Vocal Coach reacts to The Kinks - Celluloid Heroes,1977

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  • @lawrencesmith6536
    @lawrencesmith6536 Рік тому +102

    Ray Davies is absolutely one of the great songwriter/poets of the 20th century. The deeper you dive into his writings , the more you understand that

    • @peterclarke3201
      @peterclarke3201 Рік тому +3

      Just the best, doesn,t care if he is famous or not, as long as he does what he feels, .The Kinks must have influenced hundreds of musicians since You Really Got Me.

    • @alabhaois
      @alabhaois Рік тому

      Absolutely!!!!! 💕💕💕

    • @rebeccaizzmeeFemm1
      @rebeccaizzmeeFemm1 6 місяців тому

      I love dancing with Ray

    • @pedroV2003
      @pedroV2003 15 днів тому

      Agreed.

  • @overd002
    @overd002 Рік тому +50

    Thank you, Beth. This is one of my favorite Kinks songs. Another one is their 1980's hit "Come Dancing". It has a very sad back story. Most people only know their hit songs, but they have so many amazing songs that never got any radio play.

    • @iznot2
      @iznot2 Рік тому +3

      This has always.been one.of my favorite Kink songs. Ray Davies is a great song writer.

    • @dan112965
      @dan112965 Рік тому +1

      One of my favorite Kinks classics

    • @BC-ui9yt
      @BC-ui9yt Рік тому +5

      I'm with you. These are arguably their two best songs. Love the backstory on "Come Dancing", as sad as it is. My sister passed a few years ago, and left me some money. I blew it all, but I learned a lot of skills from magic to acting with it..... a gift from a much loved family member who was gone far too soon.

    • @lannydante9390
      @lannydante9390 Рік тому +1

      The kinks have 700 songs in their catalog- 100’s just as good as their hits.

  • @toddism
    @toddism Рік тому +3

    First time I saw them live was 1981. I had never heard this song. I walked out of the venue singing it

  • @tomratcliff3755
    @tomratcliff3755 Рік тому +7

    One of my favorite songs by one of my favorite bands! Absolute heartbreaker.

  • @davescurry69
    @davescurry69 Рік тому +13

    Beth, thank you so much for reacting to The Kinks. Surely rock music's most underrated band and Ray Davies is a songwriter of the very highest quality. Almost without peer. The original studio version of "Celluloid Heroes" actually goes back as far as 1972. On the same album is another mini masterpiece called "Sitting In My Hotel".

  • @Mickey26tee
    @Mickey26tee Рік тому +25

    I love the Kinks, Ray Davies is such a great storyteller and always creates great characters. His lyrics are fantastic!

    • @alabhaois
      @alabhaois Рік тому +1

      My absolute favorite group!!! 💕😎

  • @rubbabubba6489
    @rubbabubba6489 Рік тому +36

    This is an absolute masterpiece. I really like "Sunny Afternoon" also. Actually, most kinks songs hit the spot.

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 Рік тому +18

    A song that makes you think, that's Ray and the Kinks. They have great rock songs, and good ballads, and slow songs. Such a varied songbook.

  • @oskisnutz
    @oskisnutz Рік тому +17

    One of the most beautiful songs ever written ❤

  • @lannydante9390
    @lannydante9390 Рік тому +3

    One for the Road cut of this song is unbelievable- GSTK- 700 songs they have written- 100’s just as good their hits ….around the dial…..I need you ….2 sisters…..artificial man…..holiday Romance….dreams…..to the bone ….big sky …..0nly a dream ….the list goes on and on!!!!

  • @bobcharles1204
    @bobcharles1204 Рік тому +14

    This has always been my favorite Kinks song!

  • @primalengland
    @primalengland Рік тому +4

    Isn’t it beautiful that ‘Whistle Test’ embraced our greatest artists. I loved Whistle Test, and in the 60’s I loved the genius of Ray Davies.

  • @remmymafia3889
    @remmymafia3889 Рік тому +6

    Your reaction to this beautiful piece by Ray Davies, is one of my favorite reactions. No one could respond any more sincerely for this one than you.

