Famous molecules in perfumery - Coumarin

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:30 - History of coumarin
    01:30 - Coumarin in Fougères
    02:35 - Usage in perfumery
    04:05 - Safety & how to find the IFRA limit
    07:16 - Bicyclononalactone / Octahydrocoumarin alternative
    08:33 - Evaluations
    12:09 - Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 61

  • @dwsel
    @dwsel 2 роки тому +12

    I love the in depth way you explain things. Huge perfumery career ahead of you.

  • @cryptidsNstuff
    @cryptidsNstuff 7 місяців тому +2

    Sam, you are my fav youtuber.

  • @andyrnb4923
    @andyrnb4923 2 роки тому +4

    Great video Sam. You made me reexamine bicyclononalactone as I thought I hated it. To me it was like C18 without the coconut - the waxy dry part. I've just compared the two and I think you are right about it being between coumarin and C18. I now see the dry herbaceous woody aspect. I think originally I was unhappy with it as I had been aiming for coconut.
    Look forward to seeing your coumarin formulas. I recently used it to produce a powdery woody male talc-like accord with ethyl vanillin, sandalore, timbersilk, lyral and ethylene brassylate.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Glad that this prompted you to revisit it! Nothing better than finding a new aspect to a raw material you previously decided you didn't like.

  • @joshadams1551
    @joshadams1551 2 роки тому +1

    Great video man, love the history!

  • @bergsveinnolafsson8101
    @bergsveinnolafsson8101 2 роки тому

    Greetings Sam, I absolutely love your videos and your passion to share your knowledge. You make the world a better place! Watching the video I got inspired to investigate the chemical compound of different citruses by first downloading chemical analysis of different citrus EO's and then buying those AC's available. Start blending, building, and by that learning more about citrusses. Taking into account that the ratio of AC in EO's vary from different region in addition from year to year I think this might be an interesting project to pursue.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Thank you! That sounds like a nice project. You should check out my video on making a bergamot accord if you didn't already as I looked at that to some degree. Let me know how it goes!

  • @Inisiarev
    @Inisiarev Рік тому +1

    The scent of coumarin is awesome. I love it and with labdanum they are my favourite notes. The IFRA is a bummer. The sweetness nowadays is done by exchanging coumarin with ethyl maltol in a lot of cases. Sweet as well, however not even close. Ps. the proposed bicyclononalactone + benzaldehyde smells great too.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      I’ll have to try that combo, thanks! I can see it working

  • @Sergiotejido
    @Sergiotejido 6 місяців тому

    Am learning a lot from your videos. thanks for this information.

  • @SchoolofScent
    @SchoolofScent Рік тому

    Comprehensive video, loved the structure and topics covered, thanks for sharing! Coumarin usually comes in powder form, do you know why this is and how long can it be 'kept' once diluted with perfumers alcohol?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Thank you! Yes, just some raw materials are naturally solids; think of it more as there is no reason they must be a liquid. There’s no way to know how long something will keep in alcohol without testing it but many things will keep for well over a year.

  • @superaak
    @superaak 2 роки тому +2

    Good information. Thank you.

  • @trebila64
    @trebila64 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Sam, thank you for all your videos always touch on interesting and useful topics.
    most formulas have many components and it is not possible to have them all at hand, I wonder if you will have some list of substitutes because I have not been able to get information about it.
    thank you in advance for your help.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Thanks Javier. Unfortunately I don't have such a list. I don't think there's ever an ideal substitute but sometimes there can be fairly good ones. I don't use formulas I find online myself very often at all and this is one of the reasons. The only advice I can give is to focus on your own creations with what you have instead of making formulas you find.

