@@insertcognomen "If one survives" is the phrase from the movie. According to another post the way they reproduce is 2 merge together, then they split into 3-5 'children' who have the combined knowledge of their parents.
The real goal is that this is an indoctrination training simulator... with a bonus objective. The point is to get them to identify with the Trisolaran, the San-Ti. They are a nameless faceless identity, so this game gives them an identity - all with a particularly unique girl, which is indicative of its designer. That's more of an easter egg though, as she's immediately sacrificed in level 1, but also persistent over EVERY failure. The point is to explain why they're invading and why they have to. There is no solution to the three-body problem, it's a thought experiment with no known solution. The actual real life theorem is something to checkout here. Practically speaking even if they solved it, that planet cannot sustain life through so many unique cataclysms, all of which are shown. "If one survives they all survive"... that's because they can be rehydrated. But in this unique anti-gravity situation, rehydration won't work if they are lifted off world. Certain cataclysms are so inherently destructive they lose everything... and there may be more. The computer army also mirror the Trisolaran themselves - they think as a hive mind, like a computer, they're "one". There is no separation between them, which is why their leader can give orders to so many all at once. They're fundamentally connected. They rely on "guests" to solve the 3-body problem, which are likely divergent thinkers or a subset of their best minds, but they're still attached. They favor these thinkers because that's how the Trisolaran work, they don't favor humans solving issues because typically we aren't necessarily smarter than them, as they are more methodical... though it's suggested that they went through many periods of similar religious doctrine before they advanced past it. But they do note that brain activity in the subject here was record high, suggesting that they are very interested in our problem solving ability... and how much they identify with the girl, who is a symbolic representation of their own race. A child-like voice, omnipotent, who's begging for help. It's meant to invoke the deaths of their own "children". And there's a secret "bonus". If a subject were to solve the 3 body problem, or even better, contextualize a better answer to a question they failed to ask appropriately - they could theoretically save the original Trisolaran's... who notably are likely the pacifists who stayed behind. Their culture split, the invaders on ships, but many stayed. Why? Likely because they disagreed with the abandoning of their home and the conquering of another. Whether that sentiment stayed is unknown, but given that there are 2 sophon computers, likely one at home and one flying, if a user COULD solve the 3-body problem it would be VERY useful for the people at home. As an experiment it has no solution, the point of it is that it degrades - but a user could, theoretically, come up with a way to fix their original homeworld... or give them data that could be used for them to develop their own solution. Humans are unique, their technology may be primitive but their minds may prove useful. That's likely a distant hope, but should someone ever solve the issue of survival in such a unique way they'd be taking notes. They'd also refine the simulation to be more effective that way, with better themes and less ways to "game" the game. This likely doesn't happen much given how advanced their technology is, having been refined by earth sympathizers. But it likely has been updated several times - and perhaps some insights gleaned they might not have thought of. It also gives them a VERY vivid analysis of human behavior to send back - and how they might respond to the idea of the Trisolaran. They avoid showing their true form because they aim to indoctrinate with this program. But the individual level solution is that survival is not possible given the scenario, and that saving the planet is not a priority. This was the realization of the Trisolaran and what they based their society's plan on - but one could also go another way and ask yourself, "what would you have done?" The answer a person gives here may be more important because there may be another way to avoid total destruction. If someone were to say, "Make a dyson sphere, turning a planet into a space ship" or "use ships in superposition to determine predictive paths" they would listen. That might even be possible and get them slapping themselves in the forehead. But the game ends too quickly for anyone to test that theory - and the boiling alive was meant to give humans this advanced more reason to empathize with the pain of being a Trisolaran... and how seductive calculus was to them before gravity destroyed their civilization utterly. Probably took them AGES to fix that. They're also tracking how many times it takes average humans to solve the issue - and it's in the hundred. "You're running out of time" suggests that the cataclysms are happening the same way they did on their homeworld. This is a historical reenactment of their own struggle, complete with correct details - as to give people more data to work with, once they learn to start track... as their society likely did. This is also why people see countdowns - it's reflecting their own fear of the clock. Lotta layers to unpack here, you can go on and on. The point of the games is to indoctrinate people to agree, wholly, with the Trisolaran's chain of reasoning... and possibly fish for a better answer.