  • @bruce5402
    @bruce5402 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful commentary Beth! Love voice and demenor. Sooths my anexity. Love ya!!

  • @DamagedButManaging
    @DamagedButManaging Рік тому +5

    This is one of my faves from them. Loved the Kinks since my first listen to Lola when I was about 12. So much great music

  • @richardalger5991
    @richardalger5991 Рік тому +1

    Quite simply one of the most beautiful songs ever written. As with all Rays work its long on intelligence and rich in wonderful melody. Nice that you comment on his vocal delivery as its something I feel is overlooked often - always feel his diction is a great strength. To me personally he is pretty peerless as a writer. Thanks for posting.

    • @BethRoars
      @BethRoars  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching Richard!

  • @luisalonsoecheverria
    @luisalonsoecheverria Рік тому +34

    "Waterloo Sunset" is Ray's best song, but "Celluloid Heroes" is Ray's masterpiece!!

  • @thunderstruck13
    @thunderstruck13 Рік тому +5

    1st concert I ever saw....love the kinks and this song is great

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault Рік тому +2

    There's so many (very) different live versions of this. This one is fairly close to the studio version from 1972, but the fact they took it in so many different directions when doing it live is just another dimension to love about this song.

  • @alextinsley9117
    @alextinsley9117 Рік тому +10

    What was really impressive was the bass line. An incredible player.

  • @lancerx1759
    @lancerx1759 Рік тому +4

    Greta Garbo whose movie Ninotchka a great movie btw was banned in Soviet Union and the Kinks who were later banned in USA just shows the power that film and phonograph possess

  • @Doppeljot
    @Doppeljot Рік тому +22

    Ray Davies has always been my number one choice for greatest UK songwriter, ahead of Lennon, McCartney or whoever else the runners up might be.

    • @wayneelliott7011
      @wayneelliott7011 Рік тому +5

      Correct. Ray Davies is the Greatest Songwriter from the UK. Lennon- McCartney don't come close.

    • @lannydante9390
      @lannydante9390 Рік тому +5

      I agree 100%

    • @kurthauser343
      @kurthauser343 7 місяців тому +1

      The Kinks were the better Beatles...

  • @yehudasimon6957
    @yehudasimon6957 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for doing this, Beth. One of the best Kinks songs. Ray Davies was one of the great songwriters of the 20th century, and unfortunately not well enough known by the younger generation.

  • @zzuave2666
    @zzuave2666 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful, great to see it's on the old grey whistle test, so much great music was captured by that show.

  • @matthewschenker3170
    @matthewschenker3170 Рік тому +4

    Terrific exploration of this song! I was 10 years old when this song came out, and I remember having an emotional response to it, even though I did not understand it then.
    Beth: I really like the particular way you look at music. You reveal reveal technical aspects of songs that I have long been familiar with but had not noticed what you're pointing out. At the same time, you so naturally explore the emotional pathways into the lyrics and music.

  • @chaipup7045
    @chaipup7045 Рік тому +3

    The chord progression on this is simple, but beautiful.

  • @otakubancho6655
    @otakubancho6655 Рік тому +4

    This is my new favorite version,I've grown up listening to the album version all these years.💘💘💘

  • @barbaragottlock230
    @barbaragottlock230 Рік тому +12

    Songwriting genius. From garage rockers to theatrics to sentimentality to arena rockers, the Kinks covered all the bases in their career. Thanks.

  • @BC-ui9yt
    @BC-ui9yt Рік тому +4

    I've loved this song from the first time I heard it, on their great live album. But this is the best version I've ever heard- the one I go to when I want to hear it. The video is so interesting. The background singers are exactly what I think of when I think of the 70s lol. But the song.... brilliant imagery, and there are so many levels to the story. Ray Davies is an underrated songwriter.

  • @michaelm6948
    @michaelm6948 Рік тому +6

    This is such a great song. If you think of fame, image, success and how not only the stars,but the followers of the stars, can get lost in those illusions. Ray Davies has many songs that deal with illusion and how people can lose themselves not facing reality. Ray suffered great melancholy, he writes about yearning for an ideal time in the past that could never be relived. His songs show great personal suffering.

