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The Fourth Cup - Dr. Scott Hahn
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2015
- Well-known Catholic theologian Dr. Scott Hahn explains Christ's Paschal Sacrifice on the cross as the fulfillment of the traditional fourth cup used in the celebration of the Jewish Passover meal. He draws a symbolic parallel to the Last Supper and Christ's death on Calvary. Through his scholarly insights and important biblical connections, Mass will come alive for you as never before!
This sermon flipped my switch on to pursue the Eucharist. Celebrating my first anniversary this Easter!🙋🏼♀️🕯✝️🍷🫓
How awesome!!! ❤
I fell away from the church in my late teens. I've been secretly studying the Catholic church trying to prove my points to my Catholic brothers and sisters (I have 8 siblings and only 3 remain in the Catholic faith) for a while now. I didn't tell my siblings I was studying the faith; this was something I needed to do on my own. Long story short the Lord YESHUA introduced me to Scott Hahn and Fr. Mitch Pacwa's teaching. Thank you Jesus and thank you Dr. Hahn and Fr. Pacwa for leading me get back to the church. Needless to say my 3 siblings are very excited (I think I now have close to 10 rosaries- Lol) and now on to the others. :) I am certain in heaven my parents will present their 9 children to the Lord as full Catholics in the faith. Please keep me in your prayers that I may show the truth of the Catholic faith to my family in love and patients as the Lord did me. God bless you Dr. Hahn and Fr. Pacwa. Thanks again!
Joan Laws Praying for you, sister, and thank you for your beautiful testimony :)
+Joan Laws
Hi Joan, I share the same feeling of confidence with you. I completely have faith that at the end of our lives, my parents will be able to present their 15 children with all their own families each. For now, like you, I am studying theology, to be able to answer my siblings questions,when they are ready to learn the truth about the Catholic Faith.
God bless you and all your family.
+Joan Laws If you need help I would be happy to help. Catholicism is easy to defend.
+Anna Pennrose Thank you so much Anna. I will keep you in my thoughts and reach out to you when in need. God bless you! Joan
Catholicism is roman paganism. It is not Christianity but the whore of babylon
My mind just got blown. Recently came back and never knew much about our faith to begin with. Applying yourself just a little bit and you'll realize just how amazing it is and how intricate and wonderful God's plan is. Thank you, Dr. Hahn. That was very enlightening and it gives even more perspective on why the Eucharistic is so important.
I was born a catholic, but as a lot of Catholics I moved away from the church, one day (I believe because Jesus wanted my to) I heard Dr. Hahn and I could write a lot about how and when but suffice it to say I came back to my church solely because of Dr. Hahn.
Welcome home!!!
Dios te bendiga!
God bless you!!!
Welcome Home.
He is blessed to be the fallen Catholics’ Soul Catcher. May God continue to bless the work of your heart Dr. Scott Hahn🙏🏾
I am not a Catholic, but I saw similar things in the Scriptures, but haven't heard this about the 4th Cup.
Your insight in the 4th Cup is 'divine' :)
May God bless your teaching!
May God lead you to his Church the Catholic Church
Roelie . There is no 4th Cup in the New Covenant . Dr Hahn like all Catholic
need to use the Old Testament to back up the false teachings of the Catholic
Church , They do this with Mary ,The New Covenant Consist Of Christ being the Mediator of the New Covenant , Christ who is the last High Priest sacrificed
Him self as the Lamb with out Blemish . He shed his blood for the sins of the world
one time . there Can be no more sacrifices , Hebrews 10 : 12 - 18 ; the mass and eucharist sacrifice Christ over and over again which is unscriptural and part of the Catholic dogmas . and The Communion which we take the bread and wine is symbolic remembering his Death . there is no forgiveness of sin or or salvation in the rituals , Read and study the word of God
@@consuelomarianamendieta1133 I have news for you, the apostate Catholic Church is not the true Church which is the Body of Christ . Get saved and read and study the scriptures and you will know the truth
@@donaldcooley897 If you are sooooo sure
how come you are in this beautiful
Catholic teaching? ; -)
Maybe you are NOT sure
about your religion!
@@Lezith456 I am sure about my salvation
and being a member of the Church the body of Christ the true Church a spiritual Church The reason I am commenting
on here is to tell people the biblical truth
there is nothing beautiful about Catholic teaching most of it is unscriptural and
fabricated . Catholics need to get saved and read he inspired word of God instead of the false unbiblical teaching of the Catholic Church by the way I am in the visible earthly Baptist Church where saved believers worship God in spirit and truth .
It's very nice to see someone so enthusiastic about new knowledge. God has blessed Scott Hahn!
Thankyou Dr Scott Hahn , another fantastic presentation . I am so glad to be Catholic .
I am listening to Dr. Hahn for the first time and am learning so very very much. God bless you and everyone involved in your mission, Dr. Hahn.
I'm in absolute awe. This man is goes deep!
Our Church is getting ready to go through this excellent book as a study. Viva Cristo Rey 😎
We just completed this one. It includes the Fourth Cup. Excellent series ready made for bible studies stpaulcenter.com/promise-and-fulfillment/the-eucharist-in-scripture/
wow the fourth cup was beautiful loved it
Thanks Scott.... Lovely explanation.... There is nothing more beautiful than to meditate Jesus' passion and death. This audio also explains to us the GREAT wonderful gift of the Holy Eucharist...
This is long, but such a great teaching about Passover.
Thank you Dr. Hahn. Jesus loves us so much He gave Himself body and blood for His bride the Catholic Church and for the faithful Catholic Christians in the Eucharist. I’m in awe that Jesus loved me so much I abide in Him and He in me. Thank you Jesus!
