Joe Buck’s 50 GREATEST Calls of All Time

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  • @sports3117
    @sports3117 Рік тому +443

    Early in his career, he was rather pedestrian with showing genuine emotion. But ever since 2012, he’s stepped up big time and not letting any insecurities get into his head and now he’s one of the best out there

    • @inigomontoya7462
      @inigomontoya7462 4 місяці тому +39

      Exactly, he got so much better after the throat/vocal cord problem he suffered after botched hair plugs in 2011

    • @redpillfreedom6692
      @redpillfreedom6692 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@inigomontoya7462Why would botched hair plugs cause a vocal cord problem?

    • @robustbottlecap
      @robustbottlecap 3 місяці тому +9

      I don't think he needs to.
      He's a "presenting" type of commentating rather than the "reactionary" type
      Like his commentary in ESPN's NFL games are quite off, because sometimes he's being emotional for no reason
      He just needs to adjust his commentary accordingly to the moments and not being too real to himself, IMO

    • @inigomontoya7462
      @inigomontoya7462 3 місяці тому

      @@redpillfreedom6692 SI has an old article on it: “A few weeks before the start of the 2011 baseball season, Buck underwent his eighth hair replacement procedure. But something went wrong during the six-hour-plus procedure. When he woke up from the anesthetic, Buck could not speak. He believes his vocal cord was paralyzed because of a cuff the surgery center used to protect him during the procedure. A doctor not part of the operation theorized to Buck that the cuff probably got jostled during the procedure and sat on the nerve responsible for firing his left vocal cord.”

    • @clark5137
      @clark5137 2 місяці тому +6

      @@robustbottlecapI can definitely see that. I do think he’s been “over-commentating” a little bit as of recently. His best calls IMO are the huge games he calls where he lets the moment speak for itself with some awesome well timed commentary. That Marshawn Lynch touchdown in the 2014 NFCCG is probably the best example of that.

  • @BisonGaming3334
    @BisonGaming3334 7 місяців тому +284

    Honorable mention: "That is a disgusting act by Randy Moss"

    • @SW-fk1xo
      @SW-fk1xo Місяць тому

      That’s because Joe Buck knows more than team announcers (but he just didn’t know GB fans frequently moon away teams buses at Lambeau)
      But he’s still the BEST - booster seat and all

    • @Mythowars
      @Mythowars Місяць тому +2

      @@SW-fk1xohe kinda ruined that epic moment thought by putting in his 2 cents on the matter.

    • @mirzetsalihovic1
      @mirzetsalihovic1 27 днів тому

      Should be number 1 lol

    • @DifferentFan0
      @DifferentFan0 17 днів тому +2

      He was so lame for that 🤣

  • @coreyrowe4119
    @coreyrowe4119 Місяць тому +58

    Glad to see Buck's call of the Cubs winning the World Series got the #2 spot, for all the grief he got over the years he couldn't have captured that moment any more perfectly.

  • @X-menfan91802
    @X-menfan91802 8 місяців тому +96

    6:19 "GOT IT!!" There's something I thought I'd never see Joe Buck announce in sports history. Normally I know Joe for doing baseball and football, but not golf. But man, I love how he said "GOT IT!!" when Gary Woodland sank that putt!

    • @shinydavidhowell
      @shinydavidhowell 2 місяці тому

      Buck on golf - and Fox on golf, honestly - was an experiment that probably ended too soon. Very glad this call was there!

  • @playboysammy326
    @playboysammy326 Місяць тому +11

    Joe's voice is iconic... He is magnificent at his job & he nails the big moment now

  • @terryhall7071
    @terryhall7071 8 місяців тому +50

    I miss him doing baseball ever since he went to ESPN. They should’ve offered him the Sunday Night Baseball gig along with Monday Night football.

  • @jarletheaton2860
    @jarletheaton2860 9 місяців тому +125

    Joe Buck gets far too much criticism imo, me included from previous years. From 2010 onwards I think he's one of the very best to do it. The fact I could recite at least 30 of these shows you just how good he is.

    • @shinydavidhowell
      @shinydavidhowell 2 місяці тому +5

      I really think his early career was held back by having Pat Summerall as the obvious go-to model within Fox, and with learning football on the job that meant an awful lot. Very few announcers can make that level of minimalism work, and Buck wasn't one of them. He's stopped being imitation Pat for 15-ish years now and he's all the better for it, and somehow I think an amazing number of people still think he never changed even as the change happened in front of the biggest audiences in television.

