Sonia betraying Griffith is unlikely, that girl would probably toss herself into a fiery pit if Griffith said so. Zodd is more likely to go his separate way.
It’s more likely than you think. She may see Griffith for what he truly is eventually and all the things he’s done to get where he is. If most knew the real Griffith they wouldn’t have so much trust in him.
Zodd is definitely moving away from Griffiths side - we can see that in the recent chapters. But Sonia’s animosity is also growing, and I think it will be fuelled by her jealousy of Casca more than a betrayal of Griffith. Casca being around is going to cause problems in Falconia
Really like the ending, I feel if Sonia were to betray Griffith it would be less a true betrayal and more something to remove Casca from Griffiths side that goes "too far" opposed to an active betrayal like you presented. Good ending though, really enjoyed the idea
I find this interesting, because it seems to me she is slowly growing further and further away from Griffith. She definitely is going to play a role in the ending though - it seems like a wasted character if not!
On one side, Sonya seems like the kind of person that would blindly follow Griffith regardless of his actions. However I don’t fully know if she could stay loyal to him after finding out that he’d basically sacrifice her and her friends the same way he did to the OG Hawks if it meant he gained more power.
@@TheNerdLounge To be fair, there are more fans than I care to admit that excuse his actions. I’m sure there would be some in world characters that would support Femto as well, even if they did know what he did.
The behelit guts is carrying isn’t a crimson one so I don’t know if it would factor into the ending like that. But we do need to know what purpose guts has been carrying this thing through the entire series for.
I theorized that Guts would be approached by the Four Cardinal Kings that Shierke mentioned. He'd receive an offer to become one of them at the cost of leaving his old life behind to fully embrace a spiritual one, carrying out the will of an already-existing spiritual god that opposes the Godhand. He'd dedicate his spiritual life to vanquishing demons to protect humanity, not settle a long-held grudge. But the idea of Guts' year-long struggle ending in the conception of a new god of love and hope... that sounds perfectly in line with the Idea of Evil's conception.
My initial thought was, that Guts will become like Skull Knight - not dead, not alive either. He might defeat Griffith, but at a great cost. Sonia might turn, but i wonder how. I don't think the reason will be Casca's memories. Sonia's moral compass isn't working right. She was way too pleased to be around those monsters and apostilles, even promised meat/body? to one, like they are her pets. Even if she sees what her glorious kind has done at the eclipse, she'd take it as ''but he needed to do it for the greater good and to create Falconia''. Bittersweet end can mean lots of things. bitter (some will die) sweet (but not all). Casca and Guts may die, but the moonlight boy can stay as their legacy. Or Casca will sacrifice herself for one or both of them. But the family ending up together and safe? It's too good to be true. I want a third duel between G and G, but that may not happen at this state. Why would Griffith fight the regular human way? Out of sentiment for the old days? If it happens, i have some options in my mind. Griffith will stop last second (due to the boy in him, let's say), but Guts will not, thus will stab Griffith mortally. OR Griffith will stab Guts, who has stopped last min. giving up his revenge.
I like your ideas of a final duel. The idea of one of them stopping, and the other not being able to stop in time - it reflects a lot of what the story is saying. I still hope for a happier ending for Guts, Casca and Moonlight Boy - they’ve been through enough!
I still think that Zod will join Guts. Probably he will die from Grifith.S hand or soldiers. Think about it. They team up before and from the last chapters, seems zod will leave Grifith. The ending might fit well
Still revisiting this video. I constantly wonder how Guts will defeat the God Hand, but this perspective does a great job at wrapping up the story without Guts and a mega power up to defeat the GH.
I do LOVE the Theresia bit and feel like that could certianly be a feature of the ending but there are a few holes with the rest of this. For one, the Moonlight Child IS Griffith. He is Griffith reborn into a mortal body, once again capable of the love he holds for Guts and Casca. To "unfuse" the two would not only feel weird, i'm not even sure it could be done at all. Secondly(and arguably more importantly), there are many Behelits and the one Guts carries isn't even a Crimson Behelit, we have color pages from the time Muira was alive to prove that. It's not the same one Griffith used so deleting this one from the timeline does nothing to stop Griffith's ascension in the past. Nor would i think it'd actually do anything for Griffith since he's already used a much more powerful one. If we want to keep with the cycle then Guts might attempt to use one like Gaiseric did(remember the corpses under Wyndham had the mark) but like Guts did with Griffith we'll see Casca attempt to stop him. And to break the cycle she'll succeed. (mind you that last bit is just wild, off-the-cuff speculation) Other people also doubt the Sonia bit but i'll back you up on this one, i think it'd be a neat bit of narrative mirroring to have Sonia go through what Farnese did and with her powers i feel like what you proposed is plausable. Honestly, i'm not even sure Guts and Griffith will fight. As Femto, maybe. At least for a bit. But that tear in the morning light leads me to believe Griffith deep down realises he was mistaken about his dream, that he longs to be with them again but just cannot stop. It wouldn't surprise me if him stealing Casca away is some convoluted, subconsious way for him to get Guts back to him again. Knowing that he can contain Casca and that Guts will follow.