That's what level three was, a metaphor for them discovering calculus and computing in an attempt to predict stable and chaotic eras. The issue is that in the show and in real life, a three body problem is impossible to calculate indefinitely.
gravity doesn't work like that. a star's gravity is negligible on the surface of a planet. on earth, it's a tenth of thousandth of the earth's own gravity. line up three stars, it's three tens of thousandth (actually less because they'd be at greater distances). unless the planet was a lot closer to the stars, in which case the rock would just melt for the heat. but the most damning thing of it all, if the gravity of the star was actually able to pull people upward, it would also pull away the atmosphere. and the water. and the ground. the whole planet would get splattered into a set of rings. it's actually what happens when a moon moves closer than the roche limit, the limit at which the gravity of the planet is stronger than the gravity of the moon on its surface. the whole celestial body is reduced to rubble.
yep, this was below high school level physics right here, and I was disappointed too when I watched it. Don't get me wrong, I like the visual, but it doesn't make any sense. It would make sense if there was a spaceship up there with a powerful tractor beam which would target only humans and animals.
to my knowledge, this is a game. The game is meant as an ad for humans to create empathy for the aliens. So the game doesnt have to be realistic In the book, for what I have heard, when this event happened, the planet got divided into two. The smaller piece became a moon.
“How the Hell do we do that? Nothing can survive here!” “Well we’ll have to rush mining tech. Underground bunkers. After that we need to rush space tech so we can get into orbit. But once we pull that off it’ll be pretty easy, we’ll just have to - “ “O’Neill cylinders! Right! Those are actually pretty easy to make. Hell we could make them on Earth right now with our current level of tech if money wasn’t an issue.” “Exactly, and money won’t be here since this is existential survival we’re talking about.” “I was worried we might have to colonize another star system.” “What? Hell no! I mean maybe eventually, but O’Neill cylinders are easy to build and will help us right now. We could build thousands, each holding millions of people, in relatively short order. By the time we’re able to travel to other star systems it’ll be fore pure exploration, we’ll long since have saved everyone on the planet from the three suns.” “Yeah. In hindsight resorting to traveling the vast distances between star systems to colonize another world when it would be so much faster and safer and cheaper to just build O’Neill cylinders is the only thing that makes sense.” “We’d have to be objectively stupid to not think that up first. Like to the point of being a transparent plot contrivance in a book.” _Meanwhile…_ Sophon listened intently to the conversation. “Shit, they’re right,” it said, and relayed the information to its Trisolaran masters via quantum entanglement (ignoring that quantum entanglement doesn’t work that way). _Soon…_ The Trisolarans listened to Sophon. “Well…shit,” one said. “We really are kind of objectively stupid for going all the way to dimensional folding and invading another planet instead of just building O’Neill cylinders.” “Truth,” admitted another. “Of course it’s the truth, we’re objectively incapable of lying, dumbass.” “We don’t even have asses.” “I for one,” said a third, “am just sad that we won’t be able to finally rescue those poor people on Gilligan’s Isle.”
