Spinning-off of Spin-offs - Mega Man Battle Network Side Games

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  • Опубліковано 7 бер 2024
  • Mega Man Battle Network was a merchandising machine, which includes an almost concerning number of additional side games in a very short span of time. Today Network Transmission, WonderSwan, Battlechip Challenge and 4.5 all step in the ring to see if these rushed spin-offs can hold a candle to the slightly less rushed main series games!
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  • @elevate07
    @elevate07 2 місяці тому +319

    18:15
    In Battle Network 3, Higsby charged a lady 100,000z for a Ratton chip she could've got for free. You should've known NumberMan was about the bag.

    • @inconemay1441
      @inconemay1441 2 місяці тому +3

      Wait when did this happen?

    • @igodreamer7096
      @igodreamer7096 2 місяці тому +1

      damn hahahaahahaa

    • @elevate07
      @elevate07 2 місяці тому +48

      @inconemay1441 During the BubbleMan scenario Lan will volunteer to do the chores Mayl promised Higsby she'd do while she and Ms. Mari install her new internet enabled washing machine. One of the tasks is delivering a Ratton Chip to a customer hanging out in SciLab. And the customer will brag that she paid 100,000z for this chip because she only takes the best. SciLab area has Ratty viruses you can kill to get Ratton chips for free. Higsby and NumberMan just fleeced the f*ck out of that lady. I wonder if that's illegal somehow.

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 місяці тому +11

      @@elevate07 maybe it was a premium edition one that acquiring it from a virus would not be enough

    • @SDogo
      @SDogo 2 місяці тому +27

      @@elevate07 Funny thing is. You can actually compare that with the actual "retro" market of games where a simple gba cart can cost you 3 kidneys.

  • @kemix1006
    @kemix1006 2 місяці тому +256

    "Ah fuck it I'm too poor for this shit."
    Best way to sum up trying to play retro/old games on their intended consoles and in their intended ways.

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink 2 місяці тому +19

      Because some of them are so expensive that you'd get the same experience from being mugged and said mugger left a card saying: "I O U".

    • @EpicGamerSetzuna
      @EpicGamerSetzuna 2 місяці тому +19

      ​@ajflink Shoutout to trying to legitimately acquire PS2 survival horror game. Ain't no way I'm spending $1000 to play Rule of Rose

    • @kemix1006
      @kemix1006 2 місяці тому +7

      @@EpicGamerSetzuna believe me, I'd go crazy if I had to spend 200+$ on a copy of Xenosaga Episode 3

    • @EpicGamerSetzuna
      @EpicGamerSetzuna 2 місяці тому +10

      @@xbon1 Bait used to be believable

    • @EpicGamerSetzuna
      @EpicGamerSetzuna 2 місяці тому +14

      @xbon1 Well, Rule of Rose is abandonware, the only people who benefit from buying a physical copy are the scalpers selling it for over $1000, not the devs, not the original studio. In fact, the original studio no longer exists, so the game will likely never be brought to light again outside of emulation.

  • @amateraceon5202
    @amateraceon5202 2 місяці тому +82

    The best part of this video is John hearing the BN4 tournament music and getting immediate audio PTSD

    • @orbmac
      @orbmac 17 днів тому

      I was laughing out loud xD

  • @JohnelLance
    @JohnelLance 2 місяці тому +39

    As a Digimon fan I hear Wonder Swan and break out in hives mumbling about "Milleniummon" and "Grandfather paradoxes"; so good to hear at least the Battle Network Wonder Swan game isn't being presented as canon to the main series.

    • @Segadud
      @Segadud 2 місяці тому +8

      you can't forget the universe hopper himself, aka ryo

  • @BaconPizzaWaffles
    @BaconPizzaWaffles 2 місяці тому +103

    HOLD UP. You're telling me they made an actual, proper game to use those physical battlechips with, and not just the lump of disappointment that was the PET toy, AND YOUR NAVI WAS AUTONOMOUS??? I spent years dreaming of that game existing! Why, Japan?! I had the chips! If they had just released it in the US, I would've been on that shit like white on rice!

    • @OPLOmega
      @OPLOmega 2 місяці тому +10

      The issue, you see, comes from the specific chips needed for this itself. The Chip Gate itself is only compatible with Battle Chips specifically made to work with the toy PET used in 4 & the Axess anime season.
      I might be miss remembering but only the Plug-In model got a US release?
      (in any case these sorts of toys would only ever see big success in Japan due to walkable cities making it simple to just find a place that sells toy accessories & card packs for shit)

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink 2 місяці тому +5

      Because marketing and sales people are dumb.

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@OPLOmegaThe Advanced one from Battle Network 4 got released in the United States with the battle chips. I know because I had one as a kid. It probably doesn't work now.