Yeah in this theory I definitely overlooked Skully, because it didn’t fit my narrative and didn’t want to shoehorn him in. But yeah, he’s defo gonna have more interaction with the ending.
I like your version of what the ending could be. Personally, i want to see Casca get the final blow on Griffith or better yet the original band of the hawk coming out of the vortex that is hell to drag him into the vortex would be amazing.
To be fair, I get wanting Casca to get at least a lil bit of revenge! And the Band Of The Hawk idea is amazing - like when Vargas came up to get The Count.
Sonia will def turn on griffith and somewhat redeem herself. There's too much focus on Schierke and Sonia for them not to befriend each other in the end. that whole miniarc in the slave docks where they talk about their struggles gives it away. Most likely outcome is that Sonia gets devastated after seeing griffith's true form and breaks down, that's when schierke comes in with that "owl and the kite" schmeal. Maybe the fantasia state of the world is broken during the whole final battle between guts and griffith, therefore people start going back to living in villages, which leads to schierke going on a journey (like Flora did) of helping those in need after the world has kinda gone back to "normal". That would close up her character (since she's introduced as someone who hates humans) but now has companions (Mule and Sonia) to help her in this humanitarian mission. I can't think of a way that makes all those characters feel more fully developed than that.
I find it interesting for those people that don’t think the story will have a happy / bittersweet ending. I’ve never had any doubt, it’s kind of the message that I’ve taken from the series. Otherwise, it’s promoting an idea of struggling for nothing - and that doesn’t seem right to me. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@TheNerdLounge maybe from the panels we've gotten where his eyesight faulters when not wearing the armor. The first time I think it's in bubbles of futility. I don't think guts is dying, losing sight or anything on that level. I think the ending will actually be more sweet than bitter to justify the journey, if it's too bitter or grim like never being able to see again, it wouldnt be that satisfying.
I like a lot of this, but I'd rather guts die, but somewhat live on through the moonlight child. both Guts' and Griffiths paths ended. letting him have a happy ending seems wrong
I wrote another reply similar to this - but I feel like a happy / bittersweet ending is the ONLY way to go. Otherwise, what was Guts fighting for all this time? I don’t think Miura wants to push an idea of Struggling for Nothing. However, like you said, if he lives on, maybe that’s the happy ending….
@@cameronsmart9255 thats the thing, the journey loses purpouse the minute caska or guts die, or if the idea of evil keeps feeding off souls of the marked ones. I mean, the whole band of the hawk is still suffering in hell mostly underserved, because of the mark. So for the ending to not be grim, they'd have to free at least the souls of those marked by the godhand, including guts and caska, otherwise guts' entire journey will never be actually complete, if he dies while still marked he's just going to hell anyway to be tortured for eternity.
And what happens with the brand of sacrifice on Guts and Casca ? It's not a happy ending if they are guaranted to end up in hell and it's not a happy ending if the OG band of the hawk keeps suffering in the Abbys
My idea of the “Idea Of Good” is that it can be implied that the Godhand, Abyss and the Brands kind of fade out of reality - as belief in them is gone.
It would be cool if the fight between guts and Griffith, Griffith lose his left eye by crossbow shot by casca and right arm cut off by guts. And than he admit defeat. And throw himself off on top of the castle. I think that would fit for him much more..
but why the setup for the world to lose faith in griffith for that to not affect the ending whatso ever? the loss of faith is supposed to have an effect, maybe making griffith able to be hit also i dont understand why destroying a behelit would mean it never existed, that seems lame the moonlight child should actually affect the ending, not just show up at the end and heal guts lol too poetic for me no no no no to idea of good i would be so pissed off if this is how it ended, too sappy lol but i enjoyed the video and i lack an opinion to express
To be fair, I went for a bit more of a “fun” ending and leaned into the happiness of it. My idea was the the loss of faith for Griffith is what pushes him to sacrifice again - but I like the idea of that loss of faith stripping him of his power. The behelit thing was just a fun lil means to an end - this is one of the only parts of my ending that I’m 100% WONT happen haha!
@@TheNerdLounge I liked the ending you thought out, I thought the idea of hope resurging in the world kind of made me think of "The Dark Ages" during the middle ages. Since the berserk world is modelled after europe during the middle ages that would be a paralell you could draw.
So i like the idea that Guts gets a "power up" that doesn't actually do anything against Griffith but it literally severs Causality. The good ending after all the despair, horror and tragedy is honestly a good focus especially post conviction. I do think that it's a little too good though. I feel like no matter what happens, Guts is going to die but maybe the rest of this can play out in a similar way. I don't think Sonia will betray Griffith but i certainly think she will put those memories into Charlotte who will then resent Griffith and immediately work to undermine him by convening with Guts and co. I think the way everyone finds out could be through some magic from the mages.
Thanks for your comment! Quite a lot of people have disagreed about Sonia - which I find interesting. I just can't see people blindly support Griffith once they know the truth....