una vez su sistema solar tuvo 12 planetas... ahora solo queda trisolaris, los otros fueron tragados por los soles la superficie de su planeta ya es muy inestable, un eclipse triple mas y se partirá por la mitad
@@percivaldarkus3537 I mean I also feel a need to bring up the fact that any species that has the ability to fold a planet-sized computer down to the size of a single proton shouldn't have a problem disassembling a star or two, either, which should also allow them to handily solve their three-body problem *while also* giving them plenty of raw material to build O'Neill cylinders or even entire planets. _ALSO_ need to bring up that supposedly the Trisolarans are from Alpha Centauri, but the Alpha Centauri system _is not a three-body system_ as it was described in the book. Alpha Centauri A and B exist in a stable two-body orbit with each other, while Proxima Centauri orbits the two at such a huge distance that from Earth it appears to be four entire lunar diameters distant from A and B. Insystem, Proxima is 13,000 AU distant from A and B - 1/5th of a light year, or 430 times the radius of Neptune's orbit. It takes more than half a million years for Proxima to orbit A and B. If the miniseries changes the Trisolarans to be from some other star system than Centauri then their decision to invade Earth makes even _less_ sense, because it measn that to get from whatever system they're from to Sol would necessarily have required passing by like at least a dozen star systems each with abundant mineral resources for building artificial colonies. I do not care much for this book, is my point. For all its interesting ideas, it lacks _imagination._
@@percivaldarkus3537 Water is cosmically abundant, the only thing that's rare is its liquid form (it's much more commonly ice), but I have to imagine that any species that has invented ships capable of bridging the vast distances between the stars has also invented space heaters. In just the Sol system, for example, just Saturn's rings alone have ten times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined. Jupiter's moon Europa, despite being only 0.8% the total mass of Earth, has twice the water/ice in its oceans compared to Earth's oceans. This is leaving aside the likelihood - Hell, the necessity, based on their observed tech in this book and later books, like the Droplet - that the Trisolarans are capable of nuclear fusion on a massive scale. They don't need to find water, they just need to find hydrogen (which comprises 90% of all atoms in the universe) and oxygen (also extremely common in the universe, 1% of all atoms, which might not sound like a lot but, trust me, it is) and start fusing them.
@@RogueShadows My brother in Christ, don't ever let logic and deeper understanding of reality/motivations get in the way of a good story. Of course once a civilization has the ability to travel interstellar distances they are far better off utilizing every atom in their own solar system before considering leaving, that's only good sense and efficient. But then we don't get the story of desperate aliens coming to boop us on the nose.
In the actual novel (which imo is way better than the show) the planet does get torn apart and eventually the larger of the 2 pieces turns into a smaller planet, and the other piece becomes like a giant moon.
That just makes it worse. The equation still can't be solved using algebra, and using computers to approximate them becomes woefully inaccurate over relevant timescales.
I've enjoyed the series so far, but this scene is silly. Even IF the alignment of all three stars succeeded in momentarily disrupting the planet's surface gravity, the entire planet would accelerate towards the aligned stars. The only way you'd have this effect would be if there was a meaningful difference between the gravitational force from the aligned stars acting on the planet's surface and an object on its surface. At the sort of distance you'd need to be at for the planet to remain habitable, I doubt a neutron star would be dense enough to create this effect.
@@eden20111 Whatever is written in the books, the physics don't make sense. Consider Newton's formula for universal gravitation F=G(m1*m2 / r^2). If we assume that m1 is some object on the surface of the planet, the gravitational force acting upon it is effectively F = G(m2/r^2). Since the planet isn't burning up when the alignment occurs, it's reasonable to assume there is a roughly Earth-like distance between it and the nearest star. In Earth's case, the Earth exerts roughly G(1.47 x 10^17) on an object at its surface. Our sun exerts roughly G(9.2 x 10^13) on that same object at perihelion. In other words, if you placed the mass of 1,000 identical stars inside the space our sun occupies at the point where Earth is closest in its orbit, it still wouldn't overwhelm the object's gravitational attraction toward the Earth, let alone start pulling objects off the Earth. Edit: To anyone who might criticize, I'm omitting units as I'm simply comparing magnitude
Wouldn't the suns apply the same acceleration to the planet and its inhabitants, i.e. people wouldn't start flying? There is no way the physics check out on this scene...
The computer game is allegorical. A sygzy event will typically raise mammoth tidal waves thousands of kms long , assuming the planet has water and may strip the planet of its atmosphere, at least the lighter gases. You are right, there is no way people can go flying upwards!!
@@sinancemyucel4644 The friction of tidal forces can cause a relatively light body orbiting a heavy one to match its rotation with its orbit. The Earth did this to the moon, which is why we talk about a dark side of the moon - it's the side that never faces the Earth and we always see the same side of it. But that doesn't happen quickly. There isn't anything that would cause this scene to happen as it did.
