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  • @FrNMGuy
    @FrNMGuy 2 роки тому +8

    Almost an hour long video? YES! My baby boy was cheering while you were brazing. Hopefully, if he wants to go into the trades, he will continue to have that enjoyment. Good work, Chris!

    • @craigmills6275
      @craigmills6275 2 роки тому +1

      Hopefully if he goes into the trades his first boss isn’t a scam artist or straight a hole.

  • @lezlienewlands1337
    @lezlienewlands1337 2 роки тому +7

    Very much a "Compressors don't just die, they're murdered" situation imo.
    One bit of sand or a bad connection in the contactor and suddenly the compressor isn't getting the power it wants and it's not going to be happy.
    Contactor changeout as a preventative measure is just doing right by your customers. 👍
    Watching from Australia, this stuff's fascinating. Made it to the end 😃.

    • @thesoniczone
      @thesoniczone 2 роки тому

      Sand in contacts is a real problem. I have had this problem on light switches before, due to renovations happening at the same time the switches were being installed. Lesson learnt.

  • @anthonybeliveau3158
    @anthonybeliveau3158 Рік тому +4

    What's up , new hvac tech here ( 2 years ) , love your videos man !!! I'm gonna watch em' all for sure , keep going

  • @gsperanza07
    @gsperanza07 10 місяців тому +4

    Anyone who tells you Chris , that changing contactors is an over waste , THERE DEFINITELY GOT NO IDEA AND HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS TRADE !!!!!! I’ve seen the first hand experience of low voltage and no low voltage issues, especially miss diagnostic test , over looking. ‘ pitted ‘. Burn’t contactor points , working normally they will 100% wear out and I’ve personally changed soooo many , low voltage and uneven load and phase will definitely cause. ‘ Brown - out ‘ burnt outs to occur , and house keeping has saved my clients and myself to call outs a good 40% on cooling tower fan units and especially compressor prematurely failing .
    It’s the basic rookie test of finding back to basics of diagnosing and testing ,mostly over looked and like your self , finding why, because , it’s the most important instead of just r & r , your statement is beyond true and I’m sure many , many , many , repeat repairs by air - con techs have gone to the same repair , more than once or replaced a new compressor to only return weeks or days later with another fault that was over looked !!!
    Well done and once again thanks for posting Chris, safe travels 😊 and Godbless 😊
    , and I’ve watched the video , from start to end !!!

  • @stradcar1
    @stradcar1 2 роки тому +2

    Wow i said I would not touch a/c s but I got a call one day from a place that uses 13 of these 3 compressor types units. The hvac guy says power problem. Turns out the condenser fan relay burnt. I fix it but this the only person that explains this stuff so well. A million tanx bro

  • @gmcxm211
    @gmcxm211 Рік тому +2

    This is insane, the condition this equipment or people operate in. I live in Wyoming, We "might" have temps in the 90's 3 weeks out of the year. AC might run 3 months or 4 months out of the year. But our furnaces run 9 months out of the year. Really like you channel. Ted Cook "anti DIY HVAC gave you a shout out. You're really knowledgeable of your trade. Great workmanship and ethics. Until watching your channel, didn't realize how many of us take the contacts for granted.

  • @Goldstacker1972-kp2bh
    @Goldstacker1972-kp2bh 7 місяців тому +5

    Always change your contactor on 3 phase unit when you change the compressor.

  • @MagnumOpusSRT
    @MagnumOpusSRT 18 днів тому +1

    Always enjoy your videos. You have the heart of a teacher.
    What about a clear box to enclose the contactor to extend the life in sandy conditions?

  • @ianbradford4321
    @ianbradford4321 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been watching for about a year and a half. My friend/coworker that I respect and go to for guidance recommended you. I have recommended the videos to multiple co workers as well. I have learned a great deal, I had 20ish years in residential before coming to commercial.

  • @robertogomez2297
    @robertogomez2297 2 роки тому +1

    Just wanted to say you are a troubleshooting Master! I have learned so much from your videos and I very much enjoy watching through everything, always learn something new! I’m 3 years in to the hvac trade and barely started commercial a year ago and your videos have helped me so much with troubleshooting commercial equipment, thank you sir.

  • @ВладимирИвашечкин-п4е

    It is my pleasure to watch a professional work.

  • @LMSILVIA
    @LMSILVIA 2 роки тому +2

    I rebuild semi hermetic compressors for a living. Its clear when you turn the rotor on the table that shine on one side indicates the rotor was rubbing against the stator. That will cause a burn out eventually.