@@TheNerdLounge it's probably just because of that one speech she gave all the humans to convince them to march with Griffith's war demons against Ginishka's army.
i appreciate you doing this and its not all too bad but if you dont mind i have a few criticisms im just gonna leave here. i think sonia betraying griffith is unlikely. even if she saw casca's memories. characters like zodd are foreshadowed to betray griffith but i doubt sonia would, def not that quick anyway. also the beast becoming a physical entity is just dumb and out of nowhere. i dont mind the idea of it being given physical form but the context for it is just not making sense here. we see griffith looking at the beast in . its just a representation of guts' insanity, not an actual demon. and zodd just deciding to let guts through after guts hesistates to kill him???????? fr? zodd will def become atleast vaguely friendly with guts and betray griffith but not with just another simple duel, zodd needs a reason to leave griffith the same way guts left griffith. zodd already looks like hes questioning griffiths actions when griff takes casca to falconia. i also think this ending completely ignores the fact that guts is useless currently? he cant aim with his throwing knives, hes nearly fucking blind, brother dropped the dragon slayer while training on elfhelm and the most recent chapter could be implying that hes lost ALL of his eyesight. without the berserker armour he is literally crippled. the god slayer thing is dumb and a bit OP. i like the idea of guts shattering causality, but i still think you should at least incorporate Skull knights betchi sword into it, maybe that stuff can be layered on the dragon slayer, good chekovs gun situation since its already established in the story. if it doesnt work on griffith it can at least work on other apostles or god hand members. i think cascas healing is far too rushed, especially in such a traumatic environment with her abuser right there. if casca was right there surrounded by all of that triggering stuff she would have a complete mental breakdown. grifffiths humanity being his downfall is really good tho, since most of the apostles guts defeats (mainly during black swordsman but also lost children) are killed by guts taking advantage of their remaining humanity like the slug counts daughter being held hostage. i like the idea of the cycle being that every 5 eclipses they just sacrifice a city / kingdom full of people. its cool and it provides an explanation as to what we saw through the berserker memories, plus i think that was already kinda implied considering the city we saw being cooked by tentacles during gaiserics memories. i also think that griffith will betray the godhand rather than the other way around. in the same way griffith made his way out of the den of snakes in midland all trying to kill him, he will manipulate his way through the godhand so that if they do try and betray him and shatter his dream, he will be prepared. its the perfect chekovs gun for this situation. his human impulses being his weakness is a great idea, parallels his torture being a result of his night with the princess. that being said, i think void and SK paralleling griffith and guts is also something to be said. void could have plans within plans, seeing himself in griffith and preparing for any potential betrayel from him, not to mention the fact that the old godhand is gone for some reason, which could have been voids doing. speaking of skull knight, hes definetly not done cooking up plans to take down the godhand. the fact that skull knight is at least a thousand years old means that 1. griffiths "distorted space" is something SK isnt familiar with. and 2. that means the betchi sword would most likely work on other godhand members. we also see void deflect SKs sword with a portal rather than it just phasing through, and that wasnt even the sword of acctuation, so i definetly think SK could kill a godhand member with the acctuation-behelit juice. the moonlight child wont have such an easy answer. i 100% percent believe guts would sacrifice it to kill griffith but it def wont be as simple as simply splitting them both. best case scenario they work it out like divorced parents, griffith gets his body back on weekends and casca and guts get their kid during the weekdays, but for some reason i doubt itll be that simple. also im sorry but the "idea of good" is corny and doesnt fit berserk at all. there is no paradise for you to escape to. it also ignores the fact that berserks world *is* currently in a stage of hope despite the fantasia apocalypse. people are hopeful for the future, griffith is literally a saviour and that is a result of the people of the world desiring and manifesting an era of hope through the collective consciousness. i dont think guts will die but i dont think hes gonna have a happy ending and change the world for the better either. berserk will always be gray. not happy but not hopeless either. this ending also completely ignores the perfect oppertunity to use the "rickert slap" checov gun. rickert is the only character to physically lay a hand on griffith after hes reborn from the conviction arc ceremony. there is at least some plan to physically harm griffith foreshadowed into the story and we know that because of the slap. i think berserks references to spirituality could mean its to do with intention, as in anyone intending harm on griffith is physically unable to, but rickerts slap was more of a shameful disrespectful slap rather than intending to inflict pain. the only other moment anyone even manages to get a hair off griffith is when guts swings his dragon slayer at him in chapter 366, when he LITERALLY only gets a single strand of griffiths hair from him. i think the god hand could be trying to manifest the idea of evil into the real world, kinda similar to the mind flayer from stranger things. weve seen slan manifest herself a physical body using troll entrails before, and we saw one of the other godhand members do something similar with rats, so the idea of evil manifesting itself into reality maybe through the world spiral tree with human flesh or maybe even the sacrificed bodies of the previous empire isnt too farfetched, could be something similar enough to gaiserics memories, like theyre feeding the people of falconia / previously gaiserics empire straight to the idea of evil. it would raise the stakes as now there is a giant lovecraftian boss battle they have to deal with, like the AOT ending lol (not that i like the aot ending). edit: one more thing. considering guts is going blind, lost his ability to taste, etc. i think his fate is a lot like griffiths vision of being taken care of by casca as a cripple after his torture. guts will never be able to wield a sword again after this war, not unless he gets a fresh body and that is not happening if were being real
Bro said "A Few Criticisms" then wrote an essay :D Thank you for the effort you put into this comment! Like I said at the start, this video was just for fun - and if I'd given events a lot more thought they probably would have coincided more fluently. A few of the thing you mentioned were definitely my "means to an end" - such as the Sonia betrayal, the Godslayerand Guts' current state. The "Humanity" thing you mentioned is something I NEEDED to include - especially after my reread of Black Swordsman. It's a running theme that the Apostles maintain humanity - and so does Griffith (through his actions towards Guts and Cas). So this being his downfall seemed right. Again, thank you for your effort into this comment - it was a really interesting read - especially your own personal theories!