I really don't get the point of this game. If the object is to save as much of the alien civilization as possible, then shouldn't it be a "let's build a rocket ship" game?
no, the point is they want to test the player, do they sympathize with npc (civilians) with the game simulation that represent the 3 body problem that san ti has
This scene is from aliens created game's arc which is effectively a propaganda tool, explaining why they have to invade Earth and enlisting supporters (traitors) among human population. They just used familiar human historical figures and scenery to make it easier to digest for humans, but it actually shows the perils their own world (completely alien to human's mind) have had to go through till this day.
It basically tells how they lived. It's possible Wenji compelled them to reveal how they survived and included intricate details like the actual characters the Santi themselves. They cannot lie hence I believe it is one of the strategies Wenje sought to destroy them. Know your enemy. The only challenge is that they don't tell us how they look like. Unless in the half Canon spinoff 4th book.
@@KoflerDavid I think it was developed by them, with the help of the Sophons and Wenje. Though basically those NPCs are the actual Santi. For example, in the books lore the Santi have a leader called the Princeps, more like an emperor or King as shown in the Game. I this how Wenje discovered that they know about the dark forest/Fermi paradox theory. Thus use it to her advantage with Saul/Louji. Because those VR glasses can't be built with our technology, even software of the game it self. Moreover, when Wade discovered the harddrive in the Judgement Day boat belonging to Evans. He found more than 300 petabytes of data, most of which was the three body problem.
Ehh I liked the Netflix show better Tencent dragged on and just explained things over and over again and then flashbacks of the same scenes explaining over and over again with tons of Chinese censorship
They missed the epic part when he starts the computer, I want this in a scene
Isaac Newton looks suspiciously similar to Mycroft Holmes :P
isn't this the banker that gave Stannis and Cersei all that gold?
Lol, yep, Mark Gatiss, he's friends with the creators.
@@jeffbachman2949 If you're not trying to get Mark Gatiss into your sci-fi franchise, then you're doing it wrong.
No he is Mycroft, Sherlock's older brother.
Thats a solid incestment if there ever was one..
No. He's a vet that accidently kills all his animals.
So the goal is to have as many survive when there is no solution.
thats why they look up into the stars and find another solution, leave to another planet.
If one survives they all survive.
@@toddkes5890 so they reproduce by mitosis? otherwise you'd need 2 to survive
@@insertcognomen "If one survives" is the phrase from the movie. According to another post the way they reproduce is 2 merge together, then they split into 3-5 'children' who have the combined knowledge of their parents.
The real goal is that this is an indoctrination training simulator... with a bonus objective.
The point is to get them to identify with the Trisolaran, the San-Ti. They are a nameless faceless identity, so this game gives them an identity - all with a particularly unique girl, which is indicative of its designer. That's more of an easter egg though, as she's immediately sacrificed in level 1, but also persistent over EVERY failure.
The point is to explain why they're invading and why they have to. There is no solution to the three-body problem, it's a thought experiment with no known solution. The actual real life theorem is something to checkout here. Practically speaking even if they solved it, that planet cannot sustain life through so many unique cataclysms, all of which are shown.
"If one survives they all survive"... that's because they can be rehydrated. But in this unique anti-gravity situation, rehydration won't work if they are lifted off world. Certain cataclysms are so inherently destructive they lose everything... and there may be more.
The computer army also mirror the Trisolaran themselves - they think as a hive mind, like a computer, they're "one". There is no separation between them, which is why their leader can give orders to so many all at once. They're fundamentally connected. They rely on "guests" to solve the 3-body problem, which are likely divergent thinkers or a subset of their best minds, but they're still attached. They favor these thinkers because that's how the Trisolaran work, they don't favor humans solving issues because typically we aren't necessarily smarter than them, as they are more methodical... though it's suggested that they went through many periods of similar religious doctrine before they advanced past it.
But they do note that brain activity in the subject here was record high, suggesting that they are very interested in our problem solving ability... and how much they identify with the girl, who is a symbolic representation of their own race. A child-like voice, omnipotent, who's begging for help. It's meant to invoke the deaths of their own "children".