Dr Scott Hahn, you are truly sent by God to reinforce all those things that were taught in the beginning. I had a wonderful teacher, Sr. Mary Raphael, a Dominican nun, who was focused on the Catechism. We had tests every morning and if you got any of it wrong, you had to come in during recess to write out the correct answers and that would also continue during lunch. It is from her that I remember the teachings. Most of which you have repeated. With your explanation of the continuing sacrifice, we were taught that when Jesus said, 'do this in memory of Me', meant that at Mass we repeat or remember the changing of bread and wine into His Body and Blood in memory of His death on the Cross.
But you do it to a higher degree by demonstrating how the old and the new testaments are connected and are included in the Mass throughout. That is a further realisation, but we were told that Mass is Calvary repeated.
Also, when I was at school, we did not have wine. She said where there is no wine available, the Sacrament of the Eucharist is satisfied by the taking of the Body, i.e., the host, however, where wine is available, you must take it to satisfy the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Recently my grand-children were making their First Holy Communion, in which they only had the host and I heard one of the teachers say it would be too difficult to include wine.
Patricia, actually the Church teaches very specifically that for the laity, Communion under the species of bread only is a full Communion---the Host is not Jesus' Body but His LIVING Body, and a living body contains blood, so receiving just the Host is both eating Jesus' Body and drinking His Blood. One of the Councils defined this as dogma---not sure which.
The priest at Mass is required to receive under both species.
This is very touching thanks Dr Scott Hahn.
Each species, under the appearance of either wine or bread, is substantially the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, so receiving under either is sufficient for the communicant. Perhaps your confusion is over the necessity that at Mass, the priest must consecrate both bread and wine, and the priest (and only the priest) must consume under both species. Members of the congregation receive fully the entire Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity no matter whether they receive either one or both.
Everyone should listen to this, Dr Hahn lays out the truth and it's undeniable!! Praise be to God!!!
Excellent. As a 56 year old cradle catholic I have struggled for years until now to understand the correlation of the Eucharist, the crucifixion and the resurrection. I am working my way through the bible to help me understand my faith and am looking forward to picking up on the references made in this video. Thank you and keep up the good work. David
That’s so exciting! Keep it up. God bless you.
Im studying all religions.. I saw that the Catholic church is the only true and holy church.
Hey! Can you tell me more? I’d like to write to you or get in touch via social media or email please? :)
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I don`t know what books you are studying from , but there is only one that will give you the Truth . The inspired word of God . There is no place in the scriptures where you find that the apostate Catholic Church is the true Church
Catholic use Matt. 16 : 18 and to say that Christ Built his Church on Peter is
Blasphemous . Christ Call Peter a stone or small rock Petros in Greek and it is unstable never could Christ build his Church on an unstable foundation Christ new his Heart he rebuked him many timed and Paul did too . and Christ says and on this Rock meaning Petra a giant rock I will build my Church , Christ is Called the rock all through the Bible His body is the Church
and it is made up of saved believers Acts 2 : 47 ; He is still building it today as
sinners get saved they are Baptized by the one Spirit into the one body of Christ the Church and he is the Head of the Church Eph.1 : 22 - 23 There is no earthly visible Church that is Holy , that include the apostate Catholic Church which is full of sin . You keep believing the catholic Church is the true Church and the way of salvation and you will open your eyes in hell when you die . You need to get saved and read and study the word of God The KJV and become
a member of the True Truth Church made with out hands It is a spiritual assembly with spiritually save sinners .
Mar Eduave wow
This is excellent.
Outstanding talk Dr. Hahn. Thank you so very much. May Our Lord bless you and your family.
And, thank you Nicholas Lorenzo for posting this fine talk.
Excellent Catholic truth. Thanks Dr. Hahn!
how the heck did you change? what triggered such poison in the present from you as opposed to 2015 ?
Why "Tim Spangler", are you in danger of becoming a Catholic revert?
Wow Tim when did you have a change of heart. Welcome home
2 weeks ago did you go back to your old self when you asked why the disciples did not nibble at their Masters' ears & nose at the Last Supper. I'm confused......
Denise Braganza kom
Tim Spangler
Are you pulling our legs?
I sincerely hope not 😂
O Sacrament most holy
O Sacrament divine
All praise and all thanksgiving
Be every moment Thine.
Great exegesis!
God bless you Scott!
Amazing explanation! Scott Hahn thank you for making this available on UA-cam. I taught apologists several year ago to Catholics at St. Jude Thaddeus Catholic Church using your materials and many other sources. My purpose was not to convert protestants (in my option; that is a fruitless effort) but demonstrate to Catholics their most precious diamond of their faith. More then once when I presented these proofs, the Holy Spirit would do it in a way that amazed even myself during my own presentation. Often I would have learned more then what I came in to teach!!! Again thank you. Because of you, I'm thinking I of offering apologists classes to my parish again.
Man....my goal is to become learned enough to teach apologetics at my parish
Wonderful scriptural teaching about the the body of Christ in the Eucharist. Listened to the CD. Will listen again. Thanks for posting.
It is finished!! WOW, Dr. Scott Hahn, you were placed here for such a time as this! A time where so many of our Catholics/Christians need to partake deeply in the Supper of the Lamb the new and everlasting covenant. You have given me a deeper love for Eucharistic Jesus truly present body, blood, soul and divinity. We share in the spiritual supper. We need the Old and New Testament to really put it all together. Scripture fulfilled in a way never imagined by sooooo many! I pray all who listen in will be touched and transformed.
4th day of Divine Mercy Novena!