  • @CHRnorton
    @CHRnorton Рік тому +4

    The Kinks, "The Road" sums up the life of a rock n roll band. A Great song for sure!

  • @joshuasimons4036
    @joshuasimons4036 27 днів тому

    The best of the best. So many great songs, brilliant storytelling, hidden between major rock cords and percussion.
    Celluloid Hero’s a brilliant gem.

  • @marcom.juarez1745
    @marcom.juarez1745 Рік тому +1

    I love this song, Celluloid heroes. It was Ray Davies greatest, brilliant song. He is a great genius songwriter and poet. When you hear his voice it's so mesmerizing and you know it's Ray Davies and the Kinks. I grew up with their musical genius and the music helped me survive my early teen years. Long love the Kinks.

  • @Dan-dg9pi
    @Dan-dg9pi 4 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant song. Beautiful performance. Sensitive analysis. Insightful analyst.

  • @ewrekzz7360
    @ewrekzz7360 Рік тому +4

    I forgot how much I love this song..

  • @LordEriolTolkien
    @LordEriolTolkien Рік тому +2

    I hadn't been a Kinks fan, but am becoming one. Many of his lyrics are simple and yet highly evocative.

  • @craigplatel813
    @craigplatel813 Рік тому +4

    It's actually older than 77. It was on their Everybody's in showbiz album from 72. The version there rocks a bit more.

  • @aussiemal8701
    @aussiemal8701 Рік тому +2

    Happiness is an emotion and like any emotion it is fleeting. Contentment is a state of mind and gives more stability to handle emotions. I find strength in being content and wish that I had realised this in my earlier years rather than my late 50's.

  • @edouardros9799
    @edouardros9799 Рік тому +4

    Fabuleux Kinks .
    Des mélodies qui traversent le temps et les générations.
    Des étoiles filantes pour l'éternité.
    💫💫💫💫

  • @chrisclarke3443
    @chrisclarke3443 Рік тому

    This was from “The old Grey Whistle Test “ tapes - an absolute goldmine of stuff. Check out Billy Joel and Piano Man

  • @alabhaois
    @alabhaois 5 днів тому

    Such a classic!! Their songs never get old.

  • @keithmills778
    @keithmills778 Рік тому +2

    I recently saw a performer introduce a song by saying, " The answer to the question, "Who's the better band--The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?" is The Kinks."

  • @BethRoars
    @BethRoars  Рік тому +7

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  • @carolmartin4413
    @carolmartin4413 Рік тому +2

    Such a great band from the 60's-70's era. Many mentioned favorites worth listening to in comments. Mine...'A Well-respected Man.' Kinks sarcasm and commentary at its best.

  • @AnyangU
    @AnyangU Рік тому +2

    Anyone who can appreciate Celluloid Heroes is alright in my book. The Kinks are the kings of underrated and this might be their most under-rated song of all!

  • @brookstruitt6293
    @brookstruitt6293 Рік тому +5

    I loved this, especially the OGWT performance you chose. It really captures the reverence that Ray is trying to evoke for the toll that a life of fame and being in the public eye takes on the soul of those who "succeed" (for as you point out, success is a relative measurement and necessarily implies within it a certain level of failure in other parts of a performer's life). I don't think that the impact that the band's success had on his relationship with his brother should be overlooked as inspiration for the song as well. Given their mercurial and combative personalities, they probably would have been at odds with each other regardless what career paths they chose. But I am sure that Ray could not help but reflect about whether what it took to be rock superstars conversely contributed to his alienation with Dave.
    I would also love to hear your take on "Waterloo Sunset" and Don Maclean's "Vincent" (another name-dropper and examination of the soul-crushing pressures of the world - obviously due to other causes than "Celluloid Heroes," Vincent's mental illness and sensitive nature rather than celebrity)

  • @edcase1977
    @edcase1977 Рік тому +5

    One of my fave Kinks tracks. Sentiment reminds me of the John Waters quote: "Most everybody secretly imagines themselves in show business and everyday on their way to work, they're a little bit depressed because they're not...People are sad they're not famous in America".