And there's a secret "bonus". If a subject were to solve the 3 body problem, or even better, contextualize a better answer to a question they failed to ask appropriately - they could theoretically save the original Trisolaran's... who notably are likely the pacifists who stayed behind. Their culture split, the invaders on ships, but many stayed. Why? Likely because they disagreed with the abandoning of their home and the conquering of another.
Whether that sentiment stayed is unknown, but given that there are 2 sophon computers, likely one at home and one flying, if a user COULD solve the 3-body problem it would be VERY useful for the people at home.
As an experiment it has no solution, the point of it is that it degrades - but a user could, theoretically, come up with a way to fix their original homeworld... or give them data that could be used for them to develop their own solution. Humans are unique, their technology may be primitive but their minds may prove useful. That's likely a distant hope, but should someone ever solve the issue of survival in such a unique way they'd be taking notes.
They'd also refine the simulation to be more effective that way, with better themes and less ways to "game" the game. This likely doesn't happen much given how advanced their technology is, having been refined by earth sympathizers. But it likely has been updated several times - and perhaps some insights gleaned they might not have thought of.
It also gives them a VERY vivid analysis of human behavior to send back - and how they might respond to the idea of the Trisolaran. They avoid showing their true form because they aim to indoctrinate with this program.
But the individual level solution is that survival is not possible given the scenario, and that saving the planet is not a priority. This was the realization of the Trisolaran and what they based their society's plan on - but one could also go another way and ask yourself, "what would you have done?"
The answer a person gives here may be more important because there may be another way to avoid total destruction.
If someone were to say, "Make a dyson sphere, turning a planet into a space ship" or "use ships in superposition to determine predictive paths" they would listen. That might even be possible and get them slapping themselves in the forehead.
But the game ends too quickly for anyone to test that theory - and the boiling alive was meant to give humans this advanced more reason to empathize with the pain of being a Trisolaran... and how seductive calculus was to them before gravity destroyed their civilization utterly. Probably took them AGES to fix that.
They're also tracking how many times it takes average humans to solve the issue - and it's in the hundred. "You're running out of time" suggests that the cataclysms are happening the same way they did on their homeworld. This is a historical reenactment of their own struggle, complete with correct details - as to give people more data to work with, once they learn to start track... as their society likely did. This is also why people see countdowns - it's reflecting their own fear of the clock.
Lotta layers to unpack here, you can go on and on.
The point of the games is to indoctrinate people to agree, wholly, with the Trisolaran's chain of reasoning... and possibly fish for a better answer.
I never thought Reece Shearsmith would be in this show. What a surprise
Well he is bch, get use to it
Imagine being on the otherside of the planet. Everything got squeezed into juice
2:24 I like how the girl doesn't try to reach out when she tries to catch her and then when it's too late she actually tries to, lol
이 장면은 원작의 묘사를 그대로 쓰는 것이 더 재밌었을 듯 합니다. 인간으로 만든 컴퓨터가 참 인상깊었는데
That part's in the show too, but it's in a different game session.
I love the computer scene music so much. Please share it with us
If their civilization is close to ours best solution would be to give the functioning to a computer.
That's what level three was, a metaphor for them discovering calculus and computing in an attempt to predict stable and chaotic eras. The issue is that in the show and in real life, a three body problem is impossible to calculate indefinitely.
gravity doesn't work like that.
a star's gravity is negligible on the surface of a planet. on earth, it's a tenth of thousandth of the earth's own gravity. line up three stars, it's three tens of thousandth (actually less because they'd be at greater distances). unless the planet was a lot closer to the stars, in which case the rock would just melt for the heat.
but the most damning thing of it all, if the gravity of the star was actually able to pull people upward, it would also pull away the atmosphere. and the water. and the ground. the whole planet would get splattered into a set of rings. it's actually what happens when a moon moves closer than the roche limit, the limit at which the gravity of the planet is stronger than the gravity of the moon on its surface. the whole celestial body is reduced to rubble.
yep, this was below high school level physics right here, and I was disappointed too when I watched it. Don't get me wrong, I like the visual, but it doesn't make any sense. It would make sense if there was a spaceship up there with a powerful tractor beam which would target only humans and animals.
to my knowledge, this is a game. The game is meant as an ad for humans to create empathy for the aliens. So the game doesnt have to be realistic
In the book, for what I have heard, when this event happened, the planet got divided into two. The smaller piece became a moon.