"Today bring to Me THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD AND THOSE WHO DO NOT YET KNOW ME. I was thinking also of them during My bitter Passion, and their future zeal comforted My Heart. Immerse them in the ocean of My mercy."
😇St. Faustina of Kowalska please 🙏🏻4us
Sophia Nguyen amen x
Yes I'm now learning about divine mercy Sunday and sister faustina and what Jesus revealed to her I'm so in love with Jesus and what he has done and what he still is doing I've been meditating on Jesus passion for 10 years now and I still am humbled by what God did for me and us
Thank you Jesus for this great teaching...
Thank you
Thank you so much Dr. Hahn for this beautiful, awe inspiring presentation. God bless you and your work.
Amazing and life changing
It's pretty intense listening to the entire audiobook as well.
Very informative and in depth study of the institution of the Holy Eucharist. So the Holy Eucharist is the sacrament of the sacraments. A priceless
grace from our Heavenly Father to humanity.
DR SCOTT HAHN, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT TEACHING. GOD BLESS.
I have heard this several times, but getting my Masters in Theology and it keeps getting more brilliant
Thanks. I am grateful.
Jesus, I believe in your Holy Presence in the Eucharist.
There are over a HUNDRED MIRACLES OF THE EUCHARIST ON THE INTERNET.
In Lanciano Italy, in a small church around the corner from a council sign "Miracolo Eucharistico", there inside a gall tabernacle is a miracle of the Eucharist. It is clearly cardiac muscle, and globules of blood, which has lasted for decades.
Many of these miracles are still there when ordinary wafers would simply deteriorate in a few years, becoming powdery, these consecrated hosts are literally centuries old. One special fact is the blood group AB which is common to these miracles; common enough in
Palestine, is relatively rare in the places where many of these miracles are found, and indeed in Buenos Aires where a miracle of the Eucharist was found, leading the former Jorge Bergoglio to seek scientific proof of this miracle, which identified through the cells that the person whose blood it was, in fact, had been suffering violence.
Hey, just ignore this! These are some timestamps for an essay I'm writing. By the way, this video was very, very helpful. Thank you so much!
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madknee it’s me grace!!
@@grass201 :33 heyaa!
I LIKE FOOD
I hope what you wrote is good
@@lonelyberg1808 lol ya it was! i think i got an A or smth
Hallelujah! To Jesus The Eucharist 🙌🏼
This is the most awesome explanation. I can just see my
Protestant friends trying to poke holes in this explanation.
Thankyou Scott I now know more about the holy mass than I ever did going to Catholic school I am in awe of the mass now I want to know more and more about Jesus Mary and Joseph also about Jewish law because Jesus was jewish and what did He
Alleluia!
What A Savior!
Amen!
Thanks!
GREAT DR. SCOTT HAN FOR BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST THE TRUTH OF CATHOLICISM . INDEED HOLY MASS IS THE CELEBRATION OF JESUS CHRIST!
I had heard by a saint not sure which one but God would have destoyed the world long ago had it not been for the holy masses that are said throughout the world everyday because it reminds God the father of what His son did for us
Just fyi for a few of our separated brethren: Dr Scott Hahn was an anti Catholic Evangelical Presbyterian when he discovered this.
Really Compelling
The simple importance and significance of the Lords last supper was explained long enough that it had become complicated to hear!
I've discovered I think that the sacrifice of the Mass is the eternal sacrifice of Jesus for our redemption rather than the repeated sacrifice as has been claimed by others. Eternal in as much as Jesus does not exist in past and future.He exists in the present always. When Jesus sacrifices Himself for us He does so now always.When Moses asked God , who should I say that you are He answered tell them Yahweh sent you . I am sent you.I am that I am. He didn't say I was or I will be, but I am.Thus showing that when Jesus sacrifices Himself He does so now and at the Mass. Just my thoughts.
Not quite. Yes, Jesus in His divine nature exists outside of time. But in humbling Himself to take on a human nature, He entered the world and existed in time in His human nature. As Scripture says, Jesus sacrificed Himself once and for all. Heb. 10:10-14, 1 Peter 3:18, Heb. 7:27, Heb. 9:12, Heb. 9:26-28. That one sacrifice that took place some 2000 years ago is re-presented and re-offered at each Mass. When Jesus said, "It is finished," and handed over His spirit, His sacrifice ended in time and place.
@@cajundomer False. We do not re-offer, but offer. It is the same sacrifice then as it is now, eternally and forever, outside of time. There is only one sacrifice, and we share in the mystery at mass as if we ourselves are at the foot of the Cross. The past becomes future and the future past.
No, Daisy, I'm afraid you're dead wrong. We in the Orthodox Church agree whole heartedly with what Scott is saying here. Our Liturgy is also a Eucharistic sacrifice, with Jesus fully present in the elements. Haven't you listened to Scott here? You could also beg, borrow or purchase a book from Tan Publications entitled 'How Christ celebrated the First Mass'. This will show you how the lamb was slain, sacrificed and consumed, with instructions not to break any bones, and that it was to be skinned (scourged), etc. Also, when Satan takes over a new country or community the FIRST thing he always done is to abolish the Catholic Mass! ALSO again, Satanists only bother to raid consecrated hosts from Catholic churches, not from Protestant ones. Does that tell you anything? Ask for the Holy Spirit's enlightenment when you do some research.
Rob Marshall I'm half way through that book. Every page blows my mind. Is Dr Hahn offering anything new or does 'how Christ...' say it all?
The Catholic Church has always regarded the Eastern Orthodox priesthood to be valid and their Eucharist to be valid.