    • @NumberXIIIEdwin
      @NumberXIIIEdwin 2 місяці тому +4

      They actually had compatibility like this for 5 and 6 too, although they both needed their own versions of the Chip Gate. 5’s was closest to 4.5 where it turned the battles into a similar style where your Navi would move on its own while you focused on chips (I think they called it Operation Battle?). If I’m remembering right the data was left intact and translated in the US versions so if you manage to find a chip gate and its chips it should work.
      6 removed the Operation Battle feature but it still let you slot in real chips during battles, but this is as hectic as it sounds since you’re still in full control of MegaMan. You once again have to buy a new kind of chip gate (dubbed the Beast Link Gate) but in exchange you got access to some pretty cool features including having a permanent Beast Out transformation just for having it plugged in. You could also use Navi Data chips in the post game to swap out playable Navis which also let you play as ProtoMan in 6. All of these features unfortunately got completely removed from the US versions.

    • @kemix1006
      @kemix1006 2 місяці тому +4

      Funny enough they TRANSLATED ALL OF THAT CRAP THAT WAS ON THE BN4 CARTS! We never got the chip gate so we could never play it, but if you had a japanese chip gate GUESS WHAT, YOU COULD PLAY THE BN4 VERSION IN ENGLISH!

  • @qstmrk8004
    @qstmrk8004 2 місяці тому +59

    1:26 network transmission
    24:12 ws
    32:07 battle chip challenge
    45:37 4.5 real operation

  • @ArleThePoss
    @ArleThePoss 2 місяці тому +28

    I love how the early Japan handheld competition was literally the same creators creations fighting each other.

  • @inoscopedjfk3110
    @inoscopedjfk3110 2 місяці тому +171

    WE'RE SO BACK BROS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @thenegus5053
      @thenegus5053 2 місяці тому

      Gang Gang

    • @GiroEXE
      @GiroEXE 2 місяці тому +5

      WE JACKIN IN WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥

    • @inoscopedjfk3110
      @inoscopedjfk3110 2 місяці тому +1

      WE DESTROYING ZERO'S STORY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @carlosemilio5180
      @carlosemilio5180 2 місяці тому +3

      WE SO JACK BROS FOR VIRTUAL BOY

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia 2 місяці тому +129

    Knowing John's luck, Capcom will revive both Battle Network and Star Force as soon as he's done reviewing both. And then Shanghai.EXE and ChronoX will also finish. And then Inafune will make his own Battle Network spin-off. The ride will never end!
    4.5 felt a lot better to me with the PvP mod that also restored normal gameplay and added some chips from BN6 and passives to each Navi. The base game is way too vanilla with what each Navi does.
    Also, I can't believe John forgot about the fourth female Navi in the series. Even if you never fight her and she is a plot twist. (Redacted) erasure!

    • @ma.2099
      @ma.2099 2 місяці тому

      Is that the number one net navi from megaman 3? The final secret boss fight I think! Idr

    • @TheAzulmagia
      @TheAzulmagia 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ma.2099 Iris.

    • @hayaokakizaki4463
      @hayaokakizaki4463 2 місяці тому +17

      ​@@TheAzulmagiaI-Iris! What's going on? This can't be happening! I don't want to go on.... What am I fighting for???????

    • @La_Espada_Sin_Nombre
      @La_Espada_Sin_Nombre 2 місяці тому +5

      I mean, to be fair, Shanghai is already completed, it even has the post game area and all.

    • @KaySaidTwice
      @KaySaidTwice 2 місяці тому +10

      @@ma.2099 Fyi, Serenade is officially stated to "transcend gender", being equally male and female.

  • @GribbleGob
    @GribbleGob 2 місяці тому +24

    you know when you're alone and trying to blast out a fart and you have to get into a posture to force it out? thats what Megaman's battle stance in Network Transmission looks like

  • @geistgrace6452
    @geistgrace6452 2 місяці тому +48

    Heads up for those curious.
    All the story modes in BCC end with a boss fight against Bass.
    And there's also a special 100 gauntlet to fight against Bass GS.
    Both of which give you his Navi chip and despite what you'd think, he's honestly not that good.
    Like, 7/10 at best.
    *Edit: I should clarify.
    The Story mode fight just gives you Bass normal.
    The 100 gauntlet gives you Bass GS.
    On top of it being 100 in a row, you have to complete previous gauntlets too.
    I believe it goes 10-20-50 then 100

    • @Q-gf8vb
      @Q-gf8vb 2 місяці тому +2

      I loved BCC. John just didn't cheese the battles well enough. Elemental ball trap chips absolutely destroy the elemental chip users. I found that out when I was like 12..

  • @Carlet_S
    @Carlet_S 2 місяці тому +21

    Finally, someone sees how far ahead of its time (derogatory) Battle Chip Challenge is!

    • @Q-gf8vb
      @Q-gf8vb 2 місяці тому +3

      Predicted gacha and idle games. Inti Creates.. I kneel

    • @Atmatan_Kabbaher
      @Atmatan_Kabbaher Місяць тому +3

      Sad fact is that, like many idle games, there's actually reasonable potential baked underneath a crusty loaf of burnt gross.