Yeah I agree. Killing him isn't punishment enough for me. He fears losing his leadership and being seen as weak - so reverting to his pre-Femto state seems perfect to me!
tell me you didn't understand Berserk without telling me you didn't understand Berserk. Actually fuck that he explained why Berserk shouldn't have a grim tragic ending along with showing a interview from the author saying that he doesn't think a evil sad ending would match the story. No forget that. the world is evil and big guy swings even bigger sword. that's all Berserk is and you would be right but only for the Black Swordsmen arc and not even that fully. Should all of Guts' perservierence be rewarded with failure just to stick it to everyone?
@@revengance4149 "there is no paradise for you to escape to". theres a reason 364 was the cannon last chapter to so many fans. berserk will not have a bleak ending but it will not have a 100% optimistic ending. guts perservierence will be rewarded but god, it will not be as easy as "kill le bad guy with enchanted sword". guts is crippled, he is going blind, there is no chance he uses the berserker armour in this war and doesnt become a literal bean LMFAO. there is no chance the moonlight boy and griffith simply just split into 2 different beings. this is not a shonen
@@phantom2615 no this isn't shounen, this is fanfic, good fanfic imo, but just fanfic. I'd assume it would be more bittersweet as well as you said, most likely some thing that happened here will actually come about this way while other plotpoint won't be solved that easily. That said "Berserk is dark and thus cannot have a happy ending" is still one of the most braindead takes I ever heard. The problem with this ending are that it seems unrealistic and convienient (as to be expected from a fanfic of such a complex and delecate story) but not that it's to happy. Berserk can end with all the characters on a picknick so long as it feels earned. Im exgagerating but you get the point. also something being a shounen does not mean it's written worse than any given dark fantasy
Exactly. Whilst this video is a 100% optimistic ending - I don't think that's the actual way it will go. BUT there is going to be some happiness in the ending - otherwise the story is literally "Big man swing big sword"....
I’m not gonna lie, yeah that’s weird. Their relationship has its struggles - but they truly love one another, it’s basically the point of the whole story.
This would be a satisfying ending well done man
Thanks Jonathan!
Sonia betraying Griffith is unlikely, that girl would probably toss herself into a fiery pit if Griffith said so. Zodd is more likely to go his separate way.
It’s more likely than you think. She may see Griffith for what he truly is eventually and all the things he’s done to get where he is. If most knew the real Griffith they wouldn’t have so much trust in him.
Zodd is definitely moving away from Griffiths side - we can see that in the recent chapters. But Sonia’s animosity is also growing, and I think it will be fuelled by her jealousy of Casca more than a betrayal of Griffith. Casca being around is going to cause problems in Falconia
@@TheNerdLoungei agree
Come on bruh she doesn't even know Griffith's whole story, watch when she finds out how he obtained them powers 👀.
this is now my head canon. Thank you. I can now rest.
Noooo, it’s not that good!
Really like the ending, I feel if Sonia were to betray Griffith it would be less a true betrayal and more something to remove Casca from Griffiths side that goes "too far" opposed to an active betrayal like you presented. Good ending though, really enjoyed the idea
I find this interesting, because it seems to me she is slowly growing further and further away from Griffith. She definitely is going to play a role in the ending though - it seems like a wasted character if not!
On one side, Sonya seems like the kind of person that would blindly follow Griffith regardless of his actions. However I don’t fully know if she could stay loyal to him after finding out that he’d basically sacrifice her and her friends the same way he did to the OG Hawks if it meant he gained more power.
This is my general take as well. I can't imagine blindly following him after you know the truth.
@@TheNerdLounge To be fair, there are more fans than I care to admit that excuse his actions. I’m sure there would be some in world characters that would support Femto as well, even if they did know what he did.
@@TheHarpoonDrone this is true :(
The behelit guts is carrying isn’t a crimson one so I don’t know if it would factor into the ending like that. But we do need to know what purpose guts has been carrying this thing through the entire series for.
The crimson behelit was Godhand specific correct?
I feel each behelit may have its own power - like they are individual objects in the universe.
I theorized that Guts would be approached by the Four Cardinal Kings that Shierke mentioned. He'd receive an offer to become one of them at the cost of leaving his old life behind to fully embrace a spiritual one, carrying out the will of an already-existing spiritual god that opposes the Godhand. He'd dedicate his spiritual life to vanquishing demons to protect humanity, not settle a long-held grudge.
