I have a lot of customers that either are first or second generation Americans from Poland and or that area. They are some of the most industrious people I know. Hard workers and tough. They put a lot of other Americans to shame.
Thanks for doing this install. its awesome. is that primary secondary piping kit from the inlet and outlet of the combi to the T with the black insulation flexible? have a great day.
@pipedoctor - I am in process of converting from oil to propane and have received a handful of estimates from various contractors and cant find much info as it relates to reviews. I live in CT and have a 2300 sq ft home. Most have quoted me combi boilers (Ideal Exalt, Viessmann B1ke120, Lochnivar Noble) & then Energy Kinetics non combi. Any insight on what you think is best? Much appreciated.
Look out for those toes. Those sections are heavy. Gas boilers are not as messy than oil fired with all the soot. Is Daniel shooting blanks ? At the end you showed the exhaust and intake pipes ? Do you have to label those pipes ? In Mass we have to label the pipes intake and exhaust. Someone here in Mass must have hooked a a 3" drain to one of the pipes.
Great observation! Safety is definitely a priority when handling those heavy sections. And yes, gas boilers have their advantages over oil-fired ones for sure!
Nice install. Looks like you left the expansion tank valve is closed still. Maybe it got opened but right at the sign out of video it was still closed in service position.
@@PipeDoctor is that a golden Easter egg with a black pipe doctor hat? That gas valve is very scary if the pilot light were to blow out. Hope they had explosive gas detectors in that room.
@PipeDoctor so yes, the difference or percentage of the output number compares to the input would be the efficiency of the boiler. 192 output ÷ 240 input gives you 0.8 which is 80% efficiency, 20% up the flue. Cool. Always wondered that. Thanks mikey
Mike I just started watching you guys i'm a local person myself I live in Garden City Park I will most likely give you a call next time I need some service I do have one question on this particular video the pipes for the exhaust and the fresh air intake over the window is there a problem if they open the window will there be any situation with the exhaust coming into the home and who is responsible for closing up the chimney so you don't have any animals going into the chimney as well
22:21 let’s put in the most efficient USA made boiler out there, then Mikey pipes leaves the old chimney open. That’s a bit of a fail there…. 2nd fail is no outdoor reset. You just made that boiler far less efficient than what the homeowner expected. Assuming it’s baseboard set a curve from 125F-180F with outdoor temp 45f-0f and it would run perfectly comfortable. Far more efficient to about 20F outdoor temp compared to leaving it at 180F all the time. Running at 180F all the time also shortens the lifespan of the unit significantly.
And you are the perfect example of the armchair technician who loves to comment on what they don’t see. No, the outdoor reset was not installed. Yes the boiler space eating setpoint temperature is 155°. Yes, the chimney was spray foam sealed
Some of these people commenting would probably call the cops on you if they had footage of you going over the speed limit. 😂 They hate watch your vids. Successful people congratulate other successful people. Good work on the installation. They can outdoor reset Ds Nutz. 😂
Of course there’s jealousy stupid amounts of it out there. New York State Department of environmental conservation came to my office yesterday complaining that someone ratted us out for melting scrap.
Did you put a dirt mag inline there , I hope so because I have installed at least 500 of their units and they started off wanting a wye strainer inline until a lot of leaking watertube heat exchangers started happening and that five year warranty they offered for the heat exchanger went right out the window . Next they wanted a air /dirt separator and that lasted a few years until they came out with the fire tube design that was supposed to solve all of our problems but when they started leaking they now want a dirt mag piped in but even that didn’t stop the leaks so now we have to pump some inhibitor into the system and allow it to circulate thru out the system with the hope of any debris that would of ended up causing a leak in the heat exchanger will now be stuck on the dirt mag. They still are great units and I would recommend them to all of my customers. Please use a bar to walk those old sections off of the bottom push nipple.
Oh, here’s another rocket scientist sitting in their parents basement. If you paid attention, you would’ve seen that the space heating setpoint is 155°.
@@Steve-bm2zm I can tell you from my experience of installing hundreds of these , mostly on the side since I only do commercial plumbing and heating . If it’s piped in right with the primary secondary loops, the pumps are sized properly for the job because some guys will just go with what they had in there before and that could of been sized wrongly years ago ,and you adjust all of the setting that the boiler offers especially the outdoor shutdown setting which in that area should be somewhere between 58 and 65 degrees you will save 40% on your gas bills and that’s a conservative estimate. Like I said it depends how you set it up . I know guys who put them in and leave the factory defaults, bleed out the air and the customer saves very little money , most of those type of plumbers won’t pipe in the primary secondary loops so you end up loosing your efficiency right there. But number one is to set it up properly according to what type of heat convection you have in your house , do you have copper fin baseboard, cast iron radiators, or radiant heat in your floors.That type of information matters when you are setting the controls up after the install. I would always set up the dhw priority so if a heat and a hot water demand came in at the same time the boiler will take care of the hot water demand than the heating demand .
