Considering where the rocks come from in the first place, and then stacking them for miles plus tending the fields of crops . Absolutely back breaking work.
Charile you are so right! ""Building walls is an antique art that has endured for thousands of years. Extant dry-stone walls, built without the use of mortar or any binding agent, can be dated as far back as 3500 BCE. In the UK, the Celts developed boundary walls or field walls as they transitioned from nomadic pastoralism to settled farming."" This is taken from "If walls could talk" 2018 If it took Derbyshire that long to build these walls then who on earth was doing it in North America? And who was doing it before the Romans even came to Britain. So that is nearly five and half thousand years ago that they got started building these walls in the UK. We know that native Americans didn"t do stone wall building on that massive scale .......so who did it?
Interesting video. As I recall, the magnetic declanation around 1815 was 6* in eastern CT. Last I checked, 20 years ago, it was about 14*. You have to keep in mind that 200 years ago, there really weren't good standards for surveyors. Just like the variations in stonewall quality. Anytime I see something that wasn't finished and was from the early 1800s, I wonder if it was a victim of the summer that never was or one of the epidemics from that time. Many of the town clerks just let things slide when a family was wiped out by disease and nothing happened to the land for decades. Around 1985, we discovered a 100+ acre parcel that the owner died in the 1890s. The land was just ignored for about 90 years. Wishing all of you guys a Happy and Healthy New Year. Good Luck, Rick
Marino sheep farmers started building stone walls after 1810 and booming by 1840. Huge rocks moved by teams of of oxen. They are strong critters and you have their shoes.
I hear you Charlie. After 20 years you have experience. Unless some have walked in your shoes and trails, they can only speculate. My first impression, others were there before our early colonists. We have rock formations in Connecticut that no one can explain. They look like Druids, Celtics or even Vikings early natives could have easily built. Thank you for your hiking and observations. ❤️🙏🇺🇸. P.S. some of Connecticut ‘s oldest stones are in Western Connecticut.
A thinking man’s episode of Not Thursday. A “Stealth Diggers” video years ago where you were diagraming some stonewalls was what got this SE New Hampshire boy watching you all, was great seeing and hearing your opinions today regarding your walls.
love the sound of the wind through the trees! and the sun sparkling off the leaves!! it smells delightful! 🎁 lightbulb went off in my head.. there are similar stone walls in Ireland..more food for thought. 21:00ish timestamp -- could the small cellar holes have been bases for lookout towers🤷 or ritual/ceremonial fire pits?
Many commentors speculated below about oxen, and mules/other draft equines, and block and tackle,folcrums and wedges etc. on and on. I don't think the techniques that may have been employed are nearly as important (or mysterious or really in question) as the who and the why (?) to what purpose. Which I think is what you are getting at. Yes all those methods undoubtably could have been employed in the wall building, I don't think any of that is even in question for me, they are kind of a given, as we know other walls were built elsewhere in various eras that way. But the who and why, and by extension the 'when' seems to be the bigger conundrum. No... sheep farmers and row croppers as the builders seem highly unlikely in many instances and areas, as you've pointed out.
It's amazing how they ( human and animals ) cleared moved stacked those heavy rocks to make walls. Astoundingly beautiful. Love the video and the knowledge you have bestowed upon us😊
Noticed that too. Retired now but surveyed for over40 years. I am guessing that those 200 acre parcels were put in with a compass to be that square. Declination may be off but it was repeated over and over again. I live and worked in Arizona most of my life and not sure what your original surveys were based on but was wondering if old survey maps might help in someway. Just throwing out some ideas, probably not relevant but food for thought. Really like the way you drew the map in the dirt to help show what you are dealing with. Wish I had a dollar for every map I drew the same way. Love your channel and your dedication to providing all of us with lots of interesting finds and your love for the history of your area.
the only way they did this was the help of Oxen's. they were strong animals and moved a lot boulders around the property and place them in a direction of where a farm was settled.
You need to read up on the historical facts of England and land grants in New England and how they were “granted”. You first needed a noble that held land in England. Then you pledged servitude in an amount of time. After that you worked the land. When your servitude was up then you could work as a hired hand and buy land from the lord and pay him while working to build on your property.