Praise the Lord
Thanks. AMEN+ AMEN +AMEN +
Can U come 2 preach a mission @ St. Paul parish in Princeton NJ. Our pastor's is Rev. Mgr. Rosie. He's very nice
Does anyone know if I can get this audio/youtube video translated in spanish or subtitled in Spanish?
+Monterrey0304 you can try Apolgeticasiloe.com or here in UA-cam try Frank morera la eucaristia is a spanish version of the same topic(not a translation).
Go look at Lighthouse Catholic Media. They are the ones that produced this.
Communion does not make us a saints, but Christ's cleansing Blood does as it separates us from the world to Him and His purposes!
Holy Communion is a participation in the merits and fruits of the cross..the shed blood of Jesus...
17:25 "if...the priest pronounced the words of consecration and then entirely skipped communion and proceeded onto the benediction. Do think you would notice that?" WELL DID YOU? THAT IS HOW WE ARE DOING MASS during this Covid-19 pandemic. Maybe we are meant to understand that the 4th cup is still occurring, that eternal Eucharistic sacrifice which still needs to consummate his people with God."
Has Scott Hahn ever attended a Tridentine Mass and if so what does he have to say about it?
Yes he do and he say he love.
Amen
As a member of an Anglican (Reformed Episcopal) parish, I greatly appreciate Dr. Hahn's wonderful lectures. One need not be a Catholic to enjoy the beauty of the liturgy, the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, and the wisdom of the Church Fathers!
K. Smith In love, yes one need be a Christian Catholic to enjoy the beauty of the Eucharist.
The Protestant Anglican Church does not enjoy the Eucharist - without validly ordained priests, the Eucharist cannot be consecrated into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ. One must be a member of the Catholic Church to receive the fruits of Christ's sacrifice - outside of Her, there is no salvation.
I'm so glad you appreciate these wonderful reflections. I hope you continue to follow in Scott Hahns path.
If you can come home and participate in this Eukaristic feast then why appreciate it from the distance
3:00 : What means "All is accomplished" John 19.30 as Romans 4.25 says suffering and resurrection is what Jesus deos for us.
8:30 : Eucharist is "to give thanks". Only use of the term "covenant" since Moses
10:00 : Seder meal celebrated by 1st century jews implies 4 cups of wine. Jesus stops at the cup of blessings (3rd)
18:40 : Cup of wrath
23:00 : wearing garment of high priest
24:00 : Exodus 12.46 : the lamb can't have a broken bone
35:00 : 4th cup is on the cross
Thanks David
Does anyone have a transcript of this talk?
Jesse Seva it’s a book by the same name
The book is out.
LIGHTHOUSE ✝️🌹✝️
And during the Coronavirus, they ran away and took the Blessed Sacrament with them. Bring us back the Sacrament, unless it really isn’t the True God.
I am in need of some religious insight. I am a Catholic in the RCIA program, yet I find that I am a doubting Thomas at times. Recently, I've been watching videos and researching Judaism. They reject Jesus as Lord obviously. I've looked at Isaiah 53 and yet they still have a rebuttal that the servant mentioned is Jesus. Basically, I would love for someone who is more knowledgeable than I in this regard to give me good resources to look into showing that Jesus is our Lord. Aren't Jews God's chosen people? How can they be wrong about this then? Thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.
Howard Merken I thank you for your response sir. How can they still be God's chosen people when they deny Christ?
Look up Roy Shoeman. He's a Jewish convert. You might even be able to speak to him directly if you email him. There's a lot to cover with your questions. Way too much to cover in a comment.
mike bustamante Thank you for directing me to better resources
Adam F Continue to flow with the RCIA I pray Jesus can guide you to all truth. Remember just take it one day at a time. People dislike the Church so much, they'll rebuke you, just learn the scriptures and offer a great rebuttal. I love you sibling. At the end of your life pray that you can say 2nd Timothy 4:7 not in vain. Blessings.
Catholic Renewed Thank you for your prayers, truly.
Cross of Calvary.✝️
How about first cup
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Let "this" cup pass...consummation cup.
Here is a detailed account of the Passover meal's sequential order: bible.org/article/passover-time-jesus I find the whole ceremony beautiful, reverent, and instructive.
Watch SIGNS FROM GOD: SCIENCE TESTS FAITH. About the Eucharist. Stunning.
Will anyone (including Scott Hahn) give credit to Mike Fulmer (www.the4thcup.com/) for coming out FIRST with this teaching some 8 years ago…
AlegreViajero44 Back in 1998 I had a series of cassette tapes by Dr.Hahn that I would listen to in the tape deck of my old car. This series dealt specifically the Passover and the fourth cup.
AlegreViajero44 I was listening to Scott Hahn back in 1988 as I prepare to be baptized in 1989. this presentation of Scott Hahn is simply an exegesis of what has been taught in the church since Jesus Christ himself established the sacrament during the Last Supper. Jesus Christ owns it
Jean-Pierre, I clicked on your link, but it says that web page does not exist.
Brothers and Sisters, all of us who love, adore and glorify our Lord Jesus Christ, is one in the Body of Christ (the Immaculate Bride of Christ). We are all sinners, who have been sought out by God (Jesus Christ). We as a family should support and love one another, not point out the splinter in our brothers eye, when we can’t see the beam in our own eye. Speak truth with love and understanding, and spread the Universal Truth of the Gospel, as Jesus asked. Our message is to everyone, and we should not shame, or degrade anyones worship of our Lord. Prayers to you all, and Thanks be to God, for all the gifts bestowed upon us🙏🏻
Hey David Clayton,
Speaking with The Love of The HolyBible GOD, why don't u just read yr bible let JESUS CHRIST reveal GOD's Truth to u? Simple right???