  • @autofire55555
    @autofire55555 2 місяці тому +51

    Fun fact, Network Transmission lets you slide between boss's legs. This makes dodging Fire Man's flame thrower much, *much* easier.
    ...but of course they don't explain this. :)
    EDIT: Ok actually looks like your footage has you doing this lol
    EDIT 2: Huh, I remember liking Battlechip Challenge a lot as a kid, but I bet I'd be annoyed with it too if I only found it recently.

    • @thomasyang1
      @thomasyang1 2 місяці тому +3

      Same enjoyed battle chip challenge. I think I just find it cool to be able to play different characters which wasn't available until later series.

    • @geistgrace6452
      @geistgrace6452 2 місяці тому +2

      Actually, sometimes bosses will counter the slide by using an attack that hits under them. Like fireman has a eruption attack that hits anything above below and close to him.

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 2 місяці тому

      I feel the same way about BC. Maybe because we had way more time back then and were not in a hurry to finish a game. A lot of people enjoy mobile games, and BC was essentially one of them.

  • @jgamefactory
    @jgamefactory 2 місяці тому +28

    Shadowman actually is in the first battle network game as a hidden boss in the undernet. He is a pain in the butt because he will murder you in like 2 or 3 hits unless you have maxed out your health and even then he will kill you in like 5.

    • @knijohn3581
      @knijohn3581  2 місяці тому +20

      You are correct, but the BN post games are sometimes seemingly non-canon and don't really mesh with the main story (like Bass being present in the first game or HubBatch just lying around in random places or heck, Shadowman again not being recognized in BN2 despite being in the BN1 post game)

    • @jgamefactory
      @jgamefactory 2 місяці тому +6

      @@knijohn3581 he also isn't recognized in bn5 when you get him as an ally.

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@jgamefactory Lan and MegaMan do recognize Shadowman, but not Dusk (his operator) because they had never seen him before.

    • @yousefslimani99
      @yousefslimani99 15 днів тому

      Which means 1 attack= 200HP?

    • @jgamefactory
      @jgamefactory 15 днів тому

      @yousefslimani99 if I remember correct when I fought him on original hardware he did around 160 per hit.

  • @WeebmanExe
    @WeebmanExe 2 місяці тому +28

    Dokkan battle mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
    Love paying for units that become obsolete when the next event decides to negate its main ability 🔥🔥🔥

    • @kaimcdragonfist4803
      @kaimcdragonfist4803 2 місяці тому +3

      It's why I can't really justify getting into trading card games. Following what's both legal and viable in tournaments just ruins the fun for me.
      Though let's be honest I couldn't be bothered to go to a tournament for a tcg lol

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten Місяць тому +2

      As a former FEH player, I feel your pain.

  • @leonk9026
    @leonk9026 2 місяці тому +17

    God chip challenge....I still remember spending my OWN money as a kid to get me and my best friend a copy for Christmas when I saw it at a pawnshop. What a Christmas that was lmao

  • @henke37
    @henke37 2 місяці тому +6

    The Battle Gate is emulated these days. And what wasn't mentioned is that there are three different gates, each with its own set of chips.

  • @scoutmasterdemi
    @scoutmasterdemi 2 місяці тому +19

    Oh man, really appreciate the shout out in the first screen! Always love your content John, thanks for being a huge BN pillar : )

  • @AniP_art
    @AniP_art 2 місяці тому +12

    Damn, I missed John shitting on gutsman and numberman... I mean John talking about battle network

  • @gstellar96
    @gstellar96 2 місяці тому +12

    The fact that zero was wasted on Network Transmission devastates me to no end

  • @Parugraph
    @Parugraph 2 місяці тому +10

    4.5 also has a mod that allows you to play it as a regular battle network game where you control the navi with the D pad.

  • @hugsterjim2794
    @hugsterjim2794 2 місяці тому +13

    45:49 I would not have noticed unless you pointed that out lol

  • @crypticDJ
    @crypticDJ 2 місяці тому +5

    ring entering her operator into a tournament against her will when her pace maker is exclusively managed by her is some next level attempted murder.