    • @FungiRy91
      @FungiRy91 Місяць тому +4

      😂😂 Him and Aikman are the worst. Nobody messes up more each game than Joe either. 😂

    • @jarletheaton2860
      @jarletheaton2860 Місяць тому +6

      @@FungiRy91massively disagree mate. He’s worked on his craft and I think ever since his move to ESPN in particular he’s been reborn. An unbelievable announcer.

    • @radmilk73
      @radmilk73 Місяць тому

      It’s aikman who’s inept!! Joe buck is fine.

    • @TheSeahawksDidntRunTheBall
      @TheSeahawksDidntRunTheBall Місяць тому +1

      @@FungiRy91Get out off 2010 brodie.

  • @imaboss6244
    @imaboss6244 Місяць тому +18

    As a Vikings fan, #1 gives my chills every time. Though #19 and the interception that came before it give me nightmares

  • @Moose6340
    @Moose6340 Місяць тому +25

    I've been one of the guys who criticized Buck early on, and I still think his sparse kind of style lends itself better to baseball than football. But there's no denying that he's stepped up his game with calls like the Minneapolis Miracle.

    • @mm6461
      @mm6461 Місяць тому

      Buck sucks

  • @user-gz2it1te5r
    @user-gz2it1te5r 5 місяців тому +40

    LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM, JOE BUCK IS A PRO AT HIS JOB.

  • @RickinBaltimore
    @RickinBaltimore Місяць тому +7

    12:52 - Like father, like son

  • @robustbottlecap
    @robustbottlecap 5 місяців тому +56

    7:57 & 8:18
    2 of the most iconic closing calls of any sports game, ever

    • @real_kerbzYT
      @real_kerbzYT Місяць тому +3

      i have NEVER heard either of these😭🙏💀

    • @crishdz23
      @crishdz23 Місяць тому +6

      @@real_kerbzYTsame, he’s probably just biased with the Red Sox🤡🤦‍♂️

    • @nicholashalom1632
      @nicholashalom1632 Місяць тому +1

      Sorry, but 12:58 wins. Not that those 2 are any less important!

    • @finsforthewin18
      @finsforthewin18 Місяць тому

      There are some good Yankees World Series winning calls

    • @user-wq9gp2ve6l
      @user-wq9gp2ve6l Місяць тому

      ​@finsforthewin18 the only thing Good related to the Yankees is their losses

  • @rickyricky7159
    @rickyricky7159 Місяць тому +7

    The Michael Cole of the NFL legend

  • @Shisui805
    @Shisui805 Місяць тому +8

    maybe i’m looking to far into it but hearing buck say “the grand slam” gives me chills every time

  • @CoreyBlase
    @CoreyBlase Місяць тому +12

    Mark McGwire's 62 is waaaaay too low. That was a masterclass by Buck

  • @q-dawwg626
    @q-dawwg626 Місяць тому +5

    MANNING LOBS IT, BURRESS ALONE.....TOUCHDOWN NEW YORK!!!
    My favorite call before my Pops passed away he was so happy

  • @CoolGorillaGoAnimate7000
    @CoolGorillaGoAnimate7000 2 місяці тому +12

    It took a long time for Joe Buck to blossom. But when he did, he gave us some amazing calls like the end of the 108 year drought and Minneapolis Miracle. It only got better when he moved to ESPN, where i think he's at his best currently.
    Also the man can beat someone in a roast battle. 😂

  • @Realdealrob
    @Realdealrob Місяць тому +10

    That cubs team in 2016 are the best ever to come back in games. They did it all season! Winning the World Series is one of the greatest moments in sports history.

    • @Milehighmez15
      @Milehighmez15 Місяць тому

      Maybe for you Cubs fans, lol.