  • @DJEZNICK
    @DJEZNICK 2 роки тому +5

    The closing words are so important to follow in this trade, be a technician, not a parts changer, figure out why it failed. 👏

  • @kylemcelya5589
    @kylemcelya5589 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for showing the testing to ground immediately. I never learned that until this video. 2 yrs into the trade and I learned more with your videos and other technicians videos. Please continue I'm now following you like a hawk!

  • @hrvstmn31
    @hrvstmn31 2 роки тому +2

    Really digging the 80's montage music, it's like I'm learning how to type in 6th grade off a laserdisc all over again.

  • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
    @jasonjohnsonHVAC 2 роки тому +3

    This job like many jobs is about CYA ( cover your a** ). You perform "big picture diagnosis" to cover the customer, to cover yourself and your company. You provide solutions to all problems found and let the customer choose what they want to do....as Chris stated. It the best, professional and proper way to be a quality tech. The money isn't ours to spend. You handled that in every aspect like a true pro Chris......job well done......I'd hire you 😁😆😄

  • @carolriley9392
    @carolriley9392 2 місяці тому +1

    I really can't wait to keep sharing your channel! Been a sub for a while, and i must say you are simply the best! Your ability to explain every step you do plus your accountability to be honest, sets you apart from every other tech that is in the same trade. Thanks so much!

  • @bartfoster1311
    @bartfoster1311 2 роки тому +9

    That 5 ton should have a cover plate. They probably took it off for a better hand grip during install and never put it back in. We almost always install heat strips but I don't imagine you need them in so cal!

    • @garousata4261
      @garousata4261 2 роки тому

      Why do you need heat strips in the frist place? That thing is an heat pump right? ( Or at least it should be....

    • @bartfoster1311
      @bartfoster1311 2 роки тому +1

      @@garousata4261 it's for emergency heat and they are usually set to kick on when the temp is more than 3 degrees below what heat is set to. In the south it is only used when it gets really cold or if the condensing unit stops working.

  • @chieft3357
    @chieft3357 4 місяці тому +1

    I miss some of your videos, so I'm playing catch up.
    I see the outside temp you work in and I feel your PAIN. I was a jet engine tech for the j-79 which was on the older C-130'S.
    There are many times in Arkansas summer when the temp on a wing can reach 105 to 120 deg. Believe it or not we had to wear coveralls and special gloves just to handle a prop or engine during a change and that can take between 6 and 8 hrs.
    Stay safe and don't go to long in the heat, it will bite you hard.

  • @JoseNoriega-n5z
    @JoseNoriega-n5z Рік тому +1

    I absolutely appreciate the time you take to be thorough on your jobs. I started watching your channel about 2yrs ago already- and recently I was able to land a position with a Commercial HVACR business- but I've learned so much just by watching your trouble shooting methods but also, I'm beginning to understand the mentality of "take the extra 15mins to check on something or to do a task", which prevents so many issues down the road. I'm from Central Texas and the work I come to find is simply laziness. Love the videos, you're thinking and attitude, stay cool and be safe!

  • @rhinohino
    @rhinohino 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not an HVACR tech. But I'm an electro mechanical tech and like the electrical troubleshooting you do well. Keep up the great work!

  • @danpresson
    @danpresson Рік тому +2

    I watch from beginning to end its great when you take them apart you have all kinds of awards

  • @northparallel6913
    @northparallel6913 Рік тому +3

    Recommend contactors to be installed inside closures to protect from sand damage.
    You can still service them

  • @fixerguy
    @fixerguy 11 днів тому +1

    Chris, in this day of corporate cost cutting by employers, talking about total man hours on jobs like this would be really useful to techs old and new.
    Other than that I love your videos and appreciate you sharing your knowledge, especially with the failure analysis stuff, which is my first love from my Navy ET days. That root cause stuff and the curiosity behind it truly is what makes great techs. 🎉 Thank you!

  • @stefanpariyski3709
    @stefanpariyski3709 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate the brazing montages and the effort put into it with the music and everything, really love watching them!

  • @ivancano5831
    @ivancano5831 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe that compressor fail due to refrigerant in liquid state flushed the oil .a mechanical issue ending in an electrical failure.part of the problem loose blower motor belt you corrected the problem. Congratulations I enjoyed your videos. Thanks again

  • @KurtM558
    @KurtM558 2 роки тому +1

    I had a great time taking apart our 34 hp recip low stage compressor after we oil slugged it. It was a great learning experience.