@@billy1132 Great suggestion, just finished reading today’s liturgy. 🙏🏻
@@davidclayton3099
Hey David Clayton,
Just read yr bible from John chapter 3 Verses 1 to 10.
Apart from any theology
Or whatever "gy"
@@billy1132 I have, and I’m born/ re-born of water and spirit. God so loved the world he gave us his only son. John 3 is a loving scripture of truth.
@@davidclayton3099
Wonderful👍
Dear David Clayton!
Let us go into the world n share CHRIST JESUS with all, esp unbiblical folks who call themselves 'christians'!!!
The Eucharist is installed by ChristJesus during the last supper.
St John the Evangelist wrote his gospel entirely in explaining the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist.
The connection of the Word and the Eucharist.
The middle part of the letter to Hebrews explains that the Catholic Christians are the Second Israel
The priesthood of Christ and Catholic priests has its origin from the eternal priesthood of Melchisedech. Was Melchisedech a Jew; it does not say.
Mary called Abraham the father in her "Magnificat".
Jesus was presented at the temple; was circumcised; and St.Joachim , the husband of St Anne , both couple are Mary's parents;
Jesus quoted Isaiah at the synagogue when, getting out of there he started his preaching.
Peter was the one who recognized and declared Christ as the Son of God; and was given the keys of the kingdom as Vicar of Christ.
The Hebrews were fed by the Mana to survive at the desert.
Looking back to the Old Testament ; Moses was not allowed to enter the promised land.
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interesting. You may find my patristic talks interesting.
You joined on the day of Jan. 27.... 🌹27🌹.. SIGNS ☝️
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Everything Jesus did was intentional. He was never "out of control". Under the NEW covenant, JESUS became the "consumator" between us and God. The cup "of consumation" was no longer needed.
Study THE BIBLE, the Word if God.
If he bring any other doctine, have nothing to do with him. Command.
I love my Catholic brothers and sisters ❤
But I believe Catholicism misses the mark on so many things not just the Eucharist.
They way you pray the our father and Hail Mary like robots, the way you glorify priests skipping the importance of every believer being considered a saint ,an image bearer of God … the Bible clearly teaches that when you truly believe that Jesus is the Son of God, acknowledge you are a sinner in need of being saved and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord over all or that He is the Passover lamb and was raised in Glory and sits at the right hand of God , you receive the HOLY SPIRIT which is the marking of your salvation the marking of your true faith …. Those that were saved on Pentecost received the Holy Spirit not the holy Eucharist
Jesus emphasized you must eat of my flesh and drink of my blood but as Catholics you don’t drink the blood of Christ do you? The priest does giving him what extra powers? You all crave that wafer as the source of some power but that’s not true worship , true worshipers is what Jesus says the Father wants are those who worship in SPIRIT having the Holy Spirit
There is so much biblical evidence for this
I want to understand my Catholic brothers but every time I listen to an explanation I see paganism and idolatry
Jesus and Paul preached over and over the UNITY IN THE SPIRIT, the unity of the body of Christ we see all members .. Jesus said I will send you the helper he will never leave you once you have true faith in me
Think about it 🙏🏼
Receiving the Holy Spirit not the Eucharist is much more important
There was no mention of "not eating the meat of the lamb" leading to the death of the first born, but absence of the blood of the lamb on door posts! "I will see the blood and pass over..." - this is the meaning of the Peisah. To say that eating the lambs meet was necessary for the first born staying alive is at least exaggeration and adding to the Word of God.
I agree. It is His blood that saves us, not eating the meat of the lamb. It i His shed blood that saves us!
But the entire lamb must be eaten that night. Reread Exodus
I agree with Nancy, it is very clear what was mandatory for the sacrifice to save those in the household. The blood was one part, but eating it was another. Both needed to be done.
@@nancyjanzen5676 and blood was in the meat too at least a little bit
Someone here asked a great question. Why celebrate Easter? Why celebrate Christmas, for that matter? We are given biblical authority to take the Lord's supper as a memorial.
1 Corinthians 11:24-25.
We also know that one's death is more blessed than the day of his birth.
Ecclesiastes 7:1.
By what authority, does the "Catholic Church Fathers" celebrate these other "holy days"?
My question is why not celebrate the entire life of Christ from birth to death. When did Jesus become man? When he was born or when he was conceived? Do you know we also his conception?
@@nancyjanzen5676You celebrate the life and death of Jesus everyday through the rosary. It is also the most powerful weapon against evil.
Desmon. When Jesus was concieved is when God became man and the whole process of salvation began. If the Christian world celebrated that no Christian could say I am pro life but...... The Catholics that have picked up the Protestant understanding are the ones who dont stand stong against abortion. Jesus was conceived, he was carried in Mary's womb for 9 months, he was born. He did not appear at the Jordan river as if by magic, though he could have. Maybe he was trying to tell you something those first 30 years.
Desmon, when the Lord handed down the last supper, He did so after the teaching in John 6. In John chapter 6, starting at verse 32, Jesus teaches on the real meaning of eating His body and drinking His blood and it's significance. All the Apostles say it is a hard teaching and they did not understand. Jesus did not say this is symbolic. He did not say I am speaking figuratively. He meant what he said in John 6:54. Thousands of people left that day because it was a hard teaching. I wonder if the Apostles finally started to understand at the Last Supper that Jesus was instituting the Eucharistic celebration that would last forever. Like the bread that fed the 5,000 people at the beginning of John Chapter 6. We read at the beginning of chapter 6 how the bread multiplies itself and the little wafer called the manna was the bread from heaven that fed them for 40 years, towards the middle of the chapter how Jesus is the bread from heaven, and at the end, how we must eat (in one case he actually used the word gnaw, like you are eating the pascal lamb at Passover) His flesh. If you are just doing something in memorial, are you really eating Jesus body and drinking His blood? Only in a supernatural setting where the Apostles would call upon Jesus to enter the bread and wine and turn it into His body and blood, could this be done. The early church did this and there is reference in the early writings by the church fathers that they were accused of cannibalism. And one more thing that might shock a lot of people is that Martin Luther, the fallen away monk, believed in the true presence in the Eucharist. Calvin tried to side step the issue and say it was only the true presence at the moment it entered a person's body. Both Luther and Calvin both believed Jesus was present at some point in the Eucharist. Ponder John 6:51 "if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." and in 53-58 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.” Jesus never backs down. He never says I was kidding. He meant what He said and He said what He meant. He wants us to believe we are eating His body and drinking His blood. I believe....