  • @qeridexis8604
    @qeridexis8604 2 місяці тому +6

    Okay, it was... a long time since I was subscribed but I wanna leave this comment now since there's at least a chance you will read it.
    Thank you for doing these videos!
    I know it's not like, the most healthy thing to do but... over the course of all the retrospectives, all of the videos... you kinda just get this weird sense of attachment, you know? Like, I am really happy whenever you uploaad because the way you write and edit these things make them weirdly personal. Like, yeah, there's ton of irony-posting, humour, ect. but at the same time its like, bot at all made in service to create something cynical or removed from humn experience of playing these games, you know? It just feels nice. Every joke, all the funny "oh god, they are doing this AGAIN", the analysis, it feels less like something that is done by a large comunity of cookie cutter "video essay" YTers but more personal and "down to earth"(?). Like, it feels more akin to hanging out with a friend who hangs out with you while talking about a game they really have lots of ppinions and feelings for.
    Like yeah, it is *kinda* parasocial and not really a good thing to do... but it still feels nice to see a video of yours and go "Hell yeah! New video from John!"
    ... in short - thank you for making these. I think you're rly cool 🫶

  • @trigs7127
    @trigs7127 2 місяці тому +10

    On the WS game, Lan sometimes chimes in and you have to press up to hear what he says, which very often is a hint to getting the special chip of said stage.
    I could have sworn you could see the stats of navis and chips in battle chip challenge by pressing select on the chip on the deck editor...
    And while I know it's standard for MegaMan games by now, taking in account that most of these are not made by Capcom themselves, the music is just as amazing.

  • @ashleylightheart126
    @ashleylightheart126 2 місяці тому +12

    Funfact, my first megaman battle network game was Chip Challenge, fell in love with the characters then played MMBN 6 Gregar years later and fell in love with the game play.
    I am still currently in therapy for this.

    • @kaimcdragonfist4803
      @kaimcdragonfist4803 2 місяці тому +2

      A friend of mine had Chip Challenge and got super into it. I wasn't the biggest fan of the gameplay but man...
      Dat soundtrack tho

  • @RupeeClock
    @RupeeClock 2 місяці тому +6

    Network Transmission is one of those games I find oddly enjoyable, I know the critical path through the game and look forward to beefing up the mega buster each time, but yeah those flaws are unmistakable.
    4.5 Real Operation on the other hand, I really enjoyed committing time to it when we were in lockdown during 2020, and the daily tournaments were manageable. I had to play it with the traditional gameplay patch, but it was a really enjoyable experience with planning how to build your folders, which chips to farm on which given days, and so on.

  • @eyalrephaeli6833
    @eyalrephaeli6833 2 місяці тому +4

    Battle Network 1 was the only game in the franchise to be a launch title for any console. Which might've led Capcom to oversaturate the franchise.

  • @capstalker5539
    @capstalker5539 2 місяці тому +3

    The spin-off games of Battle Network perfectly predicted today's mobile games.
    I am surprised that Capcom have never thought of making a mobile game follows 4.5 gameplay, it's clearly more mobile-friendly than any other Capcom games.

  • @sol_and_luna
    @sol_and_luna 2 місяці тому +6

    I'm just here to continue to insist that all of these games could have been really good in the modern era with a bit of polish.
    Okay, a lot of polish for the platformers, those have some problems. But like, Battle Chip Challenge with an ability to select chips and potentially a different "board" with bonus effects if you use those chips, and maybe an ability to choose which chip you're targeting with damage? I feel like that would actually be a fun concept to play around with.
    Heck, Real Operation is already solid, just throw it on mobile, remove the time gates, add a simpler way to power up your Navis and you could make a really good Battle Network experience in the modern day.
    It won't ever happen, but I can dream.

    • @bloboblobo
      @bloboblobo 29 днів тому

      Battle chip challenge it's pretty good (once you search or try to figure out priorities, and to be fair, the game manual says elemental chips have priority over non elemental ones) but it's a game you either get hooked into and figure out how to beat it step by step or you straight up dislike. Also it's not a pay to win although you may have bad luck and not draw any wood, fire, aqua or elec attacking chips after the first class tournaments, but that's kinda unlikely, and you only need two of one element to go to the tournament of the element it wins against, then AT THAT SAME TOURNAMENT you get the navi and chips to win against the element it wins against, then rinse and repeat. That is unless you have Ring (which he did) since her shooter is a double 20 which becomes a double 40 on ice and double 50 on ice against aqua navi, oh, and also adds that damage to opponent last chip on execution line.

  • @TheMadRedHatter
    @TheMadRedHatter 2 місяці тому +4

    The amount of times that Higsby and Numberman screw you over with paywalls in these games is a bit alarming.

  • @seandobson6896
    @seandobson6896 2 місяці тому +3

    Love that bed of chaos is catching strays in a megaman spin-off video

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 2 місяці тому +6

    you know you can emulate the battle chip gate functionality with the latest MGBA builds? really saves some change that way when you have access to every chip in the game.
    like, for real.

  • @CelestialAmethyst92
    @CelestialAmethyst92 2 місяці тому +2

    It still boggles my mind how these games, despite their many, many flaws, still all manage to have absolute BANGER music.

  • @CntrazZombie4
    @CntrazZombie4 2 місяці тому +4

    Everytime the Wonder Swan is mentioned, I feel like I got ripped to an alternate timeline where we got that instead of the Gameboy, and it fucks with me so hard bros.