  • @ericmichaud3331
    @ericmichaud3331 2 роки тому +2

    You do amazing videos!! I always look forward to watching them. Learned a bunch of content from you. Watched the entire video from the beginning!! Be safe

  • @digitalcircuit
    @digitalcircuit 2 роки тому +1

    Made it to the end! I didn't even realize it was 58 minutes until halfway through - quite the journey.
    I appreciate your thoroughness and eye for preventative maintenance - contactors included. Thinking about future potential trouble helps in other fields, too - including software engineering, what I'm pursuing.

  • @duffman1010
    @duffman1010 2 роки тому +3

    Loved the 80's/90's Sitcom music while Brazing LOL

  • @r3tr0nic
    @r3tr0nic Рік тому +1

    Great teardown and analysis of the compressor failure. I do agree, I believe the blowing sand seems the root cause of the contactor failure and thus, compressor failure.
    My thoughts:
    Contactor contacts are accessible to the enviromentals, so sand contaminated them. Because the 3rd stage is used less then the 2nd and 1st stage, the contacts in the 3rd stage contactor remain open overall longer, and had more time to have sand/dirt build up. One or more phases may have become open, or a resistance developed in the contacts of the contactor and resulted in a low voltage condition. Eventually the overload in the compressor will have cut. Once the overload reset, and stage 3 call initiates, the process repeated with each time degrading the overload and windings. Eventually the overload may have failed stuck on or shorted, causing the compressor winding to heat up until the winding varnish failed and a short to ground developed and tripped the breaker. Perhaps the winding varnish failed first.
    Thats my educated guess. The contactor is def the Achilles heel. Makes me ponder how great it would be to have something monitoring the 3 phase power to the compressor itself, in addition to the normal protections. Such microprocessor powered monitoring could disable the stage much faster, throw an error code and alert for service call. Perhaps such already exists (I never messed with large systems like that).
    Your maint PM plan on regularly changing the contactors is a great idea. That is much less expensive then a catastrophic failure and extended unexpected down time vs a lesser planned down time.

  • @jimfiedlerRR-546
    @jimfiedlerRR-546 2 роки тому +1

    Keep up the good work I think you got the best hvac channel on UA-cam. You do a great job explaining your thought, & execution process on things. I am a residential/ commercial tech that's disabled with multiple sclerosis. I really loved the trade, & videos like yours still makes me feel apart of the trade still.

  • @gregmercil3968
    @gregmercil3968 2 роки тому +1

    I work and live in the high desert, and that sand is no joke. A couple months ago I did a spring PM on a residential AC. I removed a Home Depot bucket’s worth of sand out of the condensing unit and then some. I make a point of getting all the dirt and sand out of condensing units before hosing down the coil, otherwise it will turn into a huge muddy mess and becomes a time consuming headache. I learned this the hard way last summer. I’ve also been making a point lately to take apart fan motors that I’ve replaced to see what went wrong in them when I have the time for it, for a learning experience and out of shear curiosity. I had one blower motor that I could hear arcing in the attic while I was at the Tstat, just before it tripped the breaker. Took that one apart, it appeared that the bearings failed and caused the rotor to make contact with the stator. The windings were a blackened charred mess as well.

  • @pineychristian
    @pineychristian 2 роки тому +2

    Chris,
    Awesome video and diagnosis. I like how your approach is very carefully planned and cautious. I have a story on a 40ton McQuay RTU. The unit had two circuits with 4 stages of cooling. 1st stage compressor had one blown fuse feeding compressor contactor. Checked all basics before checking compressor. Compressor checked out ( electrically) using Copeland mobile app , ohms were good in spec and no shorts to ground. Very handy app. So at this point I decided nothing left to do but to put fuse in and check under power. WELL.... the compressor had a mechanical problem and broke. Blew compressor terminal plug out like it was hit with a shotgun buckshot with a massive arch of quick flash fire. It immediately went out. Blew the refrigerant charge out. Thank God I was like 8ft back away from unit when it came on. I immediately killed the disconnect and went off the roof to change my underwear..... scary stuff.
    I found out later the TXV was completely plugged and bad. It was banging off high pressure control and would reset later to continue to do it again.
    Always use caution and be careful cause usually there is a reason something broke.....

  • @clake8964
    @clake8964 Рік тому +2

    Great video, very entertaining! This case specifically makes me wonder why the manufacturers of these AC units don't put a dustproof, well insulated box for the contactors to be in. The failure rate could go down drastically, as well as repair costs (especially in this case). What I mean is that it could lower the rate of catastrophical failure, like this one where it possibly single-phased the compressor, destroying it, not regular failure, like for example a compressor wearing out over time naturally. This applies to defrost clocks as well. Delicate parts are exposed to the outside influences when they can be very simply protected from them.
    Just a thought, feel free to correct me if there is a reason it's not done this way, maybe it's not up to code or something, idk. :D
    Have a wonderful day everyone!