    • @sooners2037
      @sooners2037 4 дні тому

      Not even close
      Red Sox’s were down 3-0 to the Yankees ended up winning the Alcs in 7 games to go and beat the Cardinals in the 2004 World Series.
      Cleveland Cavaliers were down 3-1 in the NBA finals to the 73-9 Warriors and came back and won in 7 games in 2016
      The LA Kings were down 3-0 in the playoffs in the NHL and won their series it occured in the 2010s
      What the cubs did was significant by winning the series down 3-1 but in terms of magnitude it’s not the best

    • @sooners2037
      @sooners2037 4 дні тому

      The reason why I don’t include the 2016 Golden state Warriors despite being down 3-1 to Oklahoma City is because they lost to Cleveland in the NbA finals. Every team that I listed won their leagues championship that season.

    • @sooners2037
      @sooners2037 4 дні тому

      LA Kings was 2014

  • @NewtownFootballNetwork
    @NewtownFootballNetwork 3 місяці тому +16

    Now you just have to add, "Nearside, I don't see any flags, Gipson inside the 30, its the Jets, AND HES GONNA GO!!! JETS WIN IT! TOUCHDOWN! ROOKIE XAVIER GIPSON GAME OVER!"

  • @AngelRodriguez-wv1sn
    @AngelRodriguez-wv1sn Місяць тому +3

    As a Seahawks fan hearing “Seattle’s going to the Super Bowl” forever lives in my head.

  • @ahhhyuppp6400
    @ahhhyuppp6400 3 дні тому

    I love how he lets the crowd takeover. Lets the moment breathe.
    Best announcer ever

  • @Natrix7053
    @Natrix7053 Місяць тому +5

    50-41 felt like all Packer pain

  • @jacobrichardson1952
    @jacobrichardson1952 Місяць тому +3

    For my 23 years of watching MLB on FOX hearing Joe Buck brings back memories especially the ejections and benches clear.
    World Series as well.

  • @AlanFernandoGamino
    @AlanFernandoGamino 10 місяців тому +17

    11:03 "ALTUVE!!! HAS JUST SENT THE ASTROS TO THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!"

    • @AAli220
      @AAli220 8 місяців тому +9

      Thanks for the trigger warning

    • @tallmadgeinsanityanimation9005
      @tallmadgeinsanityanimation9005 3 місяці тому +1

      sent*

    • @jonpinyan
      @jonpinyan Місяць тому +2

      Putting that right after the Rajai Davis home run, so we get back-to-back Aroldis Chapman blank stares was beautiful.

  • @GeraldFord714
    @GeraldFord714 3 місяці тому +7

    8:30 One of my favorite calls in sports history.

    • @npestafan
      @npestafan 3 місяці тому

      even as a cardinals fan i do agree

    • @planesrkool2727
      @planesrkool2727 Місяць тому

      I love the way he says “high drive into right” with confidence

  • @sportsmaster1364
    @sportsmaster1364 11 днів тому

    It seemed like overcoming that vocal chord ailment he had in 2011 gave him a new perspective with having his voice fully back. 2012-onwards Joe Buck is definitely one of the top voices out there, with so many big-moment calls. Big Papi grand slam, Ishikawa wins the pennant, the Cubs 2016 run in general, the Minneapolis Miracle, 28-3, the list goes on and on.

  • @bk7064
    @bk7064 Місяць тому +6

    I know the Cubs win was special but his best call that night was the David homerun late to tie the game. Should've put that one in honestly.

    • @nolanjordan1930
      @nolanjordan1930 Місяць тому

      It is in here 10:42

    • @bk7064
      @bk7064 Місяць тому

      ​@@nolanjordan1930Thanks brother! 👌

  • @Jose-Gomez
    @Jose-Gomez 5 місяців тому +17

    Joe Buck...
    THE GREATEST, BRODCASTER, OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @markbay9275
    @markbay9275 8 місяців тому +5

    Buck is great. Hes among the best.

  • @sportsandstuff99
    @sportsandstuff99 9 місяців тому +44

    We all knew what #1 was, all-time call

    • @ted1794
      @ted1794 Місяць тому +2

      Was thinking that the entire time. My favorite call of all time

  • @joseph3992
    @joseph3992 16 днів тому

    7:27 not even a cards fan but something ab this call gives me chills everytime

  • @blind_t2
    @blind_t2 Місяць тому +1

    I gotta say his homage to his father was class.

  • @raybaker8653
    @raybaker8653 Місяць тому +2

    I cannot believe this man stopped calling MLB games

  • @elijahgiter9559
    @elijahgiter9559 24 дні тому

    How could, "we will see you tomorrow night." Not get the top spot? By far his best call and a great omage to his late father and he's a cardinals fan as he was their play by play guy for a number of years... epic.