    • @Atmatan_Kabbaher
      @Atmatan_Kabbaher Місяць тому

      Nothing is true.
      Everything is asserted.
      Even this statement.

  • @somekami3375
    @somekami3375 2 місяці тому +2

    Dunno why the segment with Dokkan Battle’s music playing for a quick second has me dying 🤣

  • @TheReapers520
    @TheReapers520 2 місяці тому +5

    Another fantastic review. Glad to see those Dvd's of footage have started creeping in hopefully

  • @SakuyaIyazoi
    @SakuyaIyazoi 2 місяці тому +1

    My favorite quirk about chip challenge is that they seemingly did not get or cut out the cardinal direction facing sprites so when a character wants to move downwards they start wildly alternating directions

  • @HiScoreChef
    @HiScoreChef 2 місяці тому +1

    Another banger video. Your narrative and voice are very pleasant to listen to, makes the video that much more enjoyable! Keep up the good work dude!

  • @kwjibril97
    @kwjibril97 Місяць тому +2

    As someone who is at least 2000 stones deep into a summoning drought...
    The Dokkan Battle music struck me directly in my soul

  • @videogamerzero1schannel
    @videogamerzero1schannel 2 місяці тому +4

    About time you're doing the spin offs as I've heard about almost none of them besides Network Transmission

    • @jordandillow2417
      @jordandillow2417 2 місяці тому

      Bro have you’ve been living under a rock or something because literally there’s videos about those games bruh do you not have internet to watch UA-cam or something?!?😂

    • @videogamerzero1schannel
      @videogamerzero1schannel 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jordandillow2417 hey I just didn't see most of these talked about outside of Network Transmission

  • @mariorivera7969
    @mariorivera7969 2 місяці тому +5

    The professor looks like a code lyoko character

  • @Exlayer-pk8hy
    @Exlayer-pk8hy Місяць тому +2

    I probably would have loved 4.5 if i got to play it as a kid the way it was intended.
    It sounds so hype.

  • @FantasyJared
    @FantasyJared 2 місяці тому +1

    The video I never even knew I wanted this much. What a wild ride this was, thanks John! I actually have a sort of nostalgia for Battle Chip Challenge, but yeah, by many metrics is not particularly fantastic. XD I guess we all have our games like that, similar to you with Network Transmission.

  • @duhsbo
    @duhsbo Місяць тому +1

    I do love when I get passionate reviews full of humor. Subscribed

  • @rebornotherlan
    @rebornotherlan Місяць тому +1

    I just so happened to notice this video on my UA-cam timeline and because of it I went down on a rabbit hole of all your battle network videos yes even the ones you think are bad, but the videos really brought back memories of my childhood playing the series and after watching through them all it honestly makes me want a new battle network game. even though that most likely will never happen I can kinda see how if they ever did 6 left the series in a way if they ever brought it back they are truly open to really give it a fresh new start.

  • @AchanCham_
    @AchanCham_ 2 місяці тому

    This was really cool to watch! And I absolutely agree, if I had everything required for that last game I would have been on the moon. Thank you for your hard work and for sharing this video!

  • @davidettles1992
    @davidettles1992 2 місяці тому +5

    An hour of John bring on the Good Times.

  • @alextwin365
    @alextwin365 2 місяці тому +1

    You’re proof that even though you love a game, you can still be honest about its gameplay and provide an honest review in contrast of your own personal feelings. Love that ❤❤🎉

    • @Atmatan_Kabbaher
      @Atmatan_Kabbaher Місяць тому +1

      Only people who love something are able to tear it down and see its flaws.
      It's easy to be an uncritical consumer of media who defends their art without compromise.
      It's much harder to be self aware enough to see the flaws in what you love and continue to enjoy it anyway.

  • @starmangalaxy2001
    @starmangalaxy2001 2 місяці тому +3

    As you pointed out a hack for Battlechip Challenge, I want to point one out for 4.5, actually it's a hack of a hack, the PvP Patch for 4.5 is a next step from the Real Battle Network gameplay by making all of the Navi's much more unique, and implementing mechanics from BN6 for an amazing PvP experience. Megaman takes inspiration from both the other games and the 4.5 megabuster by having more Mega and Giga chip capacity allowing him to use and abuse the powers of other navis, while Bass needs no friendship, Roll has self healing and can summon Mettaurs to stall, or Starman being a goofy goober who can use a random effect at the start of the turn. It's a blast and it's worth giving a play session with a friend.

  • @AndrevusWhitetail
    @AndrevusWhitetail 2 місяці тому +8

    Cob Nation represent!
    Also #fucknumberman
    One thing that's odd is ShadowMan in Network Transmission 'kinda' makes sense since he was also a secret boss in Battle Network 1 even if he had 0 story relevance.
    As for the Battle Chip Gate...SOME "totally real GameBoy Advance TM" programs on Windows ACTUALLY support emulating it so at least they are usable. So even if we don't have access to the thrill of slotting in chips in real life with a plastic toy piece tacked onto our GBA's at least we can push some buttons to do the same to see what it would've done.
    Another thing that does stand out to me about how hostile 4.5 is to changing up characters is maybe despite all the character specific roadblocks the game intended for you to get attached to your Navi, much like how in the anime you don't really see people swap their navis out left and right?