  • @novaorbitdragon
    @novaorbitdragon Рік тому +6

    "Pocket sand!"
    - Dale Gribble

  • @KoScosss
    @KoScosss 2 роки тому +1

    1h video? What a treat. Thanks, yum-yum.

  • @Fluxy333
    @Fluxy333 2 роки тому +1

    I’m going to tech school next year and I chose hvac as one of my trades and I honestly am so excited to learn about this stuff, your videos teach me a lot!

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому

      Awesome bud, I’m going live on UA-cam this evening 7/25/22 @ 5:PM (pacific) to answer questions from the live chat, emails and UA-cam comments, come over and check it out…or not ua-cam.com/video/5HS0Ag5fTes/v-deo.html

  • @peterhodgkins6985
    @peterhodgkins6985 2 роки тому +6

    Seems to me that changing contactors to sealed EP type (e.g. Class I Div 1/2) would be more cost effective than routine replacements. Just a thought! Another great video, Chris!

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому

      I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 7/25/22 @ 5:PM (pacific) on UA-cam come over and check it out… or not ua-cam.com/video/5HS0Ag5fTes/v-deo.html

    • @thesoniczone
      @thesoniczone 2 роки тому

      Contactors are a fraction of the cost of a new compressor. Hence I am with Chris on this one. I will do the same if I was in this position, and indeed when I used to design stuff like this I recommended to the installers that they do the same, to avoid myself having been called out to answer for product failure and it has saved me from at least two lawsuits.

  • @SpazyFunk
    @SpazyFunk 2 роки тому +3

    Instead of replacing all the contactors every PM you can sell them
    ICM450 phase monitors. This will prevent phase imbalance and low voltage problems. it will save the compressors.

    • @gabiold
      @gabiold 2 роки тому

      I just diagnosed a compressor short in a household portable dehumidifier. They used in in an industrial setting with fine dust and never cleaned the stuff out, the whole thing was full. So it was an overheating issue. The thermal switch probably saved it a hundred times already, but it eventually welded shut and failed to protect the last time. Probably.
      All I want to say is, there is all that electronics control, why no self-diagnostic for overheat too? When there are overheat events, possibly with increasing frequency, then after the n-th one, shut the system dowm with an error code as an early warning.
      There is no use of that auto-resetting thermal switch, if no one is getting notified that it is happening.
      Just as an example that similar thing already exists: in safety-critical industrial systems, a lot of stuff, for example contactors, sensors, etc are duplicated, in case if one fails the other will still do the job. BUT! If there would be no notfication about it, then the system would become as unsafe as with just one contactor or sensor or anything. For this exact reason, the system (safety relays) monitor everything that is duplicated, and when the paired things does not match state, it always disables the system (into a known good, safe state) and/or notify staff about the degraded safety, depending on how critical is to keep operating.

  • @MinecraftAedda
    @MinecraftAedda 2 роки тому +1

    Made it to the end, love listening to your job debriefings.

  • @eddevoe2519
    @eddevoe2519 Рік тому +6

    I always change contactors with a compressor.

  • @Kevin19700
    @Kevin19700 2 місяці тому +1

    A wealth of information here. Thanks!

  • @Anver_Silyaev
    @Anver_Silyaev 2 роки тому +3

    Probably 3rd stage contactor damaged because of it works less and contacts are open most part of time, sand settles between contacts. Meanwhile 1st & 2nd stage contacts are closed and not so damaged. IMHO.
    Cool work and investigation 🔎!

  • @chaosminecraft3399
    @chaosminecraft3399 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, it's awesome the work you do, I'm really happy to hear that the restaurant is getting properly cooled.

  • @mtucker3401
    @mtucker3401 2 роки тому

    100% agree with not charging anymore on the split. You probably have a TXV that’s over feeding right now because it’s so hot. And don’t get me started on those wires sticking out the top. I’ve seen way too many dry rot and short. I always wrap my exposed wires in electrical tape.
    Trevor Matthews is an awesome asset! Great guy and great knowledge.
    Thank you, sir, for your dedication to the channel and and the industry!!

  • @dragonrider4253
    @dragonrider4253 2 роки тому

    I love your big picture thing. Get in there and LOOK for problems or potential problems and bring it up to the customer. A nearly hour long video and I watched it all. I love your work.

  • @albertoldschool6950
    @albertoldschool6950 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe Try sealing contactor so sand can't get in. Do Quality work tighten wires to spec. reduce contact resistance and overheating. Replacing cover and panels to prevent Sun UV deterioration and sand infiltration. These thing may help. All the best to you. Thanks for the video.

