooler character.
Serena, Nitara and Frost; the impartial femme familiarity known only by Bi Han
Cool 🧊 Video Bro.
I hope she comes back with the other cyber ninjas soon
First!! Keep these videos coming
I think Frost is the offspring of Bi Han and Serena and Kuai Liang secretly knows this which was why Kuai Liang was super lenient to Frost despite her countless attempts to murder him and usurpe his clan. It's probably his niece.
I doubt that’s true, but I take Bi Han and Tanya as a couple over Tanya and Mileena. Seriously, I never liked the idea of Tanya and Mileena being a thing, felt very random to me.
When did Bi Han ever have anything to do with Tanya 😂 if anything Sareena is his bff
In MK Origins: Sub-Zero, it is stated that Bi Han and Kuai Liang had a third sibling, a younger sister who has never been mentioned again. It’s always been my personal head canon that Frost is that long lost sister.
@@mugzy07 I meant Sareena. Calm tf down
Never heard that before
I am probably one of the only people that thought Frost becoming a cyborg was actually cool. I liked her gameplay and I liked her design. The only problem I had with it was her lack of story. I think it would have better if she had disbanded from the Lin Kuei after Kuai Liang made amends with Hanzo. Found one a hidden Cyber Initiative base, cyberized herself to become stronger and more powerful than Sub-Zero, started rebuilding the cyber Lin Kuei potentially even being the creator of Triborg, and becomes the new Grandmaster of the Tekunin all without Kronika's help. This would of been the reason why she had Frost join her army because she did all that by herself, with Kronika only upgrading Frost and her Cyborgs.
I too like Frost as a cyborg. I really like how she differs from Sub Zero, being able to use Cryomancy in her own way while blending with robotic abilities. I couldn’t come up with a better way for Frost, and I’m glad she’s a cyborg in MK11. If Frost simply stays good, she wouldn’t be any different than Sub Zero. In terms of being a villain, I didn’t mind her role being small, and not all bad guys have to be main antagonists.
@@BlazerK1914 I agree entirely, I'm not sure how they will utilize in the new timeline since she would be very similar to be Bi-Han. Maybe he'll be like a father figure to her and she'll constantly be seeking for his approval. I can see her kinda being like a Azula from Avatar, wanting to be the strongest Cryomancer and be his heir.
@@thunderbolte711
By the Elder Gods 😄 Bi Han being Ozai with cryomancy, and Frost as the Azula of MK👿😈❄️ That would be very interesting to see.
@@BlazerK1914 Right?! But knowing how they've been with the writing of the story I don't think we'll get that.
Awesome
I can think of a better successor for Sub-Zero.. It's Hydro.. He can be a much better disciple than Frost.. Think about it he can manipulate three powers and that's Water, Ice, and Electricity..
I agree. Hydro is the kind of guy who can be Sub Zero’s successor, and in my opinion, Frost should stay as a bad woman.
Tundra
I hope they do something cool with her
Man she takes one step toward to becoming better to two steps back to being an obsessed punk. Hopefully we get more development. Cyber version was definitely a cool edition.
The 3D characters are the best 😍😍
Frost to me was a contrast to other student characters to their mentors (like Takeda to Hanzo), since she intends to betray her mentor Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang, as opposed to fully adopt his teachings.
She was interesting to play as in MK11 and her pre-battle dialogue was funny to listen to.
I’m not opposed to seeing Frost return to the New Era.
Is that Jax?
Can you do Asharah next
I guess you can say Frost is a COOL chick😅
COLD as 🧊
Damn bro you're pretty CHILL
BOOOOOOO
LIKED
Yo the lin kuei is pretty chill, you could like join it or something
That’s COLD
Selling Characters that are supposed to belong to the game is crazy!
Pretty cool story.
13:17 they’re gona bang 😂
She could definitely be Bi-Han's apprentice in this new era.