Did you put inhibitor in the boiler? I’ve added it to mine in 2019 during commissioning and have had no leaks around the brass nuts going into the heat exchanger. I see it on a lot of those boilers but I guess I’ve had luck or did something right 🤷♂️ lemme know all of your thoughts and comments please?
My problem is home owners spend so much money maintaining high efficiency boilers. A god help them if it breaks. Unlike forced air I don’t recommend them.
@@PipeDoctor hold up I’m no keyboard plumber I wrote you a legitimate comment with valid information that could help you with a warranty issue that you will inevitably run into in the future when u have to deal with a leaking heat exchanger.I never said a word about the insulation or why he did things the way he thought was necessary. As far my sisters panties are concerned, how did you know that ? You two don’t know each other right ? Come on she told me if I get caught again that she would tell everyone about the panties but I swear I haven’t gone near her panties. Don’t believe her or the numerous security videos she has of someone who looks similar to me stealing her brand new pink panties , oh the video was in black and white . That’s a fair question than how do I know they were pink ?
@@PipeDoctor the insulation strips on the sheet metal shields from above burners front/rear. when cutting the rods to separate sections, both were hit, then laying on floor being trampled on. also likely in sectional gasketing in the top flue passageway joints as well as the collector box gasket and maybe water passage gasketing. maybe in the shell insulation that "looked" like fiberglass. 🤔 they still put it in everything back then, especially boilers and anywhere that had flame, flue gasses, steam(shut off valve stem packing!) running a grinder or saw blade into sure isn't a great plan. I still have brand new asbestos valve stem packing here, as well as a large blanket(in plastic packaging new). probably more new unused and surely in multiple of the old building materials left here(9x9 floor tiles, etc.)
Do you really need a mixing valve on the D.H.W supply on a tankless? I am pretty sure in Canada it's required if you have an indirect storage tank or a regular gas/electric storage tank but on tankless it's optional. (Again, I am not 100% sure if needed on a tankless).
I have a lot of customers that either are first or second generation Americans from Poland and or that area. They are some of the most industrious people I know. Hard workers and tough. They put a lot of other Americans to shame.
:)
Thx for working on a lochinvar again
Thanks for doing this install. its awesome. is that primary secondary piping kit from the inlet and outlet of the combi to the T with the black insulation flexible? have a great day.
Appreciate the feedback
@@PipeDoctori was thinking if using that primary secondary kit in a retrofit so i was wondering if the pipe was flexible please?
This Homeowner got their Money’s Worth out of their Old Equipment. WOWsers! 🤔👍
yes they did
Nice to see all the good stuff that comes with heating season!
Absolutely! Heating season brings so much comfort and coziness-perfect for snuggling up with a good book or movie!
were the two vent holes for the chimney left unsealed???
Gorgeous work by the entire team! 🏆🏆🏆
Thank you 🙌
No capping off the chimney holes?
I don’t show everything on UA-cam
@pipedoctor - I am in process of converting from oil to propane and have received a handful of estimates from various contractors and cant find much info as it relates to reviews. I live in CT and have a 2300 sq ft home. Most have quoted me combi boilers (Ideal Exalt, Viessmann B1ke120, Lochnivar Noble) & then Energy Kinetics non combi. Any insight on what you think is best? Much appreciated.
Looks great as usual Mikey
Thanks 👍
That install is crazy wow nice job
Thank you very much
Great video you are the best
Far from the best. But thank you
You are the best
Looks good, only thig I'd be worry about is the exhaust blowing on the brick and then freez/thaw on the brick morter over time break them down.
Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful !
Thank you!
Should have capped the chimney, and the exhaust should terminate at least 3.‘ from any opening to the dwelling. What are you doing?
We got another armchair, keyboard warrior.
Looks like a Polish Picnic!
Lotta huffing going on there Mikey!!!
I forgot to take my medication last night
nice install great layout
Thanks!
You’re allowed to use regular pvc for venting?
Read the manual brother
That's a piece of artwork.
Indeed! It’s like the canvas and I had a deep conversation, and this was the result!
Haven’t seen a AB gas valve in years
And today you did
Now that's a boiler full cast iron
absolutely
Mike why did you go with Lochinvar and not the Weil McClain or Alta?
Because I wanted to give the homeowner the miniature laser cut bicycle
Look out for those toes. Those sections are heavy. Gas boilers are not as messy than oil fired with all the soot. Is Daniel shooting blanks ? At the end you showed the exhaust and intake pipes ? Do you have to label those pipes ? In Mass we have to label the pipes intake and exhaust. Someone here in Mass must have hooked a a 3" drain to one of the pipes.