  • @davidmorton5137
    @davidmorton5137 2 роки тому

    thank you for your videos. one of the reasons i watch them (aside from pure learning, which there is alot of) is at the end you sometimes you dismantle the components, in this case a compressor and contactor. you then explain how they work, and give excellent insight as to why they failed. i appreciate all you do to help educate myself and all the other folks who pursue this never ending industry of woes.

  • @aaronharrison7729
    @aaronharrison7729 2 роки тому +2

    I agree with you.
    Dirty micro channel and 410A= multiple head preassure trips could have caused contactor to stick and phase out compressor.

  • @lastin1out1
    @lastin1out1 Рік тому +2

    Saw belt deflection being tested. Wanted to share: the other day, someone taught me a formula for belt tension. 1/64 per inch on belt for deflection. So an example: an ax-64 belt should have 1 inch of deflection. An ax-32 belt should have 1/2" deflection... And so on. Hope it helps someone...

  • @merlynsamazz1812
    @merlynsamazz1812 2 роки тому +2

    Hi here in the UK we have three phase and neutral plus where possible we always use solid-state contactors with DC voltage

  • @codywiggins9387
    @codywiggins9387 2 роки тому +1

    There was a blank plate in that location at once. Only supposed to remove it if you're installing an electric heat strip though. Great video as always!

  • @matiasmena7518
    @matiasmena7518 Рік тому +1

    Excelente contenido, mi rubro es la refrigeración y aire acondicionado domésticos en Argentina desde hace unos 9 años, y en mi opinión sobran los motivos para reemplazar contactores mucho más en éstas condiciones, sin dar demasiadas explicaciones a quien diga que no es necesario, es porque evita mayores reparaciones y costos asociados, podrías también hacer un video para orientarnos sobre cómo y dónde cortar compresores sería genial ver eso, excelente tu trabajo y realización del contenido!

  • @pacificairsystems9683
    @pacificairsystems9683 2 роки тому +2

    You’re the most awesomeness HVAC guy in America

  • @adventurefishingscotland3918
    @adventurefishingscotland3918 2 роки тому +2

    Yet another great video. Been busy over in the uk aparently our ac units cant handle a bit heat

  • @Jilocasindragon
    @Jilocasindragon 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making all those videos, the autopsy and and the discussion part. I only recently learned that the initial intent was to release those videos internally for your employees, so again, thanks for letting all of us take part in what you're doing :D Wish I had your beard!

  • @inductoservice9866
    @inductoservice9866 2 роки тому +2

    I think your hypothesis is correct. I know what sand does to your relays and contactors. Sand is a very good isolator. So it is very easy to get one phase missing situation which burns your motor. That is why motor protection circuit breakers are recommended.

  • @benjaminbortz5362
    @benjaminbortz5362 2 роки тому +1

    Always love your vids always keep
    Me sharp and on game whenever im working or air conditioning I’ve done learned a lot from your vids made me definitely a better at all this stuff keeps me motivated and just want to show appreciation for your vids because i do
    Understand that it takes time for you do so I understand everything you say in your vids super educated and clearly knowledgeable about refrigeration and air conditioning and some other interesting things I’ve seen yah done there but yeah you show me a-lot in just a video it’s amazing to me always waiting for the next one can’t wait to Start my own videos but yeah much respect and love man

  • @rival_son
    @rival_son 2 роки тому +2

    Just so you know, some (usually older) breaker panels don't have isolation for the connection points where the wires will connect to the panel for the individual, breakers so it can be risky to work inside the panel (ie replacing the wires) as you can be very close to live busbars or connections. That's maybe why they needed to shut the whole building (panel) down.

    • @rcctech1356
      @rcctech1356 2 роки тому

      Or the piece of crap Zinsco breakers and panels...still in use out there.

  • @wickedxe
    @wickedxe 2 роки тому +2

    The armature looks like it was contacting the steel laminations of the field windings; my guess is that the lower motor bearing failed and the drag caused by the bearing failure caused the motor to be incinerated

  • @thesoniczone
    @thesoniczone 2 роки тому +3

    On changing contactors:
    The same situation has presented itself THOUSANDS of times during my career in electronics.
    Relays, contactors, and the switches. They fail, and cause issues LIKE THIS!
    HVAC, gate automation, shutter door automation, you name it I've seen it all.
    It is a cheap component that can be replaced and prevent issues happening later.

    • @Pystro
      @Pystro 2 роки тому

      Could you double up contactors? I.e. give the electricity a redundant second path in case sand gets into one of that pair of contactors and blocks it from making a proper connection?