@@Psy_Rothen what sort of calculations they hope to perform if this game doesn't obey the laws of physics
@@kolyashinkarev7366 the game only exist to make them realize the yuan ti are in a 3 body problem, and that they are comming as "refugees"
@@Psy_Ro I get that, I just don't get why they even bother with making this computer if all calculations are worthless
The last clip I saw of this movie... it was "burn her" now " boil them" ??
“How the Hell do we do that? Nothing can survive here!”
“Well we’ll have to rush mining tech. Underground bunkers. After that we need to rush space tech so we can get into orbit. But once we pull that off it’ll be pretty easy, we’ll just have to - “
“O’Neill cylinders! Right! Those are actually pretty easy to make. Hell we could make them on Earth right now with our current level of tech if money wasn’t an issue.”
“Exactly, and money won’t be here since this is existential survival we’re talking about.”
“I was worried we might have to colonize another star system.”
“What? Hell no! I mean maybe eventually, but O’Neill cylinders are easy to build and will help us right now. We could build thousands, each holding millions of people, in relatively short order. By the time we’re able to travel to other star systems it’ll be fore pure exploration, we’ll long since have saved everyone on the planet from the three suns.”
“Yeah. In hindsight resorting to traveling the vast distances between star systems to colonize another world when it would be so much faster and safer and cheaper to just build O’Neill cylinders is the only thing that makes sense.”
“We’d have to be objectively stupid to not think that up first. Like to the point of being a transparent plot contrivance in a book.”
_Meanwhile…_
Sophon listened intently to the conversation.
“Shit, they’re right,” it said, and relayed the information to its Trisolaran masters via quantum entanglement (ignoring that quantum entanglement doesn’t work that way).
_Soon…_
The Trisolarans listened to Sophon. “Well…shit,” one said. “We really are kind of objectively stupid for going all the way to dimensional folding and invading another planet instead of just building O’Neill cylinders.”
“Truth,” admitted another.
“Of course it’s the truth, we’re objectively incapable of lying, dumbass.”
“We don’t even have asses.”
“I for one,” said a third, “am just sad that we won’t be able to finally rescue those poor people on Gilligan’s Isle.”
una vez su sistema solar tuvo 12 planetas... ahora solo queda trisolaris, los otros fueron tragados por los soles
la superficie de su planeta ya es muy inestable, un eclipse triple mas y se partirá por la mitad
@@percivaldarkus3537
I mean I also feel a need to bring up the fact that any species that has the ability to fold a planet-sized computer down to the size of a single proton shouldn't have a problem disassembling a star or two, either, which should also allow them to handily solve their three-body problem *while also* giving them plenty of raw material to build O'Neill cylinders or even entire planets.
_ALSO_ need to bring up that supposedly the Trisolarans are from Alpha Centauri, but the Alpha Centauri system _is not a three-body system_ as it was described in the book. Alpha Centauri A and B exist in a stable two-body orbit with each other, while Proxima Centauri orbits the two at such a huge distance that from Earth it appears to be four entire lunar diameters distant from A and B. Insystem, Proxima is 13,000 AU distant from A and B - 1/5th of a light year, or 430 times the radius of Neptune's orbit. It takes more than half a million years for Proxima to orbit A and B.
If the miniseries changes the Trisolarans to be from some other star system than Centauri then their decision to invade Earth makes even _less_ sense, because it measn that to get from whatever system they're from to Sol would necessarily have required passing by like at least a dozen star systems each with abundant mineral resources for building artificial colonies.
I do not care much for this book, is my point. For all its interesting ideas, it lacks _imagination._
@@RogueShadows ¿y el agua? ¿de donde la van a sacar? necesitan mucho mas que nosotros
@@percivaldarkus3537 Water is cosmically abundant, the only thing that's rare is its liquid form (it's much more commonly ice), but I have to imagine that any species that has invented ships capable of bridging the vast distances between the stars has also invented space heaters.