Great observation! Safety is definitely a priority when handling those heavy sections. And yes, gas boilers have their advantages over oil-fired ones for sure!
10 out of 10 install
thank you
Nice install. Looks like you left the expansion tank valve is closed still. Maybe it got opened but right at the sign out of video it was still closed in service position.
you found the easter egg
@@PipeDoctor is that a golden Easter egg with a black pipe doctor hat? That gas valve is very scary if the pilot light were to blow out. Hope they had explosive gas detectors in that room.
@@01HokiefanThey counted on the chimney draft to expel the natural gas in case of pilot failure.
Is the difference between the input and output btus the efficiency of the boiler?
INPUT is the amount of gas, or fuell it takes in - the NET or OUTPUT is the amount it actually gives. The loss is the waste, usually up the CHIMNEY
@PipeDoctor so yes, the difference or percentage of the output number compares to the input would be the efficiency of the boiler. 192 output ÷ 240 input gives you 0.8 which is 80% efficiency, 20% up the flue. Cool. Always wondered that. Thanks mikey
I'm half polish and love polski jokes.😂 how did the polock break his leg raking leaves? He fell out the tree.😮😆
Mike I just started watching you guys i'm a local person myself I live in Garden City Park I will most likely give you a call next time I need some service I do have one question on this particular video the pipes for the exhaust and the fresh air intake over the window is there a problem if they open the window will there be any situation with the exhaust coming into the home and who is responsible for closing up the chimney so you don't have any animals going into the chimney as well
Window is a fixed window. Not operable
Stach back daniel miss that morning snach aroma in the am.😊
So good
Great work Mike! What is the size of the Lochinvar?
199
looks amazing. i think the valve to the expansion tank is closed
Congratulations you found the Easter egg in today’s video
Love those 40 gallon exp tanks NOT! Have fun draining without a bleeder.
yup
No outdoor sensor? How do you expect it to modulate based on the weather? Nice work though! I love mine so much savings in gas
Nope, no outdoor reset. We have a heating setpoint of 150°.
22:21 let’s put in the most efficient USA made boiler out there, then Mikey pipes leaves the old chimney open. That’s a bit of a fail there…. 2nd fail is no outdoor reset. You just made that boiler far less efficient than what the homeowner expected. Assuming it’s baseboard set a curve from 125F-180F with outdoor temp 45f-0f and it would run perfectly comfortable. Far more efficient to about 20F outdoor temp compared to leaving it at 180F all the time. Running at 180F all the time also shortens the lifespan of the unit significantly.
And you are the perfect example of the armchair technician who loves to comment on what they don’t see.
No, the outdoor reset was not installed. Yes the boiler space eating setpoint temperature is 155°.
Yes, the chimney was spray foam sealed
Micky is kind of a hack. Brings me stacks all the time
Some of these people commenting would probably call the cops on you if they had footage of you going over the speed limit. 😂
They hate watch your vids.
Successful people congratulate other successful people.
Good work on the installation.
They can outdoor reset Ds Nutz. 😂
Of course there’s jealousy stupid amounts of it out there. New York State Department of environmental conservation came to my office yesterday complaining that someone ratted us out for melting scrap.
@@PipeDoctor people can’t mind their own business anymore. It’s a shame.
Did you put a dirt mag inline there , I hope so because I have installed at least 500 of their units and they started off wanting a wye strainer inline until a lot of leaking watertube heat exchangers started happening and that five year warranty they offered for the heat exchanger went right out the window . Next they wanted a air /dirt separator and that lasted a few years until they came out with the fire tube design that was supposed to solve all of our problems but when they started leaking they now want a dirt mag piped in but even that didn’t stop the leaks so now we have to pump some inhibitor into the system and allow it to circulate thru out the system with the hope of any debris that would of ended up causing a leak in the heat exchanger will now be stuck on the dirt mag. They still are great units and I would recommend them to all of my customers. Please use a bar to walk those old sections off of the bottom push nipple.
Thanks for sharing your feedback
At the end you left the valve closed to the expansion tank. Hope someone took care of that before you guys left or that's a call back!
Oh, you found the Easter egg
Heat Exchanging Device needs to go to an HVAC Museum. Unbelievable Look. 👍
We agree!
What’s this cost
If you need to ask, you can’t afford it
To hazard a guess probably ~20K +/-5K, materials are like $8K, 4K for the boiler, 4K for fittings, pipe and other components.
Bet they will save a lot of money on the gas bill now
Not really, outdoor reset wasn’t installed. Running at 180F with a return temp of 160F that thing is likely only 88% efficient.
Oh, here’s another rocket scientist sitting in their parents basement. If you paid attention, you would’ve seen that the space heating setpoint is 155°.