I enjoyed this video. I have wondered about different styles of stone wall building here in New England. If you can teach us something about that in a future video, I’d appreciate it. There’s a lot of controversy about whether the native population built stone walls. But those who think they did say the walls were ceremonial- not used to create borders. That was my first thought when you encountered a wall that ended. I’ve never noticed a wall where the base stones were buried. But I never looked. Dang if I won’t be checking every last wall now. But WHY would they go to such trouble for a border wall? Tx for interesting vids! I always wish I could tag along! Just like all your viewers.
The Roman army had marching camps in Europe. From Greece to Scotland. With the amount of British troop movements in the north/west New England area from the forts in Canada and into the colonies, the walls could very well be opportunely occupied defensive structures.
I thought the King ordered soldiers to make those 1st walls and square out his territory so income could be calculated. No matter if land was good or bad. You got what you were allotted
Farmers didn’t climb up there to build those walls, there would be a wagon road leading to it not a bushwhacking expedition These rocks have been exposed to the elements for a long time per the pitting and obvious erosion and the lichen and moss growth is older compared to similar structures in other places that have known dates of construction
Thank you Charlie for the adventure and listening to your thoughts about the walls !
Considering where the rocks come from in the first place, and then stacking them for miles plus tending the fields of crops . Absolutely back breaking work.
Charile you are so right!
""Building walls is an antique art that has endured for thousands of years. Extant dry-stone walls, built without the use of mortar or any binding agent, can be dated as far back as 3500 BCE. In the UK, the Celts developed boundary walls or field walls as they transitioned from nomadic pastoralism to settled farming."" This is taken from "If walls could talk" 2018
If it took Derbyshire that long to build these walls then who on earth was doing it in North America? And who was doing it before the Romans even came to Britain.
So that is nearly five and half thousand years ago that they got started building these walls in the UK.
We know that native Americans didn"t do stone wall building on that massive scale .......so who did it?
My thought is we know very little about native culture before we arrived in america. They prob did alot of things we wouldn't expect
Interesting video. As I recall, the magnetic declanation around 1815 was 6* in eastern CT. Last I checked, 20 years ago, it was about 14*. You have to keep in mind that 200 years ago, there really weren't good standards for surveyors. Just like the variations in stonewall quality. Anytime I see something that wasn't finished and was from the early 1800s, I wonder if it was a victim of the summer that never was or one of the epidemics from that time. Many of the town clerks just let things slide when a family was wiped out by disease and nothing happened to the land for decades. Around 1985, we discovered a 100+ acre parcel that the owner died in the 1890s. The land was just ignored for about 90 years. Wishing all of you guys a Happy and Healthy New Year. Good Luck, Rick
Marino sheep farmers started building stone walls after 1810 and booming by 1840. Huge rocks moved by teams of of oxen. They are strong critters and you have their shoes.
Merino wool is very good stuff!! If you live is a colder climate.. I highly recommend investing 👌🏻😁🥶
@@MNpickermerino wool is great but when it comes to good socks I'm a shill for Alpacas. Those things make the wool of wools
.... I always "keep thinking about it"
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I hear you Charlie. After 20 years you have experience. Unless some have walked in your shoes and trails, they can only speculate. My first impression, others were there before our early colonists. We have rock formations in Connecticut that no one can explain. They look like Druids, Celtics or even Vikings early natives could have easily built. Thank you for your hiking and observations. ❤️🙏🇺🇸. P.S. some of Connecticut ‘s oldest stones are in Western Connecticut.
Older than what other stone ?
OK...that explanation of what has been going on, or your questions about what has been going on there, in relation to the walls etc., is fascinating!!
A thinking man’s episode of Not Thursday.
A “Stealth Diggers” video years ago where you were diagraming some stonewalls was what got this SE New Hampshire boy watching you all, was great seeing and hearing your opinions today regarding your walls.
love the sound of the wind through the trees! and the sun sparkling off the leaves!! it smells delightful! 🎁
lightbulb went off in my head.. there are similar stone walls in Ireland..more food for thought.
21:00ish timestamp -- could the small cellar holes have been bases for lookout towers🤷 or ritual/ceremonial fire pits?
And we love every minute of it Charlie.
Thank you for the history lessons and the beautiful scenery.
That is an awesome view!
Do you have a drone? Areal view of the degrees of separation may show a Giant Timepiece.