In just the Sol system, for example, just Saturn's rings alone have ten times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined. Jupiter's moon Europa, despite being only 0.8% the total mass of Earth, has twice the water/ice in its oceans compared to Earth's oceans.
This is leaving aside the likelihood - Hell, the necessity, based on their observed tech in this book and later books, like the Droplet - that the Trisolarans are capable of nuclear fusion on a massive scale. They don't need to find water, they just need to find hydrogen (which comprises 90% of all atoms in the universe) and oxygen (also extremely common in the universe, 1% of all atoms, which might not sound like a lot but, trust me, it is) and start fusing them.
@@RogueShadows My brother in Christ, don't ever let logic and deeper understanding of reality/motivations get in the way of a good story. Of course once a civilization has the ability to travel interstellar distances they are far better off utilizing every atom in their own solar system before considering leaving, that's only good sense and efficient. But then we don't get the story of desperate aliens coming to boop us on the nose.
They should have saved the girl! "If one survives then all survive!"
this scene was pretty much like the book.
Sorry for the 2 dudes that gotten sliced into half @2:16. Lol 😄😅🤦
What is the name of the phenomenon? It sounds like "sysergy" to me. Id like to know what that exactly is.
It’s called a syzygy.
@@quentinlemaitre2998also a convenient way to get rid of excess Y's in Scrabble.
Woww flying horse 😁
"Syzygy" is a fun word.
How the heck did that planet manage to not get torn into a ring of asteroids if shit like this happens to it?
the planet must be made of duranium, or adamantine, or orichalcum, or something like that.
In the actual novel (which imo is way better than the show) the planet does get torn apart and eventually the larger of the 2 pieces turns into a smaller planet, and the other piece becomes like a giant moon.
@@ponguin9574 oh God that sounds amazing and terrifying
@@ponguin9574 That did happen but much later
Wait, if there are three suns on the sky and they are in a planet, isn’t this a four body problem?
It's because the planet has a negligible mass relative to the suns; it isn't relevant to the model.
i think its becuase the planet's existence cant affect any of the three stars in anyway.
Yy-yesss, ahem, ahem, ......we're saving that for the spinoff series.
That just makes it worse. The equation still can't be solved using algebra, and using computers to approximate them becomes woefully inaccurate over relevant timescales.
Since the mass is incredibly smaller compared to the individual star , you can reduce the 4 body problem into a 3 body one
Is this just netflix games of thrones
SHINRA TENSEI !!!!
Epic
I've enjoyed the series so far, but this scene is silly. Even IF the alignment of all three stars succeeded in momentarily disrupting the planet's surface gravity, the entire planet would accelerate towards the aligned stars. The only way you'd have this effect would be if there was a meaningful difference between the gravitational force from the aligned stars acting on the planet's surface and an object on its surface. At the sort of distance you'd need to be at for the planet to remain habitable, I doubt a neutron star would be dense enough to create this effect.
Read the books it has more math and physics.
In the books, a brief trisolar alignment rips a chunk of the planet off, eventually creating a moon. This is a dramatized retelling of that event
Incorrect. Read the books
@@eden20111 Whatever is written in the books, the physics don't make sense. Consider Newton's formula for universal gravitation F=G(m1*m2 / r^2). If we assume that m1 is some object on the surface of the planet, the gravitational force acting upon it is effectively F = G(m2/r^2). Since the planet isn't burning up when the alignment occurs, it's reasonable to assume there is a roughly Earth-like distance between it and the nearest star. In Earth's case, the Earth exerts roughly G(1.47 x 10^17) on an object at its surface. Our sun exerts roughly G(9.2 x 10^13) on that same object at perihelion. In other words, if you placed the mass of 1,000 identical stars inside the space our sun occupies at the point where Earth is closest in its orbit, it still wouldn't overwhelm the object's gravitational attraction toward the Earth, let alone start pulling objects off the Earth. Edit: To anyone who might criticize, I'm omitting units as I'm simply comparing magnitude
In the books the tidal forces ripped a part of the planet and formed a moon,if didn't just magically made the people float
Wouldn't the suns apply the same acceleration to the planet and its inhabitants, i.e. people wouldn't start flying? There is no way the physics check out on this scene...