    • @trebila64
      @trebila64 2 роки тому

      @@sammacer thanks 👍

  • @meghayadav9774
    @meghayadav9774 2 роки тому

    I am big fan of perfume and big fan of you 😊💫

  • @texasfan8892
    @texasfan8892 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for pointing out which of the IFRA categories to go by. I like to use coumarin in my blends but I never understood which of the IFRA categories to go by so I would always go with the most stringent just to be safe. It seems that I could've used a lot more.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      Yep - it says deep in the guide somewhere 😅

  • @mybad4101
    @mybad4101 2 роки тому

    I'm a Coumarin junkie! I love Alexandria II, which is full of it. Bycyclo is not my cup of tea, still looking for a good way to use it.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Yeah I knows what you mean - it is pretty different, probably the closest we have though unfortunately

  • @tessselllate
    @tessselllate 5 місяців тому

    Funnily enough the specific fern you showed actually does have a scent! It's a hay fern and smells kind of like hay if you crush it up in your hand.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  5 місяців тому

      Oh cool - obviously I just got an image from the internet. When I smell crushed ferns I find them to be very green.

  • @thiagoribeiropereira3229
    @thiagoribeiropereira3229 2 роки тому +2

    To avoid problems and work more easily I always use coumarin diluted to 1%.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah me too, I completely agree

  • @nams37
    @nams37 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @estudiopaoloremedy
    @estudiopaoloremedy 2 роки тому

    Gracias !

  • @mastermaly1
    @mastermaly1 Рік тому

    Dzięki:)

  • @Audreylalaland
    @Audreylalaland Рік тому

    I think I’m in love . Do you sell courses ?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Not at the moment - but maybe in the future!

  • @generic_cat
    @generic_cat 2 роки тому

    Hello I was wondering if you know of any website that has perfumery ingredients and can tell you all known binary relationships between other ingredients (if it goes well with them or not) Something like a network of ingredients, maybe there could be voting on the relationships from other users. That would be really cool.
    Just imagine you could put the ingredients you have into the website, and it would tell you which things go well with each other. Thanks for letting me know if there's something like this available publicly.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      I don't know of anything like this that exists already. It's a great idea though. I think something like this would be cool to add in a website version of Formulair in the future if the current app gains enough traction

  • @5wm562
    @5wm562 Рік тому

    Not sure how the IFRA site is supposed to work but on my mobile it doesn't seem to. If you do get any hits on a search term the site will say so but doesn't display them. What am I doing wrong?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Strange, have you tried the desktop version?

    • @5wm562
      @5wm562 Рік тому

      @@sammacer Yep. ya did. Missed that one! :P

  • @kejawadavid9325
    @kejawadavid9325 2 роки тому

    Hi Sam? Could you give me formula for reed diffuser?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      I've never made one but you should be able to find something on google

  • @anand469
    @anand469 2 роки тому

    Hello sir
    I am a Ganpat University student. I study Msc organic chemistry.chemically made coumarin may or may not be used in cosmetic products.

  • @MusicKnowte
    @MusicKnowte Рік тому

    Should I worry about toxicity at all while using coumarin??

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Yes, check the IFRA guidelines for it

  • @iam_ismell
    @iam_ismell 2 роки тому

    🔥🔥

  • @oenkayee5039
    @oenkayee5039 Рік тому

    Hey may i know is that tonka bean makes allergic to several people?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому +1

      Yes, it contains coumarin, a potential allergen

    • @oenkayee5039
      @oenkayee5039 Рік тому

      @@sammacer thank youu

  • @dyloak6450
    @dyloak6450 2 роки тому

    Where should I buy Coumarin from?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Mine if from Pell Wall but lots of suppliers sell it

  • @Badarkhalil999
    @Badarkhalil999 2 роки тому

    good man make good video 👌

  • @homocapensis7854
    @homocapensis7854 Рік тому

    Sam ,deberías subtitular español para América Latina .

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      I tried in the past but it is just too time consuming

    • @homocapensis7854
      @homocapensis7854 Рік тому

      @@sammacer si es un trabajo que lleva tiempo , creo que tú labor es genial es un curso de perfumería espectacular de lo mejor que he visto .

  • @siegmac3267
    @siegmac3267 Рік тому

    Have you tried 6-methylcoumarin?

  • @bshannon67
    @bshannon67 17 днів тому

    You don't have any obligation to follow IFRAs ridiculous limits. I refuse to let IFRA destroy classical perfumery and I'd have hoped you did too.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  16 днів тому

      You’re right that there’s no legal obligation, however I prefer to stick to them and recommend them out of care for my viewers safety