Desmon why do you quote Paul on the Eucharist but ignore the words of Jesus on the Eucharist?
hi Nicholas I have to disagree with you although I wish I didn't. it's well known by historians that the Passover rites of the Seder developed and the four cups were added later. I have done extensive research on this.
So what are you saying, Miles? Are you saying that you have done more studying and research on this topic than Scott Hahn, who has devoted his life to studying and teaching scripture, and has studied numerous ancient writings and can speak numerous languages?
miles erb, you raised a little contention. Don't give up. Don't just claim, "I've studied." If you want to win a debate, state your sources. make sure they're not biased. Don't pick anti Catholic sources, pick historically accurate sources and document your sources. I'm afraid you'll find that the evidence is against Protestantism but you need to follow this argument to its end. I'm sorry but its my belief the truth leads to God and the Holy Catholic Church. "To truly study history is to cease being protestant."
Also, don't miss the point of this talk by Dr. Scott Hahn. Christ died and was resurrected to unite all men and bring them to God free from sin.
Correction, "To be deep in history is to cease to be protestant." Cardinal John Henry Newman.
The blind leading the blind!!!
I am RCC. Basis for new Mass is masonic....is it still valid? Is it false?
John Raymond
New Mass or the Novus Ordo is considered Valid, but I myself only attend the Extraordinary Mass or the TLM. The New Mass isn’t sacred enough for me in my view and opinion.
At the rapture of the church is when we will drink the 4th cup with Jesus in heaven.
Coming up soon! Or should I say. GOING UP SOON ! I hope to see you there !
4th cup? what if someone comes n preach a 5th, 6th, or 7th cup??
You're awfully stupid.
The Pasdover Seder has four cups of wine. The last one is the one Dr Hahn is speaking of. There are no other cups.
You protest in vain
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Oh dear, the simple mark of losing an arguement is to abuse people!!
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Surely there are many who will see n come to know The Holy Bible Truth n like me, turn my back to the church of rome n Come Home to JESUS n CHRIST Alone in Protestant christian churches!!
As a protestant, I hear Scott and it just feels like Christianity to me. I don’t really see a difference between Catholicism and Protestantism aside from veneration of saints and iconography.
There’s a huge huge huge difference
Jesus says you must eat His Body and drink His Blood or you have no life in you. But, no other christian denomination even claims to be providing His Body and Blood fully except the Catholic Church (there are some claiming something similar, but not the real deal from the very beginning of the Church). So, I'm not sure how you think you can achieve what Jesus says you must do if you are not receiving His Real Presence in the Eucharist. Clearly, those that heard Him first hand understood He wasn't talking about a symbol or spiritual "eating". Because they balked at it and left Him because it was too hard a teaching. Jesus didnt back down from what He said either.
Christian denominations disconnected them from the holy lineage of the priesthood, established by Jesus Himself (Mtt16) whose ordination sacramentally enables the consecration: changing of the bread and wine into the substance of Jesus. When Luther left the Church, the communion by protestants and christians could only ever be symbolic. And, they dont even think any sort of liturgical sacrifice is necessary any more anyway (which is not true). So, no. There is absolutely a significant difference between doing what Jesus emphatically and repeatedly said was necessary for life and resurrection and not doing it for whatever reasons.
But Dr Hahn Jesus was crucified on Passover, He being our Passover Lamb. The Last Supper was eaten on the day before Passover.
Nope. He was crucified on the day of preparation. Which was every Friday...even during Passover week. For centuries upon centuries, the Friday during Passover week was called the preparation of passover...no matter where in fell during Passover week. If preparation day fell on the day after (or any day after) Passover it was called the preparation of Passover. I suggest you study historical Judaism on the college level before making a statement such as you have. Many Jews here see poor understanding in your comment. Best of luck in better understanding of very simple things.
LOL John you truly are full of yourself. Jesus was crucified on the 14 Nisan 30CE which was a Wednesday. Either way the Last Supper was not a Passover Seder.
@@SolaChristo I had heard it was a Wednesday as well so that Jesus could be in the ground for three days to fulfill Matt 12:40, 16:4; and Luke 11:30 in the Bible. But I also agree with John that it was on the day of preparation, John 19:31 "Since it was the day of Preparation, in order to prevent the bodies from remaining on the cross on the sabbath (for that sabbath was a high day)" So Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation as the Bible states. There is the sabbath and there are the major feasts: Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. Which sabbaths are also referred to as "high days?"
The first day of the feast - The High Day (Yom tov) -- the 15th day of Nisan (Our Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunset), night 1 and day 1 in the tomb
The second day of the feast - the 16th day of Nisan (Our Thursday sunset to Friday sunset), night 2 and day 2 in the tomb
The third day of the feast - The Weekly Sabbath - the 17th day of Nisan (Our Friday sunset to Saturday sunset), night 3 and day three in the tomb.