I think she’s referenced in a pre fight dialogue as Bi Han’s apprentice, I definitely remember seeing it.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb With General Shao?
@@wickdaline8668 I think so, I could be wrong though.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb That is what HBTW showed us.
can you do history of raiko
All jokes aside Frost is really a cool chick. I liked her some of her skins in MK11 with the short non spiky hairstyle, the only thing I didn’t like was her being a partial cyber ninja, I much prefer her as a human from the 3D era and MK One kameo. If Frost was to be a later DLC character I’d like to see her remain human but change her outfit and for some skins she has her short MK11 hairstyle and her traditional spiky hairstyle for others as I’m sure there is some MK fans who like her traditional spiky hairstyle
Make Frost a member of the Shirai Ryu but become annoyed of Kuai Liangs teachings, leading to her defecting from the group.
Have her join the Lin Kuei where she gives the secrets of the Shirai Ryu to Bi Han in exchange for a higher role and authority. Maybe make her a general or teacher so the Lin Kuei become even deadlier.
Bi Han and Frost get along well due similar personalities, mutual hate for Kuai and Cryomancy.
I hope they make a better go of her in the next one. Besides the creative decision to turn her into a cyborg, they also made her ugly; she used to be pretty; but now she’s made to look like King Joffrey from GoT🤦🏻♀️
P.S. Frost is a real sad case: she has a need for recognition and validation, that is almost exclusively driving her need for power. That’s why she’s so reckless and impatient to attain it. And, by asserting her power so recklessly and forcefully, she repels the very people she wants to validate and recognize her. How can anything worthwhile be seen if one comes off as irritating, aggressive and confrontational? She confirmed that for me in her last ending, talking about never being dismissed again. Since she had no love in her life, this is what feeds her, and the way she goes about it has her in her own way and by the end of it, she goes without. Now you’ve got a feedback loop that will repeat until something gives🤷🏻♀️
I hope that an MK1 DLC makes the Kameo fighters playable and gives them stories
🤝🤝💯💯✔️✔️
I liked the cyborg angle in 11 but it should've been her own thing instead of being useless jobber #8 in the story. She definitely should've been part of the kombat kids & had a falling out with Sub Zero instead of "apprentice turns on master because....reasons, explicable only in intros"
I too like Frost as a cyborg. I really like how she differs from Sub Zero, being able to use Cryomancy in her own way while blending with robotic abilities. I couldn’t come up with a better way for Frost, and I’m glad she’s a cyborg in MK11. If Frost simply stays good, she wouldn’t be any different than Sub Zero. In terms of being a villain, I didn’t mind her role being small, and not all bad guys have to be main antagonists.
Do the cameo characters have bios in M1K?
No.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb thank you
Does Hanzo also have fire powers or just qui in this timeline?
Hanzo’s probably just a normal ninja at this point.
Does noob saibot also have cryomancy or just shadow?
The shadow powers replaced his cryomancy
@@Evoker23-lx8mb thanks
She's wasted potential
Agreed
I have wondered if Lord Liu Kang could fix her character.
NRS made mk11 frost annoying af. Just my opinion
I can fix her guys, I just need to get her medicated is all. 🥺
He kinda bad tho.
Best to Worst version of Frost
MKDA Frost >>>>MKX Frost >>>>MK1 Frost (they need to fix her looks, I didn't like it at all, I didn't want her same model from MK11)>>>>MK11 Frost.
WOMEN, AM I RIGHT!?!
Another feminist insert character eye roll
Nah frost is a badass.
She ain't just a cheap insert character.
She's far from it. She's actually a good & fun to play character. If the other games were still available I'd say try it. But too bad they are not.
She’s a 3D era character, dude.
Another negative gen z who just likes to shoot their mouth off and you know nothing.
It was 20 years ago so the “What if BLANK but girl?” hadn’t worn out its welcome yet. Now the whole gurlboss thing is so off putting and toxic.