    • @batmabel
      @batmabel 2 місяці тому +2

      With how time-gated the game is, I *think* you're supposed to progress with all your Navis at the same time? I mean, you can enroll more than one Navi on the weekly tournaments, so maybe you're supposed to, like, play a bit with a different Navi each day or something? It's still a weird design decision if that's the case, and the fact that each Navi has a separate folder is outright bad, but that makes more sense at least.

  • @EurasiaM11922911
    @EurasiaM11922911 2 місяці тому

    4.5 was a real big fun time when you play it over time when i was younger.. I first played it back in 2010 with my gate and it was just pretty fun. Though as you said, you really need the gate to get the full experience. This video overall was great! Always love seeing battle network related content and anything relate to the rl chips and such

  • @Luisthepanda
    @Luisthepanda 2 місяці тому +1

    I love Battle Chip Challenge! With a few improvements it could have been a great game. It reminds me a lot of auto-battlers, it probably would have been a lot more fun if it was more like auto-battlers instead of idle games.
    Great video, really enjoyed everything!

  • @Tanookicatoon
    @Tanookicatoon 2 місяці тому +2

    They actually released battlechips in the US. They had the PET, and all Battle Network action figures and toys came with chips that can be used with it.
    That chip gate just wasn't released in the US. In Japan, they straight up had an arcade game that was basically Versus mode from the games, and you used these same battlechips
    OH, and it ACTUALLY rewarded you with random chips that the machine was stocked with. Japan gets all the good shit. lol

    • @Atmatan_Kabbaher
      @Atmatan_Kabbaher Місяць тому

      I think most people on this channel know this.

  • @BlueDevilJon91
    @BlueDevilJon91 2 місяці тому +1

    Network transmission was so 🔥 as a kid to me cause I was watching the cartoon along side playing the game.

  • @austinfeller2368
    @austinfeller2368 28 днів тому

    “Just kill me now, they did not use that music again” killed me 😂

  • @christianlabrador2826
    @christianlabrador2826 2 місяці тому +1

    Man, Battle Chip Challenge gets a lot of hate but it was actually one of my favorites growing up. I remember getting it as an 8th grade graduation gift and me playing the living hell out of it during summer break. It had its flaws, for sure, but the unique experience it provided in contrast to the "main series" MMBN games was a pretty cool change of pace. You could also input some codes from MMBN4 into Battle Chip Challenge and you'd fight a special character deck for characters from the series. It was also fun to ask Protoman what he thought the chances of victory were before a match and have him respond with "95%", "56%", "20%" was fun at the time.

  • @Semystic
    @Semystic 2 місяці тому +1

    I enjoyed BCC and I still play it every so often. It's a pretty neat spinoff

  • @uroy8371
    @uroy8371 2 місяці тому

    Jaja I loved the last word xD really made laugh. What a good and objective review.

  • @ectobeing
    @ectobeing 2 місяці тому

    Great video! I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one who struggled horribly with the gamecube game.
    I was super into the anime as a kid, I even put subbed episodes onto my iPod nano to watch in the car, but didn’t have any of the games for this MM series in specific. So you can imagine my excitement when I finally found a used copy for cheap at a game store…. Yeah, it was the Network Transmission game. I knew nothing about it, and I couldn’t get past Fire Man either! I think I gave up after a few times out of frustration and boredom, and had difficulty understanding the chip mechanics, especially not playing the RPGs before. Keep in mind I had my parents' old NES MM games and had beat a few of them by the time I had picked up this game. It was my first experience with being disappointed with a game purchase.
    My second game I got was… a Japanese copy of Battle Chip Challenge. I brute forced learning that game and the language at the same time out of sheer determination. The limited gameplay definitely helped in that regards. Thankfully, this introduction didn’t sour me to the experience of this franchise.

  • @Jprime777
    @Jprime777 2 місяці тому +2

    Battle Chip Challenge and Network Transmission was my introduction to Battle Network....it took until years later for me to give the series another shot. I just wrote the whole thing off for years until I got BN3 used for $5, and it was actually good

  • @NEETKitten
    @NEETKitten 2 місяці тому +2

    I feel like you're onto something with Network Transmission being initially developed with the anime in mind. I mean, for one Zero never fucking shows up in the main series again but gets considerable screentime in the anime. So either that was the plan from the start and got changed partway through, or the anime staff saw how underutilized Zero was and decided to give him a home in their... strange, let's say to be nice, alternate timeline.