But the idea of Guts' year-long struggle ending in the conception of a new god of love and hope... that sounds perfectly in line with the Idea of Evil's conception.
I like your theory also! It’s an interesting, more spiritual take!
It gave me goosebumps, I would've loved this ending.
Honestly, it makes me so happy to hear that! I’m so glad you enjoyed!
Amazing ending! Hit me in the feels 😢
Ayyy thank you! What was your favourite part?
My initial thought was, that Guts will become like Skull Knight - not dead, not alive either. He might defeat Griffith, but at a great cost.
Sonia might turn, but i wonder how. I don't think the reason will be Casca's memories. Sonia's moral compass isn't working right. She was way too pleased to be around those monsters and apostilles, even promised meat/body? to one, like they are her pets. Even if she sees what her glorious kind has done at the eclipse, she'd take it as ''but he needed to do it for the greater good and to create Falconia''.
Bittersweet end can mean lots of things. bitter (some will die) sweet (but not all).
Casca and Guts may die, but the moonlight boy can stay as their legacy. Or Casca will sacrifice herself for one or both of them. But the family ending up together and safe? It's too good to be true.
I want a third duel between G and G, but that may not happen at this state. Why would Griffith fight the regular human way? Out of sentiment for the old days? If it happens, i have some options in my mind. Griffith will stop last second (due to the boy in him, let's say), but Guts will not, thus will stab Griffith mortally. OR Griffith will stab Guts, who has stopped last min. giving up his revenge.
I like your ideas of a final duel. The idea of one of them stopping, and the other not being able to stop in time - it reflects a lot of what the story is saying.
I still hope for a happier ending for Guts, Casca and Moonlight Boy - they’ve been through enough!
I still think that Zod will join Guts. Probably he will die from Grifith.S hand or soldiers. Think about it. They team up before and from the last chapters, seems zod will leave Grifith. The ending might fit well
Yeah that’s true, I definitely think a Zodd side switch is happening soon.
Enjoyed this vid alot - well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really liked the "hope" part, very cool man. I wouldn't like this ending but it was a great fan fic, for real.
I hope puk is on the last page
I’m glad you enjoyed - the video served it’s purpose!
Still revisiting this video. I constantly wonder how Guts will defeat the God Hand, but this perspective does a great job at wrapping up the story without Guts and a mega power up to defeat the GH.
I just can’t see him being able to defeat literal gods, especially when this isn’t a Shonen-esque power scaling story…
I do LOVE the Theresia bit and feel like that could certianly be a feature of the ending but there are a few holes with the rest of this. For one, the Moonlight Child IS Griffith. He is Griffith reborn into a mortal body, once again capable of the love he holds for Guts and Casca. To "unfuse" the two would not only feel weird, i'm not even sure it could be done at all. Secondly(and arguably more importantly), there are many Behelits and the one Guts carries isn't even a Crimson Behelit, we have color pages from the time Muira was alive to prove that. It's not the same one Griffith used so deleting this one from the timeline does nothing to stop Griffith's ascension in the past. Nor would i think it'd actually do anything for Griffith since he's already used a much more powerful one. If we want to keep with the cycle then Guts might attempt to use one like Gaiseric did(remember the corpses under Wyndham had the mark) but like Guts did with Griffith we'll see Casca attempt to stop him. And to break the cycle she'll succeed. (mind you that last bit is just wild, off-the-cuff speculation)
Other people also doubt the Sonia bit but i'll back you up on this one, i think it'd be a neat bit of narrative mirroring to have Sonia go through what Farnese did and with her powers i feel like what you proposed is plausable.
Honestly, i'm not even sure Guts and Griffith will fight. As Femto, maybe. At least for a bit. But that tear in the morning light leads me to believe Griffith deep down realises he was mistaken about his dream, that he longs to be with them again but just cannot stop. It wouldn't surprise me if him stealing Casca away is some convoluted, subconsious way for him to get Guts back to him again. Knowing that he can contain Casca and that Guts will follow.
This video needs more views! The ending is incredible. I’m so impressed. New subscriber here :)
Aha thank you! Your comment helps push the video out, so you’re doing your part! Thanks for the sub!
I liked it a lot man great job
Thank you! What was your favourite part?
@@TheNerdLounge honestly now that you’ve said that, I NEED Theresa to find guts at the end of the serious after he’s post revenge
@@arbelcohen8280 it makes sense!
I think it would bring the story full circle, especially after rereading the Black Swordsman Arc.
i think u forgot about the skull knight as miura said this story is a thousand-year story and i think they will destroy the godhand all together
Yeah in this theory I definitely overlooked Skully, because it didn’t fit my narrative and didn’t want to shoehorn him in.
But yeah, he’s defo gonna have more interaction with the ending.
Berserk started in 1988. It's been 36 years.
Crazy to think about!
Love this!
Thanks! What was your favourite part?
Thinking about Falconia’s people seeing what Griffith did to be in his position and losing all his power
I’m not sure if an undo button would happen, but interesting video
I get you, again just a fun little fanfiction haha!