    • @thesoniczone
      @thesoniczone 2 роки тому

      @@Pystro No two contactors are the same, their speed to make/break will be different across the same batch, therefore one set will burn contacts and the other set will be hardly used and vice-versa. We tried this approach long ago in the early 2000s with gate automation- the solution was full VFD / H-bridge

    • @Pystro
      @Pystro 2 роки тому

      @@thesoniczone Well, in my proposed use case the intent is to avoid single phasing (or other consequences of 1 of the 3 contacts staying open), which I would guess would then only happen for half a second at a time or so which won't burn out a compressor. (No idea if that's true, though. I'm not an electrician.)
      The inspiration was that the contactors are dirt cheap compared to the equipment they are controlling, so you can avoid using more of them (both in terms of frequent replacing and in terms of requiring 2 of them to fail simultaneously before that damage can propagate to other components).
      Secondly, if there's a grain of sand on a contact face, the current could go through the other contactor (while both contacts are "closed"), and thus avoiding arcs of electricity persisting around that grain long enough that it gets welded into the contact face - unless the contact face with the sand grain is the slower one to open, but even then you'd only get a transient arc.
      But I agree. In these conditions some silicon-based solution would be preferable.

    • @thesoniczone
      @thesoniczone 2 роки тому

      @@Pystro I was an engineer for 14 years but I traded it for a career in software dev. I was working at one body shop (software development house) around 2016 and the A/C failed, yet it had electronics to detect single phasing, and it displayed the error code which we looked up before calling a service technician. We indeed did single phase and because of a wire that burnt off (YELLOW PHASE). So it is possible to detect these conditions electronically- I don't understand why they don't do this though on these commercial units.

  • @renetrevino9829
    @renetrevino9829 2 роки тому

    Hey bud thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Your approach to trouble shooting the best I’ve ever seen and very educational

  • @johnbell6956
    @johnbell6956 2 роки тому

    I like your videos. Very professional.
    Worked on identical unit last week. 2nd stage compressor shorted internally. Only difference was it blew out the L2 pin and the entire refrigerant and oil charge. Was a serious mess.

  • @slamdvw
    @slamdvw 2 роки тому +5

    I wonder if a phase monitor could help those compressors live longer? Single phase - shuts down and logs the fault.

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому

      I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 7/25/22 @ 5:PM (pacific) on UA-cam come over and check it out… or not ua-cam.com/video/5HS0Ag5fTes/v-deo.html

  • @legionofanon
    @legionofanon 2 роки тому

    Good tip on keeping your grinder to shallow cuts, one to keep debris out, but also two it can preserve the life of a cutting wheel. In my experience plunging the wheel wears it out so much faster, especially since little twists can wear out the faces of the disk making them just disintegrate

  • @cliffordsilveria4928
    @cliffordsilveria4928 2 роки тому

    Thank you
    Nice job explaining things and showing the inside of the compressor really helps.

  • @danielelise7348
    @danielelise7348 Рік тому +2

    You're showing your age with these daggy 80's soundtracks Chris.
    😆😆🔥❄️

  • @tdev04
    @tdev04 2 роки тому +2

    I’m surprised you don’t have a molecular transformator for 410a recovery in that heat! I just got one to recover about 30lbs of 410a for a compressor change. It was high 90s in the Michigan summer and that thing made a HUGE difference in recovery time. Just dropped it in a bucket of ice water and let that machine suck. Never got over 300psi in the tank.

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому +1

      I will discuss this on my livestream this evening on UA-cam 8/1/22 @ 3:PM (pacific) come over and check it out ua-cam.com/video/HSIOTgOXxV0/v-deo.html

  • @jrmcferren
    @jrmcferren 2 роки тому +1

    I see quite a few comments indicating potential failure points on this compressor, I do want to add a few other electrical things that may have led to this. That contactor looks like it took a lot of heat on all three phases. Now it was already mentioned that the third stage is going to cut in and out far more than the others when it is operating, but that also started to make me think. You could have had single phasing, but you could have just had a plain case of low voltage. The overload looks like it also took a lot of heat due to the bluing I see. Now that could mean excess current flowing. A few electrical conditions that will cause excess current over a longer period of time would be single phasing, under-voltage, and even mechanical overload which was also mentioned in another comment regarding the rotor rubbing the stator. I think all of these factors (Single phasing included or not) lead to the burn out. The third stage activates when there is a heavy load during high heat, this is when the power grid is at high load meaning the potential of lower line voltages. Even if the voltage was in specification, you have the stator and rotor in contact with each other, this means slightly more time at locked rotor current and you could...at least in theory have failure to start and the overload cutting in and out a bit. If there were cases of single phasing this would be greatly amplified.