The first day of the week - the 18th day of Nisan (Our Saturday sunset completes the 3 days, Jesus is raised from the dead sometime between Saturday sunset (the beginning of Sunday for the first century Jew) and Sunday morning.
"From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised." MATT 16:21
When we chose to remember those moments is not as necessary as when the events actually happen and show the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.
A simple question for now, why do you do Easter, a heathen/pagan celebration, if it is supposed to be about Passover? Polycarp supported keeping Passover, but the western church, Rome, pushed for Easter. Yahweh commanded his people to keep Passover, even Paul kept it and told the Corinthians to keep the feast. Yeshua kept the feast as well, and as we all know is our Passover lamb. Again, why celebrate Easter? Remember what Deut 13 states.
"Easter" is an English word, not a Latin one. You will not find the word "Easter" anywhere in the authentic Latin books of the Roman liturgy. I don't think it would matter either way, as such a hang up over a word strikes me as slightly superstitious. But to whatever degree it might matter to you, "Easter" is strictly an anglophone usage.
It is only called Easter in English. All other cultures and languages of Catholicism use a form of Passover or Pasch, Pasqua, Pascua, Paques. Blame it on the English language not the religion.
@@matthewaislabie7354 really you need an intervention
@@nancyjanzen5676 Yeah we probably all do.
@@matthewaislabie7354 it is called Easter only because it falls mostly in that month. Kind of like the fourth of July which is actually Independence Day.
Jesus is protestant - but I enjoyed this video.
Jesus was Jewish... and protestantism didn't exist until the late 1500s
I agree Jesus was Jewish - the roots of Protestantism are prior to 15th century. God bless you.
Do you realize that Martin Luther was a German monk in the Catholic church? Do you realize that both Martin Luther and John Calvin agreed that Jesus' Body and Blood are truly present in the Eucharist. They just didn't agree as to when the transubstantiation actually happened.
@@gracepilgrim7765 Jesus said His Kingdom (singular) is like a mustard seed that becomes a great tree. If you cut a branch off (in the 1500's) it is disconnected from the roots.
In what sense do you say _"the roots of Protestantism are prior to 15th century"_ ?
The abuses around indulgences in Germany (which is what Luther "protested" against) were corrected by The Cathoilic Church. But too late; protest proliferated under its own momentum as the slogan "Sola Scriptura" generated thousands of opinions as to Biblical interpretation.....because scripture is _not_ self-interpreting.
The seeds of this Protestant-Babel were planted in setting up the individual ego as the highest authority of Truth.
This was not Reform but Rebellion. And rebellion was the sin of Lucifer ("I will not serve"),
He incited this same sin in Eve & Adam, ("I will not obey")
And it is the sin of Protestantism, & of modern, American "democratic individualism". ("I will have no Pope or Bishop over me"). "I am my own Pope/Church/Bible." "I am NOT a humble sheep in need of a Shepherd"
PRIDE is the first(& deadliest) of the 7 deadly sins, for a reason. It is, & was, the "gateway-sin" that through disobedIence makes all other sin possible.
Thus Humility is the first & most important virtue. Read the lives of the Catholic Saints & you will see this. Study the "Reformers" & you will find self-appointed-prophets full of pride. They claim to have "rediscovered" the true Church that had been lost for 1500 years....yet they worked no signs or wonders (So they said that the age of miracles is past).
And, although Jesus said His Church (The Messiah's Kingdom) will NEVER fail (Matt 16:18), the Protestant narrative requires that Jesus's effort flunked & had to be restarted by Luther, then Calvin, then Zwingli, Melancthon, Fox, Smyth etc etc etc etc.....
This narrative defies all the prophecies (That the Messiah is God's LAST Word to Man) and it is faintly blasphemous (That Luther will succeed where Jesus failed).
This narrative also requires The Holy Spirit to go to sleep & desert His Church for at least 1500 years (or 1900 years if you are a Pentecostal). Then He wakes up & goes berserk creating thousands of Churches!
@@wilts43 well said
"The Lamb is slain, but something remains for us to do..." - really??? Jesus said on the cross Tetelestai - Finished - it means that the handwriting against us is blotted away (Col 2:14) - paid in full!!! If one believes that he or she can add something to the Finished Work of Christ, then he or she believed false Gospel of self-righteousness and of works! (Gal 1:6-9) There is nothing remains to us to do to consummate God's' plan of redemption! He paid dear price - the very life of His Son - the Blood! Our part is to repent and believe in the Gospel of Christ (Mk 1:15) - Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, was buried and rose again on third day for our justification! (1 Cor 15) Be aware to fall away from the true Gospel!
Amen, amen!! When He said "It is finished", He meant the sacrifices and the law were finished, to be done away with.
Nikolay, is that your opinion based on what you read? If it is your opinion, can it be considered a fallible teaching of the scriptures? When Christ was crucified, He was crucified for ALL mankind!! That doesn't mean that ALL mankind is saved and everyone goes to heaven. There are still things we need to do. If you don't believe in the saving acts of Jesus ("For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16), you might not be given eternal life. If you don't eat His body and drink His blood you may not have eternal life (""Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:53). People who say they believe in Jesus but do not show it by their works may not have the saving faith needed for entry ("Do you want to be shown, you foolish fellow, that faith apart from works is barren? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works", James 2:20-22). St. Paul even says to a group of Christians "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;" Phil 2:12 Why would Paul tell believers in the Crucified Jesus to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling if it was already guaranteed. I don't think St. Paul believed it was guaranteed and neither should we. I used the word might quite a bit because from the way I read scripture, God always can show mercy on whomever He pleases and save them just because He wants to save them. I don't want to be like Job and have God say “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding." Job 38:4.