    • @bonniebickett4520
      @bonniebickett4520 Рік тому +1

      Bit I am famous at my job! I work the meat counter in a grocery store in America. I am proud my customers love me!

  • @jeffmartin1026
    @jeffmartin1026 Рік тому +4

    I love how someone from England can so succinctly grasp the American Dream. "Celluloid heros never feel any pain, and celluloid heros never really die".

  • @LordEagle
    @LordEagle Рік тому

    Fantastic song and reaction,,,,💥💥💥👍😎

  • @firedoc5
    @firedoc5 Рік тому +3

    Such of a beautiful song. Usually when you think of the Kinks the first song that comes to mind is "Lola".

  • @rexhoss52
    @rexhoss52 Рік тому +1

    cheers to you beth roars - you've achieved wisdom...

  • @willblood7082
    @willblood7082 Рік тому +23

    One of my favorite Kinks songs. I’m not sure why this live version omitted the following verse but, it’s probably my favorite verse of the song…
    If you covered him with garbage
    George Sanders would still have style
    And if you stamped on Mickey Rooney
    He would still turn round and smile
    But please don't tread on dearest Marilyn
    Cause she's not very tough
    She should have been made of iron or steel
    But she was only made of flesh and blood

    • @luisalonsoecheverria
      @luisalonsoecheverria Рік тому

      They probably had to edit the song length for TV.

    • @501625abc
      @501625abc Рік тому +2

      From my recollection of all the live Kinks shows I attended, Ray never sang that verse live.

    • @jimwilson5148
      @jimwilson5148 Рік тому

      A favorite verse of mine. It's why I always preferred the studio version

    • @robertjordan7348
      @robertjordan7348 3 місяці тому

      @@501625abc Same, I saw this one performed live about 8 times and that verse was never included. I always wondered why, as it is a great one.

  • @williamdwilson9192
    @williamdwilson9192 Рік тому +6

    I'd listen to a Ray Davies "failure" rather than to most people's "successes"; he is soul full. I have learned a lot of humanness from Ray, throughout the years and years. Thanks to you Beth, for your music appreciation lessons. I have learned some things. But I do have a question: Would you give an example and discuss something that you don't like to establish a context for what you do. Thanks again. And, just saying, I have enjoyed your singing too!

  • @mkissin493
    @mkissin493 Рік тому +2

    So insightful. Thanks Beth.

  • @JH-rk9gd
    @JH-rk9gd Рік тому

    This song really gets me going

  • @han36solo
    @han36solo Рік тому +3

    Wonderful reaction Beth! You rock!

  • @viewfromthehighchair9391
    @viewfromthehighchair9391 Рік тому +2

    ''Celluloid Heroes" has meaning for me because it was the name of my ball hockey team in university. Not sure if our Captain knew of this song or if it had anything to do with our name; however, our team name was my favourite team moniker of all-time. LOL

  • @pedroV2003
    @pedroV2003 15 днів тому

    I've always loved this song. And Ray if you ever read this I did buy the album and spent quite a lot of time with it back in the 70's. I've seen my share of iconic bands back in the 60-70's but I am hard pressed to remember any concert more fun to attend than the Kinks circa 1972. Ray is a born performer and a poet.

  • @ChasBeauregarde
    @ChasBeauregarde Рік тому +1

    The Joanie Mitchell connection - Wow! I never picked up on that and I know this song since 1973. Great observation!

  • @jonathansmith3742
    @jonathansmith3742 10 місяців тому

    I love this song. Can listen to it over and over. I am happy going for a hike with my saxophone and seeing how people react to a sax in the woods. Dogs are a little confused.

  • @jay-remedy-plz
    @jay-remedy-plz Рік тому +1

    Perhaps my favorite Kinks song. Thank you.

  • @levvellene570
    @levvellene570 Рік тому +2

    And, yet, that was a Kinks live track from their mid-70's live-show! I really thought they were done around that time, but have a listen to anything from their State of Confusion album after that! Heh, talk about renewing themselves for a new audience...

  • @J.OKRoadrunner
    @J.OKRoadrunner Рік тому +4

    I adore Ray and the Kinks and this number.