  • @Loftis86
    @Loftis86 2 роки тому +1

    This music reminds me of the Saved by the Bell , Full House and Family Matters days haha. Love it

  • @brendonnel6631
    @brendonnel6631 2 роки тому +1

    No Idea how I ended up here but DAMN it was interesting, this dude knows his craft.

  • @sosayweall1952
    @sosayweall1952 2 роки тому +1

    EET here! Could have been a rub in the insulation of the magnet wire, happens from time to time when manufacturing motors and transformers. This kind of issue could be dormant for years, then one day the winding get shorted to another one and the motor gets oversaturated and overheats.

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils 2 роки тому +1

    I'd consider to use a big lathe (works for round compressors, not oval) or a milling machine to cut the compressor open. But you use what you have at hand.

  • @keithfarnham8720
    @keithfarnham8720 Місяць тому +1

    Hey Chris , you mention that you look for a voltage drop across a contactor to determine the condition of the points. Voltage is nothing but the pressure of current flow and looking for a voltage drop is arbitrary and meaningless. I prefer to use a bench meter and measure milliamp loss by creating a parallel current flow through the meter. If your contacts are true and clean the meter will measure no amperage , if your contacts are faulty or failed the meter will measure amperage.

  • @customcreations-rickkramer5357
    @customcreations-rickkramer5357 2 роки тому

    I love the music around the 30 min mark. Was half expecting the camera to turn and show John & Ponch riding up the road, turning on lights and sirens 🚨 and then nailing the throttle!!

  • @lawrencecavens5760
    @lawrencecavens5760 3 місяці тому +1

    being that this video is 2 to 3 years old - you have to remember that even though you are not reading a voltage drop at that time - it will happen when you least expect it and contactors when they start to arc - over time get worse and worse and amperage gets higher and higher trying to do the work - add the heat load from the sun and - Meltdown - Its like you said sand contamination probably added to the scenario - Can a protective covering be installed to keep the sand out or would that add to the heat stress to the contactors ?? Just a thought...

  • @ickipoo
    @ickipoo 2 роки тому +4

    Jeez, that burned wiring on the first unit is bad. They're very lucky they still have a business and not just an insurance claim.

  • @kylemcelya5589
    @kylemcelya5589 2 роки тому +1

    Also could you go into more detail on how to use setup, remove a micron gauge. I flooded mine with refrigerant and am saving for a new one

  • @GigglyWolf90
    @GigglyWolf90 2 роки тому

    As much as I watch these videos, the more I admire who do this job. Stuff is way more complicated than I ever could have imagined

  • @aeclearn
    @aeclearn 2 роки тому

    This is a great video! I am an HVAC Engineer and your videos are def helpful for the design too. Keep up the good work💪🏻

  • @skutahuniai4830
    @skutahuniai4830 2 роки тому +13

    Not sure of California code but in my area, an LB is not allowed to be used as a junction box. Proper method would have been to pull the conductors from the panel(along with a ground) and then use liquid flex from the LB to the disconnect. Bad electrical work IMO.

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 2 роки тому

      I doubt this even stays under the box fill for the LB with that gauge of wiring.

    • @josephtramutola592
      @josephtramutola592 2 роки тому

      Took the words right out of my mouth

  • @willspeed4585
    @willspeed4585 2 роки тому +2

    The saxophone music. Perfect. 🤣

  • @zabalogne1
    @zabalogne1 2 роки тому +1

    The contactors looked like OEM, that is usually overlooked, and or ignored by most techs who come to do a hurry-up maintenance. Voltage Spikes in a building are real, could it be when the other unit had its problem with the wiring that this occurred ? As for the (2) Two condensing units blowing towards it !
    most definitely an issue. Heat of compression cannot freely escape. Solution here is a deflector shield
    great video, really liked the time it took IE extra help lumping equipment.

  • @bradsmith9293
    @bradsmith9293 2 роки тому

    I respect the integrity to which you do your wk. Your customers receive the best return for their $ spent. The BIG PICTURE battle cry has helped me in my own job to keep me striving to move further in diagnosis. We all need the reminder when things get summer crazy out here. God bless you and family, I appreciate all you have done and are doing!

  • @DavidKing-vb9ux
    @DavidKing-vb9ux 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m not sure on Carrier but yes it should have a knock out panel from the factory for electric heat package! My guess installer knocked out! You should cut a patch panel and cover that!