Many commentors speculated below about oxen, and mules/other draft equines, and block and tackle,folcrums and wedges etc. on and on. I don't think the techniques that may have been employed are nearly as important (or mysterious or really in question) as the who and the why (?) to what purpose. Which I think is what you are getting at. Yes all those methods undoubtably could have been employed in the wall building, I don't think any of that is even in question for me, they are kind of a given, as we know other walls were built elsewhere in various eras that way. But the who and why, and by extension the 'when' seems to be the bigger conundrum. No... sheep farmers and row croppers as the builders seem highly unlikely in many instances and areas, as you've pointed out.
It's amazing how they ( human and animals ) cleared moved stacked those heavy rocks to make walls.
Astoundingly beautiful. Love the video and the knowledge you have bestowed upon us😊
That's not how it went
You might be able to find rock walls with Lidar. Give it a try.
At 11:46 upper left hand corner looks like an old piece of steel pipe.
Noticed that too. Retired now but surveyed for over40 years. I am guessing that those 200 acre parcels were put in with a compass to be that square. Declination may be off but it was repeated over and over again. I live and worked in Arizona most of my life and not sure what your original surveys were based on but was wondering if old survey maps might help in someway. Just throwing out some ideas, probably not relevant but food for thought. Really like the way you drew the map in the dirt to help show what you are dealing with. Wish I had a dollar for every map I drew the same way. Love your channel and your dedication to providing all of us with lots of interesting finds and your love for the history of your area.
What a beautiful & intriguing video! Thanks for posting
Enjoyed 👍
Block &tackle & an ox to pick up those big ones ?
Nice video of wander lust and wonder lust. Thanks again
Great vid!
the only way they did this was the help of Oxen's. they were strong animals and moved a lot boulders around the property and place them in a direction of where a farm was settled.
I believe these areas walls were developed and erected a good hundred years before you think.
They were brick but got cataclysmically damaged
You need to read up on the historical facts of England and land grants in New England and how they were “granted”.
You first needed a noble that held land in England. Then you pledged servitude in an amount of time. After that you worked the land. When your servitude was up then you could work as a hired hand and buy land from the lord and pay him while working to build on your property.
Beautiful
Interesting, Thank you!!
I enjoyed this video. I have wondered about different styles of stone wall building here in New England. If you can teach us something about that in a future video, I’d appreciate it.
There’s a lot of controversy about whether the native population built stone walls. But those who think they did say the walls were ceremonial- not used to create borders. That was my first thought when you encountered a wall that ended.
I’ve never noticed a wall where the base stones were buried. But I never looked. Dang if I won’t be checking every last wall now. But WHY would they go to such trouble for a border wall?
Tx for interesting vids! I always wish I could tag along! Just like all your viewers.
I think there is precedent for homesteaders to have been granted 180 acre plots (200?),
free if they settled and improved the property.
The Roman army had marching camps in Europe. From Greece to Scotland. With the amount of British troop movements in the north/west New England area from the forts in Canada and into the colonies, the walls could very well be opportunely occupied defensive structures.
well since you guys find so many oxen and horse shoes I'm leaning on farmers...but that Roswell crash incident sticks in my head too
High Angel Sat , appeared on a Bucket Loader Tractor .
It was the year , 501 .
Well done. On average, About how many miles mountain hiking do you hike? Mountain hiking is difficult.
I thought the King ordered soldiers to make those 1st walls and square out his territory so income could be calculated. No matter if land was good or bad. You got what you were allotted
Awesome
I would sure like to hear your ideas on what you have found !
Farmers didn’t climb up there to build those walls, there would be a wagon road leading to it not a bushwhacking expedition
These rocks have been exposed to the elements for a long time per the pitting and obvious erosion and the lichen and moss growth is older compared to similar structures in other places that have known dates of construction
OK, you said 2 miles back. That's alot of hiking
First Persons in the Columbia River Gorge, built stone walls.
boom let's go let's go treasure and adventure ✌👵
The giants in the Bible May have built the walls. Or military made a fort to fight the British
The pioneers toiled and had to have a place to throw the rocks
In perfect grid patterns?
The style of building looks different to me. All flat rocks, balanced. The settlers' walls are more like European dry stone walls.
Yes at least a hundred years before 👍👍❤️
I wonder if there were ever stone thieves. 😁 Walls with heavier rocks would stay in place.
It was the Beginning .
Native Americans
Jk maybe the aliens were playing yahtzee.
✌🏻💚🙏🏻
You must be new here. 😂
Maybe Indians built them
Thought you were a metal detecotorist not a land surveyor lol more detecorting and less talk about the land scape