  • @redsowshaddark
    @redsowshaddark 2 місяці тому

    I'm so glad you like network transmission even though it's kind of awful. I feel the same way ha ha.
    Just letting you know since even the wiki has wrong information on it.... In 4.5 the third row of playable navis on the character select screen were battlegate exclusive navis. As in you had to buy the associated physical navi chip into the battlegate toy while playing 4.5 to unlock them. The English translation patch, knowing most people won't have the toys, give you ways to unlock those navis through in-game means. It's mentioned in the patch notes.
    Wonderful video, great job! Always love seeing things from you.

  • @CassiDS
    @CassiDS 2 місяці тому +2

    25:08 Starfy is, like, the only thing TOSE has to their name that's purely Theirs, and even then...

  • @Meophist
    @Meophist 2 місяці тому +1

    You can actually change the program path in Battle Chip Challenge by using up your whole custom gauge if you have at least 50% from what I remember. I forgot what the command was for it, but it was in the manual.

  • @zekecontreras77
    @zekecontreras77 2 місяці тому

    Very well made and entertaining video my dude!

  • @soundsofglasswork6283
    @soundsofglasswork6283 2 місяці тому

    It's always intriguing to hear about Battle Chip Challenge cause I must have major nostalgia cause I remember some features but others I remember very differently like I remember at some point operating Toadman after a shop purchase and I don't remember the battle system AT ALL. I just remember it being extremely hard.

  • @Gaia_BentosZX5
    @Gaia_BentosZX5 2 місяці тому +2

    "Goon Squad."
    Hey, phrasing!

  • @KingTaltia
    @KingTaltia 2 місяці тому +1

    I personally really love Battle Chip Challenge, myself.
    But maybe that's just because I REALLY dig Turboman.exe and Ring.exe's designs.

  • @rpbattleman
    @rpbattleman 2 місяці тому

    Always cool to get new episodes from ya! Hope we can get a new Kirby episode if you find the time

  • @PlayMadness
    @PlayMadness 2 місяці тому

    One thing I appreciate about the level design callbacks for the matching Mega Man 1 robot master levels is that the yoku block pattern in Iceman.exe's stage is almost identical to the Ice Man stage blocks in MM1.

  • @MrMr-Joey
    @MrMr-Joey 2 місяці тому +2

    DOKKAN BATTLE MENTIONED 🗣️🔥🔥 MY WALLET IS IN SHAMBLES

  • @EnigmaBarry
    @EnigmaBarry 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the reviews John! These are very fair critiques of the spin-offs and I appreciate your thoughts.
    NT: Pretty tough game that becomes ridiculously easy. The only reason I beat BrightMan was because a UA-cam LP I watched used ShieldGuard from the QuickMan Stage. Otherwise GutsMan was the biggest wall for several years until I figured out how this game was actually played. Thanks to GameFAQ's for suggesting DashAtk.
    WS: Really cool Gunpei Yokoi made a Game Boy for Bandai. As for our Blue Boy, I never played it. I don't know how well this game's buttons four additional face buttons translate to emulators.
    BCC: I never played more than a few hours of this. It's only good if you're looking for a Mega Man Battle Network game to fill the void.
    4.5: Would you believe me if I told you the BN4 "Tournament Advancement" Music is listed under 4.5 on the Soundtrack? John didn't mention this but you can emulate all of the Battle Chip Gates using mGBA or GreigaMaster's "Battle Chip Gate Homebrew" if you have a second Game Boy Advance, a Link Cable, and a Flash Cart.. I'm guessing John didn't use this because he either didn't know (or it interferes with recording footage).

  • @sirrealgaming6913
    @sirrealgaming6913 2 місяці тому

    Nice work as always
    Really appreciate these videos as someone who loved the series
    not to mention it's genuinely fun to listen to your opinions about them
    Curious though are you going to do Onimusha Blade Warriors as well
    I always thought it was crazy that Exe and M.Zero were in it

  • @ScottE-2
    @ScottE-2 2 місяці тому +1

    Ah sweet a new John video! Been looking forward to this one.

  • @mycatsnameisdash
    @mycatsnameisdash 2 місяці тому +1

    Network transmission is one of my favourite games , I really love the difficulty of the game

  • @Mugiwara2k
    @Mugiwara2k 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m not ashamed to admit Network Transmission is one of my guilty pleasure games. The beginning of the game is rough as shit, but once you get upgrades it becomes much more fun. I rented it back in high school when it first came out and I still enjoy it.
    The way it mixed chips from the RPG series into a platformer is still pretty interesting to me.

  • @bluespinewood6304
    @bluespinewood6304 2 місяці тому

    more megaman videos wooo! i am one day late, glad to see you again

  • @TheGameStan
    @TheGameStan 2 місяці тому

    Loved this, thanks for sharing!

  • @StevenUlyssesPerhero
    @StevenUlyssesPerhero 2 місяці тому +1

    There's a fan patch for 4.5 that makes the Navis directly controllable and adds codes to the chips, and I enjoyed playing the game that way. Not enough to bother beating it with more than one Navi (I chose Roll, in case anyone was curious,) but still, I had a good time.