  • @SuperGuitarDude7
    @SuperGuitarDude7 Рік тому +2

    I don't know how successful this song was on the charts, but when I was a kid in the 70s in New York State, they would play this every once in a while on the rock radio station. Considered sort of a masterpiece back then. Probably a lot of younger people aren't as familiar with this as songs by other groups from that period, but is such a great and unique song. The Kinks were a group that had a number of songs I didn't really like, but they also had a lot of songs I loved. They basically created the distortion sound by cutting a speaker cone with a razor on You Really Got Me. Plus, that and All Day And All Of The Night were really the first hard rock songs. I had their album Misfits and Low Budget and thought both albums were great (every song). I had their live album One For The Road, which is really a best of album done live. I recommend getting that album if you want to really know what the Kinks are all about. This was after Van Halen covered You Really Got Me and they did a more hard rocking version of it which was great (of course Dave Davies ain't Eddie Van Halen, but he didn't need to be. Great guitarist all on his own).

  • @keefmack
    @keefmack Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite songs

  • @moi-ev3pi
    @moi-ev3pi Рік тому +1

    This sounds so beautiful

  • @57too
    @57too Місяць тому

    Your assessments are always correct. Cheers!

  • @BritIronRebel
    @BritIronRebel Рік тому +1

    Sir Ray Davies is a national treasure. It was said that the Rolling Stones were pornographic whilst the Kinks were geographic.

    • @peterjonas4971
      @peterjonas4971 7 місяців тому

      NO!!! Ray, too, fell for that aristo- bullsh*t??? That's so depressing. I thought he would take the John Lennon, Keith Richards, David Bowie route.

  • @thoranderson9958
    @thoranderson9958 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting. I'm a musician and I credit Ray for teaching me to sing. (Won't mention it to Dave) your interpretation told me much I knew, and a fair amount I hadn't thought of. Well done. Catch you next time.

  • @ronparsons8786
    @ronparsons8786 Рік тому +1

    Always loved this song

  • @otakubancho6655
    @otakubancho6655 Рік тому +1

    I think the ideal we should all strive for is contentment,that we have what we need and no more.

  • @markmalanaphy3374
    @markmalanaphy3374 6 місяців тому

    I still get goosebumps hearing this song 🎵

  • @lancerx1759
    @lancerx1759 Рік тому +2

    The Kinks "One for the road" is one of the greatest live albums ever recorded imo

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 Рік тому +3

    There's another great version of this song is on One for the Road live Album. Has a bit of heavier guitar but the song is still outstanding.

  • @basildavidson4597
    @basildavidson4597 Рік тому +2

    Great reaction to an insightful song.

  • @josequintana9617
    @josequintana9617 Рік тому +2

    Great message. Love your focus on the content.

  • @davidkettell5726
    @davidkettell5726 5 місяців тому

    I can tell you Beth as a 71 year old that happiness is family ,children and grand children that love you . Anything else is not worth a penny and it is the only thing you can take with you and say "i did this "

  • @MrNegative57
    @MrNegative57 Рік тому +11

    Should have done the live version from "One More For the Road" . Was awesome in concert. Twice

    • @andyhayman3077
      @andyhayman3077 Рік тому +3

      Agree, the opening guitar solo is killer.

    • @ddbedguy
      @ddbedguy Рік тому +2

      Agree. One For The Road is one of the greatest live records ever recorded. Every cut is fantastic

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 10 місяців тому

      Saw them in 1980 ! Pure genius, and of course I bought the album, One for the road a year later ❤❤❤

    • @MrNegative57
      @MrNegative57 10 місяців тому

      Best live album. 1980 tour same I saw them first time. Celluloid Heroes perfect performance

  • @randy8297
    @randy8297 Рік тому +2

    You would enjoy the song "Days" another Kinks masterpiece.

  • @JohnDoe-ff2fc
    @JohnDoe-ff2fc Рік тому +1

    You're dressed appropriately
    I haven't heard this song for eons. I don't think that the Kinks got the airplay that they deserved.