  • @StevenRose-hy2jx
    @StevenRose-hy2jx 25 днів тому +1

    Diggs, Sideline, Touchdown 😎SKOL

  • @josephhenderson5800
    @josephhenderson5800 3 місяці тому +6

    Imagine if ESPN aired the Super Bowl, Joe Buck would be there calling it

    • @shinydavidhowell
      @shinydavidhowell 2 місяці тому +4

      Actually happening! There's going to be a four-network rotation in the future under the latest TV deal; Super Bowl LXI in 2027 is the first ABC appearance in that rotation.

    • @josephhenderson5800
      @josephhenderson5800 2 місяці тому

      SWEET😎🏈

    • @godkinghell15
      @godkinghell15 27 днів тому

      Since when there's a super bowl in ABC

    • @josephhenderson5800
      @josephhenderson5800 27 днів тому

      Beginning with Super Bowl 61 in 2027

  • @nickturcotte12
    @nickturcotte12 Місяць тому

    Every call by this man is the greatest of all time. He's the Morgan freeman of sports broadcasting. Idk why everyone hates on Joe Buck. His voice is amazing

  • @chrisnussbaumer9516
    @chrisnussbaumer9516 7 днів тому

    Loved his response to Peyton Manning, who asked him, "During blowout games, do you ever wish you could have someone in the booth to interview?"
    Joe Buck: "I had that thought when your Broncos were playing the Seahawks in the Super Bowl."😂

  • @robloxvids2233
    @robloxvids2233 Місяць тому +3

    Mitchell....Mitchell.....MITCHELL.

  • @supermario_49
    @supermario_49 20 днів тому +1

    I honestly miss Joe Buck

  • @hunterhauser5988
    @hunterhauser5988 Місяць тому +1

    Idk how you made this without your ears bleeding

  • @JediPhoenix1976
    @JediPhoenix1976 18 днів тому

    I was happy to see Ortiz's grand slam in the 2013 ALCS make the top 5 - Buck's call and tone of voice really set the scene to match how hard Fenway Park was rocking - but I would have put the Cubs winning the World Series as Number 1.

  • @aegis-merogi4760
    @aegis-merogi4760 Місяць тому +1

    You just knew that #1 was gonna be the Minneapolis miracle

  • @gardyminshew3724
    @gardyminshew3724 Місяць тому +1

    pass is caught... Diggs... SIDELINE, TOUCHDOWN, UNBELIEVABLE, VIKINGS WIN IT!
    Probably the best call in sports.

  • @thatstheway2429
    @thatstheway2429 23 дні тому

    Man basketball and football may be more entertaining moment to moment, but there is nothing as epic as a game-defining, playoff baseball moment.
    Travis Ishikawa. Rajai Davis. Freese. Montero.
    Unsung heroes man.

    • @amd1273
      @amd1273 19 днів тому +1

      That ishikawa homer gives me goosebumps to this day

  • @Steventhe2nd
    @Steventhe2nd 4 місяці тому +3

    NFL on Fox isn't the same without him....

  • @Kingflowh
    @Kingflowh 22 дні тому +1

    I ain't never seen him hype in baseball game😭

  • @thabeaststl3703
    @thabeaststl3703 16 днів тому

    His Dad like Vin Scully were two of the greats. Jack was the voice of many of my summers growing up! Hate on Joe as much as you want.....Joe is good....very good!

  • @user-dy6wn4gu9c
    @user-dy6wn4gu9c Місяць тому

    Buck is honestly the GOAT commentator

  • @jasonbrad3194
    @jasonbrad3194 Місяць тому +1

    Love all the astros highlights, easily the best dynasty ever and best team!! No other team even compares

  • @lannce516
    @lannce516 Місяць тому +3

    All those 2017 World Series Game 5 calls were for nothing

  • @leifopstad2972
    @leifopstad2972 4 місяці тому +4

    #49, #47, #45, #38, #13, #11, #8, and #2 are my favorites.
    Also would like to see Al MIchaels' 50 Greatest calls of all time

    • @pdawg193
      @pdawg193 3 місяці тому +1

      Also, Gus Johnson, Verne Lundquist, and Sean McDonough.