  • @enistoja
    @enistoja 2 місяці тому +1

    unfun fact: battle chip challenge has an optional 100-battle-gauntlet mode.
    My relatively fresh and well cared for GBA SP ran out of battery from full charge before completing it. It also took more than four hours, from what I recall. With endgame chips.

    • @GribbleGob
      @GribbleGob 2 місяці тому

      Shit like this is why I believe Capcom genuinely hated mega man BN fans.

  • @sponge1234ify
    @sponge1234ify 2 місяці тому

    I've been waiting for this!

  • @maokai09
    @maokai09 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much to death. I appreciate the hell out of this.

  • @RalphThePyro
    @RalphThePyro 12 днів тому

    33:57 "...and what is wrong with them!?"
    Me: Actually we should be asking "Are they okay?"

  • @Miss_Rydia
    @Miss_Rydia Місяць тому

    Hahaha! My older sister owned Network Transmission, and it was the first Battle Network game I really played! Of course, I never got past Fire Man, but I sure did play that one part of the game a lot!

  • @RalphThePyro
    @RalphThePyro 2 місяці тому

    Bro I'm shocked "A lot of mediocre ground to cover." *Megaman Netwrok Transmission*
    WHAT!? XD I really loved it! AND I didn't quit after Fire Man :) I (and my bro) PUSHED!

  • @DarkNia64
    @DarkNia64 2 місяці тому

    Bro just emulate the Battle Chip Gate
    Also thanks for the vid!

  • @USSWISCONSIN64
    @USSWISCONSIN64 2 місяці тому

    thought about getting Battle Chip Challenge but never could find it back when i was a kid when it came out. only "spin off" i played was Megaman And Bass on the GBA which was kinda fun.

  • @ce4879
    @ce4879 2 місяці тому

    The King has returned like Kingman’s checkmate smashing down! 👑 🎉

  • @yousefslimani99
    @yousefslimani99 2 місяці тому

    Can't wait for the second video!

  • @hankhill6404
    @hankhill6404 2 місяці тому

    New upload? Welp guess its that time of the year to binge all the reviews again

  • @KesorodaBlk
    @KesorodaBlk 2 місяці тому

    8:32 In the TV show, during the first tournament, MegaMan recharges his chips physically using a machine akin to a kiosk found in the subway.

  • @numbrerotime6683
    @numbrerotime6683 2 місяці тому

    4.5 was a nice playthrough, as someone who spent a loooot of time to 100% it(no cheesing, logged in everyday!) I learned a lot of how to optimize getting every license and how to fight every boss perfectly.
    You can sign up to 5 navis at a time for a License, but only 1 can be done per day up til Saturday/Sunday.
    The battlechip Counter will be your friend for everything.
    The AI is janky, but can be manipulated well if you know what you're doing, like, if you have holes on the field and can't move too good and an attack is coming, suddenly a panel opens up, you can set the distance and enemy youre focusing on, use the buster and the navi teleports to that space!
    Basically I enjoyed 4.5 a lot more than other daily kinda games, it was fun, i built gimmicky folders for certain navis, got to play as Bass! Etcetc

  • @woot2200
    @woot2200 2 місяці тому +4

    39:30
    THEY HAVE A SPEED STAT?!

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Місяць тому

    No way my dude just dissed Quick Man’s Stage. It’s iconic

  • @yaggaman1914
    @yaggaman1914 2 місяці тому

    battle network chip challenge and 4.5 were like the best ones since in its the closest to the show of having to map out what your navi does

  • @EonAegis
    @EonAegis 2 місяці тому

    I grew up on Battlechip Challenge! The game basically plays itself once you get D Level. All you really need to do is beat your face into Woodman until he gives in, then get a few treebom chips of any level. They are powered up by being the same element as woodman, and will absolutely wipe all your enemy chips, causing you to just mercilessly beat down on practically anything in the game. You can hold onto this "strategy" even when woodman is elementally disadvantageous or the enemies are all about shielding, because chip wiping like this is just that strong.
    I have a soft spot for the game, but honestly it's not very good :')

  • @jxbermudez
    @jxbermudez 2 місяці тому +2

    WE MEGAING OUR MAN WITH THIS ONE BOIS

    • @Q-gf8vb
      @Q-gf8vb 2 місяці тому

      🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @bluphantomexe8279
    @bluphantomexe8279 2 місяці тому

    Mind you those novelties for 4.5 are VERY EXPENSIVE but with it especially since they work on international 4, 5, and even with the international chips! So worth it LUL

  • @BeyondPolygons
    @BeyondPolygons 2 місяці тому

    I honestly enjoy Battle Chip Challenge. Made a deck based around Number Man. But yeah your critiques weren’t too off base but I do think it had potential!