Because 88% efficiency isn’t better than 72%?😂
@@Steve-bm2zm I can tell you from my experience of installing hundreds of these , mostly on the side since I only do commercial plumbing and heating . If it’s piped in right with the primary secondary loops, the pumps are sized properly for the job because some guys will just go with what they had in there before and that could of been sized wrongly years ago ,and you adjust all of the setting that the boiler offers especially the outdoor shutdown setting which in that area should be somewhere between 58 and 65 degrees you will save 40% on your gas bills and that’s a conservative estimate. Like I said it depends how you set it up . I know guys who put them in and leave the factory defaults, bleed out the air and the customer saves very little money , most of those type of plumbers won’t pipe in the primary secondary loops so you end up loosing your efficiency right there. But number one is to set it up properly according to what type of heat convection you have in your house , do you have copper fin baseboard, cast iron radiators, or radiant heat in your floors.That type of information matters when you are setting the controls up after the install. I would always set up the dhw priority so if a heat and a hot water demand came in at the same time the boiler will take care of the hot water demand than the heating demand .
Keep on Making the Trades Great Again Mikey Pipes. #LoveBosch Smash that Like and Subscribe folks. SMASH IT!!!
Continued support to the channels. I really appreciate it.
Did you put inhibitor in the boiler? I’ve added it to mine in 2019 during commissioning and have had no leaks around the brass nuts going into the heat exchanger. I see it on a lot of those boilers but I guess I’ve had luck or did something right 🤷♂️ lemme know all of your thoughts and comments please?
Nope, we don't use.
No, we did not
Mr tphvac are you saying that u see leaks on the nuts on the inlet and outlets at the bottom of the heat exchanger because of inhibitor? Please help.
It would be cheaper to use PEX Mikey pipes
My problem is home owners spend so much money maintaining high efficiency boilers. A god help them if it breaks. Unlike forced air I don’t recommend them.
Week old as the crust in your underwear jokes. 😂
i have those too for you
Did not cap old flu opening
do i need to show everything???????????????????????????????????????????
Did they know all they needed was a new gas water heater?
WHAT DO YOU THINK
A lot of keyboard plumbers on the comments😅
Absolutely! While they’re wearing their sisters panties in their parents basement in front of their keyboard watching Mikey pipes
@@PipeDoctor hold up I’m no keyboard plumber I wrote you a legitimate comment with valid information that could help you with a warranty issue that you will inevitably run into in the future when u have to deal with a leaking heat exchanger.I never said a word about the insulation or why he did things the way he thought was necessary. As far my sisters panties are concerned, how did you know that ? You two don’t know each other right ? Come on she told me if I get caught again that she would tell everyone about the panties but I swear I haven’t gone near her panties. Don’t believe her or the numerous security videos she has of someone who looks similar to me stealing her brand new pink panties , oh the video was in black and white . That’s a fair question than how do I know they were pink ?
First
WINNER
Congratulations
umm, cutting and stirring up the asbestos mama! at 13:03 probably more of it all over that boilah...
What asbestos?
@@PipeDoctor the insulation strips on the sheet metal shields from above burners front/rear.
when cutting the rods to separate sections, both were hit, then laying on floor being trampled on. also likely in sectional gasketing in the top flue passageway joints as well as the collector box gasket and maybe water passage gasketing. maybe in the shell insulation that "looked" like fiberglass. 🤔
they still put it in everything back then, especially boilers and anywhere that had flame, flue gasses, steam(shut off valve stem packing!)
running a grinder or saw blade into sure isn't a great plan.
I still have brand new asbestos valve stem packing here, as well as a large blanket(in plastic packaging new). probably more new unused and surely in multiple of the old building materials left here(9x9 floor tiles, etc.)
Bird doging 😂
Oh, the BIRD
We used to call the forman, I beam. He was always hiding behind an i beam bird doggin. 😂
💪🏻🍻
Hi Rambo, thanks for the continued support
How many jews does it take to change a light bulb? 3 1 guy to grab the bulb 2 to turn the 1guy holding bulb
thats the polish joke buddy
omg !!.. better yet 1 jew & a couple kids ..so he can blowviate on camera..
Man o man …. They’re gonna be disappointed
Why? Made in the USA 🇺🇸
INTERGAS
Ok
bad move black fittings on fill valve...
Nothing wrong with it
Steve Lav would of had that done in 1/2 the time by himself
he is a scumbag loser. no wonder he has ZERO family or friends
You mean would have (would've)??? No.
@@PipeDoctorthats not very nice. Be nice please.
too long
Thanks for sharing
Do you really need a mixing valve on the D.H.W supply on a tankless?
I am pretty sure in Canada it's required if you have an indirect storage tank or a regular gas/electric storage tank but on tankless it's optional. (Again, I am not 100% sure if needed on a tankless).
It requires one in the manual