  • @dillonallen9626
    @dillonallen9626 2 роки тому +4

    It possible the the reason why the electricians want to shut power down the the mail breaker panel / building is due to , pulling a home run they will be working dangerously close to a live bus bars.

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 2 роки тому +1

      Weird. They do sell very highly insulated rubber gloves for such occasions. (And face masks for arcing.)

  • @eno_de
    @eno_de Рік тому

    Nice video, very informative and interesting. Especially for me as a german to see all the differences between the us and europe.

  • @AIM54A
    @AIM54A 2 роки тому +35

    Solid State contractors where made for this situation. No moving parts, totally sealed. Sand will never effect them.

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому +11

      I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 7/25/22 @ 5:PM (pacific) on UA-cam come over and check it out… or not ua-cam.com/video/5HS0Ag5fTes/v-deo.html

    • @pashok28
      @pashok28 Рік тому +6

      You can't help those Americans and their regulations. It boggles mind how they live in cardboard houses with wire nuts ancient wiring.

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou 2 роки тому +1

    Seems like condensers should have a self cleaning option for environments like this. Just a water supply and a nozzle that sprays the coils down every week or so would be helpful. It doesn't replace normal manual cleaning but would help in between. Does that kind of thing exist? I'm also curious if solid state semiconductor based switches can replace contactors in sandy environments like this. Sand just kills moving mechanical components in no time.

  • @semifavorableuncircle6952
    @semifavorableuncircle6952 2 роки тому +3

    Why dont they have overload relays on the compressor contactors? Would help in case of phase loss too...

    • @caerusdharken57
      @caerusdharken57 2 роки тому +3

      There is nice combination monitor relays, Phase rotation, Phase loss, over and undervoltage, all in one Unit. In Europe they are pretty common.

  • @ejonesss
    @ejonesss Рік тому

    if you are ok with running the compressor and cycling the overload protector on and off you can use the overloaded state to warm up the compressor so the gas will boil out of the oil and recover easier.
    metal flakes in the oil means you are well on the way to destroying the compressor and blocking up the txv/cap line and even radiator coils if they are like car radiators with small channels.

  • @Tactical-Black
    @Tactical-Black 2 роки тому +1

    Really thinking about getting into air-conditioning now, i use to work in the feild only on the electrical and controls side

  • @shadowbanned69
    @shadowbanned69 2 роки тому +1

    This is why I put phase monitors on all my equipment...needed or not. Condom principle...better to have and not need than need and not have...one day it will safe thousands if not more...

  • @c117ls7
    @c117ls7 2 роки тому

    Always make it to the end! I've said forever that I'd love to be able to put a motor starter/contactor cabinet down in the building. It would take a ton of wiring from each unit but if you could put all the VFDs and contactors inside the building, it would certainly prevent a lot of failures.

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 2 роки тому +2

      They sell sealed contactors that have enough of a cover to keep sand out. And the unit could be designed to keep it's own control electronics cool even if it's mounted outside - it's a f'ing box that literally makes COLD AIR. My first thought is "mount the control and VFD in the conditioned air space", but then "what if the VFD blows up? All that crap gets sucked inside - that's bad" - ok fine. Idea #2, mount the control and VFD on a heatsink that sits on the cold air side of the unit, but the parts themselves are still on the outside side. These things are just designed to be cheap, and fail. They could also include current monitoring on every compressor and fan motor in this thing, and detect failures long before they actually happen, and for not very much BOM cost, but they don't do that either.

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 роки тому

      I will discuss this on my livestream this evening 7/25/22 @ 5:PM (pacific) on UA-cam come over and check it out… or not ua-cam.com/video/5HS0Ag5fTes/v-deo.html

  • @rc1581
    @rc1581 2 роки тому

    Great detail video! I’m an HVACR Technician Las Vegas.

  • @bigdaddy4975
    @bigdaddy4975 2 роки тому

    I always put into the vapor side and flip the tank upside down and it goes very good everytime

  • @cesarhernandez3275
    @cesarhernandez3275 2 місяці тому +1

    Love the 80s theme music in the back ground 😆 😎

  • @larryboy4905
    @larryboy4905 2 роки тому +1

    I like to do an acid test on the oil and add an HH filter drier and acid scavenger if it is positive.

  • @antoniolaracuente437
    @antoniolaracuente437 2 роки тому

    Hey buddy I like your style you always look out for the next guy coming up I've been watching your videos for a couple years now and I watched them all to the end you make it sound exciting you have to love what you're doing I tell the young kids today you have to love what you're doing I can tell you love your job I'm the same way keep up the good work Buddy