The computer game is allegorical. A sygzy event will typically raise mammoth tidal waves thousands of kms long , assuming the planet has water and may strip the planet of its atmosphere, at least the lighter gases. You are right, there is no way people can go flying upwards!!
The planet will suddenly stop spinning. Which will send everything flying sideways.
@@travelback5700 What exactly causes the planet to stop spinning?
@@sinancemyucel4644tidal lock
@@sinancemyucel4644 The friction of tidal forces can cause a relatively light body orbiting a heavy one to match its rotation with its orbit. The Earth did this to the moon, which is why we talk about a dark side of the moon - it's the side that never faces the Earth and we always see the same side of it.
But that doesn't happen quickly. There isn't anything that would cause this scene to happen as it did.
I really don't get the point of this game. If the object is to save as much of the alien civilization as possible, then shouldn't it be a "let's build a rocket ship" game?
no, the point is they want to test the player, do they sympathize with npc (civilians) with the game simulation that represent the 3 body problem that san ti has
they want to recruit new followers
just in case if you also miss, this game is created by mike evans and his organization with the help of sophon technology, not by san ti
It’s not a game. It’s a recruitment ad for humans
Kinda is, civilisation has to first survive long enough to get to that level. And when they did, they did do what you said
Tencent’s version much more cool . There are CPU, Monitor, Hard Disk, BUS, etc, using only the emperor’s soldier.
What the fuck?
Was t this show about an alien invasion or something?
The show kind of makes it weird, but the books show an alien invasion based on the non-existence of FTL travel and a thing called Dark Forest Theory
This scene is from aliens created game's arc which is effectively a propaganda tool, explaining why they have to invade Earth and enlisting supporters (traitors) among human population. They just used familiar human historical figures and scenery to make it easier to digest for humans, but it actually shows the perils their own world (completely alien to human's mind) have had to go through till this day.
저 꼬맹이 넣어서 각색하려다가 예원제 캐릭터가 망가짐.
조직이 삼체세계하고 실시간으로 통신한다는걸 예원제가 알고 있었다는 말이 되기 때문임.
😅wow
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 1 UPDATE
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 2 UPDATE
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 3 UPDATE
😊😊😊😊😊
As someone who just read book one this is really disappointing to watch lmao
how so ? In the book it just explain computers better
Because they white washed it
@@JohnDoe-bh2lpas usual they do it to all cultures that are non white
G=mh/mh
Aren't these video games stories? As in LIES? I thought the San Ti didn't know how to lie. Kinda kills the whole plot, doesn't it!?
But it were humans who monitor the game
From what I understand, in the books, it was humans who invented the game.
It basically tells how they lived. It's possible Wenji compelled them to reveal how they survived and included intricate details like the actual characters the Santi themselves. They cannot lie hence I believe it is one of the strategies Wenje sought to destroy them. Know your enemy. The only challenge is that they don't tell us how they look like. Unless in the half Canon spinoff 4th book.
There's a difference between fairy tales that are completely made up vs. what they reconstructed from their own scant pieces of history.
@@KoflerDavid I think it was developed by them, with the help of the Sophons and Wenje. Though basically those NPCs are the actual Santi. For example, in the books lore the Santi have a leader called the Princeps, more like an emperor or King as shown in the Game. I this how Wenje discovered that they know about the dark forest/Fermi paradox theory. Thus use it to her advantage with Saul/Louji. Because those VR glasses can't be built with our technology, even software of the game it self. Moreover, when Wade discovered the harddrive in the Judgement Day boat belonging to Evans. He found more than 300 petabytes of data, most of which was the three body problem.
If they belived in Jesus, they'd be safe.
Nah
Lol
Disappointing Compared To The Chinese Version
Ehh I liked the Netflix show better Tencent dragged on and just explained things over and over again and then flashbacks of the same scenes explaining over and over again with tons of Chinese censorship
The physics part of this show is garbage. Actually, this show is garbage.
The physics actually make sense theoretically. You’re just a moron
what anybody says about any show based on a book from any franchise ever, so original