Well done!
Thanks!
The behilet belongs to Guts not Griffith so if someone gonna use it it’ll be Guts.
Is it stated in the story that it belongs to Guts? He stole it from the Count.
It's never stated that it's his behelit I think
Just starting reading the manga. Wild to hear the Count's behilet isn't used. They really emphasize it in the panels. @@TheNerdLounge
@@TheNerdLounge watch the fight between Slan and Guts when Guts in such a bad situation the behilets face changes
Berserk will never end at this point. Maybe the real ending was friends we've made along the way
It will end, hopefully in the next 10 years!
I like your version of what the ending could be. Personally, i want to see Casca get the final blow on Griffith or better yet the original band of the hawk coming out of the vortex that is hell to drag him into the vortex would be amazing.
To be fair, I get wanting Casca to get at least a lil bit of revenge! And the Band Of The Hawk idea is amazing - like when Vargas came up to get The Count.
Sonia will def turn on griffith and somewhat redeem herself. There's too much focus on Schierke and Sonia for them not to befriend each other in the end. that whole miniarc in the slave docks where they talk about their struggles gives it away. Most likely outcome is that Sonia gets devastated after seeing griffith's true form and breaks down, that's when schierke comes in with that "owl and the kite" schmeal. Maybe the fantasia state of the world is broken during the whole final battle between guts and griffith, therefore people start going back to living in villages, which leads to schierke going on a journey (like Flora did) of helping those in need after the world has kinda gone back to "normal". That would close up her character (since she's introduced as someone who hates humans) but now has companions (Mule and Sonia) to help her in this humanitarian mission. I can't think of a way that makes all those characters feel more fully developed than that.
This would be too good/happy of an ending and I don't know if Sonia would ever betray Griffith. Still a great video though!
I find it interesting for those people that don’t think the story will have a happy / bittersweet ending. I’ve never had any doubt, it’s kind of the message that I’ve taken from the series. Otherwise, it’s promoting an idea of struggling for nothing - and that doesn’t seem right to me.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Casca will die, guts losses his other eye and moon light boy lives
Interesting take! A lot of people have said about Guts losing his sight. Where has that come from?
@@TheNerdLounge maybe from the panels we've gotten where his eyesight faulters when not wearing the armor. The first time I think it's in bubbles of futility. I don't think guts is dying, losing sight or anything on that level. I think the ending will actually be more sweet than bitter to justify the journey, if it's too bitter or grim like never being able to see again, it wouldnt be that satisfying.
@@BrunoMalmann agree entirely. The journey of berserk somewhat requires a happy ending - otherwise the struggle is just futile
I like a lot of this, but I'd rather guts die, but somewhat live on through the moonlight child. both Guts' and Griffiths paths ended. letting him have a happy ending seems wrong
I wrote another reply similar to this - but I feel like a happy / bittersweet ending is the ONLY way to go. Otherwise, what was Guts fighting for all this time? I don’t think Miura wants to push an idea of Struggling for Nothing. However, like you said, if he lives on, maybe that’s the happy ending….
Why do you think hes not deserving of an happy ending?
@@joehanson2250 It's not that he's not deserving. It just feels wrong for his struggling to just shift into happiness. like he still has the brand...
@@cameronsmart9255 thats the thing, the journey loses purpouse the minute caska or guts die, or if the idea of evil keeps feeding off souls of the marked ones. I mean, the whole band of the hawk is still suffering in hell mostly underserved, because of the mark. So for the ending to not be grim, they'd have to free at least the souls of those marked by the godhand, including guts and caska, otherwise guts' entire journey will never be actually complete, if he dies while still marked he's just going to hell anyway to be tortured for eternity.
What happened to the original?
What do you mean?
And what happens with the brand of sacrifice on Guts and Casca ? It's not a happy ending if they are guaranted to end up in hell and it's not a happy ending if the OG band of the hawk keeps suffering in the Abbys
My idea of the “Idea Of Good” is that it can be implied that the Godhand, Abyss and the Brands kind of fade out of reality - as belief in them is gone.
It would be cool if the fight between guts and Griffith, Griffith lose his left eye by crossbow shot by casca and right arm cut off by guts. And than he admit defeat. And throw himself off on top of the castle. I think that would fit for him much more..
Interesting take - mirroring what happened to Guts. I just don't think him dying is enough of a punishment...
Did berserk set a world record in terms of story development lenght?
Not sure what you mean by this?
@@TheNerdLounge meaning it started 30+ years ago and it's still not concluded
@@matteodarma oh ok I see what you mean. I’m sure there’s other stories that have taken that long - but none that come to mind right now
but why the setup for the world to lose faith in griffith for that to not affect the ending whatso ever? the loss of faith is supposed to have an effect, maybe making griffith able to be hit
also i dont understand why destroying a behelit would mean it never existed, that seems lame
the moonlight child should actually affect the ending, not just show up at the end and heal guts lol
too poetic for me
no no no no to idea of good
i would be so pissed off if this is how it ended, too sappy lol
but i enjoyed the video and i lack an opinion to express
To be fair, I went for a bit more of a “fun” ending and leaned into the happiness of it. My idea was the the loss of faith for Griffith is what pushes him to sacrifice again - but I like the idea of that loss of faith stripping him of his power.