    • @shiskey54
      @shiskey54 Місяць тому +1

      Al Michael number one would be Super Bowl 43.

    • @leifopstad2972
      @leifopstad2972 Місяць тому +1

      @@shiskey54 that call is great, but the Miracle on Ice call has to be number 1

  • @casualgamerthatsucks6576
    @casualgamerthatsucks6576 2 місяці тому

    Joe Buck is one of my favorite announcers of all time

  • @church213
    @church213 11 днів тому

    Jim Leyritz's HR in the 1996 World Series not being on this list is criminal

  • @raulcastro1300
    @raulcastro1300 Місяць тому

    Joe Buck really is one of the greatest ever man. He’s alwaysssss in his bag calling baseball games

  • @Andrewmehr_
    @Andrewmehr_ 26 днів тому +1

    I thank God everyday joe buck doesn't do NBA, I'm sorry but he just takes away from so many of these big moments.

  • @IamChrisL712
    @IamChrisL712 Місяць тому

    Brandon Woodruff HR off Kershaw in game one of the 2018 NLCS is my fave. Didn't see it here

  • @bulldogbobinmath
    @bulldogbobinmath Місяць тому +1

    I would’ve found room on this list for his call of jorge soler’s game 6 homer in the 2021 WS

  • @sactoindyfan
    @sactoindyfan Місяць тому +1

    No way the Diamondbacks WS winner call is lower than the Yankees winning in 1996, let alone most others. When you defeat a 3-time defending World Series winner with a walk-off, plus coming out of 9/11, automatic top-5!

  • @EpticSkiJump
    @EpticSkiJump Місяць тому +1

    As a White Sox fan, glad you included the "Corn Game," but nothing from the 2005 run? Check the Podsednik call - legendary.

  • @kjothomas
    @kjothomas Місяць тому

    NO FLAGS!

  • @rjpsuh06
    @rjpsuh06 9 місяців тому +1

    Here are some Joe Buck calls from baseball (honorable mentions):
    Mark Whiten’s 4 homer game against the Reds, 1993 (watch till the end): ua-cam.com/video/KlZNCjURSWk/v-deo.htmlsi=YacJ8s45PGnl3HvY
    Jim Leyritz’s HR in Game 4 of the 1996 World Series: ua-cam.com/video/k5Xl4VvgU_w/v-deo.htmlsi=y9JteQW9jbyo2h5L

  • @rodrigochavarrialeal395
    @rodrigochavarrialeal395 4 місяці тому

    Now in ESPN on Monday Night Football with Troy Aikman

  • @theofficialkingsteph30
    @theofficialkingsteph30 3 місяці тому

    My favorite Joe Buck calls are #7,2,and 1

  • @paullupo756
    @paullupo756 26 днів тому

    The Tampa Bay vs Green Bay game was the biggest fix to make sure that Tom Brady was the first quarterback to play the Superbowl in his own stadium

  • @TeflonCane
    @TeflonCane 2 місяці тому

    The voice of my childhood

  • @boogieturner7447
    @boogieturner7447 25 днів тому

    no way you dont have the rams niners ‘22 nfc championship finale in here. great call by buck

  • @SW-fk1xo
    @SW-fk1xo Місяць тому

    Was this produced by amazing Joe himself? Because it’s the BEST UA-cam video ever made!!!
    Get a biography ever play!!

  • @laraia98
    @laraia98 Місяць тому +1

    Surprised you found 50

  • @IgnoringPhDvideo
    @IgnoringPhDvideo 9 місяців тому +2

    I never understood the hate on Joe Buck. He’s definitely better than guys like Matt Vasgersian or Joe Davis who seem to think the key to good announcing is just screaming as loudly as possible

  • @MarkSmith-ok1yi
    @MarkSmith-ok1yi Місяць тому +1

    There were several calls from the Braves 2021 World Series that should be in here.

  • @jarrodheffron1414
    @jarrodheffron1414 26 днів тому

    Im definitely more of a fan of him calling baseball. Im not even sure why. His best call ever was that Cardinals/Rangers World Series game, hands down.