  • @paulmorris8762
    @paulmorris8762 Рік тому +1

    the album version and video are great

  • @jeff-buri-jeff3716
    @jeff-buri-jeff3716 Рік тому +2

    I love this song

  • @fellowtraveler4358
    @fellowtraveler4358 9 місяців тому

    John Gosling, RIP 10/05/'023. Listen to that tasteful piano setting the mood for Ray's vocals.

  • @hollyhoman1625
    @hollyhoman1625 3 місяці тому

    CH has long been my favorite Kinks song. The Kinks are the best band ever ever

  • @timarmstrong3251
    @timarmstrong3251 Рік тому +2

    John Dalton, John Gosling and Mick Avory are superb on this.

  • @oscararzate7956
    @oscararzate7956 Рік тому +1

    Una canción un tanto relajante 🆗 bien 👏👏🍀🍀

  • @jean-francoisdicharry1798
    @jean-francoisdicharry1798 3 місяці тому

    Je ne sais pas ce qu'elle raconte mais on voit qu'elle se regale et ça fait plaisir,c'est vrai que cette chanson est superbe et poignante même si je ne comprend pas les paroles mais j'ai toujours senti le courant passer avec les Kinks.Que Dieu sauve le peuple anglais.!

  • @tylertkelley6779
    @tylertkelley6779 8 місяців тому

    Your really good at expressing what a song makes you feel and the thoughts it promulgates. It started w/ Shania Twain, a Canadian in whom the industry backed and foisted the idea of what Country music should be, too a country raised on Don Williams and Marty Robbins or Bakersfield Slim. Simultaneously, the OJ Simpson trial ushered in reality TV; next Paris Hilton, famous for being 'famous', and contemporary Pop-Culture was hatched. Vacuous, vapid and banal modern music: conversely, the song a ballad, a ballad the story, and the sharing of stories makes us happy!

  • @SammySansone-er6cx
    @SammySansone-er6cx Рік тому

    Awesome! Shouting Out GR8 Job To That Grand Ginger Beth!

  • @andrewgrant6516
    @andrewgrant6516 7 місяців тому

    The best name dropping song is The Beverly Hills Telephone Directory Cha Cha Cha. Literally somebody singing the phone book. Genius.

  • @arye52
    @arye52 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful

  • @mwinstanley7
    @mwinstanley7 5 місяців тому

    Ray, in modern terminology, is the G.O.A.T.
    A lyrical insight that had the rare ability to observe with humour and compassion, seriousness and subtlety.
    How groundbreaking the Kinks really were seems lost in the modern world, but they are among the greatest bands of all time and their albums seem to be forgotten, and yet are some of the best albums ever made.
    If you aren't familiar I think - Something Else by The Kinks - The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society - Arthur (or the decline and fall of The British Empire) - Lola Vs Powerman and The Moneygoround - Muswell Hillbillies - Preservation act 1 and 2 - Sleepwalker - Low Budget - One For The Road are among the great albums of all time

  • @rebeccaizzmeeFemm1
    @rebeccaizzmeeFemm1 6 місяців тому

    Absolutely the best song of All time

  • @timothyfoley3000
    @timothyfoley3000 Рік тому +3

    This and Waterloo Sunset...

  • @ryancotoia3460
    @ryancotoia3460 Місяць тому

    Epic humbling song. Lessons from popular culture really The original is best, this is a crimped version. Knowing the characters in its story brings the composition far more alive.
    Hats off to the The Kinks, the best of the Invasion.

  • @DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek

    The Kinks did so many folky 'singer songwriter' style songs. Please check out Strangers and this time tomorrow.

  • @keithhealing1115
    @keithhealing1115 Рік тому

    Contentment makes us happy. Wanting what you have, not having what you want.

  • @robt7199
    @robt7199 Рік тому +1

    Need to give a listen to the Kink's (Ray's) Waterloo Sunset

  • @IDLERACER
    @IDLERACER Рік тому +2

    🙂👍 The melody is extremely similar to "Puff The Magic Dragon." I live in Los Angeles, and whenever The Kinks performed here from 1972 onward, they always made it a point to include this song in their set for obvious reasons.

  • @markmalanaphy3374
    @markmalanaphy3374 6 місяців тому

    Rest in peace John ❤