The behelit thing was just a fun lil means to an end - this is one of the only parts of my ending that I’m 100% WONT happen haha!
@@TheNerdLounge I liked the ending you thought out, I thought the idea of hope resurging in the world kind of made me think of "The Dark Ages" during the middle ages. Since the berserk world is modelled after europe during the middle ages that would be a paralell you could draw.
So i like the idea that Guts gets a "power up" that doesn't actually do anything against Griffith but it literally severs Causality. The good ending after all the despair, horror and tragedy is honestly a good focus especially post conviction. I do think that it's a little too good though. I feel like no matter what happens, Guts is going to die but maybe the rest of this can play out in a similar way. I don't think Sonia will betray Griffith but i certainly think she will put those memories into Charlotte who will then resent Griffith and immediately work to undermine him by convening with Guts and co. I think the way everyone finds out could be through some magic from the mages.
Thanks for your comment! Quite a lot of people have disagreed about Sonia - which I find interesting. I just can't see people blindly support Griffith once they know the truth....
@@TheNerdLounge it's probably just because of that one speech she gave all the humans to convince them to march with Griffith's war demons against Ginishka's army.
Yea okay that’ll do it good ending
Ayy thank you!
Cool
Thanks!
i appreciate you doing this and its not all too bad but if you dont mind i have a few criticisms im just gonna leave here.
i think sonia betraying griffith is unlikely. even if she saw casca's memories. characters like zodd are foreshadowed to betray griffith but i doubt sonia would, def not that quick anyway. also the beast becoming a physical entity is just dumb and out of nowhere. i dont mind the idea of it being given physical form but the context for it is just not making sense here. we see griffith looking at the beast in . its just a representation of guts' insanity, not an actual demon. and zodd just deciding to let guts through after guts hesistates to kill him???????? fr? zodd will def become atleast vaguely friendly with guts and betray griffith but not with just another simple duel, zodd needs a reason to leave griffith the same way guts left griffith. zodd already looks like hes questioning griffiths actions when griff takes casca to falconia.
i also think this ending completely ignores the fact that guts is useless currently? he cant aim with his throwing knives, hes nearly fucking blind, brother dropped the dragon slayer while training on elfhelm and the most recent chapter could be implying that hes lost ALL of his eyesight. without the berserker armour he is literally crippled.
the god slayer thing is dumb and a bit OP. i like the idea of guts shattering causality, but i still think you should at least incorporate Skull knights betchi sword into it, maybe that stuff can be layered on the dragon slayer, good chekovs gun situation since its already established in the story. if it doesnt work on griffith it can at least work on other apostles or god hand members. i think cascas healing is far too rushed, especially in such a traumatic environment with her abuser right there. if casca was right there surrounded by all of that triggering stuff she would have a complete mental breakdown. grifffiths humanity being his downfall is really good tho, since most of the apostles guts defeats (mainly during black swordsman but also lost children) are killed by guts taking advantage of their remaining humanity like the slug counts daughter being held hostage.
i like the idea of the cycle being that every 5 eclipses they just sacrifice a city / kingdom full of people. its cool and it provides an explanation as to what we saw through the berserker memories, plus i think that was already kinda implied considering the city we saw being cooked by tentacles during gaiserics memories.
i also think that griffith will betray the godhand rather than the other way around. in the same way griffith made his way out of the den of snakes in midland all trying to kill him, he will manipulate his way through the godhand so that if they do try and betray him and shatter his dream, he will be prepared. its the perfect chekovs gun for this situation. his human impulses being his weakness is a great idea, parallels his torture being a result of his night with the princess. that being said, i think void and SK paralleling griffith and guts is also something to be said. void could have plans within plans, seeing himself in griffith and preparing for any potential betrayel from him, not to mention the fact that the old godhand is gone for some reason, which could have been voids doing.
speaking of skull knight, hes definetly not done cooking up plans to take down the godhand. the fact that skull knight is at least a thousand years old means that 1. griffiths "distorted space" is something SK isnt familiar with. and 2. that means the betchi sword would most likely work on other godhand members. we also see void deflect SKs sword with a portal rather than it just phasing through, and that wasnt even the sword of acctuation, so i definetly think SK could kill a godhand member with the acctuation-behelit juice.
the moonlight child wont have such an easy answer. i 100% percent believe guts would sacrifice it to kill griffith but it def wont be as simple as simply splitting them both. best case scenario they work it out like divorced parents, griffith gets his body back on weekends and casca and guts get their kid during the weekdays, but for some reason i doubt itll be that simple. also im sorry but the "idea of good" is corny and doesnt fit berserk at all. there is no paradise for you to escape to. it also ignores the fact that berserks world *is* currently in a stage of hope despite the fantasia apocalypse. people are hopeful for the future, griffith is literally a saviour and that is a result of the people of the world desiring and manifesting an era of hope through the collective consciousness. i dont think guts will die but i dont think hes gonna have a happy ending and change the world for the better either. berserk will always be gray. not happy but not hopeless either.