  • @tomdorsa3885
    @tomdorsa3885 Місяць тому

    the brett phillips walkoff in the world series might have been his best call, just for the sheet chaos of the situation and how on top of things he was despite that

  • @alfonsogreen2722
    @alfonsogreen2722 2 місяці тому

    He should start calling NBA & College basketball games

  • @danlapidus3827
    @danlapidus3827 Місяць тому

    I would've put the Freese walkoff as number, but can't argue with this list

  • @TheMan750
    @TheMan750 Місяць тому +1

    All I’ve seen is that Joe Buck has called a lot of Green Bay’s misery in the playoffs

  • @gunnerocks
    @gunnerocks Місяць тому

    So many Green Bay Packers moments... Good and bad we've been through it all

  • @kang5302
    @kang5302 Місяць тому

    #42 cut out the best part hoFUnngaaa🤣

  • @DaleFrancum
    @DaleFrancum Місяць тому

    Saw quite a few Astros highlights in here. Just a quick reminder for people watching this and for everyone else in the world as well, the Astros do need to return that 2017 trophy. Oh and also the Astros are pure evil.

  • @jesseturner6785
    @jesseturner6785 Місяць тому +1

    No love for "Caught by Tyree!"?

  • @switchintoglide1
    @switchintoglide1 Місяць тому

    Honorable mention: 2008 NLCS. Stairs rips one into the night”

  • @arturobalderrama-perez92
    @arturobalderrama-perez92 15 днів тому

    #30 My favorite
    Floater, centerfield, the Diamondbacks are world champions

  • @playboysammy326
    @playboysammy326 Місяць тому +1

    Its Caught DIGGS, SIDELINE, TOUCHDOWN, VIKINGS WIN IT 🔥🔥🔥

  • @MohammedKhaja-dn4qe
    @MohammedKhaja-dn4qe 5 місяців тому +1

    I wish Buck still called the World Series

  • @JonesDylan874
    @JonesDylan874 2 місяці тому

    I used to hate this announcer, now I think he's underrated, actually, no, he may be one of the best now. ESPN really brought the power in his voice. I still quote some of these calls to this day. #1 will always be his best call.

  • @xxCrunchY
    @xxCrunchY 2 місяці тому +1

    As "bad" as a call it is, the Randy Moss moon call should be on here

  • @NFL_guy679
    @NFL_guy679 3 місяці тому +1

    I never knew that Joe Buck called golf.

  • @DEARavens07
    @DEARavens07 5 місяців тому

    One call that is missing here is Howie Kendrick's Game 7 Seventh Inning home run in the 2019 World Series.

  • @jeremyberry4907
    @jeremyberry4907 Місяць тому +1

    That call on Desean Jackson’s punt return is top notch

  • @nepatrul6075
    @nepatrul6075 Місяць тому

    His call of Big Papi’s 2004 walk off was better than #3 but it’s not even on the list. I have disagreements on rankings, but the only other thing I can think of that is missing entirely is his call of Wong getting picked off to end the game in 2013.

  • @LittleDebs.
    @LittleDebs. 5 місяців тому

    Have of these are with the packers or against

  • @austin.draude
    @austin.draude 4 дні тому

    I'll admit, I'm surprised the Yankees 1996 clincher made the list. Not that it's a poor call, there's just nothing about it that jumps out at me. A lot of his earlier calls were like that.

  • @spenceroneil4747
    @spenceroneil4747 Місяць тому

    #3 and #2 should be first and second. Both clear the choice for #1

  • @leemcdonald1342
    @leemcdonald1342 Місяць тому

    #30 Best day of my life!

  • @stevejones6247
    @stevejones6247 Місяць тому

    I can't believe the 2016 World Series is number 2 .for sure I thought it would be number 1

  • @devinrogers7978
    @devinrogers7978 10 місяців тому +2

    Someone could have potentially chased down Jackson though!…🤣🤣

  • @Yodanorris325
    @Yodanorris325 7 днів тому

    My favorite one is: Mitchell... Mitchell... Mitchell...

  • @codyeble6764
    @codyeble6764 Місяць тому

    Greatest and Joe Buck are oxymoronic

  • @RyanCT89
    @RyanCT89 20 днів тому

    Where’s “Mitchell… Mitchell… Mitchell.”? His best call. Thought it’d be #1.

  • @npestafan
    @npestafan 3 місяці тому +1

    he's really not that bad guys. he was garbage in the 2000s, but since the 2010s he's not that bad. i will admit "back at the wall" is annoying but still he's not too bad