Well said brother. For many years people have been trying to add to the finished work of Christ. The resurrection wasn’t the finishing of His work, it was an after effect , Jesus never sinned, He paved the way for our resurrection. I don’t understand everything about Christianity, I’ve been studying the Bible for 32 years and am still growing in my faith. Paul talks about another gospel in Galatians chap 1. Any religion that adds to His finished work on the cross is a false gospel. We cannot do anything to earn our salvation, Ephesians 2 tells us that by grace we are saved, it is a gift of God lest any man should boast. God. Less you
@@ketidaco Resurrection is also part of our redemption...in it Christ destroyed our death itself....
Yes, we are commanded to do it - Eucharist of the remembrance of Him, but when Jesus was introducing elements to His disciples He was in His body and His blood was not yet shed. So the all doctrine of transubstantiation is not based upon the Scripture since Communion shows us the Unity of the Body of Christ, proclaims His death for the sins of the World (paid in full - Tetelestai) and His resurrection for our justification - remembrance of our emancipation from slavery to sin - likened to the exodus of children of Israel from Egypt.
The most important is not the meal, but the remembrance (according to the words of the Lord) of Him Who stands behind those elements, namely the Lamb of God - Christ crucified!
remembrance of the Passover is not like just remembering. It is a making present of ourselves at that first Eucharist.
When the Lord handed down the last supper, He did so after the teaching in John 6. In John chapter 6, starting at verse 32, Jesus teaches on the real meaning of eating His body and drinking His blood and it's significance. All the Apostles say it is a hard teaching and they did not understand. Jesus did not say this is symbolic. He did not say I am speaking figuratively. He meant what he said in John 6:54. Thousands of people left that day because it was a hard teaching. I wonder if the Apostles finally started to understand at the Last Supper that Jesus was instituting the Eucharistic celebration that would last forever. Like the bread that fed the 5,000 people at the beginning of John Chapter 6. We read at the beginning of chapter 6 how the bread multiplies itself and the little wafer called the manna was the bread from heaven that fed them for 40 years, towards the middle of the chapter how Jesus is the bread from heaven, and at the end, how we must eat (in one case he actually used the word gnaw, like you are eating the pascal lamb at Passover) His flesh. If you are just doing something in memorial, are you really eating Jesus body and drinking His blood? Only in a supernatural setting where the Apostles would call upon Jesus to enter the bread and wine and turn it into His body and blood, could this be done. The early church did this and there is reference in the early writings by the church fathers that they were accused of cannibalism. And one more thing that might shock a lot of people is that Martin Luther, the fallen away monk, believed in the true presence in the Eucharist. Calvin tried to side step the issue and say it was only the true presence at the moment it entered a person's body. Both Luther and Calvin both believed Jesus was present at some point in the Eucharist. Ponder John 6:51 "if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." and in 53-58 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.” Jesus never backs down. He never says I was kidding. He meant what He said and He said what He meant. He wants us to believe we are eating His body and drinking His blood. I believe....
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It's both ..Protestants miss out on the family idea of communion...and part of the instruction for the Passover lamb in Exodus was to eat the lamb and sprinkle his blood on the doorposts with a hysop branch
Jesus was the Lamb of God that is true
On the moment of His death Jesus did not literally become Ovis aries, his body remained human to the very end. While he was the sacrificial Lamb that Abraham killed instead of his Son, and the lamb the Jews slain when they were in Egypt, He was never literally a lamb, neither was the Lamb in any of these situations literally Christ.
I love the insight of the narration, but I feel it just convinced me more that during Eucharist the bread is only symbolically Christ
HQ Life read John6: 52-71.
PLEASE READ JOHN 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think with the word "symbolic " simply because we don't symbolically burn in hell .
The true presence of God is in the Tabernacle of God .
If you are symbolically saved do you symbolically burn in hell or do you literally burn in hell ?
If your baptism is symbolic is your salvation symbolic?
If the body is symbolic is life symbolic ?
The concept of symbolic is literally dangerous .
Nope.
ALL GOOD CATHOLICS SHOULD READ ACTS 3 VERSE 20, 21......THIS PROVES JESUS IS NOT IN THE EUCHARIST....BELIEVE THE BIBLE AND NOT THE RCC
Daisy, Jesus is both divine and human, God and man. His spirit can be anywhere while His body remains in Heaven. All things are possible for Him, He can be anywhere He wants!.
Haven't we taught our little ones that Jesus lives in their hearts? If His Spirit lives within us, as it should, we can better understand Dr. Hahn's message. I will pray for you!
You mean acts from the bible? The one that was canonized by the Catholic Church? The very book you read from called the bible didn't fall from the sky. It was canonized (arranged) by the Catholic Church. Daisy if you go into history you cease to be protestant. Read the bible, are you one of those who in John 6:66 who left Jesus when he said my flesh is flesh indeed to eat? Are you accusing Jesus of being a crazy by offering his flesh for us to "knaw" on ?
john o.....did you actually read the acts.?....Jesus is not coming down to earth until He comes again to set all things right....what is it you don't understand about that ?
marcia. thanks for your prayers...but the church is saying that His body and blood, soul and divinity is in that host....think about it...if that were true really and you are ingesting Him, wouldn't you think you would at least FEEL something ?...the idea is preposterous and not biblical..it's what the church teaches and it's wrong, dead wrong.
john o......i have never been so sure of something in my life as far as the church is concerned......wolves have come into the true church from the beginning....paul mentioned this, he could see it happening...this is where the RCC started....always was wrong and always will be....there would have been a small number of people that kept to the gospel that Paul taught.
Amen