this ending also completely ignores the perfect oppertunity to use the "rickert slap" checov gun. rickert is the only character to physically lay a hand on griffith after hes reborn from the conviction arc ceremony. there is at least some plan to physically harm griffith foreshadowed into the story and we know that because of the slap. i think berserks references to spirituality could mean its to do with intention, as in anyone intending harm on griffith is physically unable to, but rickerts slap was more of a shameful disrespectful slap rather than intending to inflict pain. the only other moment anyone even manages to get a hair off griffith is when guts swings his dragon slayer at him in chapter 366, when he LITERALLY only gets a single strand of griffiths hair from him.
i think the god hand could be trying to manifest the idea of evil into the real world, kinda similar to the mind flayer from stranger things. weve seen slan manifest herself a physical body using troll entrails before, and we saw one of the other godhand members do something similar with rats, so the idea of evil manifesting itself into reality maybe through the world spiral tree with human flesh or maybe even the sacrificed bodies of the previous empire isnt too farfetched, could be something similar enough to gaiserics memories, like theyre feeding the people of falconia / previously gaiserics empire straight to the idea of evil. it would raise the stakes as now there is a giant lovecraftian boss battle they have to deal with, like the AOT ending lol (not that i like the aot ending).
edit: one more thing. considering guts is going blind, lost his ability to taste, etc. i think his fate is a lot like griffiths vision of being taken care of by casca as a cripple after his torture. guts will never be able to wield a sword again after this war, not unless he gets a fresh body and that is not happening if were being real
Bro said "A Few Criticisms" then wrote an essay :D Thank you for the effort you put into this comment!
Like I said at the start, this video was just for fun - and if I'd given events a lot more thought they probably would have coincided more fluently. A few of the thing you mentioned were definitely my "means to an end" - such as the Sonia betrayal, the Godslayerand Guts' current state.
The "Humanity" thing you mentioned is something I NEEDED to include - especially after my reread of Black Swordsman. It's a running theme that the Apostles maintain humanity - and so does Griffith (through his actions towards Guts and Cas). So this being his downfall seemed right.
Again, thank you for your effort into this comment - it was a really interesting read - especially your own personal theories!
I’ve often thought berserk would end with griffith being de-godhanded it’s pretty much the only way
Yeah I agree. Killing him isn't punishment enough for me. He fears losing his leadership and being seen as weak - so reverting to his pre-Femto state seems perfect to me!
Too cliche... Berserk is much more deeper
Yeah it is, which is why I tried to interlink some of the main themes - but I get this ending is cheesy haha
yall are actual bully's for wanting a sad ending for guts aint gon lie
i love guts but there is literally 0 chance berserk is getting a 100% happy ending. there is no paradise for you to escape to.
Bro tell me about it. My boy deserves at least some peace!
Apart from Miura literally saying that's how he hopes it will end...
Mans forgot this isn’t a shonen… a happy ending would literally not match the story that berserk is
tell me you didn't understand Berserk without telling me you didn't understand Berserk. Actually fuck that he explained why Berserk shouldn't have a grim tragic ending along with showing a interview from the author saying that he doesn't think a evil sad ending would match the story. No forget that. the world is evil and big guy swings even bigger sword. that's all Berserk is and you would be right but only for the Black Swordsmen arc and not even that fully. Should all of Guts' perservierence be rewarded with failure just to stick it to everyone?
NPC take
@@revengance4149 "there is no paradise for you to escape to". theres a reason 364 was the cannon last chapter to so many fans. berserk will not have a bleak ending but it will not have a 100% optimistic ending. guts perservierence will be rewarded but god, it will not be as easy as "kill le bad guy with enchanted sword". guts is crippled, he is going blind, there is no chance he uses the berserker armour in this war and doesnt become a literal bean LMFAO. there is no chance the moonlight boy and griffith simply just split into 2 different beings. this is not a shonen
@@phantom2615 no this isn't shounen, this is fanfic, good fanfic imo, but just fanfic. I'd assume it would be more bittersweet as well as you said, most likely some thing that happened here will actually come about this way while other plotpoint won't be solved that easily. That said "Berserk is dark and thus cannot have a happy ending" is still one of the most braindead takes I ever heard. The problem with this ending are that it seems unrealistic and convienient (as to be expected from a fanfic of such a complex and delecate story) but not that it's to happy. Berserk can end with all the characters on a picknick so long as it feels earned. Im exgagerating but you get the point. also something being a shounen does not mean it's written worse than any given dark fantasy
Exactly. Whilst this video is a 100% optimistic ending - I don't think that's the actual way it will go. BUT there is going to be some happiness in the ending - otherwise the story is literally "Big man swing big sword"....
Am i weird for not wanting guts with casca in the end, idk man
Guts x casca had aalways been somewhat vague for me
I’m not gonna lie, yeah that’s weird. Their relationship has its struggles - but they truly love one another, it’s basically the point of the whole story.